Michael Ruse probably won’t be able to read this, either

We have made Michael Ruse very sad and very angry. He has an essay up called Why I Think the New Atheists are a [Bloody] Disaster, in which he bemoans the way he has been abused by these brutal atheists, and explains how he thinks these godless scientists are damaging the cause of science and science education. Here’s the heart of his pitiful complaint.

Richard Dawkins, in his best selling The God Delusion, likens me to Neville Chamberlain, the pusillanimous appeaser of Hitler at Munich. Jerry Coyne reviewed one of my books (Can a Darwinian be a Christian?) using the Orwellian quote that only an intellectual could believe the nonsense I believe in. And non-stop blogger P. Z. Myers has referred to be as a “clueless gobshite.” This invective is all because, although I am not a believer, I do not think that all believers are evil or stupid, and because I do not think that science and religion have to clash. (Of course some science and religion clashes. That is the whole point of the Darwinism-Creationism debate. The matter is whether all science and religion clash, something I deny strongly.)

It’s true — I did call him a clueless gobshite. However, the reason is most definitely not what I have highlighted in his comment above, and apparently he was not able to read what I wrote for comprehension — perhaps he was stunned by my invective, and went temporarily blind when he looked at the page, seeing nothing but “clueless gobshite” in 72 point bold blinking text.

No, what has earned him our ire is his weirdly selective criticisms — the way he consistently leans favorably towards creationism, giving the most charitable interpretations of their motives while gently chiding them for their beliefs, and conversely, trying to turn on flamethrower rhetoric at the atheists (‘trying’, I say, because all he can generate anymore is a confused and intermittent sputter), damning them for their bad philosophy and accusing them of being out to demolish science.

This latest essay is a perfect example. Look at what he does here:

But I think first that these people do a disservice to scholarship. Their treatment of the religious viewpoint is pathetic to the point of non-being. Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion would fail any introductory philosophy or religion course. Proudly he criticizes that whereof he knows nothing. As I have said elsewhere, for the first time in my life, I felt sorry for the ontological argument. If we criticized gene theory with as little knowledge as Dawkins has of religion and philosophy, he would be rightly indignant. (He was just this when, thirty years ago, Mary Midgeley went after the selfish gene concept without the slightest knowledge of genetics.) Conversely, I am indignant at the poor quality of the argumentation in Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, and all of the others in that group.

I don’t think there can be any doubt that he has nothing but contempt for the arguments of the “New Atheists”, and he is not at all hesitant to say so. They have not met his standards of philosophical scholarship, and it rouses him to the full fury of an offended academic, one who must put these scoundrels in their place. Bad philosophy is a cardinal sin to Michael Ruse, that is the honest and objective basis for his complaints — it couldn’t possibly be a lingering belief in belief, or perhaps even some professional jealousy, or that for many years he has been in a comfortable back-patting relationship with the creationists in which he politely disputes their claims, after which Ruse and the creationists mutually congratulate each other on their civility and open-mindedness, and he receives his honoraria.

No, it must be our poor reasoning and slovenly philosophy. But then, how do we explain this?

In the past few years, we have seen the rise and growth of a group that the public sphere has labeled the “new atheists” – people who are aggressively pro-science, especially pro-Darwinism, and violently anti-religion of all kinds, especially Christianity but happy to include Islam and the rest. Actually the arguments are not that “new,” but no matter – the publicity has been huge. Distinctive of this group, although well known to anyone who studies religion and the way in which sects divide and proliferate, is the fact that (with the possible exception of the Catholic Church) nothing incurs their wrath than those who are pro-science but who refuse to agree that all and every kind of religious belief is wrong, pernicious, and socially and personally dangerous. Recently, it has been the newly appointed director of the NIH, Francis Collins, who has been incurring their hatred. Given the man’s scientific and managerial credentials – completing the HGP under budget and under time for a start – this is deplorable, if understandable since Collins is a devout Christian.

Wait…this makes no sense. He says, “The God Delusion makes me ashamed to be an atheist” — has he read The Language of God? Has he even tried to wade into the embarrassingly inane philosophy of Collins’ BioLogos website? I mean, seriously, if he is such a paragon of intellectual purity that he is furiously offended at Dawkins’ work, why is he not also protesting the grade-school foolishness of Collins’ arguments? Why, in all these sniping public essays he’s been writing these past few years, does he always find excuses to blister the atheists’ hides, while making kindly apologies for or ignoring the greater failings of his creationist and religious friends?

Furthermore, he consistently predicts woe and doom and disaster because those darned atheists are so wrong and stupid and annoying, while never making the same extravagant lamentations about the effects of institutionalized creationism and religion, which has far more public power and influence. Always, the blame falls on those who challenge most strongly the pernicious effects of faiths that defy reason and science.

