Men throw acid on us with the intention of injuring or disfiguring us. Men throw acid on our bodies, burn our faces, smash our noses, melt our eyes, and walk away as happy men.
Acid attack is common in Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Afghanistan, Nepal, Cambodia, and a few other countries. Men throw acid on us because men are angry with us for ending relationships and for refusing sexual harassment, sexual exploitation, proposals of marriage, demands for dowry. They throw acid on us for attending schools, for not wearing Islamic veils, for not behaving well, for speaking too much, for laughing loudly.
India
She was 18, a college student. Three of her neighbors sexually harassed her for more than two years and then threw acid on her. Her skin on the skull, face, neck, chest and back were melted away. After nine years of that attack Sonali Mukherjee is now blind in both eyes and partially deaf. Her father spent millions of rupees for her treatment. They have now no money. The attackers got bail from the High Court, continued threatening to kill her. She is now asking the government to help her or allow her to end her life.
Cambodia
The face of Sokreun Mean, who was blinded and disfigured by an acid attack.
Carsten Stormer, a German journalist & photographer said,
“Acid attacks deprive people of more than their looks and sight. Families are torn apart. Husbands leave their wives. Children are separated from their parents. Jobs vanish overnight, turning professionals into beggars. Many victims cannot get through a day without constant assistance, becoming burdens on their families. All bear the mark of the pariah.
“What remains is a traumatized society in which domestic disputes, unhappy love affairs, and professional rivalries are nearly always resolved through violence. Hardly a family without its members lost to the ideological battles of the Khmer Rouge – a curse that is passed on from parents to children. Battery acid is known to be most uncomplicated way of causing lifelong suffering. A dollar will buy you a quart of acid on any street corner. The perpetrators are seldom punished. Their targets become outcasts.”
Pakistan
Fakhra Younus was attacked by her husband Bilal Khar, ex-MPA of the Punjab Assembly and the son of Pakistani Politician Ghulam Mustafa Khar. He threw acid in her face after they split up. Tehmina Durrani, the author of ‘My Feudal Lord’, the former step mother of Bilal Khar tried to help Fakhra. She was sent to Italy for treatment. After having 39 re-constructive surgeries, Fakhra committed suicide.
The stories of the girls, from left to right:
Ten years ago Shahnaz Bibi was burned with acid by a relative due to a familial dispute. She has never undergone plastic surgery. Najaf Sultana is now 16. At the age of five Najaf was burned by her father while she was sleeping. Her father didn’t want to have another girl in the family. Najaf became blind. Shameem Akhter (20) was kidnapped and raped by a gang of men who then threw acid on her 3 years ago. Kanwal Kayum, now 26, was burned with acid one year ago by a man whom she rejected for marriage. Bashiran Bibi was burned at her husband’s house just after her marriage. Nasreen Sharif was a beautiful girl. When she was 14, her cousin poured a bottle of sulphuric acid in her face. He did it because he couldn’t stand boys whistling at her when she crossed the street. Her skin melted away, her hair burned away. She is now blind, she has no ears and she has no sense of smell.
Among others, there is Shaziya Abdulsattar, an eight-year-old girl. Shaziya’s father threw acid on her and her mother Azim last year after the mother refused to sell their two boys to a man in Dubai to use as camel racers.
Bangladesh
It is very easy for a man to get sulphuric acid if he wants to attack a woman he does not like. The country has become a hot spot for acid attacks. A disfigured woman is not able to get married or get a job. She becomes a financial and social burden on her family.
Neela was forced to marry when she was 12 years old. Her husband threw acid on her face when she was 14. He was angry with Neela because her family was unable to give him the dowry money he asked for.
Nepal
Akriti Rai, 22, was attacked by her husband, a Nepali soldier.
Iran
Ameneh Bahrami rejected the offer of having a relationship with Majid Movahedi, a fellow student at the University of Tehran. He then threw a bottle of acid in her face.
Zambia
A man threw acid on a 13-year-old girl’s face to take a revenge. The older sister of the girl said: “You have to grow crocodile skin to clean the wounds of an acid survivor. The worst ordeal was while in the hospital, as the skin kept peeling off. I didn’t realize that the tongue skin was also peeling off. The young girl was pushing something in her mouth. I opened her mouth to see and found that almost the whole tongue had come off. I had to pull it out like you do with a cow and only a little red thing (tongue) remained.’
Nitric acid, sulphuric acid, hydrochloric acid are today’s weapons of choice for criminals who hate women. These acids are easy to buy, easy to hide, easy to carry, and easy to throw. A person who witnessed many acid attacks , said, ‘in a less than a minute the bone under the skin can start to be exposed. If there is enough acid, the bone itself can become a soft mass of non-distinguishable jelly. Internal organs can dissolve. Fingers, noses and ears can melt away like chocolate on a hot day.’
Ethiopia
Twenty-one-year-old woman Kamilat Mehdi’s life was changed forever when a stalker threw sulphuric acid in her face. Ismail, Kamilat’s brother said: “The man who attacked her stalked her for a few years. He gave her a hard time but she didn’t tell the family for fear that something would happen to them. He was always saying he would use a gun on them.” Ultimately the stalker’s weapon of choice was not a gun, but a bottle of acid. He used it on Kamilat and destroyed her entire life in one second.
UK
Her lover did it. Richard Remes threw sulphuric acid on Patricia Lefranc. Her nose and eyelids were melted away, she lost sight in one eye and hearing in one ear, she also lost a finger. She came close to death, as the corrosive substance nearly burned through her heart and lungs.The horrific attack physically and emotionally scarred her for life. What was her crime? She ended her relationship with Richard Remes, a married man.
We are more abused, harassed, exploited, kidnapped, raped, trafficked, murdered by our lovers, husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins, friends, or men we know well than by strangers. Whatever happens to us, we never stop loving men.
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Ingrid EM
July 14, 2012 at 4:19 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yes, the pics are more than horrible. Still, I want to thank you for sharing them. For your constant fearless fight for opressed women all over the globe. I nurture a small hope that the world will one day finally put a stop to this war on women. Unfortunately I don’t think it will happen any time soon. I’ll share this on my Facebook page and see if it manages to stay there.
StevoR
July 15, 2012 at 8:46 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Seconded by me.
Detournement
July 17, 2012 at 12:28 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
also
JannyMaha
May 11, 2013 at 8:33 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
and me
Mohit
July 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Nietzsche said once..God is dead ! After science renaissance Religion is dead ! And now I can feel that Humanity z dead !I am afraid about fate of love !
suzan
December 28, 2012 at 12:14 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Love never dies. As the world waxes cold and people become more evil, rember Yeshau Ha Machiach love us. He died for us and he will soon be here for us. The prophecies in the bible are rapidly being fulfilled. Trust your heart to Him. We will all be changed upon His return in to bodies that are incorruptable. God is so merciful and loving. Hold up your heads because your are so very wonderfully made by The most Holy of Holy’s. Your soul, mind and the love in your heart are waht really counts.
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Will HArt
February 22, 2013 at 11:13 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Unreliable processes of reasoning are largely responsible for this phenomenon. Ask yourself, what could make a person think it’s alright to harm someone like this? The only answer must relate to the idea that the victims “deserved what they got”.
Religious beliefs are part of the problem.
madbull
July 14, 2012 at 5:12 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I feel so helpless sometimes I can’t even stop the patriarchy in my own home. Do we just accept that we live in an insane society and move on ? Or keep fighting a losing battle even as we are villainized for fighting it.
cassmorrison
July 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
How can we just accept we live in an society that devalues women just because our level of devaluation is less? Everyone who works towards calling out patriarchy (and any kind of bigotry) in our personal lives, supports others who are less fortunate and helps move towards a society that doesn’t accept it.
madbull
July 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I’m not suggesting that it is okay, just pondering about the futility of the fight, especially when fought at a personal level,in homes with rigid belief systems and structures that will never change.
Whether its acid attacks, rape, domestic violence or female foeticide, the root cause is the same patriarchy that I often feel I am fighting a losing battle against.
ReductioAdAbsurdum
July 16, 2012 at 12:25 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The root is your religion and entitlements it demands for males. Does these attacks happen in largely secular states? No! These are simply the facts.
Reject the repressive hold your religion has on you, and you may unshackle yourself form the religionist power-structure that views you as cattle.
transnationalfeminist
July 16, 2012 at 5:09 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I find your statement highly problematic. Telling women that their religion oppresses them strips them of agency and perpetuates a false West (secular) vs. East (traditional, religious) dichotomy that further generalizes and hurts women of these religions. Yes, in many cases, practicing sects of many world religions can be patriarchal, but telling all women to reject the religions of their countries decontextualizes the cultural, traditional, and spiritual importance that these religions hold. Practicing religion should be a choice. Do not place yourself, as a secularist, in a patronizing position that tells people that their religion is wrong.
Ysanne
July 16, 2012 at 6:54 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@transnationalfeminist:
I’m sorry to be so blunt about it, but what else if not “wrong” would you call religions that strongly contribute to women’s oppression by their fundamental teachings about the “right” order of the world and people’s place in it? Especially teachings largely based on ideas stemming from an age when people had no idea how lightning is formed and why one gets sick from drinking dirty water.
This is the same line of argument that can justify FGM because it’s a tradition and lots of women support it in the communities where it’s practiced.
No.
There’s nothing feminist or respectful about attributing “spiritual” importance to superstitions and traditions that oppress women.
An argument that actually respects women’s cultural context would have been that rejecting religion makes women in religious patriarchies even more of a target for violence, and thus isn’t a viable option for them. You failed to make it.
OT4BO
July 17, 2012 at 10:31 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
It’s true I’m afraid, religion fundamentally underpins this type of behavior at the level of individual justification and, more importantly, the lack of legal consequences. While women who decline their Muslim status are in far graver danger (the punishment for apostasy is death)It is clearly the sanctification of these ideas that needs to be eroded. Women should have the right to choose their mate freely, and change their mind freely, thus, forcing men to meet women’s standards. Not men forcing woman to accept them on pain of reprisal. Pure insanity.
William Hart
February 22, 2013 at 11:15 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The problem is definitely the religious beliefs. Faith is an unreliable process of reasoning. Religious belief can genuine convince someone that it’s not just “ok” but necessary, to throw acid on someone’s face.
Ben glatt
May 3, 2013 at 8:36 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
To: ReductioAdAbsurdum
“do these attacks happen in largely secular societies, no these are simply the facts.”. I would like to turn your attention to the above article in which at least one of the victims lived and was attacked in the UK. A country that is predominantly secularist “…the British are now a largely irreligious people. Only a minority believe that God exists and almost everyone acknowledges that Britain is becoming an increasingly secular society.” Anthony King, The Telegraph.
I think that you’r argument while it grasps part of the truth falls short when it comes to the extreme violence against woman that is still perpetrated in nations that are predominantly secularist. You say that it is because religion creates a power structure around woman that repress and devalue them. I agree with that sentiment but i think it is important to remember that similar power structures exist in “developed” secular societies. Religious law and the way woman are often treated by it are serious problems but thee problem is much deeper and runs much more broadly then that it is woven into the social and economic fabric of almost every society. I have to say that reducing sexism to a problem of overzealous religiosity is ultimately counterproductive. It allows us in the secular world to smugly look upon it as a problem of the other rather then as a problem within ourselves and the society that has shaped us.
Sincerely: Benjamin
NicholasM_
February 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@Madbull: If your despair stems from the idea that women are alone and unheard in their grief and outrage over these conditions, please know that males do exist who do indeed care very much and who will do their best to arrest the breeding of this kind of violence and this kind of hate, and the conditions that support them,
Jack
July 14, 2012 at 6:03 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yes. I would apologize for my y-chromosome cohort.
Having a dick is no excuse for being one.
What infuriates me is that we know…KNOW…that we can learn to have relationships that are not like this.
Jessy
July 14, 2012 at 6:40 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I agree. It is not fair to generalise. My husband is loving, caring and doting. My son is sweet and angelic and as horrid as these stories are, by using the generalisation ‘men’ they are including my boys in this.
If they really want to go that far, could we not then say it is those ‘mens’ mothers fault? The parents fault? For not teaching a basic respect for fellow humans?
I myself, see this as (for the most part) fueled by religion and ignorance. Not a ‘fault’ that every man has.
madbull
July 14, 2012 at 7:09 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Its not really men but a culture that treats men and women as unequal that results in these values (like entitlement) being imbibed in young boys.
Often I feel men get the short end of the stick to with this set up, they have less fulfilling relationships, they never know what it feels like to have a real companion rather than someone who listens to them out of fear.
We need to stop telling our girls they are delicate pretty princesses and our boys that they are rough and tough soldiers who never cry.
Tim
July 16, 2012 at 10:08 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Amen!
Who Knows?
July 14, 2012 at 8:55 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Generalization? Much to do about nothing in my opinion.
