Well, gosh, threadketeers, this week we’ve learned that atheist chicks are easy and goth. Easy is, well, easy, but I had to look up how to be goth. Just in case, here’s the answer.
Oh, my…I already liked Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure. I’m almost there!
Tethys says
*reads the Aurora victim’s article*
WTF, Westboro satan worshippers are planning to “super-picket” the memorial in fucking
of the shooter?!I just do not get it. *sobs*
____
Oggie
I have three boxes of PTSD that live in my head.
One is labeled childhood, one is rape, and one is horrific car accident.
I wish they would stay locked, as the demons in the boxes are exceedingly cruel and manipulative. They love to whisper in my ear that I deserve such horrible treatment, while making me relive all the helpless, screaming horror.
It sucks. It sucks even more if people tell me that my reactions are wrong, and I need to deal with those traumas.
I do not want to deal with them. It is so fucking unfair that those things occurred in the first place. Being told that I need to “get over it” now sends me into rage mode.
There is no getting over it. There is no way to make sense of it.
I cannot undo the trauma. I can only try to be the kind nurturing parent to the inner severely hurt me.
Sometimes one of the demons gets out of the box, and I live in dread of what the demon remembers that I have managed to block from my memory. It is a very valid reason to leave the fucking box alone. Nothing good comes out of that box.
huge hugs
*sobs more*
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
A million hugs, Ogvorbis :(
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
Tethys, it has been proposed – and makes sense to me – that the WBC is a money-making IRL troll operation. Offend as grotesquely as possible within the bounds of the law, wait till local govt transgresses a legal right of theirs, or someone punches them. Sue. Ka-ching.
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
And a million more hugs for you too :(
Antiochus Epiphanes says
Og: I have no wisdom, just sympathy.
*shoulder chuck*
Markita: Sadly, no. I just thought it was the best pic/article about Argiope aurantia that I found.
Caine, Fleur du mal says
Ixchel, I mentioned Prazosin because I’ve taken it before. I’m hypnophobic and Oneirophobic and have been since early childhood. I’m chronically sleep deprived and have been since early childhood. I can only sleep under certain circumstances (REM suppression is a must) and I don’t sleep for long periods.
I don’t know what might work for Ogvorbis. Nothing really works fantastically for me, but well enough for me to function. When I ended up getting the scrip for Prazosin, it was some years ago and I was going through a very bad period, I wasn’t being successful with dream suppression and when that happens, I can generally be found, fully asleep, running down the street naked and screaming my head off. Not only is that sort of shit stressful, things like having someone lock me in and all that don’t work. Okay, enough about my fucked-uppedness.
Tethys says
*wallows in pile o’ hugs*
Beatrice says
*sneaks in and adds a couple of million hugs to the pile*
*dumps in some kittens for good measure*
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
If anyone is looking for an intertesting “cookbook” with some good writing, culture and history this is pretty good.
Wild Fermentation: The Flavor, Nutrition, and Craft of Live-Culture Foods
There is a Kindle version too.
There is some slight straying into Woo but also some decent science (yes a combo).
carlie says
Argh. That’s the societal idea that raped = irrevocably broken, and it is NOT TRUE. Lifetime effects yes, but entirely broken, no. If that jerk starts up again, ask him how he explains how the annual suicide rate is nowhere near the annual sexual assault rate. Or just tell him to look up the stats himself and walk off. You don’t need to engage with people like that.
Onion girl – will you post a notice here once the email goes out? That will help those of us who are paranoid about whether we filled out the forms properly to get counted. :)
Also big hugs for Tethys.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says
Markita Lynda:
Anything 12-step-related should be treated with, at best, caution. Those programs are derived from fundie xtianity and are profoundly anti-intellectual.
chigau (女性) says
More *hugs* for Oggie.
(one of your cow orkers is an insensitive git)
Beatrice says
A pet peeve I’ve been reminded of in the Paterno thread:
The saying “there are two sides to every story”.
ChasCPeterson says
I’d say anybody who orks cows is an insensitive git.
