1. quotetheunquote says

    Thank you for that video; there are tears streaming down my cheeks, and my Significant Other (currently down in the basement, loading the washer) must think I have completely lost my mind!



  2. ridana says

    I’m confused -- what video? Who’s Golden? All I see is the comments, but what you’re commenting on is a mystery. I found TNET 30, and there was a video and a blog entry (not sure what TNET is), but here it’s just comments. There’s not even a TNET 31 title.

  3. voyager says

    TNET is the never ending thread. Its always linked in the left sidebar just underneath the colourful head under submissions. It’s an always open space for any of us to talk about things. When one thread gets too full of comments it’s closed and a new one opened. TNET 31 is the latest. I posted it yesterday and it’s a funny video about dog training. It all seems to work well here. I wonder if the video won’t play in your area. I’ll do some investigating. Thanks for letting us know.

  4. ridana says

    I see. I got here via the link in Recent Posts in the sidebar, but clicking on the TNET link brings me here as well.
    Usually if a video won’t play, I just see a big white space, or a black rectangle, depending on the issue. This is the first time I’ve ever seen just Comments with no headers or anything. If I hadn’t linked to TNET 31, I would have no way to even tell what posting y’all were commenting on. :)

  5. Ice Swimmer says

    Koiramestari means dog champion or champion dog. Kennelliittto is the Finnish Kennel Club (a member organization of FCI and so, quite a serious organization).

    The golden retriever really knows what’s important. The last thing they were eating was lenkkimakkara (lenkki = loop, makkara = sausage), which is a very popular type of (cheap) sausage here, that is stereotypically loved by Finnish men (and dogs).

  6. ridana says

    I’ll leave this here so I won’t derail any other threads, but I’m having the exact same issue with the Spring Cleaning thread -- no post, just comments. Basically, for me the last normal looking post from voyager was Apr 10 Jack’s Walk. Did you tweak a parameter during the Spring Clean?

  7. says

    @ridana, could you please post what OS and what internet viewer are you using when accesing the site? I have tried to look into it, but to me is shows properly on both PC with Windows 7 and a smartphone with Android. Both of those posts that give you trouble have the same settings as any other post on affinity, there are no special tweaks that I could find.

  8. ridana says

    I solved the problem, but not why it only occurs on those two posts (TNET31 and Spring Cleaning). I still had AdBlock active since the ads were often offensive and they slowed down my computer, but it has never affected the pages like this before (and I can see the latest Book Design post normally, even with it on). For whatever reason AdBlock was seeing the entirety of those two posts as ads.

    When I couldn’t see just a video, I’ve tried turning it off, but that’s never fixed the issue, so it took awhile for me to think of trying that. But since I don’t need it anymore here, I’ll just keep it off. Thanks for looking into it!

  9. voyager says

    Thanks, Ice Swimmer,
    I wondered what language they were speaking.
    I agree that the golden retriever has his priorities in order. Lenkimakkara would probably make Jack break training, too.

  10. says

    I seriously want to cry. I have been teetering on the edge of high temperature for last few days -- exactly on the edge, 37°C.
    Today at noon I took the last antibiotic.
    Now I feel like shit again and I have 37,4°C. I suspect some much deeper problem than simple tonsilitis or sinus infection is at play here.
    I cannot work outside. I have maybe two weeks to put myself together, then my bonsai trees begin to die.

  11. voyager says

    Oh Charly,
    I’m so sorry to hear that. I wonder how long it will take to see a specialist? Not long I hope.
    I know nothing about bonsai except that it’s a delicate art. Is there someone you trust who can help?

  12. Jazzlet says

    Oh Charly I am so sorry, there must be something more going on, I hope your doctor can get to the real cause or refer you to an infectious disease specialist quickly.

  13. rq says

    For what it’s worth, I’m still not well, too -- a constant 37 degrees (with brief spikes to 37,5), which ordinarily I wouldn’t consider too much of an issue except I feel like crap all the time and it won’t go away. Still have a funny cough, too.
    I took antibiotics and the sinus infection went away, but the cough hasn’t changed much, so I sympathize with you completely: I’m sick and tired of feeling sick and tired all the time.

  14. Nightjar says

    Charly and rq, so sorry to hear you still aren’t feeling well :(
    Damn those bugs, I hope you can get rid of them really soon.

