Oh, There’s An Idea. A Really Bad One.


Audience Member: I had a question about, there’s been a lot of violence in the black community – I want to know, what would you do to help stop that violence, you know, black-on-black crime…

Trump: Right, well, one of the things I’d do, Ricardo, is I would do stop-and-frisk. I think you have to. We did it in New York, it worked incredibly well and you have to be proactive and, you know, you really help people sort of change their mind automatically, you understand, you have to have, in my opinion, I see what’s going on in Chicago, I think stop-and-frisk. In New York city it was so incredible, the way it worked. Now, we had a very good mayor, but New York City was incredible, the way it worked, so I think that could be one step you could do.

Alexandra Jaffe: Trump will propose nationwide stop-and-frisk to address violence in black community 2nite on Hannity.

Trump will be yakking on tonight about instituting Stop ‘n’ Frisks, citing the disastrous, unconstitutional mess that took place in New York. He seems to think that’s just an incredibly brilliant idea, and that’s going to “cure” all that black violence, and of course, it will make black people vote for him. Yep.

Via Twitter and Raw Story.


  1. Brother Ogvorbis, Fully Defenestrated Emperor of Steam, Fire and Absurdity says

    Well, I suppose that would be better than the current national policy of “stop and shoot.”

  2. cubist says

    Is Trump ignorant of the fact that stop-and-frisk can be, and all-too-often is, applied to people who are guilty of nothing more than Existing While Black? Or does he know and simply not give a damn? Either way, Trump continues to confirm my mental model of his behavior: Namely, he’s an amoral sociopath who’s good at manipulating people by ‘reading’ them & telling them what he thinks they want to hear.

  3. says


    Well, I suppose that would be better than the current national policy of “stop and shoot.”


    I was reading today that a Massachusetts court ruled that it was perfectly reasonable for people of colour to run from the police to avoid racial profiling.

    That doesn’t work too well with that whole “racially profile all those brown people!”

  4. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Trump is all for “stop and frisk” as long as certain criteria are met. *holds up brown paper bag*.

    In my opinion, only those who are on the light side of the “brown paper bag” should be “stopped and frisked”, especially if they are wearing a business suit.

  5. says

    Someone on the twitter stream said all white people should be subjected to stop and frisk for one week, just to get an idea of what every day is like for all the brown people. I’d be good with that, but for longer than a week, given how bone-headed white Americans tend to be.

  6. A. Noyd says

    Well, stop and frisk does “work” if you know what the actual problem it’s supposed to solve is. Which is white anxiety over black people possibly achieving social parity. There’s nothing like a heap of authoritarian backlash to help soothe fears that anti-racist protestors might disrupt the racist status quo.

  7. rq says

    I’d be good with that, but for longer than a week,

    I’d go with ‘an indeterminate amount of time’, that way there’s a whole lot of uncertainty about how long it’s going to continue, or if there’s a break in stopping-and-frisking white people -- is it temporary? You never know! If you give it a week, or a month, or a year, everyone knows it will end at some point. But if they don’t know, or if that period gets arbitrarily extended, then you have that uncertainty factor, too.

  8. mostlymarvelous says

    I’d do it like fire/ bomb threat drills in large buildings.

    Some large, scheduled events for training purposes. Occasional unscheduled (from the point of view of most building occupants) events to test your building evacuation times, accuracy of rollcalls and response times of emergency services. When and how you publicise the results of those test events and how that affects future training depends on the organisation.

    Which makes me wonder. Do US police forces do random breath testing? It’s quite routine for Australian drivers to find themselves directed off to a queue of vehicles, 10 or more at a time, for all drivers to submit a breath test. It’s quite expected -- there’s always a flurry of these “reminders” in the lead up to Xmas, Easter and other significant sport-celebration-holiday-travel times. Always backed up by tv and radio safety advertisements, of course. Nobody worries about it much -- except for the damn fools who already have drink driving convictions and who keep right on drink driving.

  9. EnlightenmentLiberal says

    Do US police forces do random breath testing?


    It should be flagrantly unconstitutional, but SCOTUS decided otherwise with some minor and irrelevant caveats. /sigh

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