Dave Daubenmire has a recent column up, where he tries for “hey, look, I’m a reasonable guy” instead of his usual rant at the top of his voice idiocy. There’s still plenty of idiocy, interspersed in between attempts to establish his credibility as a feminist, but only a proper one, y’know. I’m going to skip all that, and the bit where he finds it necessary to try and illustrate empathy by how he treats his aging dog. This is important, because while Dave has never been a dog, he can feel for one. Just like Dave has never been a woman (something he takes great pains to emphasise), he can certainly feel for them. By golly, Dave is even married to a woman! And it is pointed out, more than once, that his wife is a genuine, born that way woman. Now, with all that out of the way…
So, even though I have never been, nor do I desire to be, a woman, I would like to offer some advice towards those who are. Sometimes it is easier for others to see the issue that someone is dealing with more clearly than the one that is struggling.
Just in case you thought there wouldn’t be any mansplaining here. Naturally, being a woman all your life (whether or not you have the characteristics) doesn’t mean a thing. No, no. It really truly takes a man to see what’s going on, in the case of every single woman ever, and rush right in with a fix for all woes. Dave starts out by painting women as struggling. Of course. All of life is just one huge pink struggle unless you giddily succumb to the rule of a man.
I feel sorry for many women today. Is that sexist for me to say? Is it culturally correct for me to feel sorry for a woman? I’m not sorry for saying so…even if it offends anyone.
Oh, signature mansplaining. Why bother asking when you don’t mean it?
My wife (as previously stated a woman) and I spend time regularly at our local abortion mill pleading for the lives of the unborn babies who are being dismembered there. In a bit of irony, I often find myself, having experienced parenthood, explaining to a young woman, who has never been a parent, the joys of parenthood.
Why is it that they don’t respect my opinion even though they have never experienced that joy? Women have been sold such a lie about motherhood. It grieves me to see how little respect most women have for blessings of being a woman.
First of all, Dave, why do you assume that every person walking into Planned Parenthood is there for a termination? The majority of people going to PP are there for standard health care, or contraception. I’ve been in and out of Planned Parenthoods for much of my life, not one time was for a termination. I did have one, but it wasn’t at PP. Most people are exposed to parenthood, given that we all start out as children. Those experiences vary greatly, and go on to shape our ideas and attitudes about family, including possibly having one at some point. Why don’t women respect your opinion, Dave? Well, for one, you assume you know their business at PP. You don’t. You assume you know what their ideas and feelings are in regard to family. You don’t. You assume they have this horrible notion of parenthood. That assumption is most likely altogether wrong, too.
Most people who want a termination have very good reasons for doing so, reasons which are none of your business. Most of those people already have children, also. You could always decide to celebrate the fact that a majority of women are completely aware of their limit when it comes to things like children. That’s sense. There’s no great lie going around, Dave. The fact of the matter is that terminations have been happening since forever, as has contraception, because not every person is cut out for the whole parenthood business, and that’s why, historically, you end up with children in grinding poverty, subject to abuse, being dumped in the gutter and left to their own devices. That still happens now. Naturally, things have always been easier for the rich, they could just hire mass amounts of servants to deal with those pesky children.
My wife and I are lucky enough to have been blessed with a son and two wonderful daughters. Michele has always been the perfect example of the Proverbs 31 woman and she has passed those characteristics along to our daughters. Both our daughters are WONDERFUL wives and mothers.
Let’s take a look:
31:10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
:Laughs: Everyone always ignores that bit about just how gosh darn hard it is to find a woman who is virtuous. Your very own book of myths points out their rarity, Dave, so perhaps you shouldn’t be so terribly surprised. Now, everyone always stops at 10, but that’s not the whole thing:
31:11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
31:12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
31:13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
31:14 She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
31:15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
31:16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
31:17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
31:18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
31:19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
31:20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
31:21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
31:22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
31:23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
31:24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
31:25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
31:26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
31:27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
31:28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
31:29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
31:30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
31:31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
Oh, there’s much fun to be had there. Strength and honour are her clothing! But there’s all that lovely, rich scarlet and purple! And silk, evil silk! Hee. Obviously, we are talking wealthy people here, not your run of the mill peasant.