Ogvorbis says
I don’t think he’s an insensitive git. He has no idea what happened to me and has no way of knowing. He is an ignorant and uninformed git, but not insensitive.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says
So, okay, this thread about inappropriate come-ons to women is a week old and some of you have seen it already, but, really…
The rest of the thread is even less surprising. Also, Anna Bucci is still a Chill Girl™.
Caine, Fleur du mal says
Anyone know how I would say “humourless about rape” in French?
Beatrice says
qui manque d’humour sur le viol
I don’t know a single word for humourless
Ogvorbis says
Je n’ai aucun sens d’humour en ce qui à violer!
Ing: Gerund of Death says
I was tried and have to rely a lot on spell check and autocorrect…grrrr.
Setár, self-appointed Elf-Sheriff of the FreethoughtBlogs Star Chamber says
Ms. Daisy Cutter #475:
Indeed. In fact, this event combined with the false-balance bit you helped me out with at Ophelia’s caused me to write a post: Politics Is Warfare, or How I Learned The Meaning Of False Balance
More like gaslighting at home, with me attending small-ruralish-suburb schools that had really really fucking apathetic “just ignore it” “
boys will be boyskids will be kids” “they’re just looking for attention” faculty for all but three years.When I moved back to that district at the start of 9th grade and saw how fucking tiny my high school was (it had barely twice as many students as the elementary school I’d attended in grades 6-7), and remembered what hell I’d gone through those past three years triyng to make any friends in the urban district, I decided “fuck this, I’m not going to get anything but more pain from smashing my head against a brick wall trying to get ‘into’ everyone’s friendgroups and failing” and checked out of society, hiding my disproportionate reactions as best I could. (And when they did come out (namely, when I got competitive in gym), it was just more of the same. Even when someone deliberately incited my by fake-masturbating after scoring a goal on me, after it was well-known that getting me competitive and then making me lose was an easy way for me to get mad.)
Setár, self-appointed Elf-Sheriff of the FreethoughtBlogs Star Chamber says
Also, -hugs- and kittens for Ogvorbis.
Ing: Gerund of Death says
Nalbar ryfr abgvpr gung Onar vf onfvpnyyl Rivy Nyserq?
chigau (女性) says
Oggie
I think a sensible person would understand that the chances that someone in the room had similar a experience or knows someone with similar experience are quite high.
Caine, qui manque d’humour sur le viol says
Beatrice & Ogvorbis, thank you!
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~ says
Today’s estate sale find: a pair of sewing shears. Feel like good-quality shears, but the interesting thing about them was that they were engraved with the owner’s name. Not fancy “this is a gift” engraving but utilitarian “marking this with my name” engraving, the kind done with an inexpensive engraving pen in careful cursive. I realized that the only reason to mark one’s shears with one’s name is probably that one is apt to lay one’s shears next to similar shears owned by someone else, meaning, this person was a part of a sewing or quilting circle for a long time.
I asked the people running the estate sale and I was right; the lady in question had quilted and sewn for many many years. She’d lived in Kenya, Nigeria, and Germany in addition to the US and clearly adopted other cultures’ textile traditions into her own work (I saw some of her handwoven pieces). All of that is gone now because she has severe Alzheimer’s. She was there at the sale and her husband and children were minding her closely: telling her when to blow her nose, sitting her down and putting her sandwich in her hands and so on.
I will keep sewing with her shears.
Lynna, OM says
A Moment of Mormon Madness — this one contains instructions for stalking children and for pressuring the parents.
cicely says
Josh: I can’t put down the cane. I’ll fall.
Oh, I see; you mean that I should stop brandishing it in the general vicinity of your…Legumes of Loathsomeness. Easy done.
I don’t want to risk contaminating my cane with them, anyway.
–
*hugs* for Setar. Moral support at at distance may not be much help, but you has it.
–
Wait. Don’t be hasty. Having a safe space to vent in is very helpful. At the very least, venting it here means not keeping it bottled up there, until you explode under pressure. Ogvorbis bits everywhere. I don’t think anyone wants that.
