Let’s see if closing the old long thread helps a little with the load here. Besides, you want to see the squidgirl anyway.
Also, good news: a fresh new server goes in tonight. Commenting will be temporarily shut down sometime after 9pm while the blogs get transferred, and when they’re switched on again, these performance problems should be gone.
Cath the Canberra Cook says
Oh dear, I had a SIWOTI outbreak over there.
Cath the Canberra Cook says
Ophelia’s that is. Not RiotACT.
Clavd says
I initially got confused yesterday because Mozilla has a Chrome folder containing an userContent-example.css in a folder called Profile under Program Files too. So I thought I must be in the right place and edited that file, changed name and nothing happened. I eventually found AppData/Roaming after someone upthread mentioned that’s where the Profile folder should be and it worked. Just mentioning in case someone got the same problem.
Going to add the sniny new tweaks now. Thank you, Owlmirror, you saver of blog experience!
Sili says
To my fellow members of the Pharyngulistas with Daddy Issues club: a fumetti.
Le Havre en Chêne says
Caine:
Le Havre en Chêne says
Ugh, blockquote fail. Should read:
Caine:
But surely once you remove all PZed’s sockpuppets and paid commenters, it’d be a piece of cake?
Rorschach says
Some rare product placement if I may, just in case Blackford, Coyne, Hale et al want to claim they don’t read me :
The “I do not endorse the abusive and derogatory comments by Abbie Smith and some of her commenters on Rebecca Watson during the course of elevatorgate” thread
Caine, lichieres pautonnier says
Miranda Celeste:
This ^ is just too fucking precious for words, given that it was posted in Abbie’s Monument thread.
:shakes head:
Wowbagger, Madman of Insleyfarne says
Testing – mostly to check which zone is the timestamp set for.
Wowbagger, Madman of Insleyfarne says
Miranda Celeste wrote:
Good grief; the lack of self-awareness is almost at a weapons-grade level. Honestly, this whole train-wreck is just getting more and more surreal by the day.
Caine, lichieres pautonnier says
SC, from Ophelia’s thread:
♥ I will be using this, frequently.
Sili says
1 Min, 18 Secs
Yay!
–o–
30% discount on discontinued cupboards in Ikea.
Yay!
Caine, lichieres pautonnier says
Cath:
Just read you. You were fantastically clear. I doubt it will help, but you never know…
Bluharmony/Gender Traitor is making me want to slap a…person.
PZ Myers says
More suggestions for your personal CSS, until the modifications to my site’s CSS go through:
Add this to get the drop cap I put at the start of each post:
p.lead:first-letter {
font-size: 250%;
text-shadow: #aaa 4px 4px;
line-height: 1.0;
margin: 2px 3px 0px -2px;
float: left;
}
To restore the lovely little octopus I put in the bottom right corner of each post, use this:
div.postmeta {font-size: 14px !important; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.75 !important; height: 60px !important; background: url(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2011/08/brcorner.gif) 100% 100% no-repeat;}
div.readmorecontent {font-size: 14px; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.75 !important; height: 60px; background: url(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2011/08/brcorner.gif) 100% 100% no-repeat; text-shadow: #fff 3px 3px;}
I detest all those blue bars over everything in the sidebars. Get rid of them with this:
div.sidebar h2 {background: #fff !important; color: #333 !important; text-shadow: #ddd 3px 3px;}
'Tis Himself, OM says
Test of the revised, new and improved, with extra something-or-other, .css file:
'Tis Himself, OM says
No, the class=”creationist” gumby doesn’t work.
Caine, lichieres pautonnier says
PZ, thank you! I’ve missed that snazzy little octopus.
Caine, lichieres pautonnier says
Am I the only one having difficulty loading TET? If I post a comment, it’s quick enough, but if I just reload it, it hangs and hangs and hangs and hangs…you get the idea.
Cath the Canberra Cook says
Is somebody collecting the canonical css in the wiki? I’d volunteer but I need to go to bed now. G’night, all!
PZ Myers says
Here’s the CSS I’m using, that’s supposed to be installed someday:
@-moz-document domain(freethoughtblogs.com) {
.commentlist li {list-style: decimal outside none !important;}
img.post_thumbnail {background: #fff !important; border: thin solid #fff; float: right !important}
h2.title {
font-weight: bold !important;
font-size: 18px !important;
text-shadow: #ddd 3px 3px !important;
padding: 0.5em 2px 0.5em 2px !important;
}
div.sidebar h2 {background: #fff !important; color: #333 !important; text-shadow: #ddd 3px 3px;}
div.postcont {font-size: 14px !important; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.75 !important;}
li.comment.even {background: #eee; !important}
div.comment-author.vcard {font-weight: bold; display: inline; width: 500 px; background: #eef;}
div.comment-meta {text-align: right !important; background: #eef !important;}
div.postmeta {font-size: 14px !important; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.75 !important; height: 60px !important; background: url(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2011/08/brcorner.gif) 100% 100% no-repeat;}
div.readmorecontent {font-size: 14px; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.75 !important; height: 60px; background: url(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2011/08/brcorner.gif) 100% 100% no-repeat; text-shadow: #fff 3px 3px;}
p {font-size: 14px !important; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.75 !important;}
p.profile {font-size: 12px !important; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Sans-serif !important}
p.lead:first-letter {
font-size: 250%;
text-shadow: #aaa 4px 4px;
line-height: 1.0;
margin: 2px 3px 0px -2px;
float: left;
}
blockquote {margin: 0 12px 18px; padding-left: 12px !important; padding-right: 12px !important; color: #111 !important; border-left: 3px solid #ddd; font-size: 13px; font-family: Georgia, “Times New Roman”, Times, serif !important; line-height: 1.5 !important; font-style: normal !important; color: #000;}
blockquote.jerk {margin: 0 12px 18px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; border-left: 1px solid #fff; background: #fff url(http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/jerk.gif) 0 0 no-repeat scroll;}
blockquote.creationist {background: url(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2011/08/tiny_gumby_trans.gif) 0 0 no-repeat; font-family: “Comic Sans MS” !important }
blockquote.creationist p {font-family: “Comic Sans MS” !important}
div.commentNumber {float: right; font-size: 15px; padding: 6px; margin-left: 8px; border: thin solid #999; color: #555;}
.captionedfigure {
font-size: 11px;
text-align: center;
margin: 8px 8px 8px 8px;
padding: 4px;
border: 1px solid #ccc;
}
.bypostauthor { background: #DBD9D9 !important; border-top: 1px solid #999 !important; border-bottom: 1px solid #999 !important; }
}
Rorschach says
Run this server-side, PZ, much easier than 5000 commenters all tweaking their css.files……
Matt Penfold says
Is anyone else having problems accessing Butterflies & Wheels at the moment (13:05 GMT) ?
