Aaron Ciechanover: Drug discovery and biomedical research in the 21st century: the third revolution

The first few talks this morning focused primarily on policy as illuminated by science; only the third talk was pure science.

Chiechanover’s talk was on both the history and future of drug research, which he characterized in terms of three major revolutions in the last century.

The first revolution was a period of accidental discoveries in 1930s-1960s, where the discovery of a useful drug comes first, by observation of therapeutic effects, followed by chemical isolation, and only at the end (if at all), is the mechanism of action worked out. He gave the example of aspirin. Willow tree bark used for pain relief since at least Aristotle, but the active agent (salicylin) was only isolated in the 19th century by Buchner, and it was initially useless medically: it was water-insoluble and extremely bitter. Gerhard acetylated it to make it soluble near the end of the 19th century (but didn’t take advantage of it as a clinical tool), and Hoffman (who made Bayer rich) repeated the acetylation and turned it into a useful drug, using it to treat his father, who was sick with arthritis. It’s mechanism, as an inhibitor of prostaglandin synthesis, was not discovered until the late 20th century. The drug also prevents platelet aggregation, so is also being used in heart disease prevention, and its anti-inflammatory action may also make it a preventative for some cancers. However, it is a story of complete serendipity.

Another example of fortuitous discovery was Fleming’s penicillin, which was a major factor in nearly doubling human lifespan in about a century, and antibiotics in general opened up the potential for all kinds of life-saving procedures, such as surgery.

The Second revolution occurred in the 1970s-2000s, and was planned. The key innovation here is high throughput, brute force screening of large libraries of chemical compounds, which he compared to “fishing in a swamp”. We have no idea what we’ll find, but there is the expectation that some compound will be found that will have a useful effect. It is a procedure that still relies serendipity, we’ve merely elevated the chances of finding something, and of exploiting it rapidly.

The example given was the work of Akira Endo, who knew that fungi were resistant to parasites, presumably because they contained agents to suppress bacterial cell wall synthesis by inhibiting cholesterol production. His work led to the discovery of statins, which has become a $20 billion/year industry for reducing to cholesterol levels in patients with heart disease. It has also been found to reduce the probability of heart attacks in patients who only have susceptibility for heart disease, and is now being used as a preventative in healthy patients (which is always a great way to vastly increase profits). It may also help with Alzheimers and malignancies, by mechanisms not currently known.

The third revolution is ongoing. The new strategy is understanding the mechanism first, followed by targeted design. He illustrated the problem with current pharmaceuticals by pointing out that men with prostate cancer and women with breast cancer are treated with the same tools: imaging technology, histology, and chemotherapy. These are different diseases! At the same time, two women may be diagnosed with breast cancer, but one will be estrogen sensitive and the other will be estrogen insensitive, which means that an effective treatment for one may be a lethal waste of time for the other. We aren’t treating the disease specifically, but are using a one-treatment-fits-all formula for for general disease. What we need is a molecular diagnosis of tumors to fit treatment plans individually.

He thinks we are entering an era of personalized medicine. One example he gave was herceptin, which is an antibody targeted for the EGF receptor. People with a mutant, constitutively active EGF receptor are susceptible to certain kinds of cancers, so this is a very useful drug for down-regulating EGF activity. But for people with wild-type receptors, it’s completely useless. The utility of this drug relies on diagnosis by PCR of specific alleles to find candidates for drug use.

He sees great promise in cheaper whole genome sequencing as an important tool for personalized medicine, and is looking forward to the days of the thousand-dollar genome. He also advocates a systems approach: interdisciplinary action will be needed to put together useful solutions.

The problems he foresees with personalized, targeted therapies are:

  • Multigenic deseases. Most of these diseases and susceptibilities aren’t going to be the product of single alleles, but of multiple, interacting genes. That means answers won’t be simple, but will require an understanding of combinatorial effects.

  • Malignancies are typically the product of genomic instability. They are moving targets.

  • Complications of human experimentation. We can’t just pin down patients and run them through a series of carefully controlled trials, so working out the effective details of personalized medicine are going to be hard.

  • Lack of good animal models. A mouse is not a human. We can’t do the necessary experiments on people, but at the same time we can’t entirely trust the results of animal experiments.

  • Costs and legal liabilities. Medicine is done for profit. How do you pay for tools that work on tiny percentages of the population?

  • Bioethical problems. Information has repercussions. How do individuals cope with the knowledge that they might have, for instance, elevated susceptibility to breast cancer? How will it affect their relationships with family and spouses (or prospective mates)?

  • This was a good talk, but very, very general. I’m hoping we get some more scientific meat in other talks.

    By the way, the way the meetings are run at Lindau is a little different than I’m used to — there is no Q&A afterwards! However, what they do instead is schedule small group meetings with the Nobelist speakers and the “Young Investigator” group of attendees, to which people here as press (like me!) are not invited, which is too bad from my point of view, but is probably a very good way to give people with more direct interests good access to the speaker.

    Freakshow highlighted in NY Times

    It’s getting to be a regular feature—every year, the NY Times must do a story on that bizarre miseducation monument, the Creation “Museum”. This time around, the story isn’t too awful — it focuses on the recent NAPC meeting, in which several professional paleontologists paid a visit to the creationist carnival to be alternately appalled and amused.

    Several people have asked when I’m going to visit Ken Ham’s temple. It’s been settled! It’s all arranged, but no thanks at all to Ham. Here’s the deal: I’m going to be speaking at the Secular Student Alliance conference in August, which is being held in Columbus, Ohio…only two hours away from the museum! Sharp-eyed and chronologically aware Phil Ferguson noticed this interesting conjunction, and suggested that I adjust my travel schedule a tiny bit and come down a day early, and we’d take a little side trip. The SSA was amenable and tweaked my flight dates, and it is all happening!

    On Friday, 7 August, a small group of godless people, including yours truly, will be at the “museum” when it opens at 10am on Friday, 7 August. Everyone is welcome to join in—we’ll pack the joint with quietly chortling science-minded people. When I get back from Lindau, I’ll also write to Ken Ham and request the pleasure of an audience, inviting him to come on out and evangelize to secular students.

    It should be great fun. I’ve got a long list of questions to ask the docents…so long that I’m going to have to prune it down a lot. Come on out and join the party! And as long as you are, you might want to think about signing up for the SSA conference, which should be more informative.

    Actually, a half-hour at a nearby sewage treatment plant would be more informative. The SSA meeting will be even better than that!

    Clock reset in progress

    It is time for the first big challenge of the week: getting my circadian rhythms straightened around. It feels like about 11:30 in the evening, my biological time, but it’s actually 6:30am Lindau time. Today is actually tomorrow.

    My strategy was actually planned. Yesterday was mostly travel through the night, and I got no sleep. I noticed as I was flying east and getting very, very tired that, as the sun came up at what was an unnatural time for me and started zapping my photoreceptors, I woke up very nicely…and then kept going through the agonizing day of missed flights and boring waits. Then last night (local time) I finally got to Lindau in time for some of the social events and just kept my brain going through the evening. I finally went to bed about 10:30 Lindau, and slept wonderfully.

    I had set an alarm, but didn’t need it — again, the first rosy light of dawn comes in through my window, and I was up and feeling pretty good. I think I’ll take the next step in completing my adjustment to this 7 hour shift in time, and I suspect it’s one the circadian researchers haven’t contemplated (I shall have to ask Bora): a fine breakfast of German pastries. That should keep me going through the morning talks.

    By the way, this is the Lindau Nobel conference, and the topic this year is chemistry. I am not a chemist, which means I may not have a clue what anyone is talking about. However, I’ve got one angle that may help: I am a microscopist. This morning, I’m looking forward to Neher talking about caged compounds — there’s also some juicy stuff on protein degradation and renewable energy. Later this week, of course, it’s Shimomura, Chalfie, and Tsien on bioluminescence, which is all grist for the microscopist mill. I might just come out of this with some new understanding.