If I or people I know are not willing or capable of these terrible acts of violence against women, or against anyone else for that matter, I see no reason to feel culpable for these acts.
Rather than worry about generalizations, it would be better to consider what our part is in the treatment of our fellow human beings. Certainly in many cultures this kind of behavior would not be accepted and those who would commit these crimes would face severe penalties. Yet these same, civilized cultures still hold at least some of the ideas that are rooted in these archaic belief systems.
For example, Daniel Tosh made a joke about a woman being gang raped and there a quite a few people defending this offensive treatment of a woman. Why is that? If we choose to focus on generalizations, rather than the issue, we’ll never know.
mynameischeese
July 14, 2012 at 6:27 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
To be able to do that, those men have to posses huge amounts of entitlement. In most cases, I bet that entitlement goes unquestioned, and is supported even, by the wider culture.
Mary2
July 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Thank you. I think ‘entitlement’ is a good word here. I was just thinking that I must be very naive – I cannot even conceive how there is any occasion where so totally destroying another person would be ok. But entitlement explains it a little.
Zach
July 14, 2012 at 6:55 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
This is why I am glad to be a man, I never have to deal with such barbaric idiocy. It’s sad that in most of the world being born without a Y chromosome is a curse. Even in the west women’s liberation fell well short of actual equality.
Mike Anderson
July 14, 2012 at 10:11 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
What’s with the title?
Gorbachev
July 14, 2012 at 10:17 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I feel awful at reading this.
I feel worse, because once again, Taslima insults women who suffer in this way and humans in general.
I’m wondering if she’s just a general misanthropist?
Why do we love men if men do this?
You seem to have bought into the general marxist theory that people do not exist as individuals, but exist solely as representatives of classes or masses, and that man A is just as responsible as man B for something.
Inidentally, this kind of attack is essentially a problem of the Muslim world: While other cultures may experience it from time to time, this kind of horror is today largely restricted to Islamic societies.
Just because Muslim men are horrible monsters from time to time doesn’t mean that all human males and all cultures throughout time are as suspect. Please.
Why do women love men? Because individual women and individual men are not the victims and perpetrators in these crimes. They are different people.
mynameischeese
July 15, 2012 at 2:05 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
It’s hilarious that you don’t seem to see any irony in writing this: “You seem to have bought into the general marxist theory that people do not exist as individuals, but exist solely as representatives of classes or masses”
and then follow it with this: “Inidentally, this kind of attack is essentially a problem of the Muslim world”
Right.
And no, this isn’t just a problem in the Muslim world. Even though religions like Islam can perpetuate violence against women by bolstering male entitlement, this kind of violence can occur in any culture that values machismo and sexism.
Taslima Nasreen
July 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
You are right. Acid violence is not just a problem in the Muslim world. I talked about acid victims in India, Nepal, Cambodia, Zambia, UK, none of them are Muslims. Their attackers are not Muslims either.
Fred Salvador
July 17, 2012 at 2:39 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I know of at least 2 such attacks that have happened in the UK. Neither of the men who perpetrated these attacks were Muslims; both were selfish, wicked, evil little men who felt that being rejected by a woman was justification for throwing acid in her face.
If we define an “Islamic” country as one where Islam is either the majority religion under a government that is at least notionally secular, or where Sharia law is used as a system of governance, then five of the nine countries Taslima mentions do not qualify; India (a secular nation where 80% of residents identify their religion as Hinduism), Cambodia (a secular nation where 96% of residents identify their religion as Buddhism), Zambia (a constitutionally Christian nation where 90% of residents identify their religion as Christianity) and Ethiopia (a secular country where 63% of residents identify their religion as Christianity), and the UK, which we’ve already mentioned (a secular nation where 75% of residents identify their religion as Christianity).
This is not a question of “Islam”. It doesn’t just happen in “Islamic” societies. It is a question of men hating women, men feeling they have som right, some privilege, to be obeyed by women and thus are justified in using despicable violence to gain “revenge” when women dare to defy them – and the sooner you and yours can get over this pathetic, privileged, never-suffered-a-day-in-your-life victim complex and pack this denialism away in the Big Box Of Bullshit where it belongs, the sooner we can progress towards adressing this kind of violence against women and the basic misogyny that motivates it.
ko
October 8, 2012 at 5:35 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
hahahaha your ugly
JannyMaha
May 11, 2013 at 8:40 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
this comment was moderated?? the shame.
Faye Kane
August 7, 2012 at 9:54 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Wrong.
In England it is very very rare compared to islam countries like Pakistan, where it is unpunished and an epidemic.
This is because their religion does not value ANY individuals, but forces everyone to obey an angry, make-believe monster-god who hates you if you don’t do disgusting, pointless, bizarre things like wipe your a-ss with your hand.
…and it has to be your LEFT hand or the monster devil/god will get furious.
I’m not making that up. Google it.
The crazy fcck who thought all this “islam” crap up didn’t feel confident with women, so he also told everyone the monster-god says women are unimportant as people and have no rights.
It is not a coincidence that boys raised under this sickness do things like throw acid.
No, not ALL islam people are evil and yes, ALL religions are cancer of the stupidity. They all also cause cruelty and injustice. Acid throwing even happens in India, who’s religion isn’t particularly cruel. But islam is a virulent, vicious, malignant form of the cancer.
The cure isn’t christianity or even tolerance of some “faiths” and condemnation of others. The cure isn’t even even fighting islam per se, or any of their specific screwed-up practices (like acid throwing).
The cure is education about how the universe really works, and training kids that no person is “better” than any other. Stronger or smarter or more talented in this or that, yes. But there is no “better”.
– faye kane homeless brain
Maxim
October 29, 2012 at 8:55 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
your essay is pathetic, knowledgeless, you stupid prick, you dont know nothing about islam or muslims, your just barking in a corner like a tired kicked in the face dog. Research first before using the internet to do your hiccup, ok, idiot
trublue
November 7, 2012 at 7:24 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
another product of Google distance education
Troy
May 10, 2013 at 6:11 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
while acid attacks on women may happen a lot in Muslim majority countries like Bangladesh and Pakistan, it is not really an issue in places like Indonesia and most Arab and Central Asian countries, it seems to be mostly concentrated in South Asian countries (including non Muslim majority India and Nepal), I also think Bangladesh has the death penalty for acid throwers now
Who Knows?
July 15, 2012 at 3:21 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Gorbachev, why do you take Taslima’s posts so personally? Is there some darkness in you that she touches? Is that what irritates you so?
Krasnaya Koshka
July 21, 2012 at 1:58 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Exactly! Why does he not just listen? Tasmina’s hit a sensitive spot with him.
Neil Westlake
July 15, 2012 at 10:09 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Articles like this constitute the real hate crime. This individual, the originator of the piece, has very poor reasoning skills and it carried along on a tide of misandry. People like Nasreen will one day be looked upon very unfavorably as egregious gender ideologues. Some may even end up in Den Haag for crimes against humanity.
The acid throwers are people who are beleaguered by personality disorders that just so happen to be men. The times they are a changin’. We in the MRM are gathering in number at a rate that can only described as exponential. We are men and women who oppose this savage meme. We call on all humanist “feminists” to stand up and join us in our contempt for hateful messages such as this. Our future is one of true equality.
mynameischeese
July 16, 2012 at 12:32 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
What a stupid comment. An article about acid attacks is a worse “crime” than an acid attack? Yeah right, troll.
And then there’s this: “The acid throwers are people who are beleaguered by personality disorders that just so happen to be men.”
Acid attacks are more common in some cultures than in others, so personality disorder alone wouldn’t explain it. Nice try, though.
And your accusing Taslima of being an ideologue…and then following it up with some flashy/cheesy rhetoric about the rising tide of MRAs…that was absolutely LOLtastic, buddy.
edlyn
July 17, 2012 at 11:39 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
i stand up in contempt for your comment. get a cure for your personality disorder
Luna_the_cat
July 18, 2012 at 6:23 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Neil, you are an idiot; and you are truly hateful, for trying to downplay what happens to other people in the world, and for trying to get people to ignore that it is a thing which happens to women.
Get over yourself. Grow up. Stop being so wilfully blind to real harm, just because you want to be able to blow it off as a few deviant individuals, and not a practice which is sanctioned by not being punished in the countries where it happens regularly.
Krasnaya Koshka
July 20, 2012 at 11:42 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Please, please, please, stop commenting here!
You just come off as a humongous asshole and like you’re trying to minimize real women’s suffering because it hurts your feelings! Your feelings, so precious!
Plus, your choice of nym is laughable. (Gorbachev was deeply loved by the Russian people and you show no loveable traits.)
Why can’t you just be quiet? What compels you to speak so much? Because you’re a man and feel you have the right to? Because, OH! That’s not ME!
Get used to it. I’m a lesbian and I have to hear about how “lesbians” think and feel and act, collectively, even though we’re wildly different, every fucking day. I’m not allowed to be some “reasonable port in the storm” so neither are you.
GO AWAY! I’d like to read one Naslima post withOUT your manslaining. Thank you.
Maybe you should open your own blog and blather on there? Yes? You have SO many important things to say, after all.
Krasnaya Koshka
July 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
“T”aslima. Crap, I hate when I typo.
Gorbachev
July 14, 2012 at 10:20 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
This is all very 1980′s separatist culture- war stuff. Weak.
Men are not simply automatons as members of a formless class.
Neither are women.
Women are not “woman”.
There seems to be a lot of crass marxist analysis here.
Crimes like this should be punished. Alas, Islam brooks no criticism, and tolerates grave injustice as a matter of course.
If only there was something that could be done.
Krasnaya Koshka
July 20, 2012 at 11:43 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
UGGGGGGHHHHH! Can you just get your own blog? Who cares what you think?
Janet
July 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Why do we still love men? Because, incidentally, this website has made me love my man all the more because I feel incredibly grateful to have found someone who is protective, kind, loving and would never do anything remotely similar to this.
These acts were not performed by men, especially not the men that we love. They are the acts of childish, entitled, immature, brainless and.. god, I could list a hundred other horrible adjectives.. BOYS. Little boys. If even that. Sub-human would be a good word, probably. Not men, not boys, only creepy little subhumans who should never have seen the light of day and should crawl back under the rocks they came from.
teh_faust
July 17, 2012 at 2:09 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I think it’s a mistake to single out these perpetrators as non-human or not “real” men.
They are just as real as the kind and decent people. (Of which, yes, there are many, too.
They come from human cultures, they come from the same species and sometimes from the same families as the kind and decent people.
Human beings are capable of the most atrocious acts and that’s a fact we need to acknowledge if we want to understand the causes – and it may well make it harder to see the abuse and crime in our own surroundings.
Evil doesn’t wear horns and a cloven hoof just so we can pinpoint it more easily.
Emma
July 15, 2012 at 3:00 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
This is an outraged that should not be allowed, needs to be stopped, and attackers punished severely! This is an absolute outrage! What totally backwards society would permit this to continue unabated and unpunished? SICKENING! CRAZY!
Rabidtreeweasel and her Badger of Honor
July 15, 2012 at 7:14 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
“Our Men,” not Your Men or All Men. I think the context here makes it obvious she is talking specifically about men who throw acid in women’s faces.
Also to the point that these men have parents; yes. These parents are raising children within a patriarchy. While not all men will throw acid in a woman’s face, it is easy to see how the men who would can act more freely in a culture which enables them.
Jayantakumar Das
July 15, 2012 at 8:18 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
What can be said? No suitable words to express sympathy.Just pray God to give courage to these ladies so as to continue fight.We too can do so much.Very strict rules must be enforced to punish the guilty on spot in public.Let us also meet and talk to these victims and be a friend of them
F
July 15, 2012 at 10:48 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Male privilege terrorism. This must end.
Gorbachev
July 15, 2012 at 12:06 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@Whoknows,
YOu’re right. I take Taslima’s posts rather personally. Here’s why.
I’m a huge supporter of women’s rights, generally. It galls, offends and terrifies me when I see women being systematically mistreated by men. I always feel ashamed and appalled when I see women being disrespected.
In work and life, I go to almost insane lengths to make sure women are treated fairly and as people – not as objects of any kind.
What gets me about what Taslima writes is this:
She’s always exaggerating for effect. She conflates horrible issues and sees connections where there are none, unless you’re a de rigeur marxist.
Like this post: “Why do women love “men” if “men” treat “women” like this?”
She’s berating women for associating with men because some men are like this.
She also seems to conflate all cultures.
Not all cultures are equally misogynistic; indeed, some are horrific, some are misogynistic in some ways but also give women extensive privileges (this could be a division of labor) and some are relatively benign.
What really ges me is this: She sees women are pure victims. Her brand of “feminism”, if it can be called that, reeks of the sterile gender wars of the 1980′s, and smells badly of misanthropic female stereotyping.
