I’m referring, of course, to the US president.
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that if the United States goes to war with Iran, the conflict “would not last very long” and would not involve ground troops.
“I’m not talking boots on the ground,” Trump added. “I’m not talking, we’re going to send a million soldiers. I’m just saying if something would happen, it wouldn’t last very long.”
[hc] He has mostly lost his capacity to shock, now I listen to what he’s parroting so I can try to figure out who the parrot-master is. In this case, it sounds like every National Security Advisor, ever. “Tell them ‘no boots on the ground.'” Because the suckers keep falling for that. They’ve been falling for it since at least the time of the Vietnam War, specifically Sept 1950, when president Truman established the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) (later MACV) – that was the covert force including green berets, who began to teach the locals how to torture prisoners and organized targeted assassinations of village leaders. The American people, naturally, didn’t give a shit – but that’s because it was played to keep people from giving a shit. Implying that there’s no active military role being performed doesn’t sound like “we just entered a war” does it? We’re just helping these other guys – you know, “teaching them” how to win insurgencies, the way the US does.
Did I say “win insurgencies”? That’s a mistake. We actually lose insurgencies. Want to know why?
- They are hard
- They require massive amounts of “boots on the ground”
- They require near-genocidal levels of violence (see #2)
Those levels of violence are hard to deliver without things getting up close and personal, or using weapons of mass destruction. The US probably does not possess enough munitions or aircraft to deliver them, to win an insurgency from the air. Remember Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Trump’s advisors are probably pointing to Libya as a ‘success’ for all that it’s one of the causes of the European migrant crisis that triggered Brexit – that festival of strategic brilliance still required tons of covert “boots on the ground” and a power-vaccum that filled itself with a not-very-pleasant cast of characters that I predict we’ll be desiring “regime change” from, in less than a decade. Ultimately it was “boots on the ground” that killed Hussein, and Khaddafi, in spite of bletcherous war pig Hillary Clinton’s “we came, we saw, he died.” Who’s “We” white man?” as the joke goes. Clinton, at least, showed more physical bravery than Trump ever has, when she went and dodged sniper fire in Kosovo. Oh, wait, no, that was a lie too.
“I’ve been very nice to them,” he said. “They shot down our drone. I decided not to kill a lot of Iranians. I know a lot of Iranians. I like Iranians so much, and that plays into your decision, too. They’re human beings. They’re people. I didn’t want to kill 150 people.”
“Some of my best friends are Iranians!” No, wait, he would have said “Some of Rudy Giuliani’s best friends are Iranians.” I get confused, sometimes, by which asshole is lying about what.
But look at the premise of what Trump is saying: he is claiming that the US would bomb Iran so hard and fast that they’ll just flip over and wave their bellies in the air. No civilian population in history has ever done that. But my guess is that’s the bullshit Pompeo and Bolton are feeding him. What a fine troika of war chickenpigs they are! One is ignorant, one is vicious, and the other is a coward. No, they all are all three. And add to the list the supine U.S. media, which reports their words without breaking into belly laughs. Everyone ought to have been screaming, “you have got to be fucking kidding me!?” at the top of their lungs.
Obama told the American people “no boots on the ground” and covertly invaded Syria at the same time. Shortly afterward, Syria looked like hell.
What Trump is saying is that the Iranians had better be really careful the next time the US Navy blunders about unable to read a map, or else we’ll commit some really yuge crimes against humanity. And some of his best friends are Yuranian, but he won’t let them use his bathroom. Careful, those “bone spurs” are going to flare up again.
“I don’t think they have smart leadership at all,” he said. “Iran’s going down the tubes.”
You have got to be fucking kidding me!
Marcus Ranum says
I probably should have mentioned that the “clear and hold” and “hearts and minds” counterinsurgency paradigms are both heavy on “boots on the ground” which is why they failed in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and everywhere.
ridana says
Nukes. He’s talking about nuking them. “Why do we have them if we’re never going to use them?”
I think he’s more afraid of Putin than Bolton, so he’s probably just blustering, but with his short attention span I still worry he’ll forget that Papa Putin told him “No! Bad dog!” and do it anyway.
Andreas Avester says
It’s incredible how such a short quote can have so much entitlement oozing out of it. First you fly your stupid drone over another country, next you expect them to passively submit to you invading their airspace, then you get angry about the fact that they dared to blow up your drone, then you dare to claim that Iranians are the ones who did a wrong thing, and ultimately you pat yourself on the back for being “very nice to them,” because you “decided not to kill a lot of Iranians.”
This is why so many non-Americans hate Trump and the USA.
Marcus Ranum says
Andreas Avester@#3:
It’s incredible how such a short quote can have so much entitlement oozing out of it.
Especially when it’s coming from a craven golf-playing windbag who can’t even walk a golf course because of his “bone spurs” – he’s the quintessential chicken-hawk and ignorant on top of it.
Marcus Ranum says
ridana@#2:
Nukes. He’s talking about nuking them.
Seriously.
If he orders the use of nukes I hope one of the armed Secret Service detail puts a gun to Trump’s head and blows his brains out.
johnson catman says
Marcus @5: What fucking brains?! The vacuum might just suck everyone in the room into the void.
Marcus Ranum says
johnson catman@#6:
“Collateral damage.”
kestrel says
Chickenhawk. You got that right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsktNLgpCs8