The Fundamental View.


Here’s someone else who is saying much of the same things I’ve been saying about the wealth of incredibly wrong “analyses” of white, rural Christians. I have already made the point, more than once, that most people are dead wrong in their supposed reasoning. I do live rural, and it’s very white where I am, and very Christian. It is not, however, terribly fundamentalist in nature, or if it is, I’m unaware of it, and that’s fine. There are excellent points made about the rigidity and closed nature of fundamentalist Christianity. All religions, by their nature, in particular, abrahamaic based religions, are closed systems. You’re supposed to believe what you have been told to believe, and you certainly are not supposed to question said beliefs, nor engage in rigorous learning, which might start causing you to think all that religious stuff is plain old bullshit in a pretty wrapper. Forsetti’s Justice, AlterNet, has a very in-depth look at the fundamental core of white, rural, Christian America.

…Another problem with rural, Christian, white Americans is they are racists. I’m not talking about white hood-wearing, cross-burning, lynching racists (though some are). I’m talking about people who deep down in their heart of hearts truly believe they are superior because they are white. Their white God made them in his image and everyone else is a less-than-perfect version, flawed and cursed.

The religion in which I was raised taught this. Even though they’ve backtracked on some of their more racist declarations, many still believe the original claims. Non-whites are the color they are because of their sins, or at least the sins of their ancestors. Blacks don’t have dark skin because of where they lived and evolution; they have dark skin because they are cursed. God cursed them for a reason. If God cursed them, treating them as equals would be going against God’s will. It is really easy to justify treating people differently if they are cursed by God and will never be as good as you no matter what they do because of some predetermined status.

Once you have this view, it is easy to lower the outside group’s standing and acceptable level of treatment. Again, there are varying levels of racism at play in rural, Christian, white America. I know people who are ardent racists. I know a lot more whose racism is much more subtle but nonetheless racist. It wouldn’t take sodium pentothal to get most of these people to admit they believe they are fundamentally better and superior to minorities. They are white supremacists who dress up in white dress shirts, ties, and gingham dresses. They carry a Bible and tell you, “everyone’s a child of God” but forget to mention that some of God’s children are more favored than others and skin tone is the criterion by which we know who is and who isn’t at the top of God’s list of most favored children.


Another major problem with closed-off, fundamentalist belief systems is they are very susceptible to propaganda. All belief systems are to some extent, but fundamentalist systems even more so because there are no checks and balances. If bad information gets in, it doesn’t get out and because there are no internal mechanisms to guard against it, it usually ends up very damaging to the whole. A closed-off belief system is like your spinal fluid—it is great as long as nothing infectious gets into it. If bacteria gets into your spinal fluid, it causes unbelievable damage because there are no white blood cells in it whose job is to fend off invaders and protect the system. This is why things like meningitis are so horrible. Without the protective services of white blood cells in the spinal column, meningitis spreads like wildfire once it’s in and does significant damage in a very short period of time. Once inside the closed-off spinal system, bacteria are free to destroy whatever they want.

The very same is true with closed-off belief systems. Without built-in protective functions like critical analysis, self-reflection, openness to counter-evidence, willingness to re-evaluate any and all beliefs, etc., bad information in a closed-off system ends up doing massive damage in short period of time. What has happened to too many fundamentalist belief systems is damaging information has been allowed in from people who have been granted “expert status.” If someone is allowed into a closed-off system and their information is deemed acceptable, anything they say will readily be accepted and become gospel.

Rural, Christian, white Americans have let in anti-intellectual, anti-science, bigoted, racists into their system as experts like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, any of the blonde Stepford Wives on Fox, every evangelical preacher on television because they tell them what they want to hear and because they sell themselves as being “one of them.” The truth is none of these people give a rat’s ass about rural, Christian, white Americans except how can they exploit them for attention and money. None of them have anything in common with the people who have let them into their belief systems with the exception they are white and they “speak the same language” of white superiority, God’s will must be obeyed, and how, even though they are the Chosen Ones, they are the ones being screwed by all the people and groups they believe they are superior to.

Gays being allowed to marry are a threat. Blacks protesting the killing of their unarmed friends and family are a threat. Hispanics doing the cheap labor on their farms are somehow viewed a threat. The black president is a threat. Two billion Muslims are a threat. The Chinese are a threat. Women wanting to be autonomous are a threat. The college educated are a threat. Godless scientists are a threat. Everyone who isn’t just like them has been sold to them as a threat and they’ve bought it hook, line, and grifting sinker. Since there are no self-regulating mechanisms in their belief systems, these threats only grow over time. Since facts and reality don’t matter, nothing you say to them will alter their beliefs. “President Obama was born in Kenya, is a secret member of the Muslim Brotherhood who hates white Americans and is going to take away their guns.” I feel ridiculous even writing this, it is so absurd, but it is gospel across large swaths of rural America. Are rural, Christian, white Americans scared? You’re damn right they are. Are their fears rational and justified? Hell no. The problem isn’t understanding their fears. The problem is how to assuage fears based on lies in closed-off fundamentalist belief systems that don’t have the necessary tools for properly evaluating the fears.

The full article is here. Highly recommended.


  1. Kengi says

    Greg Laden also had a good post up about Minnesota racism and how shutting it down is more important than trying to be rational and reasonable to the racists.

  2. brucegee1962 says

    One of the worst thing about pretty much the entire Bible is the concept of a “chosen people.” It’s pervasive all the way through. As soon as you’re exposed to it, you start thinking, “Gee, am I one of those chosen people? I know I’m a good person, so I guess I must be. But if some people are chosen, that means some people must not be chosen. I wonder who those people are? Probably people I don’t like anyway.”

    I remember thinking that way myself, back when I believed.

  3. says


    But if some people are chosen, that means some people must not be chosen. I wonder who those people are? Probably people I don’t like anyway.”

    We aren’t nearly as evolved as we like to think, people have this terrible need to feel superior to someone, anyone. The bible caters to that nicely.

  4. lorn says

    I think the above description is fairly accurate. Particularly the observations that there are few, if any mechanisms, to correct errors, and that the currency of these beliefs are emotional and beyond the reach of normal discussion and logic. It is a difficult problem to address.

    Difficult, but not impossible. Spelunking and climbing experience, and a little Psych 101, suggests a possible tactic. A quirk of the mind is that it is almost impossible to both feel a emotion and evaluate the emotion. Tight spaces in caves bring forth hidden weaknesses. Stuff a perfectly stable and confident person into a tight, dark spot and their composure sometimes comes apart. People who never thought of themselves as claustrophobic, acrophobic, afraid of being alone in the dark find themselves hard up against their limits. In my experience it is more often the overtly confident that come apart at the seams.

    It happens and leading a group you need to be able to handle it in a constructive way, and before someone gets hurt. A little light talk therapy seems to work. I get them to tell me how freaked out they are on a scale of one to ten.

    So Muslims, and scientists, and educated people, liberated women, unbowed black and brown people are all threats. Okay, sure, perhaps they could tell us all which one is the most urgent threat. Try to rate the threats. One to ten. having to quantify and rank the threats drains away the fear and moves the discussion away from emotion and into the realm of logic. We can win the fight we can’t win with emotion if we move it all into the world of logic and reason.

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