Philip Legge says
Thanks for the latest temporary CSS fixes. I’m also finding it hard to get the thread to load the comments (and at 521 as I currently read it, we’re not yet pushing the Scienceblogs limit of 666 posts, here). By the way PZ, I suppose you do know that throwaway comment on the dog whistle thread will almost certainly be taken against you and misinterpreted without any hint of charity or irony?
theophontes says
@ Caine, lichieres pautonnier #513
That is a strange one. She claims to be an “equalist feminist”. To me that is a contradictio in terminis. She will defend a form of feminism from the very worst of trolling and even suggest that there is still work to do. And then essentially undermines it all by pandering to the balmy equalists who are denying that there is discrimination against women.
Pretending that we are in a post-discriminatory world is just a way to set current iniquities in stone. It is a very old ruse.
(I feel tired just thinking about the craziness over there.)
Rorschach says
Yep. Can’t get there atm.
PZ Myers says
I want to put it server side. We’re waiting for more important things to be done.
I’ve also asked for a more permanent solution than have to mail stuff to the TechGuy and asking him to install it for me. I WANT ACCESS TO THE CODE! I WANT THE POWER!
theophontes says
@ Matt Penfold #522
I got timed out.
Matt Penfold says
Thanks everyone. Let’s hope B&W being down is just a technical glitch rather than as the result of anyone attempting to shut up Ophelia. She has been making some enemies of late :)
llewelly says
Benjamin “van Driessen” Geiger | 7 August 2011 at 12:47 am :
Friend in question started shooting rockets about 2 years ago, with an initial success rate of about 20%, which increased to about 75%. Divide by two for small rockets.
Small rockets are usually much more difficult, but (a) sometimes people put vmax motors in the high power rockets, which burn all their fuel as quickly as possible, resulting in really fast acceleration, (b) high power rockets are more likely to be customized or scratch built, are built from a wider variety of kits, and a much wider variety of motors, so there is more variation in the timing.
For the time between the rocket’s first movement, and the rocket leaving the Field of view, my friend and I have in a few cases looked up the newtons, divided by the mass, integrated over the height of the frame at the estimated viewing distance, and gotten much smaller numbers, albeit neglecting air resistance. But he doesn’t wait for the rocket to start moving; he times it based on the countdown, and seeing the initial puff of smoke from the igniter. There is a delay between when the igniter puffs, and when the motor starts providing thrust. (If there is visible flame, it’s too late.) That makes it a matter having precise reflexes, rather than impossibly fast reflexes.
We watch all our launches from events at a temporary range, set up by the Utah Rocket club, according to NAR safety regulations, and the first row of launchers is designed for rockets with up to G motors, so nobody is within 6 feet of the launch.
I think with a C you’d have nearly twice as long between the igniter puffing out and when the motor actually starts providing thrust.
Caine, lichieres pautonnier says
Theophontes:
Oh no, not at B&W. There, she was going on about “equity feminists”. Not that I have the slightest idea of what that means.
The rest of her shtick was as thus: “you people are saying much nastier things than anyone at erv, oh yes you are! They’re just using epithets which have lost their meaning/power.” Lather, rinse, repeat many a time, then “I’ve been depressed my whole life and you’re mean! You just don’t know how much this sort of horrible stuff hurts meeeeee! Meanies! I’m going back to erv, where I’m loved!”
Oy.
theophontes says
@ Caine, lichieres pautonnier #530
The only thing that scans is “equity = equalist”, the idea is that we are living the ideal. Their belief appears to be that, currently, all people are equal. There is a level social playing field without (I kid you not) any privilege or discrimination. Arguing against them really is a mindfuck.
I tried to point out further that offensive language that supports the inequalities of the status quo is significantly more offensive than offensive language that is harnessed to create equality. Apparently I am a ignorant n00b PZ bot.
I cannot say that I am yet as eloquent as many of the regulars but, bloody hell, I do not think they are arguing in good faith.
I keep hoping they are going to sober up… ;(
drbunsen le savant fou says
And the barman says, “We don’t serve your kind in here.”
Lynna, OM says
The LDS Church is earning some more bad PR in connection with the Boy Scout troops it sponsors.
With the LDS Church’s record of killing Boy Scouts in preventable accidents, I would think that people would hesitate to donate.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home2/52319345-183/utah-council-scouts-lds.html.csp
drbunsen le savant fou says
Two tachyons walk into a bar.
Sili says
Calling (((Ogvorbis))):
keep an eye out fer th’ switch engine
triskelethecat says
Well I’ve missed so much of TET that I may just have to start from here and forget the rest. Hope everyone is well! Life has been hectic here.
Sili says
Can’t you just Owlmirror nicely? He seems to have a nack for worming his way into the guts of these places.
Dhorvath, OM says
I see what you did there Dr.
Lynna, OM says
In the Readers Comments section beneath the article about funding for Boy Scouts, some readers have also documented the ways in which the LDS Church uses the scout troops as a proselytizing tool:
And there’s this all-too-typical defense from a pro-LDS-troops commenter:
drbunsen le savant fou says
Meanwhile, I am glad to see ERV citing important cultural work in defense of her stance on
sweary wordsslurs.Owait, I mean South Park.
