Let’s take a look at Mr. No Unattractive Fatties:
We should all know that looks aren’t all that, and most people aren’t obscenely rich and have the option to completely remold their faces and figures, and to attempt to offput aging through various methods, some very questionable, like that of vampire wannabe Thiel. Apparently, President Pinchpork seems to think he’s devastatingly attractive as he is. Whether or not a person is intellectually engaging, has a sense a humour, is kind, and so on, those things matter. Looks? Not so much. Not that eye candy isn’t nice, what’s not to enjoy? There are plenty of people who make a living being eye candy, for everyone’s enjoyment. If that’s not your job though, then looks should not have jack shit to do with anything, while your actual abilities to do your job competently, that should matter.
RANCHO PALOS VERDES (CBSLA.com) — Trump’s exclusive Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles perched in picturesque Rancho Palos Verdes is now at the center of bias accusations. In legal documents first published by the LA Times, former staffers here unleashed a slew of ugly allegations against Trump in a lawsuit that has since been settled.
Among the accusations: Trump fat shamed employees at the golf club’s restaurant and demanded they be given the boot because of their weight.
A former catering director said this about the billionaire real estate mogul:
“I had witnessed Donald Trump tell managers many times while he was visiting the club that restaurant hostesses were not ‘pretty enough’ and that they should be fired and be replaced with more attractive women.’
Another staffer also said she was told to fire someone because they were too heavy:
“Mr. Stellio told me that I should do this because Mr. Trump doesn’t like fat people and that he would not like seeing (her) when he was on the premises.”
Staffers also reported fearing Trump’s wrath, so they replaced middle-aged hostesses at the restaurant with younger, more attractive women when Trump was visiting.
I wonder, given President Pinchpork’s hatred of fat, what the hell he sees when he looks in the mirror.
Trump’s organization called the claims totally bogus in the following statement:
“The allegations in the lawsuit were meritless. We do not engage in discrimination of any kind. The statements made by a group of former disgruntled employees are far from an accurate portrayal of what it is like to work at Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles.”
Let’s go back to the recent past for a moment:
This is the woman Trump called “Miss Piggy” “Miss Housekeeping” and “Miss Eating Machine”. Wanting women to be walking skeletons is in no way reasonable, especially when those making such demands tend to be more than a bit well padded. It’s not as though President Pinchpork is demanding all the men who work for him be model level attractive and to be of sufficient thinness. So as far as the statement goes, I’ll issue an unequivocal bullshit. Pinchpork is a walking, talking horror show when it comes to womens’ bodies and clothing choices, and it’s not as though girls don’t have enough shit hurled at them from day one on that level. Men don’t need this sort of crap either, nor do they need anyone encouraging them to be judgmental assholes of shallowness. All my hopes to those suing.
johnson catman says
Of course, 45 never settles lawsuits brought against him.
Marcus Ranum says
Apparently, President Pinchpork seems to think he’s devastatingly attractive as he is.
Thank you for clarifying what was bothering me about this: Trump clearly thinks there’s something wrong with his appearance in his own terms because he does that thing to his hair, eats lots of diet pills, and prefers pictures of himself that are, shall we say, “idealized representations.” In other words, he knows he’s not up to his own standards.
Yet he wants to criticize others for not living up to his own standards. This, to me, is the problem with appearance in general: we only have minimal control over it, and age is going to eventually make us all look the same anyway.
We’re all on this spectrum between not very alive and very dead, with a hump in the middle where we’re sort of close to being in a pretty good state; “attractiveness” and thinness and having all one’s hair are proxies for signalling where we are on that arc. Trump’s on the decline -- physically and mentally -- so it’s especially nasty for him to be complaining about people who are as far over the hump as he is, yet.
I’m choosing my words carefully, because I don’t personally ascribe a value to age (other than wishing I could be 25 again) -- I think we need to accept our age(s) because they’re going to be forced on us, anyway, and all we do to kick and struggle against that arc just shows we don’t understand the situation or our fate.
And, as someone who’s done plenty of glamour photography, let me say that Ms Machado is infinitely more photogenic than Mr Trump ever was in his wildest dreams. Since part of her profession involved being attractive, I think it’s semi-reasonable to comment on that. In Trump’s case, since his looks are irrelevant to pretty much anything he does, he’d have probably done well not to call so much attention to them. But, strategic blunders coming from Trump shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Age doesn’t mean anything to me, I take people as they come. That said, yeah, I wish I could stay 27 for a couple of decades at least, but you can’t have everything. (27 has long been my perfect age). It all slides by, devastatingly fast. I remember way back when, me and Rick figuring out how old we’d be in the *year 2000*, ’cause you know that was an eternity away. I’d be 44. I just shook my head, none of it was real to me. For a while, it seems you have all the time in the world, then *bam* time is all “gotcha!”
I enjoy all kinds of people when I encounter them, I don’t give a shit about age. One time, having to do my mandated federal piss test, a very young woman commented on my hair, saying “that’s what I want” and I laughed, and said “with all this gray in it?” And she replied yes, that’s what I want to do, just grow it and not care what people think. We had a nice chat.
I’ll be 60 in November. These days, I’m no longer ‘fashionably thin’, I’ve graduated to ‘bony’, because age. You have to take it all with a laugh and lots of salt, and try, really hard, to not be a judgmental ass who is so shallow they think looks and body shape are everything.
Marcus Ranum says
You have to take it all with a laugh and lots of salt, and try, really hard, to not be a judgmental ass who is so shallow they think looks and body shape are everything.
Exactly. I occasionally sigh wistfully for being 27 again, but that’s because the cartilage in my elbows wouldn’t have minded swinging a forging-hammer, and I had all the time in the world and the energy to go with it. Appearance? Shit, I’d just be happy to have all my joints work well, again.
We’ll all have plenty of time (I hope) to experience getting older. Including Trump. In Trump’s case, I hope it means he’ll have lots of time to contemplate what being a failure feels like. Because the great leveller doesn’t really give a shit about any of what you were, ultimately we only matter to ourselves and those around us. Trump’s chosen a path that is making a lot of people despise him; it’s the definition of not growing old gracefully.
Tabby Lavalamp says
SNL answered this for us!
Heh. I think Marcus nailed that one, he doesn’t like what he sees, but he doesn’t have a way to cope with it, or come to terms. Losing the orange would really help. Orange isn’t a good colour for people, no one should look like a carrot going bad.
I just can’t be arsed to care all that much about appearance, in particular when it comes to a relationship. For me, a non-negotiable element of attractiveness is whether or not someone reads. That would rule Pinchpork out.
chigau (違う) says
So Trump actually played that ball rather than tossing it out by hand?
johnson catman says
re Caine @3:
I remember when I was around nine years old sitting with the neighborhood kids and talking about how old we would be in 2000. I was born in 1959, and I would be 41 that year. It did seem so impossibly far away at the time. My sister never made it, and I don’t know where any of those other kids are today. Life is so fickle, so it needs to be enjoyed while we can.
No, he had one of his lackeys simply claim it’s in some other spot. He then fired the lackey because the lackey-claimed spot wasn’t the hole, and then called reports of the incidentAnd then went on an angry twit barrage, which includes threats to nuke Scotland, and cancel trade deals with the maker of the golf balls.
Word. Never know how long you got.
chigau (違う) says
That makes perfect Trumpsense.
If anyone’s wondering about Pinchpork, go visit Marcus.
Its not a matter of looks, its just that Trump is afraid that overweight people may eat so much junk food that there won’t be enough left for him.