Since she appeared here, she’s cast about for everything – like some religious person seeing patterns of Jesus in clouds – looking for proof of inane conspiracy theories.
I’ve lived in the Muslim world: I’ve seen slave markets and I’ve had to sit back and watch and be powerless in the face of actual evil. I’ve spoken with Imams who are skilled at justifying the worst atrocities with the Koran – and, actually, it’s not twisting the religion, at all.
Islam is *not* like Christianity or Judaism. It’s inherently very aggressive and militant, and it represents true, abiding misogyny. Apologists either have an agenda (they’re Muslim) or they know nothing about the religion.
The more people learn about Islam, the less almost all non-Muslims like it. Wherever Islam has gone, death, poverty and oppression follow. If you tell the exact truth without exggeration, you’re called an Islamophobe. If you repeat what Muslim theologists say, you’re an Islamophobe. If you translate Muslim TV and tell outsiders what it says, you’re an Islamophobe.
Islam and the cultures of the Muslim world are antithetical in almost every way to the West and its secular values. Toxic would be a better word.
And yet, in the quest to continue a sterile gender war, Saudi Arabia is equated morally with Belgium.
Taslima’s obviously read lots of second/third -wave feminism, but only of the “Men are all evil” kind” – seeing patterns where none exist.
it’s sad, because she has actual status. And yet, the best example is her almost total ignorance of many issues in the West: her infantilization of women (because in her world, women are nothing but victims in an endless war in which men are set out to destroy them) knows no bounds.
The women I know balk at this kind of characterization. They make decisions, hold men to high standards, and have voice.
Taslima’s rank marxist approach also comes through very strong. It degrades women by deny them agency.
This is the empty ideologically repulsive feminism that most women rejected in the 1990′s in the West.
She doesn’t seem to realize that it was rejected for good reason.
And last: She seems more interested in artificial controversy and flash than actual depth or substance. She’s always after some cheap shock value, oversimplifying or confusing an issue to score tactical points.
She seems more interested in Taslima, than anything else. If you can’t see this, that’s unfortunate.
Every post she’s made has an almost child-like approach to issues.
I actually care about these issues, vicserally. I’ve had to stand by and watch women being stoned to death for being female, more or less. I’ve had to listen to men and other women explaining why this is just and fair.
In almost everything, Taslima insults and patronizes women with her posts, half the time.
I find this sad. I also find it gravely insulting to millions of women.
If you’re going to treat this topic with the seriousness and rigor it deserves, this kind of cheapening is wrong.
What’s worse, she’s unable to eve hear another person’s opinion. Her dismissal of the dozens of commenters who spoke up about her ludicrous posts on prostitution – as all being Against Women ™ even when they’re car-carrying, hard-core feminists (and female), smells like Patronizing claptrap.
I was expecting reason, thought and outrage. Instead, I found patronizing, insufferably self-satisfied obfuscation and general ignorance.
Go back and read her responses to all of her commenters if you like. All she seems to want is a Ra – Ra echo chamber chorus.
Dan L.
July 18, 2012 at 12:25 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
So you disagree with her. At a fundamental level. So why the heck are you reading her blog? Go read some blogs you like and enjoy. Get your blood pressure down. People are allowed to disagree with you, you know.
I can tell by your rhetoric that you spend plenty of time in your own echo chamber. The relentless drumbeat of accusations of “Marxism” in your posts is a pretty good hint. The fact that you seem completely unwilling to compromise your position for the sake of actually engaging anyone in serious discussion is another.
These accusations of hypocrisy would carry a lot more weight if they weren’t made by hypocrites.
Fuck Pussy
July 15, 2012 at 1:43 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Women get exactly what they deserve:
Fuck pussy, rape pussy, stalk pussy, beat pussy, lie to pussy, hunt pussy, track the pussy down at her home, injure pussy, torture pussy, kill pussy. Silence pussy.
Here are the names of just a few American Pussy Fuckers:
-Aaron Lazare M.D. – Head Hymie, PFIC, multiple female victims, multiple awards
-Thomas D. Manning – Head Hymie Hitman, multiple victims, largest pension in the state of Massachusetts
-Rev. Lawrence J. Cronin – Child Rapist, Manning’s Uncle, multiple victims including disabled children, no investigation
-Cardinal Sean O’Malley – Criminal, failed to report abuse to police, given promotion
-Lewis E. Braverman M.D. – Level 3 Sex Offender, 15 – 40 K female victims indecent A&B of the breasts, child abuse, multiple awards
-Stephen M. Cohen M.D. – Ob-Gyn Rapist, multiple decompensated female victims
-Paul S. Appelbaum M.D. – Violent Orthodox Jew Asperger Freak, Batterer, Stalker, Murderer, multiple female victims, multiple awards, Hastings Ethics Fellow, APA President
-Alan P. Brown M.D. – Severe Batterer, Stalker, Murderer, contract fraud, multiple victims
-David F. Gitlin M.D. – Severe Batterer, multiple victims, multiple awards
-Paul J. Barreira M.D. – PFOC, Batterer, multiple female victims, multiple awards
-Jeffrey Geller M.D. – Batterer, multiple female victims, multiple awards, APA Diversity Officer
-Joel M. Gore M.D. – Batterer, jail time, multiple episodes, multiple awards
-William Kadish M.D. – Rapist, multiple assaults on a disabled psych patient, no charges, works in the medical field with Parexel
-Michael E. Trice M.D. – Felon (assault on a male sexual competitor), Rapist, no charges, lives in a 1.6 million dollar house
-Robert Worthington- Kirsch M.D. – Sex Offenders, Stalker, Gynecologist
All these men had help from women.
Jason
July 15, 2012 at 11:47 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
… wat is this crazy.
Lol men
July 16, 2012 at 3:10 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
not really helping your cause here, male supremacist.
Art
July 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Men who do this need to disappear. These people are defective parts.
There is no point to figuring out motivated them to do this or to seek reparations or restitution. While I generally see justice as a social process best done in public with an open adversarial system I just don’t think it is applicable in these sorts of cases. If the throwing of acid can be shown to have occurred, and was done of their own free will, the question of guilt or punishment is not, IMO, in question. The idea of giving attention to these men and countenancing any possible explanation of why, watching them wrap themselves in religion, tradition or honor, seeking to justify their actions, is to disrespect the idea of humanity.
One does not hold a trial for a rabid dog. You don’t try to explain away or justify the condition. Treatment is not an option and recovery or rehabilitation are not in the cards. You execute a rabid dog. Then you quietly bury it without marking the grave. There is no point to talking about it. It had to be done and you did it quickly, efficiently, and with as little fuss as possible.
Even speaking of this as a lesson to others is besides the point. If you need to be told this you are a monster. You are morally and mentally defective and an imminent danger to those around you. You need to be kept safely away from people to prevent you from doing harm.
People who intentionally cause such harm need to vanish and never be spoken of again. People likely to do such a thing need to be prevented form interacting with others.
walkingaround
December 2, 2012 at 6:50 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
omg love your rabid dog analogy.
Cheyla
July 15, 2012 at 11:30 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Best support yet for eliminating the “Y” chromosome from our evolutionary history!
Jenny Draper
July 17, 2012 at 1:14 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
What? No-one said that. I smell troll.
Me
July 17, 2012 at 1:36 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Really? You had to take it there?
NachoMama
July 16, 2012 at 10:23 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
This is why religion, misogyny and the perpetuation of celebrating patriarchy needs to be stopped. Women, children, and even some men fall victim to the abuse such as we see here, only to be told it is the victims’ fault for being there, being who they are and just breathing.
If there truly was a god or gods that had the power to stop this evilness of mankind, wouldn’t you think they would prevent these acts from happening if these omnipotent being/beings from their “creations” from huring one another? This alone proves patriarchal religions and everything that comes with it is a joke, a lie and an excuse to make men powerful and women, children and men who support feminism less of a problem through fear, pain and suffering.
It’s true there are men out there that just want to watch the world burn because they believe it is their’s to do as they wish to it.
My heart does feel sorrowful for these women and countless others who have been attacked by monsters masked as “men” who think they know better and feel they have the right to harm whomever they please for their “God” or “personal” morals. Fuck them and every ounce of zealot-like behavior that they display.
It’s time to reclaim the world as a loving, peaceful and progressive society with order, protective laws and the right to a happy, fruitful life. Start with standing up for your right as a human to be free.
teh_faust
July 17, 2012 at 2:21 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yes… I don’t really have anything to add, but I’d just like to applaud this comment.
Gorbachev
July 16, 2012 at 11:29 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The incidences of these attacks that happen outside of the Muslim world are a tiny fraction of those that happen within it. The vast majority of such attacks are not reported or are dismissed by Muslim authorities. But in India, Bangladesh and especially Pakistan, these attacks are horrifyingly common. In India, the vast majority of these attacks are perpetrated by Muslims on Muslim women; given that 80% of the population is not Muslim, and most of the attacks are on Muslim women by Muslim men, it’s possible to say that while not a solely Muslim problem at all, it’s hevily Muslim.
In fact, honor crimes are largely also Muslim, though there are stories of Greek, Spanish, Hindu and Sikh families doing the same thing. But the vast majority, nearing 95%, are Muslim.
In Africa, if you parse the stories correctly, you also hear the same tunes. I was in Sudan, Kenya and Mozambique. In all of these places, it was understood and a given that the vast majority of rapes, attacks against women and other crimes – against women because they were women – were by Muslims.
This was true where Muslims were in a tiny minority. They usually made up all or mostly all of the crimes against women.
If you refuse to believe this, I encourage you to look up what stats are available or talk to people from these parts of the world.
And if this is insufficient, try Norway and Sweden.
In 2010, *all* – that is, 100% – of stranger rapes in Norway were committed by “immigrant” (short-form for “Muslim”) men.
*100%*
In Muslim countries with Christian minorities, one of the most common crimes is abducting and raping a young Christian woman, forcing her into a marriage, and then terrorizing the family.
Males who try to rescue their relative are often beaten or killed. Christian men have been hunted like wild animals by gangs of angry Muslims for trying to rescue their daughters, cousins or even wives.
Why?
Islam *ALLOWS* the abduction and forced marriage to “save” women from falling under the sway of an evil religion. If they’re not Christian or Muslim, like the animists in Irian Jaya in Indonesia or South Sudan,
THEY CAN BE KILLED OUTRIGHT AND HAVE NO RIGHTS OF ANY KIND. THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY NOT HUMAN.
This is Islam.
I was not exaggerating: Like a wave of fire, like an endless consuming madness, Islam breeds death and oppression everywhere it goes.
Muslims are good at playing “Victim” cards, especially in the West. But here’s a tragedy.
Muslims in the West are freer than they are under any Muslim government in history. Not only that, but under the *dictators* that the US propped up, Muslims were freer than they were and are under governments of their own making.
Ask any Muslim scholar; Islam does not value freedom or freedom of choice. In fact, scholars often say “Freedom is not Islamic”.
I’m not barking up a tree of rank intolerance, here. People in the West know virtually nothing about Islam, and it’s horrifying. The actual texts that inspire these nutjobs to do what they do are not abberations, and they’re not misinterpreting.
All of these things are carefully and methodically laid out. Ask Palestinian women what they think about women’s freedom in “Palestine”. large numbers of women flee their so-called “nation” to find safety with Jews and the Israeli government. it’s one of the unspoken shames of the Palestinian movement: that women, by and large, are the first to defect, and for very good reasons.
The sheer number of women killed in “honor killings” every year baffles people who study it.
I’m sure some acid attacks occur in places like Cambodia and non-Muslim African countries and in Sri Lanka, too. But when 95% of all of these attacks are by Muslims on other Muslims, it makes you wonder.
There’s a trend and a problem here. There’s a very, very consistent pattern, beyond the attackers being male.
By and large, they’re also Muslim.
You can call me “racist”, no matter how absurd that is. I’ll find you a hundred ex-Muslims who will say far worse things than me, back them up with family histories, and quote verse and chapter from the Quran or the hadith or from acceptably authentic sources.
Islam is not like other religions. It is unadulterated, raw oppression.
Submit or die.
Kris Freeman
July 16, 2012 at 3:40 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@Gorbachev, I am forced to agree with much of your reasoning. Living in India, a country where Islam is a vocal minority (at about 20%), we are seeing increasing signs of oppression within Islam and resistance to challenges to the oppression from non-Islamic institutions (such as laws of the land). Muslims do not want ‘others’ (ie., the law of the Secular State) to ‘interfere’ with their ‘rights/traditions/practices’ (esp. regarding treatment of women), while enjoying all the benefits of the State law.
The last 30 years of petro-dollar fuelled ascendancy of the extreme Wahabi brand of Islam has been at the heart of some of this intolerance–utter ignorance is another reason.
It is time that Freethinkers and Atheists took offensive positions against this religion…like the New Atheists of Reddit have done.