And everybody outside our own heads is, to some degree, a stranger. Heck, to some degree many of us are strangers to ourselves, inside our own heads. That doesn’t make our acquaintanceship here unreal or invalid, any more than acquaintancship in Real Life is unreal or invalid.
And all that stuff carlie said @473.
–
Beatrice says
Caine,
You’re welcome.
Although, INAFS (I’m not a french speaker) so take it with some salt.
cicely says
*hugs* for Tethys.
In fact, *hugs&bacon&chocolate&warmfuzzykittens* for everyone.
And *squids*.
–
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ says
I thought “irradiate” was deliberately vivid, like, dump them into a reactor core.
John Morales says
More warru go wild in South Australian outback
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says
For the textile-history geeks: 600-year-old bra and underpants found in an Austrian castle.
I found this at Ginmar’s LJ. There’s a fascinating comment there about how privilege, here in the sense of being “high-born,” lets you get away with the most amazing (and gross) things.
birgerjohansson says
ixchel,
“dump them into a reactor core”
(flashback to Doctor Who, “The Hand of Fear”)
— — — — — — —
“When the ‘Good Guys’ Rape Too” http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/julie-tomlin/the-good-guys-can-rape-too_b_1692117.html
Ing: Gerund of Death says
Had a brain wave and changed nyme…don’t know if it will stick
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says
Oh, for chrissakes.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ says
birger, never seen it, but that is a seriously cool costume.
Caine, qui manque d’humour sur le viol says
Daisy:
The same as transgender, eh? Hmmm. Now all I can think about is Grrl.
Ing: "Who Are You?" "Skeptic's Reckoning" says
@Ixchel
Costume reminds me of the tree people
Caine, qui manque d’humour sur le viol says
Ixchel:
If I were to imagine you in a costume, it would be this one.
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
Ms. Daisy Cutter, from your link at #36:
emphasis mine
Now, I’m jes’ a lowly amacher, and not one o’ them fancy college edumacated scienticians, but somethin shore do seem a mite #doingitwrong about that.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Well, I can honestly say that Dark Knight Returns is just as good the second time around.
This time, I spotted the Patrick Leahy (yes, that one) cameo. I LOL’d.
Also: tempura sushi. For the win.
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
Every time I see rot13 text, there’s a moment where I think it’s Elvish, or Klingon or something.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ says
Caine,
lawl! “formerly human creature from an extradimensional realm” is right on, but let’s take my costume on pharynguwiki and stick pins in it!
Pteryxx says
(more on military rape) via birgerjohansson’s link above:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/14/culture-coverup-rape-ranks-us-military
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says
Dr. Bunsen: Fuckin’ leading questions, how do they work?
(BTW, did you receive my LJ messages?)
***
Apropos of nothing, I feel a great deal better after having eaten most of an entire head of garlic today, and a freaking huge head of garlic at that. One of those heirloom varietals with pink- and red-streaked skin. I have no idea if it has any proven health benefits beyond those you can get from the regular heads of garlic you get at the supermarket. Maybe it was just quantity.
It also helped that it got warmer and stickier here today. I normally don’t like that kind of weather, but I did stop shivering. Is there any validity to the concept that you can “sweat out” whatever’s afflicting you, or is that just woo? Because it did feel good to sweat today, and usually it just feels gross.
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
kristinc:
♥
ibyea says
@Esteleth
You mean Rises. /pedant
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
drbunsen:
I am not sure of Klingon, but Elvish looks quite distinct from rot13.
For one, it is written using the Tengwar alphabet, not the Latin alphabet (BTW: is anyone surprised that the Pfft has an extensive article on the Tengwar?).
Secondly, even transliterated, it looks quite different.
For example: the last words of Gilaen, Onen i-Estel Edain, ú-chebin estel anim, (“I gave Hope to the Edain, I have kept no hope for myself”) would, if encoded in rot13 from the English translation be V tnir Ubcr gb gur Rqnva, V unir xrcg ab ubcr sbe zlfrys. Which, um. Not the same.