Call me old fashioned but I look around at the young women today who despise the gift of motherhood. They have been sold a fake-feminism…the idea that the best thing a woman can aspire to be is on equal footing with a man.
Those are the empty women I see slinking into abortion clinics around America…women who have sold the gift of motherhood for the vain and nebulous appeal of equality. They are too blind to see that they are gifted in a way that a man can never be gifted. Can there possibly be a greater act of love on the earth than the sacrificing of a woman’s personal ambitions for the fruit of the womb?
What happened to John 15?
15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
If I were to sacrifice my mental and emotional health, along with whatever I wanted to do in my life, I don’t think I would have been any sort of parent at all. Why have something you’ll resent and grow to hate? Children who are not wanted come in for a great deal of abuse. And, I gotta say, giving your life for someone is the ultimate sacrifice, because that’s all we have.
Motherhood is forever. A career in a “man’s” world is temporary.
So is fatherhood, you dipshit. Careers tend to be most of a lifetime, and they can be just as satisfying as parenting. For some people, much more satisfying. Why aren’t you giving fatherhood equal footing, Dave? Are fathers not important? Is it not important they be there for all those milestones? Is it not important that they are there for the everyday care? Most people these days have to have duel incomes to get by, especially if they have children. So, there tends to be more equality in the care and feeding of children.
The poison fruit of the feminist movement is the fact that “equal footing” has granted millennial men the right to be irresponsible. “It is her choice” I often hear “fathers” say at the abortion clinic when we challenge them to protect their pre-born baby.
“Real men protect their babies…they don’t permit them to be killed,” we say to the immature fathers. “You aren’t a man when you can make a baby; you are a man when you can raise a baby.”
I guess with men and women being equal there is no need for a man to be a man.
No. This is about people being human beings, and decent ones. What people decide about whether or not to carry on with a pregnancy is a private decision, one that requires no input from strange assholes, Dave. Throughout every single age, men have always had the easiest of methods of dealing with an unwanted pregnancy on the part of a spouse or lover: they could just ignore it or walk. Why aren’t you out tracking down deadbeat dads and lecturing the hell out of them, Dave?
Look around you friends. How many young girls between the ages of 20 and 30 do you see that are childless? Whatever happened to the idea that the most fulfilling thing that you could ever do was to pass on your heritage to the next generation.
Ooooh, the nerve of people! Making up their own minds as to what they wish to do with their own lives. I’m childfree. I knew from a very early age I never wanted children. That’s a good thing. A very good thing. No one ever had the stupid fucking idea that passing on your heritage was the most fulfilling thing ever, there simply wasn’t much choice. If you wanted to have sexy fun times, well, you occasionally got stuck with kids, too. There’s a reason that women who had resources to avoid impregnation were wildly popular, and why so many wives of different eras were relieved when their husbands turned to them. Nothing is ever quite as simple as you christian idiots like to make out.
As strange as science has become in today’s world we still know that it is impossible to create a child without both a sperm and an egg.
Science hasn’t gotten strange, Dave. You’ve just fallen behind. Yes, you need those things to conceive, and they are hardly in short supply, and can be handily transferred all over the place. No problem.
As unfair as it may seem no man can EVER give birth to a new life.
Eh, give it time. I look forward to men getting pregnant. There will be many changes.
It is the greatest honor God ever gave to a human being…the carrying of an unborn child to the moment of birth.
Ah. But the moment after that, who gives a shit, right?
God gave that gift to a woman. No matter how often they try to brainwash you otherwise the joy of giving birth is the pinnacle of the human experience.