    Und Bier! Tonight I must find a good dunkel — last night the conference only provided a so-so bottled Pils. Then this evening I shall try to post some summaries of the day’s science while under the influence. It should be entertaining!

    In Lindau, at last

    I really need to learn a good collection of creative German cuss words. It’s been a harrowing, overlong day and a half of travel, with late flights leading to missed connections leading to long periods standing in lines with Germans, who were all very nice and helpful, except that I learned that even if your flight is leaving in ten minutes they will politely tell you that no, you cannot move to the front of the line. And now at last, though, I have finally arrived at my lovely funky hotel in Lindau, and it’s a beautiful afternoon, and I’m going to take a pleasant walk down to the lake, and maybe I don’t need those rude German words after all.

    I do need a shower first, though. Running through airports tends to generate a bit of musk.

    Expelled redux

    They’re doing it again. There’s a new movie being released, The Voyage That Shook the World, that you can tell from the tagline — “One man, one voyage, one book ignited a controversy that still rages today” — is creationist trash (hint: there is no scientific controversy anymore on this matter). Look a little further, and you’ll find it’s produce by Creation Ministries International, which tells you right there what their agenda is: to tell lies for Jesus.

    Here’s where the parallel to Expelled lies…in the lies. They got several Darwin experts (Peter Bowler, Sandra Herbert, and Janet Browne) to appear in the “documentary” by concealing their motives. And then they admit to cherry-picking the interviews to put together their story.

    You know, if they actually had an honest message, if they could be trusted to present the opinions of the experts accurately, they wouldn’t need to deceive to get people to contribute to their projects. As it is, all we can trust them on is their ability to mangle the facts. Doesn’t this tell you something about the credibility of the creationist movement?

    At least they didn’t hire Ben Stein as a frontman.

    I may not be perfectly rational, but my magic invisible monkeys are!

    John Wilkins has tried to make some arguments for accommodationism. I am unimpressed. He makes six points that I briefly summarize here, with my reply.

    1. It’s the job of the religious to reconcile their beliefs with science, and atheists don’t get to “insist that nobody else can make the claim that their religious belief is consistent with science.” The first part is obvious — we aren’t going to compromise science with superstition, nor are we going to make excuses for them. The second part makes no sense. Nobody has been making that demand…but we will point out how silly the excused people make are.

    2. The usual excuse that making nice with religion is strategic, coupled with the claim that religion is always going to be around. Other people can be strategic. Scientists just ought to be honest. As for the tired argument that religion will always be around — no. Some of us have shed the old myths. More will follow. I don’t have any problem seeing a coming future where religious belief is an irrelevant minority position. Of course, if you start out with a defeatist attitude, it becomes a bit more difficult.

    3. Some scientists are religious, and we don’t have the right to insist that they give it up. I have not heard a single atheist insist that anyone must give up their religion. I can imagine a majority voluntarily giving it up, but my imagination fails at the idea of going up to some believer and ordering them to stop believing. How do we do that? So, sorry, Wilkins — it’s another complaint about something no one is proposing.

    4. Scientific institutions shouldn’t be asserting that science is compatible with religion — let the religious do that themselves. That’s the very same thing the atheists have been saying all along.

    5. Religion has always been wrong about the natural world, but religion is seeking knowledge of something different. Again, first part fine, second part weird. What knowledge? Can you even call it “knowledge” if it’s nothing that anyone can know? Why should we accept any claims by religion?

    6. NOMA is wrong, and there is no war between religion and science. Wilkins continues his pattern of being half right. I agree that NOMA was a false attempt at reconciliation. I disagree that there is no conflict between religion and science. Religion is an archaic, failed mode of thinking that continues to demand greater respect than it deserves, and exploits tradition, fear, and emotion to maintain its undeserved position. Wilkins tries to compare it to two dancers jostling for space on a dance floor, I prefer to think of it as one dancer, humanity, afflicted with lice, religion, and twitching and squirming unpleasantly while struggling with a persistent parasite.

    So, a resounding “eh”. However, then he tosses out this bizarre bit of philosophical insipidity that irritates, like an annoying bit of grit in my shoe. It’s one of those superficially reasonable comments that, with just a little thought, looks awfully stupid.

