The other night I was doing some google-whacking, looking for coverage regarding which of Trump’s advisors may have played an active role in talking him into the very bad idea that he could extend his time in office illegally.
No doubt, a great deal of it is Trump’s own childish mulishness, but I have never thought Trump was a great student of history. Maybe he’s learning from Erdogan? Hitler? Putin? By the way, history is full of lots of leaders who overstayed their welcome in power, overtly or otherwise. The oldest form of overstaying one’s welcome is called “monarchy.”
Here’s another one: [nyt, Sept 2001]
Giuliani May Try to Keep Job After Term Ends in December
Uh, what?
Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, reconsidering his position that the mayoral election should go on without him, believes that New Yorkers should be able to decide who leads the city out of these troubled times, even if it includes an extension of his term, people close to the mayor said last night.
While Mr. Giuliani is barred from serving another consecutive term under the city’s term limits law, he has rebuffed questions about his view of the matter in recent days. He is expected to address the issue directly as early as today, less than 24 hours before voters are to go to the polls in the rescheduled mayoral primary.
“People close to the mayor” is journalist code for “his official leaks” or flunkeys. You know, like when Donald Trump pretended to be “John Barron” and called Forbes to lie about his wealth and strong-arm them into listing him on the “400 Wealthiest” list. If you read between the lines with extreme cynicism, it sounds like Giuliani floated the idea past someone at the NYT to get their reaction. Or, someone else who had heard the idea floated it past someone at the NYT so that they would publicize it and shoot it down.
Since the Sept. 11 attack, many New Yorkers have called for extending the mayor’s term for at least six months, if not four more full years, in spite of the law. Such an extension could require the approval of the State Legislature and the City Council, and neither group has been amenable to the idea in the past week.
“Many” unnamed New Yorkers. Yeah. I believe that.
In recent days, petitions have made their way around the city calling for extending the mayor’s term — not that of the council members and other public servants barred from serving under the law — and at least one large corporation has taken out newspaper advertisements urging the Council and the Legislature to get on board. Letters to the editor pages of all the city’s major newspapers are full of calls for the mayor to remain in office for four more years.
Furthermore, officials in the mayor’s office, including Deputy Mayor Joseph J. Lhota, have made a round of calls to city and state legislators seeing if they would support some extraordinary move to adjust the law.
“Officials in the mayor’s office” … you mean officials in Mayor Giuliani’s office? Spontaneously started making a round of calls to city and state legislators trying to get them to ignore the law?
The whole point of term limit legislation is that The People can run out the clock on a shithead like Giuliani.
Gov. George E. Pataki made his own calls, to the candidates for mayor and to Sheldon Silver, the speaker of the Assembly, seeing how they would feel about postponing the primary. All of them strongly urged the governor not to do so.
But that did not stop the governor from fanning the flames: on Friday, during an announcement to the news media that the primary would indeed go on, Mr. Pataki said of Mr. Giuliani: ”If I lived in New York City, I’d write him in.” He did not elaborate.
“Hey, lets do crimes.” Pataki, of course, is a Republican. Which means he’s all about democracy. That’s why he allowed the whole thing to remain mostly secret. Giuliani had ambitions, but unfortunately there was no Brutus around.
Business Insider [bi] also covers this story.
billseymour says
Yeah, me too. Like Hawley’s claim that may people believe that the election was stolen. (Uh, Josh, there are also many people who believe that the Democrats are having Satanic pedophile parties in the basement of a pizza shop that doesn’t have a basement. That many people believe it doesn’t make it true.)
Owlmirror says
So, Hizzoner the former mayor of New York encouraged his buddy to cross the Rudicon?
Alla ya jacktoff est!
Ichthyic says
no. In fact, Trump IS a good student of history, and he has mentioned several times over the last 20 years that he favours the leadership and writing/speech style of Mussolini.
Hence why I have called him Cheeto Mussolini since long before he ran for office.
Owlmirror says
Ill Douche, hey!
sonofrojblake says
“Many people believe” is a phrase I only ever seem to see before statements that prove that those people are, at best, uninformed. That’s my politically correct way of expressing it.
“Many people believe” the earth is flat and /or 6000 years old.
lorn says
IMHO a whole lot of what has happened was determined by two simple asserted stories:
1) Trump is chosen by God.
2) The Democratic leadership and liberals in general are lead and controlled by cannibalistic pedophiles.
Think about where the conversation goes from there. What are the chances of compromise if you really believe one or both of those of those points.
This is very much like the main problem I see with this, and religion: The human mind simply can’t deal with anything approaching infinity. Near infinite time, resources, good/evil, near-infinite anything, throws a wrench in the ability of the human mind to deal coherently with reality. The scale gets too large or too small and the conclusions become nonsensical, or entirely meaningless. The human brain simply can’t handle it. The same way you can’t divide by zero in math.