  15. lumipuna says

    With Finnish parliament election result now nearly complete, the prime minister position is tied (with mere 20 % of seats) between Social Democrats and the Finns Party (anti-immigration cranks). Turnout was 72 %, the highest since 1991.

    I should go to sleep, but no.

  16. lumipuna says

    Finnish national broadcaster’s news site has a live update series for the election coverage -- mixed with some updates from women’s ice hockey championship. The final game is apparently now played between USA and Finland.

    (In these circumstances, the only thing more important than women’s hockey, and possibly the election, would be men’s hockey.)

  17. voyager says

    It’s the same in Canada. In 1972 when the Russians were playing the Canadians we watched the game in school. No lessons that day!

    What will this election mean in Finland? Will the Finns party have any real power?

  18. lumipuna says

    And USA wins women’s ice hockey championship in a tight game.

    Now, the parliament is a complicated game I hardly understand any better than ice hockey. There’s no “winner takes all” situation especially now, since the winner isn’t very popular (Social Democrats just won by one seat, with three other parties close behind).

    In any case, forming the new cabinet will be difficult, just like it was recently in Sweden, and for similar reasons. Most parties will feel more or less obligated to not cooperate with the anti-immigration cranks, though that may be unavoidable.

  19. chigau (違う) says

    hugs for all (esp. Charly)
    but, about that very sweet doggie in the video uptop
    do you all really want that one going for help when you’ve fallen down the well?

  20. rq says

    So long as no one’s left plates full of snacks along the way and the doggie knows all available snacks are at home, maybe…?

  21. says

    Sorry for having mostly disappeared for the last days, but with work and the cold and everything I just didn’t manage to turn on the computer.

    We got the new car on Friday (shiny!). On Saturday morning Mr took it to go to the bank, shopping and the gas station. He called me from the bank that he couldn’t get it started…
    He had to call the car dealer. Well, they did tell us to push the shift pedal or it won’t start…

  22. rq says

    Hope at least the cold has gone and left you in peace. ;) Congrats on the new wheels, it’ll take some adjusting.

  23. Jazzlet says

    Giliell and Charly I hope you are both feeling better today.

    Sniggering a bit at Mr G. Mr J once got himself into a right tizz when he couldn’t get his first SLR camera, that we had mail ordered, to work, and it was going to be such a pain to send it back, and would they deal with us fairly and … I quietly read the instructions, then leaned over and turned it on.

    We had a mostly good holiday last week, only mostly because Jake behaved appallingly one day. He really is hard work sometimes and sadly this was one of those times. The other bitter sweet thing was seeing our best friend from university who has MS, lovely to see him, awful to see how much he’s declined since we last saw him, it’s a nasty nasty disease.

  24. says

    Hi hi, sorry I haven’t talked much but things have been frantic. Anyone want a cup of tea? I hope all of you who have been sick are feeling better.

    So, my Aged Mum’s house has been sold, to the person we were hoping could buy it -- the son and family of mum’s nice neighbor. They want to fix the house up (mostly the kitchen and bathroom) but keep the quirky architecture.

    I have to share this: Elder Daughter is working with a group of starling researchers. She’s designing video games for starlings. Sorry, I just love saying “video games for starlings”. It’s actually an intelligence test of pattern matching; strings of starling sounds are played and the birds are rewarded for tapping keys to repeat the sounds in the right order. I think I’ve got that right.

  25. rq says

    I got my bloodwork back.
    I have pertussis.
    You know how I got it?
    From some fucking unvaccinated kid, who passed it on to my vaccinated kids at school or kindergarten, who acted as carriers and gave it to me (because they don’t do pertussis boosters because it’s supposed to be so rare among adults due to childhood vaccinations it’s considered practically a dead disease for adults and yeah).
    I’m not just a little bit angry right now.

  26. voyager says

    OMG. I haven’t heard about whooping cough in years. At least now you can properly treat it and start to get well. Please take it easy and try to drink a bit more. Some yogurt might be a good idea, too, because the antibiotics can be hard on your system. Down the road, when you’re feeling up to it, I’d like to see you write a piece about ‘herd immunity’ and anti-vaxxers. There’s nothing like a first hand account.

  27. voyager says

    Normal is good. Mostly.

    Glad to hear about your mum’s house. It must be nice to have it settled in a good way.
    Your daughter’s work sounds fascinating. I’d like to know more about the intelligence of birds. I think their little dinosaur brains are smarter than we give them credit for.