Gorbachev
July 16, 2012 at 7:50 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I’m sure there’s a lot of oppression not related to Islam. Let’s get that aside now.
However, while I was in East Africa, covering news, the single most telling aspect of almost everything massive;y bad that ever happened in countries with Muslim minorities (or majorities) was that Islam not only condoned it, but encouraged it.
Muslims do not react well to outsiders telling them what to do, or judging them. All outsiders are part of the House of War – Dar al Harb – and people like Hindus aren’t even People of the Book, so nothing you ever do to them is forbidden.
I’ve sat and watched young black girls being sold like cows in the marketplace, while Muslim scholars educated at the best Islamic institutions explain to me how this is part of Allah’s law.
The reason so few moderates are able to make themselves heard is that there is no “moderate” Islam – just some Muslims who don’t practice the religion very strictly.
The consistent factor in almost all of these crimes against humanity is Islam. It also echoes through time. It took Vlad Tsepesh (Dracula) to shock the Ottomans, who engaged in the most savage warfare imaginable. The Crusaders were a bunch of pirates and barbarians, but even they balked at some of the things the Moors did to captives or their own people when they were disobeyed.
We paint Islam as some kind of noble, misunderstood, maligned faith in the West. It’s called racism to even repeat what Muslims themselves say.
But I’ve traveled in the Middle East and worked where Arabs, the people who claim endless victimhood, have worked the magic of Islam.
I’ve had Muslim scholars tell me how murdering a girl’s family and raping her and calling it marriage or slavery to save her soul is a commandment from Allah. And then they bring out Islamic texts to prove it to me.
The only way anyone can defend Islam or be neutral towards it is if they hate women with a singular passion, detest non-Muslims or they know nothing about Islam.
And by and large, those in the West who see ghosts of privilege behind every door and seek to fight the good fight by claiming moral equivalency for honor killings and attacks like these with women passengers not having bike helmets–
There is real, vicious, endless and brutal oppression of womn in this world. I’ve seen it. I’ve been powerless to do anything about it.
I’ve had nice discussions with Muslims about how their religion isn’t like this, so I pull out annotated translations from Al Azhar and other Muslim schools, and show them. They shake their heads and refuse to see, or call me misled.
Usually, these are Muslims who know less than nothing about their own religion themselves.
Apostates I know live under a lifetime fear of random murder, because anyone who leaves Islam must be killed. Not MIGHT be killed; MUST be killed.
*Killed*.
As one high-ranked cleric in Egypt said, “There is no freedom in Islam. Islam is submission.”
There is no moral equivalency between what goes on in the Muslim world and outside it.
I’ve sat listening to well-educated Muslims in the West defend the practice of slavery in Africa. I’ve listened to Arabs expounding on the decadence of Western countries not subduing their women.
It’s repulsive to see people drawn into this by lies, trickery and deceit – also allowed in Islam to fool your opponents.
Desigirl
July 16, 2012 at 3:51 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
wow!
I do hate Islam and its misogyny.
But at least acid attacks are definitely not “Islam driven”.
In my home-state, every other week , there is an acid attack on newspapers – and nope, they are never predominantly anything – and definitely not Islamic.
Rural, urban, educated, illiterate -every sphere- it is so common in the patriarchy-diseased “culture” – which is not at all Islamic.
This is so common in the unrepentant society that there are casual “throwing-acid” jokes in the mainstream movies.
I guess, it is okay to blame the men who do this (as mentioned as “our” men) and the patriarchal society/male privilege/entitlement, rather than keep harping on the single word “Islam”.
For Islamic men, Islam is the excuse, for the rest who propagate this “male privilege” is the excuse.
So if we are allowed to attack the Islam, without worrying about the “generalization”- i guess we are very well allowed to attack the “male privilege terrorism” (as beautifully put above by a commenter) without bothering about generalization(no sane reader, will take this as a generalization- ).
I’m guessing – on why only India+around has more of this issue – it is because, along with misogyny, these places are blessed with general law and order problem.
Taking the Tosh episode – so many idiots are defending him – how are these people better? They are practicing what level of blatant misogyny is legally allowed to them and sometimes going off that limit too ( I think, the lady who walked into the bar can sue him – if patriarchy doesn’t create a mockery of justice in such cases), and the acid throwers are doing what is “marginally allowed” in their area.
I can talk for India – where I have lived 30 years – the men who commit these horrendous crimes – mostly – almost all the time – get free ticket – something like 6 months in prison or/and Rs.10000($220) fine – and many times not even that.
Gorbachev
July 16, 2012 at 4:16 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
But Ms. Nasrin,
despite what you write here:
We are more abused, harassed, exploited, kidnapped, raped, trafficked, murdered by our lovers, husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins, friends, or men we know well than by strangers. Whatever happens to us, we never stop loving men.
There’s no universal war on women. The father down the street is guilty of nothing. The FACT that he’s a man is irrelevant.
Women and men are individuals: Not formless members of classes locked in eternal warfare.
Your opportunistic hyperbole does victims of these crimes no service at all.
mynameischeese
July 16, 2012 at 6:59 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@Gorbachev, Most of the time, your comments are filled with way too many turds of incoherance to sort through, but since this one is smallish, I’m going to explain why your turds are turds.
“Women and men are individuals”
Your attitude is anti-intellectual and anti-science. Let’s say a scientist had 2 groups of mice, brown mice and grey mice. Let’s say the brown mice attacked the grey mice at a higher rate than vice versa.
What would a scientist say? A scientist would say, “There’s something going on with these mice. You’d expect that the brown mice would attack the grey mice as often as vice versa, but that’s not what’s happening here. Let’s find out what’s going on.”
What would Gorbachev say? He’d say, “All the mice are individuals, damn it! Nothing to see here! If you even dare repeat the factual observation that the brown mice attack the grey mice more often than vice versa, then you’re a terrorist!”
Of course, you probably wouldn’t really say that about the mice because you don’t have any emotional issues with mice (I’m assuming). But you do something similar over and over again when it comes to women. Why? Why do you hate women so much, Gorbachev? Why do you insist that you’re a “feminist” and then spew out bad MRA “arguments”? And why do you hate science so much?
B-Lar
July 17, 2012 at 3:18 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Gorbachev is a brown mouse outside of the study group who is saying “not all brown mice are like that, and its not helpful to say that they are”
This is factually correct, but is an attitude that suggests a desire to disengage himself and others from the debate. The correct response to the study would be to investigate and establish conditions in which brown mice and white mice can co-exist with minimum violence.
B-Lar
July 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
…or grey mice… whatever…
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July 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Jesus. This stuff is unspeakable.
I have to ask – you say “our men”. I don’t know any men who would not sooner die than do something like this.
This is what real oppression looks like – as opposed to stupid, vague complaints against “patriarchy”. This is what real oppression is.
Phillip Helbig
July 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
“Men throw acid on us with the intention of injuring and disfiguring us.”
This has been pointed out before: You would get a much better response if you wrote “some men” if you mean “some men”. If you mean “all men”, write “all men”. One can argue about whether “men” means “some men” or “all men”. As a well read native speaker of English, my impression is that in most cases it means “all men” or at least “almost all men”.
It is so easy to be clear.
As Churchill said to a speech writer who wrote about “fighting with the Germans”, we are either fighting for the Germans or against the Germans. Be clear.
I have read a few newspaper reports about women (note: in this context, it means “some women”; I shouldn’t even have to point this out) castrating or even cutting off the penis of their husbands. Whatever the reason, and whether or not you think it justified, a headline like “Women castrate men” would, I hope you agree, be too general and create the wrong impression.
skeptifem
July 17, 2012 at 4:36 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Do you think that “men” could refer to “men as a class” rather than “every man all the time”? What good would it do to say some men when in reality all men enjoy the privilege of doing these things without any real consequences, and are *not* subject to these threats?
I am sick to death of you fuckers showing up here to tell taslima how she should phrase her outrage instead of worrying about the horror she points out. If you had an ounce of integrity your concerns about phrasing wouldn’t be of such great importance compared to the issue at hand.
Ysanne
July 17, 2012 at 5:03 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Except that “men as a class” neither want nor do throw acid in women’s faces.
Members of some specific classes of man — entitled men without the capacity for empathy, raised cultures that condone open violence and repression against women — do this sometimes. Just as some men kill women, some men mutilate women, some men beat women etc.
Do you really think it helps to lump these men together with all the others who find this kind of violence horrific? Do you think it helps anyone?
You rightly object to the “women exploit men” generalisations of MRAs, as it’s only _some_ women who take advantage of men, not women as a whole. Then how can you expect others to accept being labelled as horrible violent criminals on the basis of their sex?
Phillip Helbig
July 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
“What good would it do to say some men when in reality all men enjoy the privilege of doing these things [emphasis added] without any real consequences”
Bullshit. Talk about generalization.
Colleen Moore
July 17, 2012 at 6:43 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Dear Skeptifem , even gay men are tired of the feminist man hating rants, when women in America are 50% of all domestic violence according to the CDC and Feminist have a huge history of hating gay men . Feminist have written such things as ” MISANDRY : Feminist Gay Bashing ” & Feminist Need to Stop Bashing Gay Desighners” and women kill there children more oftgen than fathers do and that is ever worse.
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July 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Well, there are many instances of mothers killing their children (see infanticide in china, honour killings in the ME and so on), and there are plenty of female teachers found and convicted of taking sexual advantage – i.e. rape – of their students. Now you’re woman, so that makes you responsible. Right?
Meanwhile, the armed forces are predominantly male and it is they who, e.g., hunt down and kill the Taliban. So that should be credited to me, right?
Except this is grotesque. Human beings are only ever responsible for what they do themselves. Your collectivism is primitive and it is grotesque.
And I am sick to death of people like you, members of the “spoiled, pointless, hateful” class.
Gorbachev
July 16, 2012 at 7:55 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
All men are not guilty. “MEN” are not guilty; “SOME MEN” are guilty.
In the same way, women who beat their children do not tar all women with beating their children.
Taslima has repeatedly made over-generalized, gender-war like statements in order to inflame passions and make it seem like women shouldn’t be associating with men (a clear purpose in the lines she writes in this post).
This is very, very cheap, shoddy muckraking and gender-warfare masquerading as concern for women. It’s crass politicking.
It’s talk like this that drives women away from feminism, because most women want to be with men, have sons, fathers, and understand that men are not the enemy.
if Taslima Nasrin believes in some kind of magic separatism where women can be free of men completely and the perfidious evil and poison every man represents, then perhaps she’s not fully happy being human.
“Men” are not guilty. “Some men” are.
Hunt them, but don’t associate these men with the vast, overwhelming number of men who would never, ever do anything like throw acid on any other person deliberately.
And before we start taking apart Western sexism, we might want to examine the big elephant in the room – the Muslim world.
Robert St. Estephe
July 16, 2012 at 10:38 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Acid-throwing used to be fairly common in the United States. Perpetrators were of both sexes, usually motivated by personal feelings, but sometimes acid was a weapon used by muggers and robbers. The viciousness of such crimes is beyond words. I believe individual cruelty and individual lack of compassion is every bit as an important factor as are social influences. Even if someone were to encourage me to commit such a crime on a person who has wronged me, and guaranteed me immunity, I would no do it. Individual agency must be taken seriously. It is important to avoid treating female victims of female perpetrators as second class victims, just because the attacker was not a male.
Here is a post showing some cases: “Acid Queens: Women Who Throw Acid.”
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/search/label/Acid%20Queens
Jenny Draper
July 17, 2012 at 1:17 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Taslima, do you have some links for these stories? I’m a big fan of citing one’s sources. I don’t feel I can really share this article without making sure my arse is covered (with sources).
Withinthismind
July 17, 2012 at 1:27 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Sure, not all men are guilty. Only 99% of men are guilty. Folks like Gorbachev here are proof. In their spiteful, bullshit trolling, they tell the men who commit the crime that they are supported. They give the men the ‘courage’ to throw acid on a woman by suggesting the woman ‘had it coming’ or that it wouldn’t have happened if the woman hadn’t been so uppity.
Every man who fails to wholeheartedly and openly condemn this behavior, every man who engages in the microaggressions that build up into this behavior, every man who jokes about this behavior, every man who is blind to his privilege, is guilty.
Jenny Draper
July 17, 2012 at 2:33 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
That’s like the MRA claim that 99% of women are whores because they accept gifts from lovers. You’re not guilty of a crime unless you’ve committed it. I like to think that’s how our justice system works, anyway.
Jenny Draper
July 17, 2012 at 2:35 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
But then again, quibbling over the semantics of Taslima’s plural is a fairly rudimentary derailing tactic. Back to the topic now!
Robert
July 17, 2012 at 2:35 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
…As is every woman who did not raise her son with a standard of morality and ethics that would preclude such behaviors…..