Dhorvath, OM says
That’s the kind of men we could do without. Ick.
drbunsen le savant fou says
Wait, what? I thought it was the “fewer dead children” activists? And not directed at the BSA in particular.
Oh, right, logic. Sorry, as you were.
Dhorvath, OM says
DrBunsen,
That explains a lot.
Sili says
So the boy scouts are teaching kids to be Macho, macho men?
Sili says
Ooops – better link.
'Tis Himself, OM says
When I was in the Boy Sprouts ever so long ago, my troop was sponsored by a Presbyterian church. We never saw the pastor who apparently was busy doing whatever busy pastors do to keep busy. We saw his wife a lot, because her boys were in the troop. There was no proselytizing, no prayers, and no pressure to even appear religious.
But I’m sure the Mormons have managed to make the Boy Scouts part of their church rather than an organization for boys.
Old joke from my military days: What’s the difference between the Navy and the Boy Scouts? The Boy Scouts have adult supervision.
opposablethumbs, que le pouce enragé mette les pouces says
Nice one drbunsen.
btw,
it was pleasant to see the vote at onenewsnow (the American Patriarchy News thread) gradually swing to 77% “No”, but it’s recently started swinging back a little – just in case anyone has an idle moment ….
Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe says
it’s libertarian feminism: equality under the law + genderblindness = equality of the sexes. Because as we all know, there’s no such thing as society.
Basically, these guys are fighting the symptoms instead of the disease, and are complaining that some of us prefer to get at the root of the problem instead of only dealing with the worst symptoms.
Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe says
wait, what did I miss?
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Jadehawk:
Kamaka’s #439. He’ll be heading to our place on the 30th and we’re going to the Dinosaur museum in Dickinson (back roads) on the 31st.
'Tis Himself, OM says
We’re all invited to Caine’s house on the 30th. If you can, help out by bringing a sixpack of good beer or a hindquarter of beef or something like that. Me, I’m bringing potato salad.
Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe says
oh, fun. if that weren’t in the middle of the week during the schoolyear, I’d totally invite myself
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
‘Tis:
A favourite, yum!
Tethys says
Good morning thread! I see you’re busy being mean again?
Hooray! I hope I haven’t missed the fun.
Trolls are severely logic impaired, and don’t seem to realize that their poor arguments are the cause of their being bashed.
It’s so obvious that the horde is full of mean vicious people who spend their days teaching perfect strangers how to fix their css code, and sharing curry recipes.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Jadehawk:
You’d be more than welcome. You know you can show up here anytime. :) It has to be the middle of the week, because both Mister and Kamaka work weekends.
Tethys says
Caine
Is Kamaka traveling to you via motorcycle? I could almost make it to you in 7 hours, but I am starting from the cities. (cruise control set to 80mph)
It seems like he should be able to make the drive in 4 or 5 hours.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Tethys:
I don’t think so. He’s coming from Grand Forks, but will be able to leave early, figures 6, 7 hours on the road. We’re in Almont.
If you want to come, feel free! We have room for you. :)
Bill Dauphin, avec fromage says
llewelly:
No way I’m going to catch up with TET, either, but…
Wait, there’s another rocket nut in the Horde?!? Actually, I can only fairly refer to myself as a once-and-future rocket nut, since I’ve been mostly on hiatus from the hobby for the last several years. I’m determined to change that this year (i.e., the NAR year, which effectively runs from NARAM, in late July/early August, to the next NARAM).
I have little to add to your byplay with Benjamin about rocket photography, except to note that it’s not size per se that matters, but acceleration, which in turn depends on thrust-to-weight: You can get a fairly slow liftoff with even small rockets (and neck-snappingly quick liftoffs with even fairly large ones), depending on weight and power/thrust curve.
‘Tis:
This was also my experience with scouting (right down to the fact that my troop was sponsored by the local Presbyterian church!). However…
…no proselytizing from the sponsoring church, but IIRC Scouting itself included a fair amount of presumed religiosity: Invocations and benedictions at events, grace at meals, even (again, IIRC) a badge called “God and Country.” It never bothered me at the time, because I hadn’t yet begun to question the ubiquity of religion, but looking back….
drbunsen le savant fou says
-_-
*shakes fist at Pacific Ocean*
Tethys says
Reading the dog whistle thread.
Dr. Bunsen and Jadehawk are just so awesome! (others too I’m sure but I haven’t read that far yet)
Audley Z. Darkheart OM, purveyor of candy and lies says
Tethys:
I know, right? It’s shocking how brutal those recipes are. ;)
drbunsen le savant fou says
Let’s not even get into the paramilitary origins of Scouting. Baden-Powell? Siege of Mafeking anyone?
drbunsen le savant fou says
Aw, thanks Tethys :) I’m such a horribubble meanie, I know.
RemembersABeach says
Re: Boy Scouts.
My son is a Cub Scout in a pack sponsored by the local Lutheran Church. Not much proselytizing, just a quick and easily ignored prayer before the annual banquet. However, every year, as part of the advancement requirements, they have to complete a faith requirement. I have simply interpreted “faith tradition” to mean the set of ethics I am trying to teach him, and “faith leader” to mean me. I’m not sure what will happen if he continues to Boy Scouts.
Classical Cipher says
Hee. :)
Tethys says
Audley
Well, Caine did post one that has 40 bird chilies as the first ingredient. I think that one would brutalize my taste buds.
Bunsen, LOLing at your latest comment. What is wrong with these people? My great-grandmother would have ripped blu up and down for valuing herself based on her appearance, and she died back in the 70s. I was thinking that there has been a lot of progress since that time. I was wrong. :(
Richard Austin says
Random note to fellow horde who visit L.A.: if you like seafood and don’t like fancy restaurants, you have to get to the Paradise Cafe at (appropriately) Paradise Cove in Malibu. It just basic good seafood. It’s apparently also being run by the guy who used to run Gladstones before SBC screwed it up (though they may be claiming a do-over and putting it all back (and no, I don’t expect anyone to know what Gladstones is either; let me just say it’s where Sunset meets PCH*, and for decades it was famous locally)).