That’s why he gets called a clueless gobshite and a pusillanimous appeaser and a pusher of nonsense. It has nothing to do with not thinking “that all believers are evil or stupid”, because I don’t think that, and neither do any of these “New Atheists” that I know. In that essay which gave him conniptions, I plainly spelled that out, repeatedly and strongly saying that I think most creationists are victims of a con game, and are neither evil nor stupid. I don’t know how he could now quote two words of mine from that post without noting that all the rest of it contradicts his claims about us…except, perhaps, that strange temporary blindness syndrome that fries his occipital lobe at the sight of “clueless gobshite”.

We’ve also repeatedly pointed out that our opposition to Collins is definitely not because he is a Christian, but it seems to be futile to mention that to these apologists. I guess in a world where Catholic priests can be excused for raping children because they are Christians, it’s hopeless to expect that the slighter offense of being an irrational proselytizer with a poor understanding of evolution won’t be excused for the same reason, that the poor fool is a Christian. It’s an interesting defense; apparently no one will ever be able to criticize a Christian nominee for high office ever again, and the safest strategy for those on that kind of career track is to be the wackiest possible Christian you can be.

But otherwise, just look at the rhetoric in his essay: at every opportunity, he uses positive language and generous words for his friends the creationists, and the strongest condemnations for prominent atheists; there is absolutely no question where his loyalties lie. At the same time, he levies no blame and holds to no fault the organized liars for Jesus who promote Intelligent Design creationism…while the atheists are taking the country down the road to disaster, disaster, disaster. Could he possibly, at some point in his fading career and diminishing credibility, take a deep, deep breath and notice who is snuggling up to lawmakers and sneaking creationism into our school boards, who is propagandizing creationism to our teachers, who is throwing buckets of money into press releases and ideological conferences (in which Michael Ruse cheerfully participates) that deny science and promote anti-science?

Ah, probably not. He knows he would have no future in a secular world, and his fortunes right now are too strongly tied to his blithe role as the ever-helpful intermediary to the creationists.

There’s more that could be deconstructed in his pathetic whine — Jerry Coyne rips into his claim that atheism damages education. I’m not going to accuse Ruse of being a bloody disaster to progress, though, since he has become a trivial irrelevancy and a rather silly figure who takes pride in standing on a bridge between good science and people who believe Jesus created the dinosaurs, reassuring everyone on the crazy side that it’s OK to cuddle up to ignorance.


I guess I have become so accustomed to the anti-atheist hyperbole that I hadn’t even noticed something several commenters have pointed out: Ruse calls the “New Atheists” “violently anti-religion”. Violently? Really?

Here’s all I can say about that.

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Build your own “Museum”!

Did you miss out on our trip to the Creation “Museum” last week? Do you wish you could see such amazing inanity on display, but you live far away and you just don’t think it’s worth the money? Or perhaps you just don’t want to give AiG a penny. Well, here’s your solution: make your own! It’s easy, it’s cheap, and trust me, it’s just as scientifically accurate.

All you have to do is go to your local WalMart and browse the toy section. Get a random assortment of plastic animals, arrange them into a beautiful diorama, and take pictures. Presto! That’s what these clever people did.

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I just have to add that gluing googly eyes on everything was brilliant. It makes the whole display so much better than anything in the $27 million dollar monument to folly in Kentucky. (Uh-oh — I hope AiG isn’t reading this, or they’ll rush out and get bigger googly eyes to glue on all their exhibits, and increase their verisimilitude a thousand fold).

More stuff we missed at the Creation “Museum”

We more or less blitzed through the “museum” last Friday, and I think I speak for many of the 300 when I say that we’d had enough lunacy for the day. Some of us, apparently, had stronger stomachs, and went back for Terry Mortenson’s talk later that afternoon. Dr Mortenson is, I think, one of those people with Ph.D.s of whom Ken Ham is so proud…but man, that guy is freakin’ nuts. He spoke about human evolution, and you can guess where that went. Well, maybe. I wouldn’t have anticipated this:

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I know. One minute they’re telling us that Gawd created humans exactly as they are now, and all those hominin fossils are just apes, and the next, they’re telling us Homo erectus and Neandertal are just Noah’s great-grandkids (he had a very complicated family, didn’t he?). Consistency is one of those trivial details that gets thrown out when you dismiss human reason, I guess.

Despite the fact that we clearly missed a lot of the insanity going on there, I don’t think I need to go back.


File this under “Holy crap” — Jason also attended the lecture, and look what slide Mortenson showed at the end.

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That’s from the AiG website, too, so we aren’t making this up — you can go right to the source.

