One of the other side benefits of being in the Air Force is getting to fly around on the military airlift planes. I’ve got to admit, it seems romantic – flying in the big boxcars, like Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid, sitting in a jumpseat with exposed metal, and none of that annoying “please put your tray-table in the upright and locked position” nanny state nonsense, just tough heavy metal sky-choo-choo stuff.
I’m disappointed to learn that that’s also just (mostly) marketing. It sounds like military travel’s unglamourousness is not so glamourous after all. [taskandpurpose]
The Air Force’s KC-46 refueling tanker aircraft has been through a lot of sh*t the past few years, and now literal droppings are the latest of the beleaguered aircraft’s troubles. The aircraft features a lavatory/galley combination unit that can’t fit inside the KC-46 the way it does aboard other aircraft, which means that the toilet spills poo everywhere if the plane is in a steep dive or climb.
I suppose that any aircraft toilet is going to have some angle at which everything goes everywhere. Suddenly I now understand the spring-loaded steel baffle in the loo on commercial aircraft (It’s also to prevent passengers from looking down the hole and seeing/smelling the stuff sloshing back and forth). I’m guessing there have been plenty of commercial aircraft that have had shitty landings, too. It’s just that the military’s porta-potty is probably a) heinously expensive and b) sucks anyway.
The Air-Transportable Galley-Lavatory, as the palletized bathroom/galley unit is called, has been in service since the early 1980s and is loaded and flown aboard a range of Air Force transport and tanker aircraft, said Capt. Christopher Herbert, spokesperson for Air Mobility Command. According to one informational video, the ATGL looks a lot like the little kitchen you see in the back of any commercial passenger jet, with two bathroom stalls on the other side.
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Lastly, the KC-46 has a unique floor loading system which means the commode has to be turned at an unusual angle to fit securely inside the aircraft. The new configuration “could potentially result in spillage issues during steep ascents and descents,” Herbert explained.
I don’t imagine the toilet arrangements on an F-35 are anywhere near as nice. That, as they say, Depends(tm)
Patrick Slattery says
One of the little things they make in Vermont for the F35
https://www.omni-defense.com/
Marcus Ranum says
“Tactical dehydration” oh my.
ahcuah says
BTW, here’s a new story on the F-35 and the congressional F-35 “Joint Strike Fighter Causus”.
https://prospect.org/power/lockheed-backed-reps-lobby-against-f-35-spending-cuts/
sonofrojblake says
What’s wrong with one of these?
https://xcmag.com/shop/product/xcpee-base-kit/?v=79cba1185463
Patrick Slattery says
> What’s wrong with one of these?
Not enough lobbyists/congresscritters getting a cut?
jrkrideau says
Catheter? Patrick Slattery @ 5 seems to be recommend one. Seems practical to me but then I accidentally once found myself at a catheter sales presentation. The accompanying light dinner was great.
Patrick Slattery says
A Catheter?
Sure! My BIL would get a cut for his invention: https://classmedical.ie
;-)
Dunc says
Toilet and galley are two functions which should not generally be combined into a single unit.
johnson catman says
Dunc @8: Most definitely, especially if the poop spills when the plane tilts too much!
lochaber says
I’m not sure if I’m more horrified at the concept of a combined lavatory/galley, or that it took 8 comments before someone else mentioned it…
Unless possibly the air force uses the word “galley” for something other than what the navy does?
ahcuah says
Dunc said: “Toilet and galley are two functions which should not generally be combined into a single unit.”
While that’s true, as the old joke goes, don’t forget that the human body combines toilet and sexual pleasure functions that way.
Reginald Selkirk says
I discussed my ideas for F-35 “biological counter-measures” in a previous thread, so I won’t repeat them here.
cvoinescu says
Advanced Mission Extender Device, AMXDmax, is a battery-powered nappy. (The current solution is called a piddle pack. It’s a zip bag to pee in. It requires the pilot to unbuckle and fly one-handed while using it. Good stuff.) “Mission Extender” suggests there have been instances of jets turning around because the pilot really needed to go. Or that pilot bladder capacity is an important limiting factor in mission planning. Is it?
Reginald Selkirk says
I have heard that NFL linemen will pee their pants rather than take a potty break. Why not fighter pilots?