Sue Blue
July 17, 2012 at 9:18 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
As are some men who raise sons.
Gary
July 17, 2012 at 2:39 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
99% of men are guilty? 99% of the men I know wake up at 7am, brush their teeth, shower, drive a car, works to support his family, and finally returns home to enjoy any rest he can get.
99% of women I know do the same freakin’ thing.
You honestly do not believe that THAT many men would go to work, rape some women along the way, sexually harass his co-workers, and then come home to apply daily acid to his wife’s face, and then whip his kids, do you?
Micro-aggressions are also not exclusive to men, and don’t try to act like it is. Just walking into the train station, I see women sneering at men just as much as I see men sneering at women. (Both are almost non-existent)
I’m not going to say that sexism does not exist, but SO OFTEN it isn’t even intended, one of the participants just take it the wrong way.
Why do all these small, ridiculous actions so deeply offend a person, driving people to be anti-social against the opposite sex? This is just completely stupid.
You ask for equality, and refuse to approach it. This only paint new borders between males and females by condemning men for everything.
And, Gorbachev was never encouraging any man to pour acid anywhere. He simply stated that pouring acid is prominent within the Muslim culture. Not once did he support it, he condemned it and said it was unfair to attribute these actions to EVERY single man around the world.
Judging from your response, you didn’t even read Gorbachev’s statements and came to the conclusion that he was trolling and a hateful male supremest, only because you refuse to believe that not all men are spawns of the devil.
The real troll here, is you.
Withinthismind
July 17, 2012 at 7:31 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Nope, but that many men benefit from the privilege and rape culture that allows such things to happen.
Phillip Helbig
July 17, 2012 at 6:11 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Bullshit.
Note that my comments to other comments are detailed responses—if the other comments deserve them. This one doesn’t.
Dan L.
July 18, 2012 at 12:14 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Umm, I’ve been to college. Fraternities full of guys egging each other on into date raping young women. Rape culture is a real thing.
cswella
July 17, 2012 at 4:30 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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July 17, 2012 at 3:55 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
You lie. You lie despicably. There isn’t a man known to me that would not consider this an unspeakable horror and an inexcusable horror.
Incidentally, the oppression of women is very often supported by other women. Women committing honor killing to their own daughters, supporting the stoning law etc.
This isn’t a matter of sex. It’s a matter of ideas.
Withinthismind
July 18, 2012 at 6:20 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Sweetheart, I guarantee you that among the men you know – at least one is a spousal abuser, and at least one is a rapist. The majority of them will laugh at a rape joke, or accuse a woman of being oversensitive when she doesn’t respond with glee when they hit on her.
Open your eyes.
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July 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
If you have evidence of this, take it to the police. But I doubt you will, because I am reasonably certain this is all made up. I’ve dealt with way too many spoiled brats like you who want to whine that they’re oppressed because they’re ashamed of their privilege.
Withinthismind
July 18, 2012 at 10:38 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
1 in 5 women are raped. The average rapist attacks 10.
Are you saying you know less than 50?
And here I thought men were supposed to be good at math.
Tombo
July 17, 2012 at 2:15 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The “men” that do this are no Men at all but instead a wart on the face of the earth and an embarrassment to real men everywhere.
This is just plain out horrible.
From a man.
Albert Bakker
July 17, 2012 at 11:10 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The problem is that these men think of themselves as “real” men. This sense of pride on having been born with the superior gender is what a real man feel entitles them to own his property, a woman. Real men don’t have relationships, they own stuff. Real men also don’t like women, instead they covet other real men’s property. And if that other real man sees his property rights endangered by rule of “if I can’t has it, no one can” he just breaks it so it becomes worthless for his competitors and his reputation and credibility as a real man has been saved from the humiliation of being cheated out of property without proper compensation.
Liv
September 18, 2012 at 3:30 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
That is so true, Albert, and so extremely sad and hopeless…
Adam
July 17, 2012 at 2:52 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Why not make a post urging an end to all acid attacks, why restrict your attention to cases where the victim is a female and the attacker is male?
For a more complete approach in your next blog on this subject, here are some stories of women attacking others (some men, some women) with acid:
http://www.yourblackworld.com/2012/05/28/down-right-dirty-woman-throws-acid-in-ex-boyfriends-face/
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/22/world/vengeance-destroys-faces-and-souls-in-cambodia.html
http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/woman-throws-acid-on-lover-s-face-188652
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-05/delhi/30115437_1_vineet-acid-bottle-pcr-van
and here’s one where the woman threw the acid in her own face:
http://www.popfi.com/2010/09/17/woman-fakes-attack-throws-acid-in-her-own-face/
Mind you these are only what I found in two minutes of googling “woman throws acid,” probably just the tip of the iceberg really.
Albert Bakker
July 17, 2012 at 11:18 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
In less than 0,5 seconds you can google that around 1500 new victims each year are disfigured by acid attacks globally and 80% of the victims are women and roughly half under the age of 18. These are the reported cases, as in there are actually more. The main victims are unequivocally young women. Can’t really understand the motivation to try to detract from this fact.
http://www.acidviolence.org/index.php/news/defacing-women-acid-attacks-on-film/
Human being
July 17, 2012 at 2:58 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
PLEASE READ THIS. I FEEL LIKE CRYING. I JUST CANT WRITE THINGS. BUT I FEEL TO CONVEY THIS.
GOVERNMENT HAVE SO MUCH MONEY AND POWER, WHY CANT THEY SPEND ALL THE MONEY THEY HAVE ON THOSE ACID ATTACKED VICTIMS AND HELP THEM HAVE A COMPLETE SURGERY ???? THIS IS OUR MONEY, OBTAINED FROM OUR HARD WORKS. ALL THE TAXES YOU HAVE LEVIED ON OUR INCOMES. SPEND THEM RIGHT NOW. (APPEAL TO GOVT. OF INDIA, GOVT. OF NEPAL, GOVT. OF BANGLADESH, GOVT. OF ALL THE COUNTRIES)
I STRONGLY FEEL LIKE SHOUTING AT THE GOVERNMENT BODIES TO TAKE ACTION AND TO PASS A LAW AGAINST SUCH BRUTALITY. THE ATTACKERS SHOULD NOT BE JAILED. THEY SHOULD SIMPLY BE BE-HEADED/ DECAPITATED(ANYTHING MORE THAN HANGING TO DEATH).
ivarhusa
July 17, 2012 at 3:49 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Deeply disturbing. Worthy of attention. How to prevent such crimes?
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July 17, 2012 at 4:48 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Well, my suggestion is we look up what Sir Charles James Napier’s response was to the practice of suttee.
And that was the end of that.
Infophile
July 17, 2012 at 4:49 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Thank you for this. This has given me a burst of righteous anger that I hope to use to fight some of the day-to-day misogyny I see. I might not be able to directly stop these attacks, but I hope I can at least do something about the environment that enables this type of thing.
Colleen Moore
July 17, 2012 at 4:53 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Why is it that when men have acid thrown on them or burned why do we not get as upset as this ?
OleanderTea
July 17, 2012 at 5:37 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Do you have reports of women burning men with acid in retaliation for wearing the wrong clothes, attracting too much attention, or breaking up with them?
Colleen Moore
July 17, 2012 at 10:48 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yes men all over the globe are abused daily and according to the CDC womemn are half the problem of domestic violence and mothers kill their children more often than fathers do. Women have been known to set their male partners on fire , use acid etc. Please wake up and read.
A 'Nym Too
July 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yeah Colin. Don’t let us forget that the poor menz with their hurt feefees are bigger victims than eyeless, earless, lipless women.
lefttheleft
July 17, 2012 at 3:27 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
“Don’t let us forget that the poor menz with their hurt feefees are bigger victims than eyeless, earless, lipless women.”
Some of the conventional, elevated arguments for feminism involve nothing but an appeal to “feefees.”
The word of the day is: “gander.” A gander is an adult male goose. “Goose” can refer to an individual from one of a few related genera or specifically to an adult female.
What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Colleen Moore
July 17, 2012 at 6:47 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
You are not even worth commenting back to with a statement such as that, you are patetic.
OleanderTea
July 17, 2012 at 5:34 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
….and the representative from Crazy Town has been heard from.
OleanderTea
July 17, 2012 at 5:35 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Oh no…my apologies. My previous comment was a massive nested reply fail and was intended to be a response to the loon at #14.
Gorbachev
July 17, 2012 at 10:38 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@Withinthismind,
You may believe that there’s an endless war of all men against all women, … and Taslima NAsrin seems to believe this too.
But this is not the case. Your bizarre, addled-brain conspiracy theory approach aside, there’s no Patriarchy meeting on Tuesday nights to decide the fate of women everywhere.
Nope, but that many men benefit from the privilege and rape culture that allows such things to happen.
No man is repsonsible for the crimes of another. If women live in fear of all men because .05 commit crimes, that’s frankly their own problem.
In countries where *serious* misogyny exists, like Egypt, or any Muslim country, or our own a few generations ago, then you might have a better argument, BUT:
Men are not members of an amorphous class. You’re thinking in Marxist class-struggle categories. Women are not “Woman”.
This is the same exact error that Ms. Nasrin makes.
And as far as privilege goes, this does not mean I should be treated differently, nor any woman.
A woman has a privilege: She can bear children. I can’t. Should I berate her her privilege?
I can walk while a disabled person can’t. This privlege is mine, then. Is there a fault or blame?
This is the empty, sterile region of Who Is The Greater Victim politics that has utterly crippled the left in the US. It ends up with anti-individualist, tyrranical public policies.
Stop thinking in categories. Start thinking of people as people, not vaguely pasty objects you can move around a chessboard. Or Pinatas onto which you posit all of your ideological mumbo jumbo.
It’s why radical “neofeminism” (I can’t call it feminism) with its talk of gender wars sounds like intellectually bankrupt post-modernist marxist thought half the time, and like some sort of bizarre religious cult the rest.
Lots of commenters here get it.
Ms. Nasrin, among them, does not. I suspect she either doesn’t understand or is wilfully blind. The blindness of the ideologue.
And you’re worse.
Withinthismind
July 18, 2012 at 6:26 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Gor,
Hi.
I’m a woman.
I work in a typically ‘male’ field.
I am considered attractive.
I am working on higher education goals.
I occasionally go places like bars, sporting events, computer stores, and gaming conventions.
No, they don’t limit the patriarchy meetings to Tuesday nights. It’s an ongoing, constant thing. The men who do not actively participate turn a blind eye or even defend the participates. Just like you do.
This is the US. It is a country in which serious misogyny exists. I know this for a fact. You see, I am a woman who made the mistake of trying to get justice when I was sexually assaulted.
So I say this, with all do respect: Go Fuck Yourself.
Paul
July 17, 2012 at 11:04 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Women continue to love men because that’s what they’re genetically programmed to do. It will never change, nor should it. I don’t think that men are genetically programmed to oppress women – it’s something that’s learned (at least I’m not constantly fighting some primal urge that’s trying to get me to dominate women and I don’t think any other men that I know do either). I’m not going to generalize by blaming a religion or a nationality, but if males in a society believe that they can burn women with acid if they want because they feel they’re entitled to do that sort of thing, then there’s something fundamentally wrong with that society (but hey, who am I to tell someone that their core beliefs are wrong?) “Men” in general don’t need to change – it’s the society that trains the men to think in a way that oppresses women that needs to change. Men don’t come out of the womb thinking that they’re better than women – that’s something that’s learned by watching how the world around him treats women. The world around me has always been a men and women are equal world, so that’s what I know and believe. But, if I’d been bombarded by misogyny my whole life, then it’s reasonable to think that I’d grow up to be a misogynist.
Reynold
July 17, 2012 at 11:14 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Something to remember though…Muslims are not the only religious group who’s in favour of this kind of sociopathic anti-human bullshit.
Here’s an example of a christian who seems to see no problem with it. I’ve linked to the FSTDT site instead of his own. You can go to the FSTDT site and read the comments his sociopathy has generated among actual human beings. You can go to his post from the FSTDT site anyway.
This guy also has no problem with men raping their wives either. According to him, there is no such thing as marital rape.
What in hell is is with religious belief that makes people believe such madness??
edlyn
July 17, 2012 at 11:43 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
to stop this horror, perpetuators of these crimes should be immediately and harshly punished. the fact that they are easily let off is a message that it’s ok to do these. no. the men who did these should rot behind bars for life, after giving all their worldly goods to the women they harmed, for treatment, rehabilitation, and in order to MAKE AMENDS
sw
July 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
as someone who occasionally sides with some of the MRA type posts, even if sometimes it’s just to say either “well, technically he’s not wrong” or “hey, no need to tear his face off for a fairly innocuous comment”, I have to say this is an awesome (although really depressing and anger-inducing) post. Anyone who objects to it is, as far as I can tell, just objecting for the purpose of trolling. If you can’t work out that when she says “men” she doesn’t mean “every single man on Earth”, you’re just not trying hard enough.