… I think I just did a footnote in a double-parenthetical. Don’t tell any of the people I edit for that I did that.
Re: rockets
I had a model rocket set once. It got fired once. I hit a bird (don’t ask me how); I think it was a pigeon. We buried it. I was about 6. I no longer have a model rocket set.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Went this sandwich shop to pick up lunch for Mrs. BDC and I. Was wearing my “><a href="http://www.bustedtees.com/jesushatestheyankees/?jadid=14836822533&jk=jesus%20hates%20the%20yankees&js=1&jmt=1_b_&jp=&jkId=8a8ae4e7313b3248013140f1d26e4009&jt=1&jsid=25715&gclid=CKTsgMXgvaoCFUiW7QodABnj7AJesus hates the Yankees t-shirt. Admittedly not a great t-shirt but it was on top.
Let’s just say that It didn’t go over well with a lady behind the counter.
First comment: That shirt is horrible
My response: Oh it’s terrible (mocking voice)
Second comment (while she’s helping a different customer mind you and very agitated): Jesus may hate the Yankees but God hates Ugly.
response: I think your customer is waiting. God hates bad service
Third comment: I hope you’re proud of yourself
response: I hope you’re proud of yourself making a scene here over a t-shirt. Good job oh wizened defender of the faith. You’ve put me in my place. Now get back to making that shrimp salad sandwich. Uh oh shrimp?
I think that is still flying far over her head.
Not sure I’ll be going back there again. Which is a shame. Good sandwiches.
drbunsen le savant fou says
Well, I’m inclined to think blu is very young and somewhat sheltered, and new to the internet … but I know plenty of people by that description who aren’t clueless dingbats, so who knows.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
botched that tag
Went this sandwich shop to pick up lunch for Mrs. BDC and I. Was wearing my Jesus hates the Yankees t-shirt. Admittedly not a great t-shirt but it was on top.
drbunsen le savant fou says
Really? I thought Yankees fans would get upset about that shirt, moreso than Jesus fans.
myeck waters says
The tagging may have looked bad but the link worked, so you’ve got that going for you.
Apparently some employees haven’t been given The Talk about not hassling customers.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Maybe she was both. Though I thought the people that owned that place were from Boston.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Rev. BDC:
I admire your restraint, because did she ever leave the door wide fuckin’ open there.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Yeah in days ago I would have pounced but I figured I’d address her words and not her looks.
drbunsen le savant fou says
Heee. I like the Chimp Guevara teeshirt.
drbunsen le savant fou says
… do you suppose she thought “Yankees” referred to all Americans, not the baseball team?
I mean, it’s clear we’re not dealing with the sharpest crayon in the knife cupboard here.
Sili says
Is it still possible to be both a) young and b) new to the Internet?
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Rev. BDC:
I was thinking more in terms of ugly personality or spirit, if you will. Taking offense, making Poofdaddy threats, proselytizing, all that, it’s ugly.
I will confess, though, to having a TV clip pop up in my head. A cop stops a car, walks up to the driver side with his ticket book out, explains the driver was speeding and starts to write the ticket.
Driver: I thought you didn’t give pretty girls tickets.
Cop: [quiet for a moment, goes back to writing ticket] You thought we didn’t give pretty girls tickets?
Cop waits a perfect beat, then, while still writing the ticket, says “You’re right. We don’t.”
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
No. In my experience more Americans don’t think of Americans as a whole as Yankees. Just people from the North East of the US.
So it’s possible she thought it meant Northerners, but I’m pretty sure she was more upset about Jesus and not about the Yankees.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
ahh right
ha!
drbunsen le savant fou says
Oh snap!
feralboy12, der Ken-Puppe Sie außerhalb in 1983 verlassen says
More than one, evidently.
It’s been about ten years since I launched anything, but rocketry was part of my life for a couple of decades. My first project involved a frog astronaut (named Yuri) who flew twice and was returned safely to earth, kept under observation for a week or so, then released into the wild. Question the ethics all you want (it was 1983, I was much younger then), but I’ve been to some big events and talked to other rocketeers and damn near everybody had a small animal story. The only one I ever heard with a happy ending was mine (thanks to extensive testing and multiple redundant safety features).
My last launch was a night shot from the bottom of a 300-foot deep volcanic crater in central Oregon while friends watched from the rim. I also pulled off a couple of two-stage night launches.
Whoosh. I love rockets.
Le Havre en Chêne - socialiste rapide says
Despite the fact that every time she wears a cross around her neck, she’s depicting Jesus herself – I’m sure the Bible says something about graven images…
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
I found the clip! It was running a stop sign, damn it. I thought you didn’t give pretty girls tickets.
broboxley OT says
have a pork loin soaking in
equal parts honey and yellow mustard
tblspoon cider vinegar
dill weed
texas pete to taste(around here lots)
gonna fire up the bbq after the baseball game
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Don’t fuck with the Jesus
Psych-Oh says
Oooooooo, recipes! And right on time!
Rev. BDC – I am finally thanking you for recommending the “Lees Brothers” cookbooks. The recipes are just fantastic. The macaroni and cheese recipe is the best I’ve ever made- and it is now heavily in the rotation of our family meals. I use Mostaccioli instead of elbows, though.
cannabinaceae says
Hi Thread. Somehow I’ve gotten out of the habit of posting inane beer related comments here. Maybe in a few more days/weeks, who knows?
Any advice on getting an avatar working here? I sought to use Gravatar, which claimed that having a WordPress login also grants Gravatar login. However, even though my login has trappings of WordPress, Gravatar does not recognize me.
And I went to all the effort to generate a cute avatar.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
cannabinaceae, your FtB login is not the same as a wordpress login. If your FtB login doesn’t work with gravatar.com, go to wordpress.com and register (user name does not matter, won’t affect anything here), just be sure to use the same email address you used with FtB. Once that’s done, go to gravatar.com and sign in.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Nice Pycho-oh. That Mac and Cheese is good.
Glad you’re enjoying
Richard Austin says
Wow, half an hour and no post? You guys are slacking. Or something borked again.