It doesn’t matter that they are imputing that imagery to evolution. Imagine if biologists put on blackface and started talking in thick dialect while claiming that’s what creationists think — that’s what those scumbags at AiG are doing.

Tulsa, Oklahoma must be paradise

That’s what I must conclude from Anna Falling’s priorities. She’s running for the office of mayor, and her #1 most important issue, the one she’s made the centerpiece of her campaign, is to get creationist displays installed in the Tulsa Zoo.

For Anna Falling, the road to city hall runs through the Tulsa Zoo.  She’s made her Christianity central to her platform and now the exhibit depicting the Christian story of Creationism is her first campaign promise.

“Today we are announcing that God will be glorified in this city.  He shall not be shunned. Upon our election, we hereby commit to honoring Him in all ways that He has been dishonored,” said Anna Falling.

This was news several years ago when the zoo board rejected a proposal to add sectarian Christian messages to their exhibits. The rejection must have rankled, since Falling now thinks this is the Most Important Issue for Tulsa.

Besides being ridiculous, though, it does make me marvel. The economy must be booming in Oklahoma; the mayor doesn’t have to concern herself with recruiting and maintaining new businesses. There must not be any crime. Race issues have disappeared. Education…oh, never mind, creationists don’t worry about good education, anyway. City services must be flawless.

I hope you Tulsans aren’t so lulled by the easy livin’ in Oklahoma that you don’t bother to participate in the political process any more. Get out of your easy chair on election day, strap on your jetpack or get in your flying car, zoom past the gumdrop mountain and the drinking fountains that dispense free beer, and vote!


Oh, wait. The Tulsa World reports that she’s making creationism in the zoos her top priority “among city issues that also include violent crime, budget woes and bumpy streets.” How can this be?

Maybe bumpy streets aren’t that big a deal when you get to work on angel’s wings.

Ken Ham, on the air, LYING again

Man, he is annoying. He is making a number of assertions about the age of the earth that are patently ridiculous: he claims 90% of all dating methods contradict the idea that the earth is millions of years old. This is simply not true. The key point in acceptance of the age of the earth is the concordance of the many methods.

When a caller asked him to name a few, he really couldn’t. He mentioned the hoary old creationist assertion that the amount of salt in the ocean is inadequate to match a 4 billion year old earth — but salt levels are in a roughly steady state.

I tried to call in to do one simple thing: to recommend the book Bones,Rocks, and Stars by Chris Turney, which would correct his many lies. Unfortunately, the phone lines are locked up solid — you guys are all calling in, aren’t you?


I got through! What a waste — he simply denied the evidence that salt levels are in a roughly steady state, and then to my vast amusement, tossed in his strongest argument: PZ Myers is an atheist. Can you say ad hominem, boys and girls? I tried to explain to him that the dating methods used are independent of religion, that both credible Christian geologists and physicists as well as Jewish, atheist, Muslim, Buddhist, whatever scientists have reached a consensus on this, but he just talked over me and claimed that those Christians have all compromised their faith. They are, apparently, not True Christians™.

Clearly, being an atheist does not discredit our opinions…but Fundamentalist Christians will so readily lie for Jesus that it does call their honesty into question.


Lisle is playing his word games again. Note: his book is titled “The Ultimate Proof of Creation”. He hasn’t even offered any evidence for creationism.


Very good question at the end: a caller asked, if the evidence is in support of creationism, why can’t they make an argument using just the science, leaving the Bible out of it? Lisle ducked it. He claims it’s a battle of worldviews, not just science — he’s basically conceding that he can’t do it.

I get email

Sometimes I get nice invitations.

My name is Nikki and I am a christian. I am 15 and very involved in my youth group and last week we were on a mission trip in kentucky. We went to the creation museum a few days before you did. I was looking for the museum’s website when i somehow found an article about you and your visit.. After looking at your blog i have come to the conclusion that nothing anyone says will change your mind on how you believe things work and about god.. Though being the gutsy girl i am, i am asking you to give me a chance and have a conversation with me about god and creation. I dont want to try to change your mind(because i know thats impossible) or anything, i just want to try to understand atheists opinions. I know you are busy being a professor and such, but i would really appreciate a response.

I’m not really interested in an email conversation, so instead I’ve sent her a reply with a link to this post right here, and a suggestion that she carry on a discussion with a whole group of atheists and agnostics and even a few of the Christians who hang out here.

If she shows up, try to be nice, and please…let’s avoid Prince references.

I think we successfully poked him with a sharp stick

Uh-oh, get the muzzle: Ken Ham is practically foaming at the mouth. He’s upset that I pointed out that one of his displays is a relic of a racist theory of human origins. And it is! He does a bit of yelling about credentials, too.