Phillip Helbig
July 17, 2012 at 8:25 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yes we are. This has been pointed out to her many times. She seemingly intentionally doesn’t want to avoid the impression of provocation for its own sake. It would be better if she followed suggestions from native speakers of English with regard to what things mean in what contexts.
Albert Bakker
July 17, 2012 at 11:45 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I’m not a native English speaker. And yet I don’t really have to try all that hard to understand it in just the way ‘sw’ does.
It would be a fallacy of ambiguity (in particular a fallacy of division) to take that what is true for the set of men (collectively) would necessarily have to be true (distributively) for all the members of a set (and vice versa.)
But that it is true for some men is rather impossible to dispute and that is true for far too many of members of this set seems to me equally well established. If you are being provoked by this fact than please be provoked by the fact, not by the stating of the fact.
Dan L.
July 18, 2012 at 12:17 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Yet more evidence that folks who don’t speak English as a first language nonetheless read and use English more skillfully than USA residents’ whose only language is English.
AnonComment
July 17, 2012 at 7:47 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Who the fuck would do that… These pictures are literally bringing tears to my eyes… Clearly for some people just murdering isn’t enough – disgusting.
JimDiver
July 17, 2012 at 9:27 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Seems to me there is a market here for a product or kit that an acid attack victim could have hidden prior to the attack and use it to neutralize the acid?
But it is time to institute the death penalty for the perps of acid attacks as well.
Parrotfeathers
July 17, 2012 at 10:04 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
What’s stunning to me is that none of the comments about this essay acknowledges the attacks now being perpetrated by a misogynistic congress on the hard won rights of women in the United States (if I’ve missed one, I apologize for that). Conflating the two may, at first, seem outrageous: acid attacks are fast and brutal, while legislation against women’s rights is insidious.
My outrage at a society — as small as a family or as large as a country/religion — that nurtures such hatred and fear of women, or the sympathy I feel for these tortured sisters, doesn’t and shouldn’t cause me to think that these acid crimes are more of an emergency than the crimes being committed by a show of clean (mostly) pink, male hands voting against the best interests of its female citizens.
The rules of engagement may be different, but it’s the same battle.
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July 17, 2012 at 11:17 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
No, they are outrageous. They are contemptible. They another example of the spoiled parochial upper-middle class North American brat who can seriously conflate the need to pay for your own damn birth control with this.
How can someone like you face yourself in the mirror?
Withinthismind
July 18, 2012 at 6:31 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
With self respect and dignity, two things you are lacking.
Out of curiosity, have you read 1984?
They don’t start with the acid throwing, dipshit. They start smaller. With things, like, oh, taking away your birth control, and saying things like ‘if you wear a short skirt you are asking for it’ They chip away and chip away until suddenly, acid being thrown is just one more on the list of things women have to fear when they get up in the morning. A list that started with sexual harassment and rape jokes, then to Magdalene laundries, then to acid and stonings.
How can you go through life with the level of willful ignorance you display on this issue?
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July 18, 2012 at 3:15 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Sorry, what’s that? Ain’t no such book, sweetie. This is a classic mistake of pseudo-intellectuals. The name of Orwell’s book is Nineteen Eighty Four. Written in words. And the other giveaway that you have never, ever read any of Orwell seriously – especially not, say, his work on the dimwit moral equivalents of the Second World War – is the rest of this:
Bullshit. Comprehensive, and utter bullshit. The only argument even being put before the US senate is whether you should pay for your own damn birth control.
And the ‘slippery slope’ argument here is comprehensive nonsense. The Taliban seized Afghanistan and totally changed a reasonably open society in nothing flat. In Germany the National Socialists did the same thing; it’s one reason they succeeded.
Pompous, spoiled North American brats shopping for some designer suffering. There’s nothing worse.
aw
July 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
George Orwell’s 1984:
https://www.google.com/search?q=1984+george+orwell&hl=en&prmd=imvnsbo&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=jYkGUJ6DJcSG2gXppJ2tBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CGMQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=948
Attempts to grant personhood to the unborn in the US (not about paying for BC):
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-02-16/news/31069300_1_personhood-usa-abortion-gay-marriage
Your google broke?
Taslima Nasreen
July 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
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July 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The google generation. I read books. And the book is called Nineteen Eighty Four
Just go back to playing with your toys and leave this stuff to the adults.
Madeline
September 21, 2012 at 10:22 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
spoiled brat, surely you mean the insistence and blatant approval by majority of Patriarchs in America, who demand and GET paid for
Viagra!
you meant Those spoiled brats right?
Parrotfeathers
July 18, 2012 at 7:40 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Dear ellipsis, you got me! I’m all those things you intuited from my one and only post. Very savvy of you. I do hope you’ll give that post another read, and me another chance, because my intentions are good. I’d hoped for a deeper conversation about the multiple fears women face every damned day.
This brat and my own brattish progeny carry pepper spray. My brattettes also have personal alams courtesy of their father. Their father doesn’t carry a weapon, defensive or otherwise. And, as far as I know, our little brats’ male friends don’t go about their day-to-day business with self defense a concern. Men don’t share our fears. Some might fear for us, but they don’t fear for their own safety.
You say you don’t know any men who would throw acid at another human being. I don’t think I do either. But these men exist as Taslima has shown (you knew this was happening before now, right?). They knew their attackers, as do most women victims, and they might even have bragged that they, too, didn’t know such men.
Another poster thinks there’s “a market” for a substance that would render harmless the acid effects. Hey, burkas are a safer bet, Mr.Entreprenuer. The ugly things need to be equipped for air conditioning, though. You work on that.
Ellipsis, do you deep down, where your conscience burns, care more about how a book title is spelled than the lessons it contains?
Gawd I am so tired.
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July 18, 2012 at 9:09 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
It’s a neat little indication that I’m dealing with someone certainly doesn’t understand Orwell, and probably hasn’t even read the book, let alone Orwell’s real writing. It’s a half-step from Godwin’s law. Sorry, but phoneys always give themselves away
Absolutely true. Which is why it is grotesque a) to amalgamate all men with such depraved criminals (it’s also done by women to women, incidentally, and about 20% of the victims are male); this is about as right as saying that, given that three predominant countries where this happens are India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh, that all people from the subcontinent are guilty, and b) for dumbass nortamericanos shopping for some designer suffering to amalgamate their cases with this.
This is what real oppression looks like, rather than bullshit drooling about “the patriarchy”.
proxer
July 18, 2012 at 1:05 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Thank you for writing this article. My heart goes out to all of these women, and those like them. I don’t know what else to say. This kind of thing needs to stop.
Krasnaya Koshka
July 20, 2012 at 11:24 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I’m so late to this post but all I have to say is, “What the fuck?” I’m a lesbian and most of my relationships ended with my ex-gfs breaking up with me and now we’re best friends (for the most part).
Never would it have crossed my mind to disfigure them. But then I never felt like I owned them, just was enjoying their closeness and personalities for some time.
Sure, I was really hurt when they left me but GOOD GRAVY I only wanted them to find what they wanted in the future. Because I loved them, truly, and did not think of them as livestock or, really, beneath livestock.
I’ve read many stories like this already (and I know one from my life–an ex-husband slicing up his wife’s face and cutting out her eyes) so it doesn’t surprise me as much as it shocks me that the perpetrators are rarely prosecuted.
Mike Kuester
July 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
There is only one way to solve this. Either castrate all man, and use only sperm banks as to reproduce, and peacefully euthanise all male infants on birth.
Or create a virus that only affect males. It is scientifically proven that males are unnatural product of a mutation. So it is possible to create a virus that finds the Y.
Or what they suggested in this thread:
http://radicalhub.com/2011/10/04/radical-feminism-in-the-21st-century/
Read the comments they say countless examples of how natural agression and contempt for womyn is present from birth in males.
Lower the testosterone levels to the normal level (that of womyn), manimals have 15 times the normal value of testosterone. They are biologically inferior, hard coded for violence, testosterone makes them ruthles killing machines that have no feelings, like we womyn do.
Even if they did have feeling, that is nothing comparable to our suprior empathy and talents to precise know another person (womyn) feelings, and able to emotionally understand her.
That is why womyn should never even bother to have their “boyfriend” (future rapist) to read their mind, and guess what they want for example for birthday. They are incapable to do that.
Recently this was the reason I have left my husband a turned fully lesbian. He was a sex addict, every man is a sex addict. It doesn’t mattered him, that I have stated that I don’t understand what is good in sex, and other than making children why people do it.
For me it is a waste of time, don’t think that I am ugly or crazy something because only ugly women don’t like sex what mysognist always say. I am a reasonable person, I can make compromises, for 3 years we had sex once a year with my husband, but he wanted more and more. Finally he convinced me, to have 3 it three times a year. But even that wasn’t enough, he wanted in every month! Can you imagine that? What a selfish bastard.
Don’t get me wrong sex isn’t bad, but its isn’t good either, for me it’s just like playing video games, what my little brother always do, a waste of time. Besides only manimals can regard such wasteful and violent (mostly towards womyn) thing as playing video games “fun”.
My new lesbian parner understands me so much more better. She doesn’t mind if we don’t have sex, she can understand that. You see she even expressed that sex is less and less important for her after she turned lesbian. Only a womyn can do that. Gay males? They are as much violent as their “straigh” counterparts.
Slowly I start to understand the pure logic and reason behind those sentences of famous feminist, when they say that any kind of form of sex between a female and male is rape, and the female is always the victim. Womens are powerless because of the genetic mutation, testosterone make males more muscular, it is unnatural.
These acid attack prove this too. No womyn would ever do such thing to anybody, not even a male. We are much better than that, only males are capable of violence. I have never found any case where a womyn resorted “violence”, and it wasn’t self defense agaisnt a male.
I even wonder how is it possible that the news of these attacks are allowed to reach us from the patriarchy. The only viable explanation that they try to say that only one part of males are bad, and hey we are the good guys here, we gave you rights. That is bullshit. Also they make tonnes of false news and science, to try to downplay womyn, or to make tham equal to men on violence scale. Or that womyn didn1t contributed everything to science and to how well-fare we live today. The truth is the ancient womyn guided cave societies were perfect. There is no need for electricity, or oil or ny kind, womyn are capable to do wonderful things on their own with their body and love. Al this materialistic world is invented by manimals to degrade us, and in reality the ydidn’t acchive anything, we are way worse off than before the stone age, and all the wars, man only invented war tools nothing new. When womyn lead all humans, in the past we didn1t kill any animals just ate nut and fruits and plants, we were not murderous, man spoiled this by saying that we need meet, so he posed as something important to society, a pseudo purpose, when in reality teh have none. Look at the bonoby chimpanzees, they have womyn leaders, they don’t use mysognist technology, yet they live a healthy, peaceful and happy life. That is because womyn selelect wich males can breed, and they breed only the peaceful and controllable males, the aggressive “free thinking” males are extinct. We should do the same. Males are incapable to act logically on their own.
http://radicalhub.com/2012/07/15/radical-feminism-is-gaining-ground/#more-8172
The truth is we are not equal womyn were always better, more kind, nice, sociable, intelligent, sympathetic etc. towards all beings and children. Males try to corrupt us but they fail, let’s unite all womyn and throw down the patriarchy!
War on lesbians by fake man who pose as womyn:
http://davinasquirrel.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/nyc-dykemarch-inclusive-but-not-for-lesbians/
Hermaprodite and asexual animals are more prevalent in nature, than the unnatrual two sexes ones:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction
An all womyn society is the only natural thing, look at these animals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teiidae
They use parthenogenesis, they don’t even need males, this is the natural way of life! Tomorrow we have the things to do this to ourselves, and that is natural, no more suffering, no more misery, no more wars. Just a pure womyn, all planet wide lesbian society to spread peace and love all around. We have to spread the word to other womyn on the globe, that men enforce them to love only males wichis unnatural. Every unrestricted womyn in her hearth knows that she is a lesbian in denial. Wake up!
There is evidence that man is unnatural: there are womyn who are designed to not have children, there are womyn who designed to have children (have uterus). But in males there are only males who are designed to not have childern (don’t have uterus).
What that means? Man is an error in nature.
Join our fight here, we actually make a difference, to break down the patriarchy:
http://radicalhub.com/
We are the only hope, and especially don’t believe in liberal males or those who claim that the are feminist, they are just like those pathethic beta males inthe friend zone who pose as friend, when in reality always want rape.
punchdrunk
July 22, 2012 at 8:51 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
No. You’re both completely wrong and entirely hateful.
