That’s what it looked like to me – but I have no inside info.
Stevarious, Public Health Problemsays
I’m not reading your bullshit misogynistic comments in the UK, am I?
For that matter, 90% of the people who use that defense aren’t in or from the UK either. Most people from the UK a polite enough to realize words have different meanings in different cultures and to use appropriate words in appropriate circumstances. It’s almost always Americans who insist that whatever speech patterns a person grew up with should be good enough for everybody regardless of context.
I’d say what I think of the issue, but I can’t even think of what to say (“Better to be thought a…” etc.).
G Wilsonsays
“In the UK”…what, exactly?
I’m sitting in the middle of the UK right now, where I’ve lived for much of my life, and I can assure doubters that “cunt” is a a misogynistic slur here, too. A word for someone that’s devalued, kind-of a cousin of “slag”.
I have no idea where any myth to the contrary has come from.
Stacysays
@G Wilson #9
I’m sitting in the middle of the UK right now, where I’ve lived for much of my life, and I can assure doubters that “cunt” is a a misogynistic slur here, too. A word for someone that’s devalued, kind-of a cousin of “slag”.
I have no idea where any myth to the contrary has come from
Decades ago, I lived for a few months in a small town in Scotland. My (working class, uneducated) boyfriend used the word liberally. He always used it to refer to men, and not necessarily in a disparaging way. For him and his mates, it was basically a synonym for “guy” (or, these days in the U.S., “dude”.)
I’m sure if I’d asked him to he’d have stopped using the word in my presence, and done so with grace. He was a good person.
Ricky Gervais isn’t speaking mainly to small-town working class cronies. It can’t be that fucking difficult to understand that yes, the word has misogynist roots and is used in a misogynist way throughout the English-speaking world (including much of the UK.)
Since he’s obviously not a stupid man, I can only conclude that he doesn’t care. Hey, it’s just misogyny–showing casual contempt for women is an easy way to get a laugh. Some shitstains will even laud you as edgy and brave for it.
Smokey Dustysays
As a service to the forum l will assure it with 100% certainty that it is the Sydney Opera House and the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
Damned if I get the joke though.
Maybe someone thought it was the UK because of the Union Jack in the corner of the Australian (national) and New South Wales (state) flags atop bridge.
Or maybe they’re pointing out Australians tend use the word to describe very objectionable men too.
Omar Puhleezsays
To call a man a ‘cunt’ is a serious insult, meaning that in the speaker’s view, he is of the lowest and meanest type. A dangerous thing to say, depending on the company and whether or not the speaker is looking for a more-than-verbal fight.
To call some bloke a ‘prick’ on the other hand means that in the speaker’s view his is a bit of a fool. Nothing worse
Anyway, that’s how it is here in Australia.
Atheistiasays
Not sure what any of this has to do with Mutavore…or Australia…or, well, Kaiju in general?
I mean, I don’t really know about this – correct me if I’m wrong – but I think that in Australia, i.e. the place that Kaiju is destroying, and possibly also in Scotland, “ya cunt” is practically a term of endearment.
Basically, I’m not completely sure this is an argument worth getting the flare guns out for.
Pen says
But in France…
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar says
I’m watching that movie right now. Isn’t that Australia? Sydney Opera House in the bottom left-hand corner?
Ophelia Benson says
That’s what it looked like to me – but I have no inside info.
Stevarious, Public Health Problem says
I’m not reading your bullshit misogynistic comments in the UK, am I?
For that matter, 90% of the people who use that defense aren’t in or from the UK either. Most people from the UK a polite enough to realize words have different meanings in different cultures and to use appropriate words in appropriate circumstances. It’s almost always Americans who insist that whatever speech patterns a person grew up with should be good enough for everybody regardless of context.
Ophelia Benson says
You get that 90% from where exactly?
Blanche Quizno says
*le sigh* I don’t get the joke (from the illustration) 🙁
Stevarious, Public Health Problem says
Hmm, good point. Personal experience, I spose. Which I suppose is synonymous with ‘pulled out of my butt’.
left0ver1under says
A similar story is raising hackles elsewhere:
http://www.outsports.com/2014/5/7/5691746/gay-rugby-slur-australia-matthew-mitcham
I’d say what I think of the issue, but I can’t even think of what to say (“Better to be thought a…” etc.).
G Wilson says
“In the UK”…what, exactly?
I’m sitting in the middle of the UK right now, where I’ve lived for much of my life, and I can assure doubters that “cunt” is a a misogynistic slur here, too. A word for someone that’s devalued, kind-of a cousin of “slag”.
I have no idea where any myth to the contrary has come from.
Stacy says
@G Wilson #9
Decades ago, I lived for a few months in a small town in Scotland. My (working class, uneducated) boyfriend used the word liberally. He always used it to refer to men, and not necessarily in a disparaging way. For him and his mates, it was basically a synonym for “guy” (or, these days in the U.S., “dude”.)
I’m sure if I’d asked him to he’d have stopped using the word in my presence, and done so with grace. He was a good person.
Ricky Gervais isn’t speaking mainly to small-town working class cronies. It can’t be that fucking difficult to understand that yes, the word has misogynist roots and is used in a misogynist way throughout the English-speaking world (including much of the UK.)
Since he’s obviously not a stupid man, I can only conclude that he doesn’t care. Hey, it’s just misogyny–showing casual contempt for women is an easy way to get a laugh. Some shitstains will even laud you as edgy and brave for it.
Smokey Dusty says
As a service to the forum l will assure it with 100% certainty that it is the Sydney Opera House and the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
Damned if I get the joke though.
Maybe someone thought it was the UK because of the Union Jack in the corner of the Australian (national) and New South Wales (state) flags atop bridge.
Or maybe they’re pointing out Australians tend use the word to describe very objectionable men too.
Omar Puhleez says
To call a man a ‘cunt’ is a serious insult, meaning that in the speaker’s view, he is of the lowest and meanest type. A dangerous thing to say, depending on the company and whether or not the speaker is looking for a more-than-verbal fight.
To call some bloke a ‘prick’ on the other hand means that in the speaker’s view his is a bit of a fool. Nothing worse
Anyway, that’s how it is here in Australia.
Atheistia says
Not sure what any of this has to do with Mutavore…or Australia…or, well, Kaiju in general?
I mean, I don’t really know about this – correct me if I’m wrong – but I think that in Australia, i.e. the place that Kaiju is destroying, and possibly also in Scotland, “ya cunt” is practically a term of endearment.
Basically, I’m not completely sure this is an argument worth getting the flare guns out for.