And this professor seems to have a fixation on me–yet, our own full-time PhD scientists and many other scientists who work in the secular world provided the research for the museum scripts. But, then again, he wouldn’t want to acknowledge that people with better qualifications than he holds (qualifications obtained from secular universities, including PhDs from Ivy League schools like Harvard and Brown) were behind the Creation Museum teaching. This man is obviously very angry at God and relishes in mocking Christianity–spending a lot of his time fighting against Someone he doesn’t believe exists!

These highly qualified PhD “scientists” believe in talking snakes, global floods, an earth that poofed into existence more than 10,000 years after the domestication of the dog, and that they can make a case against evolution by ignoring almost all of the evidence. They can wave their diplomas all they want, but against that palpable nonsense, I reject them bemusedly.

By the way, I’m not fighting against any of the gods, since they don’t exist. I do oppose the charlatans who claim they speak for the gods, because those frauds do exist. See “Ham, Ken” in the Kentucky phone book.

His anger stems from the fact that I showed this image from the museum.

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I then wrote this:

With complete seriousness and no awareness of the historical abuses to which this idea has been put, they were promoting the Hamite theory of racial origins, that ugly idea that all races stemmed from the children of Noah, and that black people in particular were the cursed offspring of Ham.

He demands that I document my claims…but I already did.

Look at the pretty picture (you can click on it to get a larger, readable version). Several times, it states that all races stemmed from the children of Noah. The picture specifically shows that Africans are descendants of Ham. Now go read the book of Genesis, which as we all know, AiG insists we must take absolutely literally.

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: 21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. 23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. 24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. 25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. 26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. 27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

So Ham, the father of all African peoples by this account, sees Noah drunk and naked, and Noah curses his child Canaan to be a servant of servants (what a nice Grandpa!). This is the doctrine that led apologists for slavery to declare that the children of Ham, that is Africans, were ordained to be servants. That’s the Hamite theory. It’s a completely bogus theory, wrong in all of its facts, and if Ken Ham is trying to defang its implications, good for him…but he’s still promoting a racist Biblical explanation that is false in all of its particulars.

We actually know quite a bit more about human ancestry than a gang of bronze age goatherds did. This is my genetic history, a map of the migrations of various genetic groups over tens of thousands of years. Note that we all came out of Africa. Note also that this map does not correspond at all to Ken Ham’s map of the magical diaspora of 2348 BC.

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It’s very nice of Ken Ham to now clearly deny the racism implicit in any literal interpretation of the Bible, and I urge him to continue in his progress towards recognizing the metaphorical aspect of these fables. Maybe soon we’ll even get him to realize that you can’t use the Bible to argue against “millions of years”, either!

However, I do recommend that he avoid the “some of my best friends are black” excuse. It’s very condescending and hokey.

Ironically, as this atheist was falsely accusing us of racism, I was in Seattle speaking in the church led by a black pastor–and a good friend of our ministry. See the photo of me and Pastor Hutchinson a former NFL football player. And I spoke Sunday evening against racism!

Keep speaking against racism, Mr Ham. But I think your words would be more meaningful if they were accompanied by commendable actions…such as ceasing the promotion of ignorance.

AiG is angry with us for reporting what they claim

Ken Ham is spluttering in indignation. It’s wonderful. He’s really peeved at the ABC News report because it mentioned a detail that is thoroughly trivial, but he claims is wrong. The report describes how animals spread around the world after the Flood on floating islands of matted logs and plants.

We do have replicas of Darwin’s Finches in the exhibit on Natural Selection where we discuss genetics and speciation, not God’s will!!–and we do talk about floating log mats after the Flood, but certainly nothing about “mankind spread from continent by walking across the floating trunks of trees knocked down during the Biblical Flood.”

Now see, this is where all the pictures we took in the museum become a very useful resource. I just rummaged about, and there they are!

Here’s a text panel that talks about his imaginary “floating forest”, giant rafts on which plants and animals spread around the world.

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Here’s his big map of the routes life took. One thing I can’t find a picture of, because it was a video that was playing, was this same sort of map, animated, with streams of log shaped objects swirling about in the ocean currents. It was there, believe me.

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And then there’s this. It was a huge painting of one of his giant floating islands. I remember it vividly, because it contained the only image in the whole place of a cephalopod (the small blob on the far right).

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This is precisely how Ham explains the dissemination of humanity after his Big-Ass Flood. Humans rode across the oceans on mats and clumps and lumps of floating debris that were churning about in the ocean currents.

PWNZ0RED, Ken Ham!


One more display from the museum: see, they were talking about log rafts.

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