    MS has a difficult progression. I’m sorry that your friend isn’t doing well.
    I’m also sorry that Jake mucked up one of your holiday days. Naughty boy.

    Everything around here is muddy and I wish I could share our weather with you. Draught, especially early in the season is difficult to overcome. Hopefully you’ll get rain soon.

  28. Jazzlet says

    I’m fucking furious for you, anti-vaxers are out and out killers, I’m not sure hate is good for us, but I hate them, I really do. I hope now that it’s been identified treatment will be quick and effective.

    Good news about the house. Fascinating news about the starling research. Seeing murmurations of starlings on my way home from classes or from my tower block bedroom window when I lived on campus are among my most vivid memories of university.

    My friend starting off relapsing and remitting, now he’s just progressive. He has a specially adapted car with all hand controls so they do get out, but he can’t walk long enough to do a supermarket shop, he has to go round in a wheel chair. On the other had he’s building another computer (he built our first and second computers, along with his own), but this time not using parallel processing chips but building his own from scratch (I may have that wrong, I know he could buy chips to do ‘it’, but is instead building them), and the greatest difficulty talking with him is his stammer, but he’s had that from way before I met him.

    I tried to do some watering, but Mr J has not put any markers in and it’s not obvious where anything is planted. There’s no point in watering the whole bed, it’ll just help lots of weeds to germinate, so I’ll have to get him to put markers in if he really wants me to help.

  29. says

    Thank y’allI’m mostly back to normal again, and the holidays have started, so there’s that. Aaaaaand, remember that certificate I told you about? I finally got it with “exceeds expectations”. Given that about exactly one year ago I was about to fail my exams and was as miserable as I could possibly be, this is such a change.

    Oh those fuckers. Hope you get better soon.
    I had whooping cough as a kid*. I hopefully still have some immunity because the combined polio/diphteria/tetanus/pertusis shot only was introduced a year after I had my last booster and there’s no single vaccine.
    *For some reason back then in Western Germany you only got polio/diphteria/tetanus and the girls got rubella at 10. You were supposed to suffer through the rest. the East was much more sensible in that respect, having mandatory vaccinations for all that shit.

    Good news on the house and I really like the idea of starling computer games.

  30. voyager says

    I’m glad you’ve got a holiday break to help you get your strength back. What is this school break for? Our kids get this Friday and next Monday off for Easter, but only the 2 days.

  31. Ice Swimmer says

    I think that there is a country (probably many countries) that should improve the prevalence of vaccinations. Also, fuck the anti-vaxxers.

    I hope that you’ll get antibiotics that will work with on the pertussis and not on your gut flora.

    Congratulations, Giliell!

    Good to hear some better news. I’m glad you got the house thing in order.

  32. voyager says

    Gosh, I almost forgot to say congratulations! I’m not surprised that you have ‘exceeded expectations.’ You’ve worked very hard for this and it must be nice to have that recognized.
    Special needs teaching must be just about as difficult as teaching gets. I’m very proud of you, my friend.

  33. Nightjar says

    Pertussis?? Oh, fuck those anti-vaxxers. As if dealing with diseases we can’t prevent wasn’t bad enough. I hope you get better soon, rq.


    *sigh* So, the truck drivers that transport dangerous goods are on strike since Monday and as of today all filling stations in the city have run out of fuel. Public transportation is also being affected so if I take the bus to work tomorrow I really can’t be sure there will be one to take me back home. So I’m taking the car and hoping the strike will be over before I run out of fuel. I’m eyeing the bike, but 10 km with a hill in the middle is way too much for me. Fuck this fuel dependency, we aren’t even close to being able to even dream of a carbon-neutral future and it’s going to kill us all.

  34. says

    @rq pertussis? That I did not expect. Fuck antivaxers. But also fuck politicians who think that because illnes X has become rare in a region/country/state Y, it is OK to stop vaccinating in Y to save money. As proven time and time again, in today’s interconnected world there is no such thing as being safe from an illness unless it has been completely eradicated worldwide.

    @Giliell, congratulations! That must feel real good after the grief you got with your basic training.