As a remedy, I present: this is just wrong (but I love the “toot toot”)
Tethys says
Caine
Extending a barely horde member an invitation to your home? You big meanie!!! (aww, I’m touched!) If finances and circumstance make it possible, I will be there with bells on. Odds are not good that the finances part will allow it.
My confusion over Kamakas estimated drive time though, is due to the fact that I can cross the entire state of Minnesota and half of North Dakota in 6 or 7 hours. I can’t imagine any route from Grand Forks to Altmont taking more than 4 to 5.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Richard Austin:
I’m exhausted, haven’t slept since Friday night. S’okay though, because I need to be early, early, early to sleep tonight. Fucking hospital appt at 10:00 effing a.m. Have to leave home by 8:45, so have to be up at stupid fucking 7:15.
:grumbles and cusses more:
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Tethys:
That would be great! If it turns out you can make it, you can locate my email address at my Zenfolio. Drop an email and I’ll make sure you can find us okay!
As for Kamaka’s route, you’re going to have to wait until he shows up and ask him, I’ve never been to Grand Forks. :D
Classical Cipher says
Here I am! I met with my classmate this morning to go over translations. That part went as well as could be hoped – I’m usually pretty good when I have something clear to focus on and discuss. I just didn’t like the awkward part at the end where I wasn’t sure whether I was supposed to leave or stay there and study. (After a little bit he said he was going to lunch so I figured that meant I should leave, but I still don’t think I handled that whole thing quite the way I was supposed to.) Then I got a little lost afterward, which was also not good. I guess it’s nice that I’ve gotten something done already today, but I’m feeling a little frustrated and disconcerted. Oh well. Time for lunch, then review, then… et cetera…
Wish I could make it to Chez Caine with the rest of you! That would be neat. And then you fascinating people could carry the conversation, and I wouldn’t have to figure out when I was supposed to leave… Sigh.
Richard Austin says
Caine:
Ack. Not good. I doubt you could use my get-to-sleep-early method (which involves a nice warm cup of kona coffee; yes, coffee puts me to sleep). Still related to the surgery, or just normal “can’t sleep clowns’ll eat me” thing?
Is this more stabbity hospital, or a “make sure you haven’t mutated and grew it back” kind of thing?
Richard Austin says
Cipher:
Baby steps. Take what you can handle.
I find it’s usually best to have an excuse to use at the end of something. Like, after the main stuff was done: “Okay, well, unless you want to keep working on something else, I probably ought to get back.”
It’s a polite way to make it unambiguous, since I often have the same kind of trouble reading people in such situations.
Jessa says
More CSS goodness:
If you want the entire comment header (including the permalink) to have that light blue background like on Sb while still keeping the separator, replace your line that starts with .comment-meta with the following:
.comment-meta { background: #eef !important; border-bottom: 1px solid #bbbbbb !important; }
Patricia, OM says
Sheesh, Naughty Marvin has been working on trying to reset the code all morning with no success. I’m afraid he’s going to tear out his beard if it stays so frustrating. *she whined*
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Classical Cipher:
I wish you could too! And no, you wouldn’t have to figure out when to leave, you could stay as long as you wished. We even have rooms so you could have a ‘room of your own’ to retreat to at any time, even while conversation was going on. We’re pretty casual and happily anti-social here. You can hang or wander off, no questions. Well, except maybe “want a beer?” and “you having some of this spaghetti?”
Richard:
A couple of oxy c’s will take care of getting to sleep early. I’m a nightowl, I was ready to sleep at my usual time, around 5 a.m. If I did that, though, I’d be up all Sunday night, yada, yada, yada.
Find out about my anemia, get a cat scan of the pancreas (hopefully), have about all my blood drawn, hopefully avoid an endoscopy, all that. Bleargh.
Nerd of Redhead says
Patricia, I can give Naughty some special grog to mellow him out. Let me know if you need it.
Caine
Teach the Redhead how it can be done. She requires three hours–if I’m lucky.
Owlmirror says
@Patricia:
In Firefox, when you got to the menu and click on
“Help” → “Troubleshooting Information” → “Open Containing Folder”
What happens?
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Nerd:
Standard Redhead temper and stubborness* is my trick. I *refuse* to get up three hours beforehand when I should be sleeping!
*These all differ from one Redhead to another, except in intensity.
Patricia, OM says
Owlmirror – OK if you are going to have the patience to try, I’ll go over & do the trick.
KG says
No way I’ll be able to catch up with TET, so:
1)Thanks to those who sent congratulations to my son.
2)Commiserations to those unwell andor awaiting medical appointments.
3) Good to see the new Pharyngula up and running!
triskelethecat says
trying again to post.
Patricia, OM says
OwlMirror – I get a bunch of folders to choose from.
Owlmirror says
Is one of them called “chrome”?
Patricia, OM says
Yes! There is a Chrome.
Nerd of Redhead says
*SIGH*
Owlmirror says
OK. Open that folder. What files are in there (if any)?
Nerd of Redhead says
Dang, I always love it when the wind swings around to come off the lake. At couple of minutes ago there was a 14 degree F difference between the reporting weather station near the lake, and the Waukegan airport (official for the area), which is further inland. Now it’s down to 11 degrees as the cool air moves inland.
Patricia, OM says
Owlmirror –
userChrome-example.css
Cascading Style Sheet Document
2KB
userContent-example.css
Cascading Style Sheet Document
1KB
OK, no laughing by you lurkers about the size of my machine. Thank you.
sandiseattle, confused by them says
So this temp service/employment agency I got wrapped up with is sending me to a job interview on a Sunday. Don’t know if that is good or bad.
Nerd of Redhead says
Can you work at least one day on weekends? Sounds like that will be the case.
sandiseattle, confused by them says
@Nerd: my ‘case worker’ didn’t give me alot of details, but it sounds like its either outside sales or a mall kiosk. With my Ford POS car there’s no way I can do outside sales, but I think I could handle a workday at a kiosk. Really hoping this isn’t all a waste of my time.
Owlmirror says
OK, copy
userContent-example.css
to a new file.