:Laughs: Um, your own book of myths stated that the pain of childbirth and all that crap was a forever and ever punishment on all women, because we’re all naughty and evil and stuff.
How much better America would be today if we had taught that simple truth to our children.
Idiots like you are teaching that nonsense to your children. Has it done any good?
As the old saying goes, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. That is the true power of womanhood. That is so much more important than simply being equal with a man.
Thank goodness this is the end, I’m bored silly. I’m not interested in the “powers” of womanhood, that’s all a bunch of bullshit. I’m not remotely concerned with being equal to men in the sense you mean, either. It’s enough, being a decent human being, that’s a lifetime of work, and always listening, learning, and growing. There’s much more to life than christian idiocy, Dave.
chigau (違う) says
This, and the rest of that paragraph -- THANK YOU!
The whole “joys of parenthood” just makes me angry -- and I’m a parent. I enjoy being a parent, but it’s not all unicorns and rainbows. And to be perfectly honest, while I’m glad we had Son, being a father wasn’t a huge part of what I wanted to be/do as I was growing up and becoming an adult. And “father” is only a small part of how I see or identify myself.
Exactly. Referring to the “joys” above, I’ve gotten more joy out of being married and learning to become less of a male-asshole than being a parent.
Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk- says
Also, I want the career and the kids, thank you very much.
chigau (違う) says
That VW in Proverbs doesn’t appear to do any actual cooking.
No, but she does make sure her maidservants have a portion of meat, because someone has to do all that fucking work.
Well, I read today that children get sick because their mothers are psychologically unstable and they pass those negative vibes onto their children. And fathers are responsible for the mental well-being of mothers (by giving neck massages, not sharing the labour, by the way), because women just can’t handle that leadership stuff.
And before that, it was some dude saying how women who work are precious, but they shouldn’t overdo it -- money doesn’t last forever, and they have no need to prove themselves the equals of men. What about loving what you do, dipshit?
We’re just cute fluffy sex-pets pretending to be all grown up and masterly, apparently. Avoiding our One True Calling (aka the Cry of the Baby).
No winning this game.
But as Giliell says, I’ll have the career and the kids, thanks. I’m quite sure Husband is well-prepared to do some of that fancy baby-sitting in this endeavour, and maybe even *gasp* prepare a few meals along the way.
As for the joys of childbirth, do not get me started. And I had it easy.
(Interestingly, we’ve recently visited friends and family with young children 1 year or less, and I have confirmed that I hate babies. Having 3 of my own has done nothing to instill that mothering instinct I should have developed. I think that means I fail as a Woman.)
I quote: “Why is it that they don’t respect my opinion even though they have never experienced that joy?” Because they know more about it, while you, as they say, don’t know shit.
Dude who wrote the diatribe above: these women are the leading world experts on their own lives. They know WAY more stuff than you do about their lives, like for just an example, how much money they have in the bank, where they work, where they live and what their plans are. You, Diatribe Dude, don’t know any of that.
I have a hard time grokking this idea of “everyone has to feel and think exactly the same way I do or else they are WRONG”.
Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk- says
I quite like babies, now that none of them are my own.
Several colleagues brought their babies to some of the late in school year social events. They were cute.
They were also fortunately not mine.
I had my dinner in peace.
I don’t like babies, I don’t care who they belong to.
YOB - Ye Olde Blacksmith says
So where do people like Honored First Wife (the career corporate breadwinner) and I (the stay at home dad that does the cooking & cleaning) fall in his little world? Is HFW a virtuous woman? Am I a “real” man when I’m sewing theater costumes for the YOBling (only child)?
On second thought, nevermind. Don’t care. We’ll just continue to live our happy lives and I’ll still continue to volunteer down at the PP.
As my mum says, the best part is giving them back to their parents, preferably in full cry.
But no, no babies for me. My own were quite enough, and they have improved with age (at least their conversational capabilities and imaginations; let’s not get into things like willing co-operation and going to school).