    Yes, the vaccinations were compulsory and extensive in eastern bloc, the only option to refuse or delay them was for objective medical reasons. I got into an argument with a few of my friends lately about this. They are not anti-vaxers, but they did say some incredibly stupid things about why those vaccines have to be given to such tiny babies and not wspread them over a few months. I told them that my mother would probably slap them for saying stupid shit like that. She is from the generation that still remembers those tiny babies dying at an alarming rate before the vaccines existed. And when the vaccines were introduced, there were no antivaxers, because everyone still knew first hand how awful were things before.

    On the other hand, Big Pharma here in CZ gave fodder to antivaxers recently. They lobbied for a simplified pertussis vaccine, and got it through the approvals despite warnings from scientific community that this simplified (acelular) vaccine does not in fact work, or at the very least not as well as the last one (I got this information first hand from one of the scientists involved). The result is an outbreak of pertussis among vaccinated children and anti-vaxers are seizing this opportunity to clam that vaccines are evil. Some things just should not be owned by and/or be decided about by bean counters.

    Funny thing about that conversation was that a friend of whome I did not expect it got my back and helped to argue the point that it is still better and safer to vaccinate the kids, even if there is a lot of immoral lobbying involved.


    I felt well enough to drive, so I requested a recommendation from my GP and I visited ORL yesterday. I had my sinuses x-rayed and I spare you the details of the rest. My sinuses are clean, I have no inflammation in there or in the ears apart from allergy, which for me is normal at any time of the year. I have only slight inflammation in the throat, but that gets better every day. This was actually third recurrence of this effing illness -- on sunday I was feeling well, on monday I suddenly could not eat properly for the pain in the throat (but no high temp this time, strangely). So I am on third course ofn antibiotics now, and I have been finaly tree-days in a row without temp above 37°C and this morning the sore throat is OK too. So hopefully next week I am finally really cured. I will not get out of bed for prolonged time just yet.

    But so far this illness was like a boomerang -- anytime I felt better for a day or two, it got real bad all of a sudden again. I am not getting my hopes up for what it actually is that was trying to kill me. Probably a mix of virusses and bacteria -- my blood tests were inconclusive either way, some markers were for bacterial infection, some were against it and for a long time I had no other symptoms than headache and temperature.

  35. says

    I hope that this time the antibiotics kick ass. I had a similar “cold” this winter, though not as bad as yours. Just at that level where I could still go to work (whom am I kidding, I go to work unless I literally can’t get out of bed…). It always got better and then worse and every time I thought I’d made it it came back with a vengeance.

    They are not anti-vaxers, but they did say some incredibly stupid things about why those vaccines have to be given to such tiny babies and not wspread them over a few months. I told them that my mother would probably slap them for saying stupid shit like that. She is from the generation that still remembers those tiny babies dying at an alarming rate before the vaccines existed.

    For one thing this, for the other: injections hurt. And tiny babies don’t understand the why and that it won’t last, they just feel pain. Even if for no other reason, why would I subject my baby to 20+ injections instead of three?
    Also, i had the freedom to get all those nice childhood diseases.
    Whooping cough? I think there are still parts of my lungs on the pavement somewhere…
    Measles? My mum recently found a picture of me curled up in the cupboard because I was so light sensitive that even the darkened room hurt…
    Chicken pox? On my 21st birthday. I locked myself in the bathroom and swore I’d never leave…
    I just hope that if the time comes, my children who were spared all this won’t make the mistake many people seem to make nowadays and think that shit was harmless.

  36. Jazzlet says

    Have I talked about why I am pro-vaccine on here? I can’t remember, if I have do skip this comment.

    One of the things many people do not realise is that it wasn’t only children who caught polio, when my mother was in her thirties with three small boys she was unlucky enough to catch it during one of the early 50s epidemics. For her that meant going to hospital for months, her children couldn’t visit, the nearest they got to her during that time was to wave at a window they were told she was behind (and I’m not going to get into the damage I think that did to the three of them). During that time she also had a miscarriage, which she attributed to the polio and which she never forgot. Once the infection was cleared came the hard work, the poliio had destroyed the myelin of the nerves to her balance muscles so she had to learn to walk without using them and that was hard, really hard but she did it, not needing crutches round the house, but needing one or two if going into the garden or beyond. She couldn’t squat down any more or run after or pick up those young boys. She had intestinal problems for the rest of her life, which was very common in people who had survived poli, and finally she couldn’t cry without great physical pain. She went on to have three more of us, but allof us were vaccinated for anything there was a vaccine for, and she made clear how very important vaccinations are, that they not only save lives, but that they stop people being permanently damaged. Even before that happened to her she was keen to have any vaccinations going, Big Bro got pertussis as a baby and the only help our GP could offer was that she try and cut the phlegm with whiskey, which horrified my Methodist mother who certainly didn’t drink spirits.