Windows usually renames copies to something like
Copy of userContent-example.css
Rename that file to be:
userContent.css
Bill Dauphin, avec fromage says
Richard Austin:
I think it’s safe for you to go back to the rocket field: You could spend the rest of your life earnestly trying to repeat that event, and there’s very little chance you’d succeed; the odds of having it happen again by chance are infinitesimal.
Nerd of Redhead says
*Tentacles crossed for mall kiosk.*
Richard Austin says
Bill:
It was more the trauma of the event, and the objection of my mother at the time :)
I like watching big things go “whump-foosh-bang”, so I could probably get back into it.
drbunsen le savant fou says
I loved the story of Yuri the cosmo-frog making it back to earth safe and sound, feralboy12 :)
Patricia, OM says
OK, I have that done.
(Can’t hardly believe I’ve gotten this far, Yeh!)
chigau () says
Owlmirror
When you finish that tutorial…
In your #469 you provided some code to make PZ’s comments stand out.
Is it possible to do the same for other commenters?
Can I add custom colours for commentors as I choose?
(Why does my spell-check not like commenters or commentors?)
'Tis Himself, OM says
In my case, the word is sailing.
drbunsen le savant fou says
Speaking of rocketry, how about an amateur manned space program? http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/
.
.
… manned?
Owlmirror says
@Patricia: OK, now right-click on
userContent.css
, and see if the menu contains “Open with Notepad”. If it does, choose that.If not, open Notepad, and drag
userContent.css
to the Notepad window, and it should open it.Patricia, OM says
OK, notepad is opened.
*Thanks everyone for your patience*
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
I just realized – I can stand up straight. Yay!
Owlmirror says
It depends on whether they’re registered or not. Or at least, it can be done easily if they’re registered; it might be possible to do it if they aren’t, but I am not sure how.
Every registered user has a class added to their comment that looks like “
comment-author-XXXXXX
“, where “XXXXXX
” will be the name they registered with. You for example, have “comment-author-kiyaroru
“; Caine has “comment-author-caine
“.You could easily add a line to the css file saying:
.comment-author-XXXXXX {background: colour}
To make them stand out.
It occurs to me that you could also use
.comment-author-XXXXXX {background: black}
As a cheapass killfile.
I actually tried doing
{display: none}
, for an even more thorough killfiling, but that was a little too much — it removed the comment so thoroughly that the line numbers did not show either, messing up the comment count.Owlmirror says
@Patricia: OK, select and delete all of the text currently in there.
Then copy everything between the “=====” below, and paste it into the notepad, and save it.
Then restart Firefox.
=====
@-moz-document domain(freethoughtblogs.com) {
blockquote { color:black !important; font-style:normal !important }
.entry { font-family: serif !important; font-size: 16px !important; text-align:left !important; }
.comment { font-family: serif !important; font-size: 16px !important; text-align:left !important; }
.comment { background-color: #f2f2f2 }
.odd { background-color: #ffffff; }
.avatar { float: right; }
.comment-author { font-weight:bold !important; background: #eef; }
.comment-meta { border-bottom: 1px solid #bbbbbb !important }
.commentlist li { list-style: decimal outside none !important }
}
=====
Richard Austin says
Caine @629:
I stand alone,
Caught somewhere between the trinity of yesterday,
Today, and tomorrow.
I stand alone
Not because I must, nor because I choose,
But merely because I do.
I stand alone
As I always have, as I always will, and it doesn’t bother me
That much anymore.
I stand alone
In all my battles, but I’ll succeed because I know:
At least I stand.
Bill Dauphin, avec fromage says
drbunsen:
Crewed</GenderNeutral>
And, as cool as what Copenhagen Suborbitals is doing, [a] their “spacecraft” didn’t get anywhere near space and [b] if you take a look at the post-recovery photos, I think you’ll conclude you wouldn’t have wanted to be the crew!
I think it would be possible to launch a human (though not to anywhere near space) using hobby-rocketry technology and have a 50/50 chance of recovering said human alive (best method, it seems to me, would be to have the “crew” come down independently of the rocket, using a parachute of the sort BASE jumpers employ). But given how near real space tourism is to the horizon, what would be the payoff for all that risk?
adrianco says
Hello everyone, I volunteered to help with performance testing and tuning the new server, and we are doing some testing over the next few hours, which will include creating some artificial load using some tools and help from http://soasta.com who do web site testing.
The idea is to find out how much spare capacity it has, not to make it so slow it’s unusable, so please comment here if you see any ill effects.
Nerd of Redhead says
Like me and when I had my appendix out, almost 50 years ago. A significant moment. Enjoy, and show your physicians/surgeons.
Richard Austin says
adrianco:
Alright, so you’re telling us not to start any new MRA wars, then? Cuz that’ll have the same effect, and it’s free…
Well, monetarily speaking. I don’t know that we can afford to put certain people through that again…
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Nerd:
It really is. Rather amazing that you can lose that in such a short span of time. Wow, it is great, standing straight.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Richard:
:Gives Richard the hairy eyeball:
Owlmirror says
Slight correction:
.comment-author-XXXXXX {color:black !important; background: black}
It turns out that comment text is a very dark gray.
Also: The big list of color names.
http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_colornames.asp
Richard Austin says
adrianco:
Or, *glances at Caine* you can just continue with the normal testing. Yeah, let’s do it that way instead. I think it’s safer.
*tries to swallow; can’t, for some reason*
So, how ’bout that orange goo?
adrianco says
So we just ran a bunch of loads of TET and it got busier but seemed to be doing fine, so we’ll crank it a bit higher now…
cicely says
More Madcap MRSA Merriment.
:( :( :(
At least, this time, there’s practically a good chance that hospital admission and subsequent surgery won’t be required.
–
I hope he didn’t fall prey to the peas.
–
So, you think he’s been kidnapped?
