Caroline Matas attended an Answers in Genesis conference, and was chilled by what she saw. She was the only one wearing a mask, and was most concerned with why American evangelicals have so much contempt for modern science and medicine. I think Ken Ham delivered the answer.
Secular scientists might claim that they allow observation and replicable experimentation to dictate their conclusions, but Answers in Genesis argues that scientists are deluding themselves about their true “starting point.”
Ham famously argues that there are only two religions—conservative Christianity based on a literal and univocal reading of God’s word and secular humanism derived from “man’s word.” At this week’s conference, he went a step further, claiming that secular scientists cannot claim a “neutral position,” because any worldview that is not actively in service of his version of orthodox Christianity is “hostile” to God and “desperately wicked” in its thinking.
“If it’s not for Christ, it’s against,” Ham told a cheering audience.
Well then, count me in as against Christ. I think there are a lot of Christians out there who don’t accept Ham’s narrow-minded, pig-ignorant view of their faith, and are going to be surprised to learn that they are against Christ, but OK. It’s nice for us atheists to have abruptly become the majority.
However, this also reminds me of the time I was paired up to present at a humanist meeting with David Silverman. His message was that everyone there was actually an atheist — every Christian humanist, every Jewish humanist, every agnostic, every one who still went to church but thought god was a more complex concept than an anthropomorphic old guy in the sky, even deists like Thomas Jefferson — if you didn’t subscribe to an orthodox, literal-minded version of your religion, you were an atheist, and you should admit it to yourself and everyone else. It did not go over well. There was much eye-rolling and head-shaking in the audience, and I had to amend my talk on the fly to explain that I did not endorse Silverman’s views.
I think David and Ken would have gotten along famously. They have exactly the same sentiments about religion.
The terrible thing about this perspective is that as soon as you make everything us-vs.-them, you’ve got a tool to shoehorn everyone into opposing camps on every issue. It doesn’t matter that the Bible says nothing about vaccines — you can tell everyone that you don’t like ’em, and you’re a man of God, therefore anyone who is a true man of God should despise vaccines.
Studying evangelical media has made me keenly aware of how quickly and thoroughly this narrative can be employed to train consumers in the orthodoxy of the moment. What matters is not what happens to fall in its crosshairs: critical race theory, secular humanism, same-sex marriage, vaccine mandates; the fuel running the machine is a belief that this world is split into two “religions”—the “true” one and the “false” one whose aims are unceasingly hostile and evil.
Or, hey, if you are a misogynistic sado-masochist who bullies women and is the former head of a major atheist organization, then every true atheist should be a misogynistic sado-masochist. I think there are a few too many atheists who would go along with that.
mathman85 says
Just wanted to point out something tangential that occurred to me as I was reading this:
If the bible did talk about vaccines thousands of years before the first vaccination was invented, that might be (rather weak, but still) evidence that there’s something weird going on with it. But no, of course, it doesn’t include any information that the people who wrote it would’ve known—exactly what we would expect to see if it were of human rather than divine origin.
mathman85 says
Oh, bloody hell. When I wrote in #1
I meant to write that the bible doesn’t include any information that those who wrote it wouldn’t have known.
birgerjohansson says
OT
“who bullies women…”
Women can avoid attacks by rogue police officers by ‘not existing’, advises Met Police https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/women-can-avoid-attacks-by-rogue-police-officers-by-not-existing-advises-met-police-20211001212670
hemidactylus says
In terms of the theistic-atheistic dichotomy, there is a Manichean yes/no aspect that creationists and firebrand atheists represent. Aside from his troublesome personal issues, Silverman represented that Overton window pushing no-quarter given brand of atheism which goes somewhat too far for me. Creationism, however troublesome the representative, represents the other side of this pure dichotomy.
Within the less Manichean spectrum lies a diversity of viewpoints from theistic evolution through ?-worshiping agnosticism (Nietzsche’s dig) through faitheism and forms of accommodationism, the latter carrying its own negative associations amongst the more confrontational atheists.
After having deconstructed the strong theist vs atheist binary, where many of us probably still push atheism as the intellectually dominant position because…, where does one fall between accommodationism versus the radical firebrandy stuff (despite Silverman having represented that latter position). The position isn’t necessarily the person holding it…genetic fallacy and all that.
monkeysea says
pig-ignorant.
Sounds good, I like it.
It’s just lack of training & experience.
And thumbs. If pigs had thumbs, they’d borrow your car.
John Morales says
hemidactylus:
You are confused. Manichaeism is about good/evil, not about yes/no or dichotomies in general.
birgerjohansson says
“We will liberate the people from the tyranny of the intellect ”
Joseph Göbbels.