    Only those who are completely without self-knowledge think they are entirely rational on every subject, and that this licenses attacking others for their perceived failings in that respect. I know I won’t change their mind either.

    Grrr. Once again, we’ve got a caricature of the atheist position: who among us claims perfect self-knowledge and flawless rationality? We’re human beings, last I looked. However, to imply that we can therefore have no license to criticize irrationality is to claim that no one can say anything ever against foolishness. It’s an abdication of intellectual responsibility.

    If I were to announce that I were absolutely rational and that I had perfect knowledge, I would expect to be rightfully attacked by people like John Wilkins for my obvious failing. Hey, he just did — even though I’ve never made such an assertion. But I think we’d both agree that such an extravagant claim would most definitely be an astonishing foolishness that ought to be smacked down. What a crazy idea!

    John clearly thinks some philosophical claims are wrong. But the curious thing is that he thinks certain other claims are beyond our capacity to criticize.

    If, for instance, someone believes that a god gave us magical absolution by turning into a man and dying temporarily, well, heck—that may not be an irrational, wacky idea at all. If this someone claims that they have a magical communication line to an omniscient superman who assures him that the 36-hour death absolution was really, really true, we should step back, take a charitably philosophical view of the idea, and abstain from calling him a very silly man.

    There are limits to what we can attack as bad ideas.

    But, apparently, there are no limits to the absurdities that the religious can advance.

    It’s an asymmetrical situation that will be maintained as long as we have people insisting that we grant religious ideas a specially protected status. I reject that — I’m going to insist that it is fair game to attack the obvious failings of religion. And it’s not because I am unaware of the limitations of my knowledge, or because I believe I’m flawlessly rational.

    It’s because the invisible monkeys in my pants dart out every once in a while to whisper the truth in my ear, in the ancient language of omniscient primates. And that is a source of knowledge nobody can attack me on, by Wilkins’ rules.

    The last radio reminder

    Sad (in some ways) to say, Atheists Talk radio will make its last broadcast Sunday at 9am Central time. They will continue, but they’ll be moving to a podcast format rather than continuing to be sandwiched in between woo-woo altie nonsense programs, which is a good thing.

    The show tomorrow will feature Greg Laden discussing missionaries. He doesn’t like ’em. Neither do I. It should be a very good last hurrah.

    Nice ankles

    It took a while to convince the Trophy Wife to let me take pictures of her feet and post them on the internet. Wait, that’s not as kinky as it sounds! She’s been loafing about in these nice socks she was sent by our very own Patricia, OM, using yarn colors based on the Spanish Shawl nudibranch, and I just think they need to be acknowledged — but maybe you haven’t noticed, but she likes to avoid the whole interwubbley fanfare. Finally, though, I caught her with her toasty warm tootsies atop an ottoman and snapped this shot, so there you are: beautiful socks and a rare image of the Trophy Wife.

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    Thanks, Patricia!

    Jodi and Jason

    In case you missed the trail of links that magically appeared on several blogs this morning, here it is:

    Almost DiamondsSkepchickGreg Laden’s BlogWhitecoat UndergroundTraumatized By TruthMy Fair ScientistNeurotopiaA Blog Around the ClockPharyngula

    What it all led up to was a marriage proposal from Jodi Haynes to Jason Thibeault, which would have been a bit of a bummer if he’d said “No”, but we’re all pleased to hear that he said “Yes!”

    A few people seem to be baffled by the business of a pair of proud atheists going through this “marriage” stuff. Isn’t that a religious ritual?

    No! It’s an example of human values and human commitment that has been coopted by religious institutions — just as they want you to think you can’t be born and you can’t die without an attending parasite from some superstitious dogma, they also want you to believe you can’t stand up and declare your love for another person without a holy gatekeeper. No gods intervene, no priests can sanctify, and no government can dictate when two people care enough about each other that they willingly and publicly declare that they have a lasting bond. Nothing else matters.

    So good godless congratulations to Jodi and Jason, from one happily married pair of atheists to another.