–
Owlmirror says
Correcting myself again:
This utterly kills the text of the comments while leaving the name and line-numbering intact:
.comment-author-XXXXXX p {display: none}
adrianco says
We pushed the server to being fairly busy and have now stopped. I hope it was still loading OK for everyone…
broboxley OT says
Richard Austin on that orange goo
I read on the intarwebs it was Boehner’s tan
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Cicely:
Oh no. I’m so sorry, Cicely. All tentacles crossed for you. ♥
Richard, I’ll be interested in what the orange goo turns out to be. That’s awfully tough on a small village.
Carlie says
Ugh. I just looked at ERV, I guess for shits and giggles (ok, just for the shits, no giggles to be found), and they’re still going strong with whining about PZ and Ophelia and how they’re so mean and stoopid and such. Phil (the one most of us actually thought might be worth something) is making prostitution jokes about him, Abbie is still calling Pharyngula “heavily moderated and censored”, and in general they just can’t stop talking about it all. It’s more than a bit creepy at this point. It’s like a TET, but they have absolutely nothing else to talk about except how much they hate anyone involved with Watson, especially PZ.
Patricia, OM says
Hoooooly cow!
Something worked Owlmirror. I can see Comic Sans & PZ’s Creationist. The avatars have all moved to the right side of the page. But still no numbers on the posts.
That’s actually a small matter I’m sure – but the fact that I got it to do something is huge, and a first for me! Woo-hoo!!!
cicely says
Benjamin, you have my sincere, heart-felt sympathies. My son had a colonoscopy at (I think) twenty-two, because of rectal bleeding (also, I’m assured, not penetration-related). They found no reason for the bleeding, but then, they claimed to find no blood in the stool sample, either, even though it was sitting in a pool of blood that was not apparently generated close to the anus. The problem continued intermittently for a couple of years, culminating in the middle-of-the-night phone call I refered to in a previous Thread.
He was pale enough to portray a vampire, in spite of the generous dollop of yellow/brown skin tones that are his normal coloration. Double-plus ungood.
The surgeon later chided him for not having the problem addressed previously, Son explained the back-story, doctor looked in the hospital’s records…and found the hitherto-unreported record of that colonoscopy. I’m sure Son could have sued, but he was just so relieved to get a diagnosis and treatment that he let it pass. Fortunately, he had medical insurance that covered most of the bills, unlike when he had that colonoscopy in the first place.
–
hotshoe, congratulations on your Paying Employment. May you both be very happy together. :)
–
Psych-Oh says
Adrianco – I couldn’t post for a couple of hours. Now, it seems to be working for me again.
Cicely – Oh no! I hope you can nip it in the bud right away.
adrianco says
I don’t think the testing we did would have stopped anyone posting, it might have made the site a bit slower for a while, anyway its all done now. Thanks to Dan at http://soasta.com for help and tools. They have a free tool for testing web sites, he was showing me how to use it…
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
G’night everyone!
Jessa says
Owlmirror @631:
Do those last few entries on your list need semicolons after the !important ? Maybe that’s why some people aren’t seeing comment numbers?
Just asking. I know just enough about CSS to screw things up.
Owlmirror says
Excellent! Glad to hear it.
The line in the css file that is supposed to show the comments is this one:
.commentlist li { list-style: decimal outside none !important }
Can you double check that it’s there, and has the braces showing properly?
Hm. Maybe the line before it is mangled or missing the closing brace?
Ms. Daisy Cutter says
Patricia: “I think blf is at the International Pea Festival.”
I hope blf is enjoying all the country goodness and green peaness.
Regarding “horribubble” – I tell my cat all the time that she’s “adorabibble.”
Less amusingly – from a Daily Kos diary about AIDS:
Owlmirror says
Hm. Maybe. It’s been working on my machine™, in both Firefox and Chromium, though.
Oh, me too!
Jessa says
Yes, we’re familiar with your shenanigans. ;-)
chigau () says
Owlmirror @630
Yes! Thank you.
That works beautifully!
Can I change the font colour, too?
It occurred to me about a q&d killfile.
drbunsen le savant fou says
Wow Caine! Great news.
You know, it never occurred to me to ask till just now – why didn’t they take the CO2 out again when they were done?
.
Because it’s cool.
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
Must wait until meds kick in. Dammit. If I’m still here by 8:00, kick my ass out, please.
Owlmirror says
<sound style=”raspberry”>Thbbbbt!</sound>
(Use absolute positioning once, and they never ever ever let you forget it…)
Sure. The property “color” changes the text color, just as background changes the background color. Separate properties using semicolons.
.comment-author-XXXXXX {background: colour; color: different_colour}
(Sorry, the standards were written by Americans)
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
drbunsen:
Thank you!
Supposedly, they do. You’re still left with a metric fuckton of it anyway.
chigau () says
Yea! Standing Caine!
Your background shall be … BF3EFF (darkorchid1)!
Owlmirror
You are a god.
cicely says
Huzzah!
–
I feel a bit under the weather, so I’ll leave you all to it. ‘Night, all.
–
Tethys says
Patricia
I had the same problem of no post numbers until I re-checked the css code and removed an extra bracket from the very end.
Caine has to go to sleep when its still light out? You poor thing! Hopefully the meds kick in soon. (3 minutes to bedtime young lady!)
Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe says
(accidentally psted this in the wrong thread)
oh PZ, you do give me the warm fuzzies sometimes!
I stumbled over a forum-post about sexism in atheism over at Nirmukta (Indian Freethinkers); at first I was mortified when the writer said she noticed the male-only composition of the admins of a pharyngula facebook group, and at the sexism that she encountered when she remarked on that. And then PZ swoops in and saves the day: http://nirmukta.net/Thread-The-Glass-Ceiling-in-Atheist-Circles-Few-Women-in-Positions-Of-Power
Tethys says
Oh, and in other news, Ophelia has banned the fairyland troll.
Don’t they read the title of the post before they comment?
Kamaka says
@ Tethys
Oooh, oooh, could you really make it?
C’mon, you have three weeks to plan. A rockhound like you, how could you miss this? http://www.dakotadino.com/
If you would like, I can regail you with stories of monadnocks and exumed peneplains.