(this blog gets the weirdest trolls and hate group representatives)
Mike Kuester
July 22, 2012 at 11:02 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Guess you never got raped or thrown acid in your face manimal scum. Why do you dny your nature? It is in your nature, don’t deny it. We have a plan, but I promise to all those men who voluntarily let themselves castrated or euthanised (nitrogen filled room is painless) to go unharmed, they won’t feel pain. This is the only way. It is like when we help a region by destroying invasive and not native species there to help the originals thrive. Why are you so selfish? Can’t you see what harm you done to us? I have met a few reasonable of your kind, they expressed their regret to be born males, and said they would comply, very few, almost just a dozen but if they can do it, you too.
Mac
July 22, 2012 at 11:14 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I am a gay man and I am sick of the new feminst movement and tired of being called priveldge when I am lacking 1700 state and federal rights and am the most beaten, killed and discriminated minority in America yet I ” am Priveldged” ? The LGBT community is done with the feminsit movement.
Mike Kuester
July 24, 2012 at 5:40 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
You are the lowest life form on earth, ther is no such thing as lgbt, this is a mysognist word. Let me explain to you why you are the ones who are most womyn hater among men, and why all womyn (also lesbians) despise you. You see MRAs, male chuvinists and liberals have a misguided, perverted adn degrading view of womyn, but despite their natural opressiveness and agression, even they can’t deny our superiority and our most important invention: creating new life, wich they are incapable of, they work hard to hide this, but down there they know that they are ultimatle y inferioir to us.
However you faggots in your mysognistic attempt to downplay women criticar, primal, emotional and intelligence superiority, you claim to be just attracted to men, and try to displace us an unnecessry “things”. Yes I was able to write this down, but right nmow I just want to SPIT YOU IN THE FACE, that so how dusgusted by you! You reject and attack everything that is feminine!
One last thing. DON’T YOU EVER EVER DARE TO SPEAK IN THE NAME OF LESBIANS AGAIN NEVER DARE YOU MYSOGNIST SCUM BASTARD! This lgbt word is just another attempt to lump womyn a men togeather and say, “hey we work togeather for a common goal” Not going to happen! You just try to infiltrate and destroy the sisterhood from within you are worse then the MRAs who do it from the outside, they are esier to identify and took care of. But the wortless slime like is what desacrate the very name LESBIAN and FEMINISM.
Remember the lesson:
gay = fail to be men enough cowards (even tough the “being men enough” is being opressive and agressive) who by their frustration and weakness hate all womyn.
lesbian = more empathycally, emotionally superior beings, who realised how degrading and backward is the current society for womyn, and want to establish a better world, based on love and piece.
And I guarantee that in an all lesbian feminist world the well-fares and well-beings will skyrocket instantly, no more suffering.
And don’t think I am an idiot I don’t always follow grammer when somethings make make me very angry.
AllowedtoLove
August 19, 2012 at 10:49 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Although I find it depressing that you would want to lump Feminism with misandry just because one troll/misandrist posted bull on a website (something that would be just like Mike’s act of steering clear of men just because one or a few did terrible acts to him/her) I must say that I guess you’re opinion cannot be swayed. Just remember this though: as cliche as NAFALTism is, it still rings true.
Mike Kuester
July 22, 2012 at 11:30 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Proof that every heterosexual womyn in a relationship is a sex slave:
http://scumorama.wordpress.com/
Proof that womyn are naturally incapable (this doesn’t mean we have some kind of wrong in us, this means that YOU are an error of nature) to enjoy sex with males = males are unnatural.
http://factcheckme.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/bad-sense/
http://factcheckme.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/pink1.png
Why conventional pergnancy is slavery and unnatural:
http://scumorama.wordpress.com/2012/07/03/finding-the-plot/
Why prostitution (marrige is also prostitution) is paid rape.
http://radicalhub.com/2012/04/21/listen-up/
Luna_the_cat
July 23, 2012 at 1:45 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
As a troll, you are successful. As a reasonable human being, you utterly fail. Which one is your actual goal?
If it’s just being a troll, as I suspect, then I would encourage that you be banned, because there are enough trolls on the internet that you need not be guaranteed any forum.
Mike Kuester
July 24, 2012 at 12:09 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Sometimes the truth is so shocking, first people deny it, then they ridicule it, then down play it, then starting to inspect it, finally after enough time spent, they realize it is the truth. This was with the holocaust and gulag camps too (needless to say they were done by men). You will realize the truth (if you are a womyn of course) on day, that day has not come yet, but I hope in the name of the world’s dignity, happiness and freedom that you will realize it some day.
The first step should be to not use personal attack and the most overused catch prase “you are a troll”.
AllowedtoLove
August 19, 2012 at 10:44 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Dude, whether you’re a troll or not (You probably are, considering your name), your bullshit is just so appalling. I’m a Feminist and even I don’t harbor such feelings towards men; I think you need to steer clear of those misandric websites and such to be able to strive towards true equality and peace among the genders.
How do I know? I had the misfortune of being just like you: seething with hate from reading so much MRM and chauvinistic bullshit, I held the same belief that all men were supremacist pigs and that this world was set up against women. Then I discovered the wrong kind of Feminism, the Feminism that the pathetic media and extreme Republicans try to paint us all as and a patriarchal-type society would most definitely hate: a bunch of hairy-pit misandrists that want to destroy the natural ordeer of things like gender roles and pregnancy. With that came my paranoid distrust and fear of men.
Then, when I turned 17, I had the greatest luck thrown at me: meeting Feminists. I met Feminists that weren’t afraid to show a little male-love. I met Feminists that could say sex with men isn’t rape and is actually mind-blowingly awesome. I met Feminists who could hate gay misogynists and hate homophobia because some of them are gay/bisexual. The Feminists I know and talk with hate racism- even though the same race they try to help decry the movement- as much as misogyny. The Feminists I know could talk about how more women are victims of rape without ignoring the male victims and could say that the domestic violence laws should be more fair towards men without going into the whole “everything masculists say are lies” propaganda. Hell, some of the Feminists are MEN, one of the biggest reasons why I was able to let go of my misandric mstrust and stort male-loving again and even make plans on helping my brothers in this country once I graduate college and gain more Feminist knowledge.
What I am saying is that if I could do such a thing and change my way of thinking, you should, too. For the sake of Feminism and all its gender relations peace.
If you need a little push, here is something for you; http://www.fanpop.com/spots/feminism It’s actually a website for fans to have fun in, but this particular group take part in serious discussions about gender issues.
Jess
July 24, 2012 at 1:47 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@ Mike
“And don’t think I am an idiot I don’t always follow grammer when somethings make make me very angry.”
It’s not the grammer that makes you out to be an idiot.
Mike Kuester
July 24, 2012 at 2:59 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
So whats wrong with feminist leading the world, and controlling male population? Would have you chosen the nazis in ww2?
Jess
July 24, 2012 at 8:35 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Oh my, you can gather a lot about someones entire views and personality from one ittie bittie sentence. That’s some talent you have there!
Someguy
July 26, 2012 at 1:49 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
“we never stop loving men”- you surely do jest right?
John Merser
August 2, 2012 at 10:28 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
If offending men were given the same acid bath this practice would stop over night. Everyone is commenting, but no one is doing anything. Words are easy they require no risk or commitment and you can get back to your TV programs almost immediately. That’s all we have here …. words.
Brandon Teague
August 29, 2012 at 10:00 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Please read comment no.58, with an open mind.
keshav Raj Gaire
August 26, 2012 at 6:19 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Dear Wrieter and comentor,
i had not enoughtime to read your comments though, i wish to say:
when the cause and condition fulfill things just happen either from this life or past. it is not the country where you are saying…
Have you forgotten how the people were treated about a century or a bit an Half century ago e.g India, China or in Russia or any other country… was ruled by British, other and what a US producing even now a days you know… guns bluets bomb and so on are they doing every things good ? is it ok ?
Are all Indian or Nepali or people living all these mention countries bad ? don’t mix up with them all please.
Buddha was burn in Nepal ( Lumbini lies now ).so saying or writing something before think with cool mind what u are doing.
Act as you expect as from others.
with best regards,
keshav.
Brandon Teague
August 29, 2012 at 9:52 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Martyrs and Readers,
You women who may never know my name, or that I even exist, I want you to know, you are all so beautiful. I read some of your stories, and saw all of the photos. Some of these photographs have a woman who has been tortured beyond imagination, but still can smile, or is fighting for what is right! I am a nine-teen year old man in the United States, I do not know what I can do for any of you at this moment. I am not wealthy, I do not have high status among man, nor do I have a great platform in this world. I am Christian, and I do pray, I will start praying for you all, as I just have done. There was a comment above saying that “Thats all we have here… words.” -John Merser. Words are powerful, and many actions can only spring from words. These men deserve justice (execution, life servitude to the government [if only the governments cared]), not torture. It is unjust to subject one to inhuman torture, especially when you yourself know what it is like. This whole blog is about these women who declare “…we never stop loving…”.
-To Ms. Taslima Nasreen,
If you are a believer or if you are not a believer I would be glad if you contact me. I would be more than willing to hear any needs that my church and I can pray for. I would also be interested in trying to spread any and all word that I can to let people know. Perhaps, by a few simple words, a great many lives can be changed.
Matt
September 1, 2012 at 10:52 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
This is a disgraceful feminist article that is just horrendously sexist and anti male.99.9999% of men would never consider doing anything like this and to try and pass off your own views as those of women in general is disgusting and arrogant, badly researched and stupid.
scott kevinhuard
September 12, 2012 at 7:17 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Seems like the problem is….Men….
Not the women….
So sad…
WTF
September 15, 2012 at 1:14 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Why don’t they just throw acid on the attackers as well…
Madeline
September 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
The cause for the increase in radical misandry, I.e., promoting GENDERCIDE of male species as solution to male violence, etc., is due to the Thousands upon thousands of Years that horrendous gross human rights abuses against women have been Trivialized, Excused or out right ignored or supported,
As we have seen the continued perpetuation of such behaviors by some posters here.
There is no peace without justice. it simply does not work that way, if you fill a plot of land with toxic dumping you cannot expect to have good farming soil within a few years…or if you fill a plot of land with landlines, etc. This is what it means by the term DESOLATION, which the Bible, interestingly enough, looking at the analogy used in Ancient times, is equated with none other than the Serpent, Satan, or the Destroyer. the analogy simply refers or points to the Physics FACT that when societies, or systems, or a group of individuals or a class, etc., under a myriad of justifications, usually supremacy and hatred, entitlements and pure Evil Selfishness, the NecroPhallic Death worship and when they are Allowed, with impunity to maim, rape, kill and destroy, the cause the final DESOLATION and DESTRUCTION of ALL life. this begins with a Spiritual
Death and Ends with the Physics, death of the earth, species and humans. it is the final end of the beast, destroyer.
and yes, when the destroyer spirit is allowed to reign with not only impunity but with adoration and praise, the women, life sources, Will turn and devour and eat their own, or young. it’s the equivalent of a human body starved, it will turn and eat itself. THis is the process of DEATH, the final annihilation. this is Why you see in these extreme misogynist life source hating societies with their death gods, be they gods or idols of gold, silver, pyramids and systems, etc., the eventual turning that love of death and hate, towards the SONS as well, the end result, after all other life forms are desolate and unable to create or nurture life, the Energy required to feed the beast death destroyer has to have something to consume, once the Females, animals, planet are no longer energy sustaining for the destroyer beast, that beast will then turn and consume its own kind, male. young males first, weaker males, then each other. the destroyer turns males into female effigies, for it’s meal.
it cannot be undone without seeing the destroyer and beast for what it is, and it is not just within systems, it is within, like a cancer, it spreads and invades. it’s only been curbed due to other beast forms fighting FOT survival, but the global time has assimilated the world into the destroyer phallic nurture hating world, the Beast, the HEX, 666, an organis, death energy force, that lives by destruction of its meals,
It hates women, because women were the carriers of the LIFE CREATIVE FORCES of this planet, before it was invaded and colonized, by Whom? that’s up for theory, but the evidence, of billions of years, is clear. the MRAs and Misandrisrts, the Misogynists and the Internalized misogynists, those “fun phallic worshipping feminists” who don’t want harm done to them but are complicit and Judas trailers to other women when harms are done to them, etc., which has a lot to do with the Beasts other weapons, racism, classism and supremacy entitlements, caste, etc., are already assimilated into the Black Box Borg, the same black box the ancient beings, in relief art to huge statutes, of old…what is known as gods, or fallen ones, who know, without a time machine, but oddly, black boxes used on planes to record in case of accidents, crashes, etc., what the ancients termed as Pandoras Box,
Has assimilated, most, and the proof evident, is here you have young CHILD women, mostly, being horrifically harmed, disfigured and rendered pretty much incapable of survival, or intimacy, love, etc., being trivialized in blatant indifference to defer to the egos and bruised pride of many males here, the perpetuating of casting off LIFE for the EGO worship of the internal BEAST, and the result will end with the growth of the cancerous DEATH DESTROYER, that will eventually nihilate us All. the earths rivers turn blood red, she, the LIFE FORCE of us all, the waters that make up 70percent of our bodies, that we MUST HAVE to live, SHE is turning BLOOD RED around the world, oceans fish dying in the THOUSANDS, SHE is bleeding DEATH,
OUR DEATH
The rivers cry out in travail, the bodies of MILLIONS of females throughg out time, dumped in rivers, the bodies of INNOCENTS, dumped into the plot of land, our EARTH, by those who worship the phallic death BEAST, the BLOOD is rising, the desolation is here. it will do no good to Justify your misogyny sir, or excuse your indifference, rationale, will do no good now,
The EARTH has answered, GUILTY, and the Destroyer is here…it’s now only a matter of time. And the thing is,
Don’t blame God or gods or those people or that people, look in the Mirror, Sir, and many MADAMES, there I’d your Destroyer,
The Beast.
jessy
September 23, 2012 at 5:36 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Bitch, you be crazy.
