Oh Joe Say It Ain’t So

Just a few news clips to illustrate a thing:

Biden on Ukraine:


WASHINGTON, March 17 (Reuters) – U.S. President Joe Biden said on Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin has clearly committed war crimes and the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) decision to issue an arrest warrant for him was justified.

The ICC earlier on Friday called for Putin’s arrest on suspicion of unlawful deportation of children and unlawful transfer of people from Ukraine to Russia since Moscow’s invasion began of its neighbor last year.


President Biden has quietly ordered the U.S. government to begin sharing evidence of Russian war crimes in Ukraine with the International Criminal Court in The Hague, according to officials familiar with the matter, signaling a major shift in American policy.

The decision, made by Mr. Biden in recent days, overrides months of resistance by the Pentagon, which had argued that it could pave the way for the court to prosecute American troops, according to the officials.


After an unprecedented visit to Ukraine, President Joe Biden told a Warsaw crowd that “brutality will never grind down the will of a free Ukraine. Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia. Never.”


Biden on Gaza:

The White House decorated in Israeli colors,. Oct 9 2023


WASHINGTON — The US has already begun delivering critically needed munitions and military equipment to Israel, the White House said Monday, as the Pentagon reviews its inventories to see what else can be sent quickly to boost its ally in the three-day-old war with Hamas.

John Kirby, a spokesman for the National Security Council, confirmed Monday evening that the first batch of military aid in the wake of the massacre of hundreds of Israelis by Hamas terrorists is “making its way” to Israel.

[new york times]

Biden Warns Israel Not to Occupy Gaza

While the president has stood strongly behind Israel since Hamas attacked, he said on “60 Minutes” that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”


Biden appears to have the same kind of disconnected time disorder as Trump: Israel has been occupying Gaza for decades. It has been “a big mistake” for decades, too.

Why, no, I can’t understand how a whole generation that grew up during the Vietnam and Iraq wars could be under the impression that the US government are cynical political nihilists who’ll say or do anything for momentary advantage. Can you?

I started to do a version where I flipped all the Russia/Ukraine references with Israel/Palestine references but I concluded that’d be cheesy and obvious, right?


  1. wereatheist says

    Israel has been occupying Gaza for decades

    Wrong tense. Israel occupied Gaza. Until 2005.
    Now it’s some sort of ‘siege’.
    Internally, Gazans govern themselves. And they are happy with Hamas rule, or else.

  2. wereatheist says

    Gaza was occupied by Egypt, 1948 – 1967.
    For some reason, no palestinian state was founded there, and then. Why?

  3. says

    Meanwhile, 500+ dead in hospital bombing on Gaza strip.

    Over at Dkos, there are people seriously suggesting it might have been a Hamas rocket misfire, or there might have been terrorists hiding in the basement, or even that it might have been a false flag operation.

    Between February 24 and March 21, 2022, sixty-four medical facilities and their personnel were targeted by Russian forces in Ukraine, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported.[9] The facilities were being hit at rate of two to three a day, inflicting 15 deaths and 37 injuries.By April 8, 2022, WHO had confirmed 91 attacks

    OK, so Israel has dropped (according to their military) 5,000 bombs and artillery rounds on Gaza. It’s painful to watch supposed progressives bend over backwards to come up with theories how none of those might have hit a hospital.

    I guess the good news, if there is any, is that the Jordanians cancelled their meeting with ammo-supplier-in-chief Joe Biden. Meanwhile on youtube, some of the vloggers I follow have comments on their postings to the effect of how brave Biden is, flying into the area, where there is a carrier task force group parked just offshore, ready to vaporize any threat to the wizened, disassociated, piece of uselessness we call “Mr President.”

  4. says

    For some reason, no palestinian state was founded there, and then. Why?

    Israel declared itself in 1948. (late 1947 really) – there was probably no Palestinian state willing to stand up and face a military catastrophe. I don’t think that Egypt considered Gaza part of its territory to dispose of – perhaps they respected the Palestinians’ autonomy enough to let them decide whether to hang themselves or not. Israel would have gone batshit.

  5. wereatheist says

    Israel declared itself in 1948. (late 1947 really)

    It was May 14, 1948. I am not surprised that you don’t know this (TBH I looked it up).

    there was probably no Palestinian state willing to stand up

    Of course there was no P-state. And of course you wanted to write ‘Arab’ in place of the P-word :P

    Egypt … respected the Palestinians’ autonomy

    BWahahaahhaahahhaahhaahahaaahha (you are not dumb enough to believe that shit).

  6. says

    Gaza was occupied by Egypt, 1948 – 1967.
    For some reason, no palestinian state was founded there, and then. Why?

    Not an expert on the matter, but I have to wonder if it would even be feasible for Gaza to be a state on its own. Gaza is about 140 square miles. It makes Luxembourg look huge.
    Certainly, they’d never be able to maintain a military strong enough to provide a credible deterrence for Israel. So, as Marcus pointed out, it would be like asking for a beat-down.

    Why do you think?

  7. wereatheist says

    There are way smaller states than Islamofascist Hamastan, in Europe.
    Most are relics of feudalism, e.g Monaco, or Andorra. But there is also the Republic of San Marino.

  8. says

    Damn the the League of Nations really screwed up.
    Mandate for Palestine

    They did, but then the whole idea was barely supported by the powers that needed to put muscle behind it to make it stick. The UN has similar problems: it was constructed not as an actual enforcement power, but rather as an indirect club that the superpowers could use on non-superpowers for their bullying.

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