    I did get quite a lot of the childhood diseases because there were no vaccinations for them when I was little and I wouldn’t inflict them on any child, though I admit to wishing the anti-vaxxers could have the kind of terrifying fever hallucinations I had inflicted on them every day until they saw sense.

  37. rq says

    I just hope that if the time comes, my children who were spared all this won’t make the mistake many people seem to make nowadays and think that shit was harmless.

    On the plus side, whooping cough has provided me with the wonderful opportunity to talk to my kids about the importance of vaccines, for regular accidental infections like me, and also for immuno-compromised people (like the pregnant person and person with organ transplant and person with leukemia we were supposed to visit this weekend…).
    Every time I have a full-out coughing fit (which is… unpredictable, sometimes it feels like it will just be your ordinary polite clearing of the throat, but once you start, you just can’t stop until you’re red in the face and there’s three little faces with giant eyes staring at you as you finally inhale), they ask me if I’m okay, and the worry in their voices just hurts. I’m lucky because I’m healthy, I have no permanent lung damage (yet… today’s x-ray came back with some minor inflammation but nothing that won’t pass), and chances are I will spend the summer coughing heavily but will be fine. I still wouldn’t wish this on any sensible people. I am also cooking up a post about vaccines and herd immunity and the like. With all the unplanned free time this weekend, it might just go up before Monday.

  38. says

    Giliell, congratulations!

    Charly, I hope the antibiotics do the job this time.

    Elder Daughter and bird studies -- she’s interested in the parallels between human and bird speech development. She did a study for her own interest back when she was working nest boxes with the Bluebird Club, and found that baby bluebirds learn to talk/sing just like human babies -- basic noises, then baby babble imitating the adults, gradually evolving to songs. Birds are complicated!

    Yesterday I brought home the spirit doll I made Aged Mum, thinking I’d pack it away and use the display dome for something else -- Younger Daughter loves it and asked if she could have it. So that was nice.

  39. Oggie: Mathom says

    Boy’s Wife has been seeing doctors three times a week. Stress tests on the twins. The difficult pregnancy specialists. Her ob/gyn.

    MFH (the problem pregnancy specialists) have said c-section in two weeks. Her ob/gyn, with the same information, says four weeks.

    They have scheduled a c-section on May 15 (about 1 month before full term).

    One baby will definitely be spending time in the NICU. The larger twin, maybe.

    Feels weird. I already know their names. I already know which is which. And now I know the day they will be born (assuming nothing new comes up).

    Grandfatherhood approaches.

    Wife and I have already agreed on our grandparent names. I will be Grumpy.

  40. rq says

    I admit to wishing the anti-vaxxers could have the kind of terrifying fever hallucinations I had inflicted on them every day until they saw sense

    This will be a part of my post -- I wouldn’t wish any disease on any children, but I certainly wish them upon all adult anti-vaxxers, as many as it takes for them to admit that vaccines are THE greatest discovery of civilisation.

  41. voyager says

    I’m sorry your mother endured so much. Polio is merciless. I often think the anti-vaxxers have never seen a child suffer.

    I’m sorry you’re having such a rough go of it. It must be awful to see your children worry.

  42. voyager says

    It’s good to know your test results are negative for serious pathology, although still not knowing what it is must be frustrating.

  43. voyager says

    You must be full of nervous excitement. I think Grumpy is an excellent choice as a grandfatherly name. It’s very endearing and won’t be true at all. What has your wife chosen as her grandmother name?

    It’s wonderful when the people we love the most value the things we make. Thanks for sending in the bookcover.

  44. rq says

    Best wishes for the incoming grand-offspring, Oggie! I hope everything goes as well as can and that any stays in hospital are as long as they need to be for everyone’s best health.

    I meant to say earlier I also love the idea of computer games for starlings, your Elder Daughter certainly has an extremely fascinating subject to study. And I hope for many great successes!
    Also *hugs* and *tea* for you.

    *holding thumbs* I hope this final round of antibiotics finally takes care of whatever it is that is trying to sabotage your physiological functions.

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