Luna_the_cat
September 25, 2012 at 2:11 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Oh yay, gendered slurs. Classy.
jessy
September 25, 2012 at 11:57 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Gender slurs by a female. Whats that? Didnt think i was a woman? What about the gender slurs against the male population? The slurs that are so generalised they include my amazingly loving husband and adorable, loving and caring 3 year old son. So yea, bitch, you and the whole biased and findamental feminist movement be crazy. Fuck you and fuck your opinions.
Luna_the_cat
September 26, 2012 at 3:46 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I didn’t think you weren’t a woman. I just think you aren’t very smart. OR very classy.
If you were capable of reading comprehension, you might have some clue what the entire piece is about: an international issue where there are men feel entitled to punish women by hurting them badly, and this culturally accepted and not punished. Nowhere in this does this attempt to say “ALL men are monsters.” It certainly says nothing about your husband or brothers, which is a complete fail on your part. It says “there are men which are monsters, and yet women stand by them.”
I gather that this might be too complicated for you to understand. I do, however, have to wonder at what kind of mind decides to come in and throw nasty insults at their own gender, just for the hell of it. It does make me wonder what your reaction would be if it *were* your brother hurting a woman. Would you be standing there saying “bitch deserved it”?
Honestly, you should try reading for comprehension, at the very least. I wonder what you think you are doing here, or getting out of this.
jessy
September 30, 2012 at 6:17 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Actually, the generlisation drips from the article, with phrases such as ‘men’ and ‘our[females]‘. She could have used ‘these men’ or ‘some men’, but no, she went with ‘us v them’[females v males]. That is a generalisation. One which includes my boys.
My brother had a girlfriend who was not nice. She was whiny and self involved and refused to take part in family activities that we tried to include her in whoch she repaid by trying to start arguments amongst the family, she was verbally abusive to my parents. Basically, she was a bitch. But when my brother booted her in the back while she was sleeping me and the rest of my family immeriately jumped to her defense to point of going to court. See, i believe in equality of the sexes not just womens rights but all rights. Some women can and have been just as bad, sometimes worse, than some men and yet i bet you would be one of the first, along with myself, to object to such stereotyping and the consequences thereof. There are such things as bad people. But not all people are bad.
Trish
November 3, 2012 at 7:29 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Well, this makes me want to bear arms and shoot every son of a ______, who does this to another human. Disgusting whoever they are, male, female of half way in between and whatever religion they happen to be. Hopefully Karma will prevail. If anyone did this to a member of my family i could not stand by and do nothing and I am not usually a violent person. Treat other people as you would want t be treated.
georgia fontana
November 16, 2012 at 11:01 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I would like to share your stories but you have no SHARE button on your stories. That makes it impossible to share
Enna
November 26, 2012 at 11:40 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
it is really sad to see how these pretty faces melted down…won’t live their lives as they did… the acid should be banned in markets! i believe men who have brought up in a family where abuse is in their routine are more likely to hurt others.. such people must be counseled and separated in a prison where psychotic patients are treated!!! a lifetime prison or hang them to death!!
God Bless these women
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December 4, 2012 at 5:34 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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Interested
December 13, 2012 at 9:25 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
It seems interesting to me that people would use these horrible acts as a tool. The writer seems to have trouble checking her dislike of men when writing. She uses the general word “men” in the title of her article, without apology. She uses it as if all men are to blame, but quickly posts a reply to defend the Muslims when she feels people are generalizing them. Taslima, better cover up, your bias is showing.
Amber
December 30, 2012 at 7:19 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Although I can see where you’re coming from, it would only make sense for someone exposed to these sorts of hate crimes to in turn feel biased. Knowing women who were victimized (or being the victim) of this horrible act, as you said yourself, takes a toll.
Nearly every person that I love (both man and woman) has been raped by a man. Nearly all of 2010, I was having panic attacks at the mere sight of a man I did not know. The terrible act of rape had become associated with men. I knew that women could rape. I knew that not all men rape. But in my mind, every man was a threat. I still have days where I’m especially anxious in public. I’m not a victim-shamer, but it’s changed the way I dress, the times I feel comfortable being outside, the situations I allow myself into, the choice of whether or not to partake in alcohol, even affected my weight. Seeing and being wracked by these horrors have most definitely changed my life and my views.
We can argue that it’s not fair to innocent men for women to feel this way, but it’s a reflexive habit of self conservation, not an attempt at male destruction. It’s the best that they can do, until they’re offered an opportunity to truly heal.
But if you need a woman to apologize, then well, I’m sorry that you were worried that someone who read this article would take it so literally as to believe that ALL men throw acid on women. Kind of a leap, in my opinion. But hey, for the sake of semantics, right?
Good day.
DHANASHREE
December 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
MY GOODNESS,MY HEART IS BLEEDING TO SEE THIS.
ITS HEART BREAKING TO SEE YOUNG INNOCENT GIRLS FALLING VICTIMS OF SUCH PSYCHOS.,PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE SOME KIND OF MENTAL DISORDER,THEY CAN’T ACCEPT REJECTION…AND BECOME SO MALICIOUS….THE LAX LAWS AND PUNITIVE MEASURES OF OUR COUNTRY ENCOURAGES SUCH ACTS,IT IS A FELONY,AND SEVERE PUNISHMENT IS A MUST FOR SUCH A GRIM ACT.
Amber
December 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I was able to hold back tears until it told of the 13 year old in Zambia. That’s when it really hit me. The older sister had to remove the mass of dead tongue that had peeled off. The older sister, who was likely still a young girl herself. That made it personal. I pictured my little sister in a hospital bed. I’m from the US, but it can happen here as easily as it can happen anywhere else. I just wish that there was something that I could do. How do you change the mentality of so many people, stop this belief that you reserve the right to hurt someone that way? It’s disgusting. Assault of any sort is awful, but the women that survive have to wear it for the rest of their lives. Those blinded are almost better off in a sense, because the act of seeing the way your assailant has defiled your body seems about equal to the torture of having to have the skin removed every single day, if you can even afford the treatment. I’m just numb from this all. There needs to be a change.
rajat
January 4, 2013 at 3:59 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
this women are really brave women now i respect more 2 women.. who eever did this to this women if gna get ssame then they will understand fuck man i wish i get a chance to deal with those mans … this is a love i wish if i wud hve got a love then i wud hve felt so lucky and wud hve felt like i hve very precious love wud hve felt pain to even if pinch her but this mans evn they got love thn also they did this omg i wish those mans dies painfully
namae nanka
January 6, 2013 at 9:57 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Let us now take the crime of violent assault with attempt to do bodily injury. The following cases will serve as illustrative examples:—From The News of the World, 9th May 1909: A nurse in Belfast sued her lost swain for breach of promise. She obtained £100 damages although it was admitted by her counsel that she had thrown vitriol over the defendant, thereby injuring him, and the defendant had not prosecuted her! Also it was admitted that she had been “carrying on” with another man. From The Morning Leader of 8th July 1905 I have taken the following extraordinary facts as to the varied punishment awarded in cases of vitriol-throwing: That of a woman who threw vitriol over a sergeant at Aldershot, and was sentenced to six months’ imprisonment without hard labour while a man who threw it over a woman at Portsmouth was tried and convicted at the Hants Assizes, on 7th July 1905, and sentenced by Mr Justice Bigham to twelve years’ penal servitude!
As regards the first case it will be observed that, (notwithstanding a crime, which in the case of a man was described by the judge as “cowardly and vile” and meriting twelve years’ penal servitude) the woman was rewarded by damages for £100, to be obtained from the very victim whom she had done her best to maim for life (besides being unfaithful to him) and who had generously abstained from prosecuting.
- excerpted from The Fraud of Feminism 1913
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Fraud_of_Feminism/Chapter_4
Umar Khan
January 7, 2013 at 4:46 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Two cents from a Pakistani guy
I was googling some random stuff because I have a lot of time to kill and somehow I ended up on this page. I am a Pakistani guy 25 years old. I live in Germany but most of my life I grew up in Pakistan. After having introduced myself, I feel deeply ashamed as a Pakistani man. Exceptions apart, the way general public think about women and the way they objectify them (educated youth is an exception but there are some occasional assholes in youth too), it just makes me puke. The kind of stuff they pull off with women and go unpunished frightens me. I wish I could do something to make things better and I do discuss with people but most of the time I get hostile remarks because they think I am some modernized west idealizing bloke who just does not like his native culture and the surprising thing is that, I have even been dissed by most Pakistani women when I talked to them about emancipation. This acid throwing stuff is quite extreme and does not happen very often and only people who are crazy enough to not think of the consequences pull this kind of stuff off but what makes me nauseous is the filth-ridden way of thinking even the common man has but which normally does not comes out because this average man has no balls (again exceptions apart, I have met some really nice respectful to women people too and I hope you people may have met such Pakistanis also).
P.S. The way I rambled on like this is because I believe for a change, it is vital that Pakistani men start taking responsibility because if a considerable chunk of population feels guilty as if they did this crime themselves, the better would be the reaction against such crimes and every Pakistani man who even has even a slight inclination of doing such a crime should stay scared.
I am sorry if the level of my English is sub par because I am mostly speaking German and I sometimes feel my self at a loss of just the right words to express myself.
Tuomas
January 18, 2013 at 2:40 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
One global organization that is pushing for gender equality and women’s rights is UN Women (http://www.unwomen.org/. Reducing violence against women is one key priority at UN Women.
Comment threads are good, concrete support is is even better. Make your actions count.
Stefanie
February 6, 2013 at 4:22 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Thank you for sharing this story.
zubair
February 11, 2013 at 2:53 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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zubair
February 11, 2013 at 2:59 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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ALLI
February 21, 2013 at 1:50 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I must be so ignorant, I live in Canada and I have never seen such a horrible thing. I wonder how someone could do this to another human being. How were these monsters raised? I could never ever EVER fathom even imagining throwing acid in someone’s face. There must truly be a force of evil in the world. I hope one day women will no longer be oppressed in these disgusting backwards cultures.
Luscinia Hâfez
April 4, 2013 at 2:07 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
This wouldn’t happen if humans evolved from birds.
Thisisbullshit
May 12, 2013 at 5:45 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
Think guys just do this shit for no reason, ladies? Maybe he took a lot of stupid shit from dumb broads his whole life and finally couldn’t take anymore of her stupidity and finally decided to try and teach her a lesson but you can’t teach something unintelligent a lesson, they won’t learn, they’ll just stand there looking at you all stupid-like, or worse they’ll turn all rebel on you.
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July 16, 2012 at 11:13 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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July 16, 2012 at 11:15 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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July 16, 2012 at 11:17 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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July 16, 2012 at 11:57 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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July 16, 2012 at 11:59 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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Acid in the face | Butterflies and Wheels
July 17, 2012 at 4:16 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
[...] sure you don’t miss Taslima’s post on acid attacks on women – unless you can’t stand it: warning: it is horrific; the pictures are [...]
Another one - Queereka
July 18, 2012 at 5:22 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
[...] regimes when I was reading about the woman publically executed by the Taliban last week, or the heartbreaking post [DISTURBING IMAGE WARNING] Taslima put up on No Country for Women about one of the popular [...]
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July 19, 2012 at 9:57 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
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July 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
[...] I’ve actually looked at photo’s. The excellent Taslima Nasrin has written a sobering post about women being attacked with acid. Warning: the post contains graphic images, so brace [...]
Burning Her Face Off « Canadian Heathen
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How feminism has duped us « Jordan Trudgett
August 4, 2012 at 1:53 am (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
[...] of donations from) the female victims, who are of course, more important. Taslima Nasreen’s blog on acid attacks is specifically focused on men as the perpetrators and women as the victim, ignoring the 30% of [...]
Groupthinkblogs + Feminism « Jordan Trudgett
August 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
[...] brings me back to FtB. Taslima’s acid attacks piece is exemplary of this. The final words, We are more abused, harassed, exploited, kidnapped, [...]
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