Seriously, all you need to worry about is the gas money. I’ll be bringing some food and beverage; if we’re all broke, we can fry eggs and potatoes, roast some weinies and we will all have a fine time.
PS My drive time is based on back roads. 80 on the buzzway? Not this trip. The fucking Interstate is quick but sooo boring in a *Monoculture Hell* kind of way. I want to see the small towns. The birdwatching is way better, too.
Philip Legge says
Good morning Thread. (I know I’m possibly in danger of being portcullised by writing a long comment.) In the past we’ve had a particular type of denialism regarding dictionary atheists, and PZ has often posted on that (my non-existent-gods, some threads from last year!) – there are some spectacularly obtuse ways that people can reason around the issue, for example, by insisting that a particular dictionary is the only legitimate definition, despite the inability of multiple dictionaries to concur with either each other or common usage.
A meme that seems to be going around suggests there’s a similar “dictionary misogyny” issue: if the dictionary definition is taken as meaning “hatred against women” then several strategies intervene to deny a possible association with any particular person or practice:
* first, “hatred against women” is universalised, so that only “hatred against all women” can possibly be regarded as misogynism, and only a person who indeed hates all women can be viewed as a misogynist;
* as a corollary, the hate speech against individual women is supposedly minimised from being harmful, because it is targeted rather than being indiscriminate. The expression of it – and particularly the obsessiveness of dwelling on it for months, along with the deliberately provocative vile language – must surely bring that into question.
* language is regularly deprived of context, nuance, and subtlety in these arguments, so that no words can be viewed as embodying “hatred”, in another attempt to escape the definition. An accusation that such-and-such a quotation is hate speech is thus doomed to fail because the targets will say, but you can’t possibly view these slurs as embodying hate? Isn’t it obvious we’re just kidding or pressing people’s buttons! (Even a full quotation of representative comments with context will be repeatedly denied as containing hatred.)
* lastly, the fact that the targets of the hate speech also include some male allies (like PZ) is likewise a convenient dodge: “we’re not misogynists, because we dislike some men too!” The apparent equal opportunity bigotry does not really avoid the charge that hatred against a certain category of women is viewed as legitimate, and the men who ally themselves with that category can be written off in the same way because of that association.
Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe says
Phillip, I think you’ve probably hit the nail on the head with that one; it also parallels the inane “i’m not a homophobe, i’m not afraid of gays!” meme
Classical Cipher says
WHY IN THE FUCK ARE SO MANY PEOPLE SO STUPID?!
Sorry, I had to get that out of the way.
Back to your regularly scheduled socializing.
Goodnight, Caine! I don’t know if you’re still here, but if you are, go to bed!
I have too much vocabulary to review before Friday :( I can’t even figure out when I’m going to get enough time. Yes, I realize I’m posting on the internet right now and should be reviewing. If it helps, I just finished one chapter’s worth of flashcards and am about to go over the verbs from that chapter again since they seem to have fallen out of my brain somewhere along the way.
Philip Legge says
One gloomy afterthought. As a result, it’s probably not a wise idea to assert that anyone, anywhere, at any time in the whole Rebeccapocalypse disaster is a misogynist or a sexist, or even (less controversially) that while they may not be misogynist or sexist, their actions either have been misogynistic or sexist, or may appear to have been misogynistic or sexist – it’s just too easy to invoke one of the above strategies and beat the rap. It’s also way too easy an accusation to take offence at, in a display of either real outrage (“how dare you call me such-and-such!”) or feigned or mistaken indignation (“how dare you call me such-and-such”, when the criticism was not directly a person, but the idea they had given utterance to).
Caine, Fleur du Mal says
chigau:
Ooooh, pretty!
Geek Superhero!
Tethys:
I’m going, took me 20 minutes to load the frigging thread. :(
Nerd of Redhead says
Yawn, another dictionary fuckwit. *Wakes up the Pullet Patrold™, and heads for the dancing hippo wallow*
Tethys says
@kamaka
Circumstance will have to cooperate too. I do plan to come visit my Grandmas in Bismarck before October. I will try to make that coincide with a pharyngufield-trip if at all possible.
Do take the back roads and meander your way to Caine’s casa. May I suggest Arena Lake for bird watching? (Pelicans!) I’m sure every pothole is full to overflowing. Ducks and various waterfowl will be everywhere!
sandiseattle, disappointed says
Well the interview was a crap-out. Hourly pay plus milage but still outside sales. Too bad my car is in FUBAR mode these days. Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.
Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe says
except that there really isn’t any other way to describe a sexist action. At some point you just kind of have to ignore the literalists, or maybe explain how they got the meaning of the word wrong, and move on. Not using “misogynist” and “sexist” just means we no longer have words to accurately describe thee actions.
Unless you have some other pithy suggestion?
Tethys says
Kamaka,
Apparently it is also called Harriet Lake. Arena is a ghost town now according to the internet.
Kamaka says
@ Tethys
Pelicans are a favorite of mine. What strange creatures.
If you can’t make the dino *Pharyngufield-trip*, (c’mon, you know you want to), we will just have to do it at the next opportunity.
I have no doubt the Grannies will be thrilled to hang out with the flaming atheists.
'Tis Himself, OM says
Phillip Legge #672
You describe a possible problem. However you neglected to provide an answer. Consider the problem and come back to us when you do have an answer.
Until then, your concern is noted.
Philip Legge says
I know, Jadehawk. I won’t falsely say its a “damned if you do/damned if you don’t” dilemma, because I think sexism and misogyny – whether unintended or deliberate – should be pointed out. My gloomy reflection is that invariably through this debâcle, exceedingly few people have taken a valid piece of criticism (and perhaps have felt immediately hurt by self-realisation of owning up to the implications of such views), gone away and thought about the ideas raised, and then returned to say “you know what, you were right to point out that I was being sexist, and I’m sorry that I did it”. It seems like the bulk response has been for a lot of Anonymous Internet Tough Guys™ to never admit having been wrong, to write tens of thousands of words reinforcing their positions, rather than admitting that criticism might have some validity.
PZ Myers says
NEW THREAD!