Then, of course, is the fact that “Elvish” is not one language, it is a family of languages, like the Romance languages are a family of languages. The quote above is in Sindarin, for example.
(Sorry, I am a nerd)
(Nan accanóla!
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Ibeya:
*waves hand*
Yes, yes.
(Rise!!!)
ibyea says
Oh, and I watched the Dark Knight Rises with the DC Horde last night. It was a pretty awesome movie. I don’t think it is as good as the Dark Knight, but it is pretty close.
ibyea says
Things I liked a lot of the movie:
a) Even though Alfred appeared only very shortly in this movie, every scene of him was amazing and moving.
b) Anne Hathaway as the Catwoman for me is the official Catwoman. No other Catwoman can or will top this one for me.
c) Bane makes an absolutely terrifying villain.
d) John Blake was a really great original character for Nolan’s Batman universe.
e) The French revolution vibe I felt during Gotham’s siege.
carlie says
Update: perhaps someone may remember aeons ago when I took over the thread with wailings on the lack of decent portable footstools for the perennially short. After all the advice, I got one all calculated out – size, angle of cuts, etc. I waited until I was at my parents’ house for the annual visit so my dad could use the good tools to cut the pieces properly (table saw, circular saw, router…), had to make a few adaptations. Brought them back, two coats of stain, three coats of polyurethane, and finally put it all together tonight…
To find that I hadn’t made an allowance for the width of the folded boards on the backside, since the angle of one requires the hinge to be a half-inch inset instead of at the edge, so at the length I cut them they overlapped. *headdesk*
So I just used a jigsaw (the best tool I had available) to cut a half inch off of each leg piece. Had to do it to both or the angle of cut would be off. And of course it peeled the polyurethane a bit and had a few splinters up into the edges, although not too bad. Sanded hopefully enough to make a straight enough edge to sit well on the ground, re-stained the bottoms, will re-seal tomorrow, and then again, and then again, and hopefully it won’t be too noticeable and will be sealed to the upper edges so the sealant won’t crack, and then I can screw it all back together again. SHEESH. And then hope that at the shorter overall height it still does any good for me at all.
But when it’s done it will be MINE and it will be PERFECT and it had damn well better not break the first time I use it.
Ing: "Who Are You?" "Skeptic's Reckoning" says
Oh did anyone else notice the reference to BTAS?
drbunsen le savant en colère dans une robe d'été belle (la robe est aussi en colère) says
Ms Daisy, yes I did receive your messages on LJ, but I have the attention sp
an of an eight year old. I’m vaguely intimidated by DW for reasons which probably aren’t actual reasons.Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz) says
Why would you do that?
Do you roll around in nettles for fun, too?
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
You know what I want?
An oven that, an hour after I set it to heat to 350 is actually at 350.
A. R says
[Crosspost TZT]
OK, sorry I’ve dropped off the face of the internet for the past week, but I’ve been insanely busy with one of the worst weeks in recent memory. It began with entirely purposeless training and “orientation” and ended with me being transferred from ER to the Neurobehavioral Health Unit (translation, Geriatric Psychiatric Lockdown Unit), which is basically the worst possible transfer for a person trained for ER work. Thankfully, I get to go back to ER on December 16th (I’m counting down the days). Of course, that’s during my Winter break, which is perfect, since I won’t miss the Christmas Eve/Christmas ER jollies. In any case, if I disappear or snap at a troll/particularly annoying regular, you know why now.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ says
Ing, or anybody else who can answer my questions,
is a3kr0n an asshole? what did a3kr0n do?
Markita Lynda—damn climate change! says
It looks as if Improbable Joe needs help.
tim rowledge, Ersatz Haderach says
kristinc –
High quality shears are impressive bits of engineering. We recently inherited an old set from a several-generations-ago family business. They must weight alb or so, which might seem outrageous but they’re very well designed for purpose. The bottom blade is wide and flat so it sits squarely on the cutting table and slide easily. The upper blade is most of the weight, being a very large flat bar rather than the more typical tapered shape. The weight helps with the effort of cutting through thick suit making fabrics; trading effort opening the blades for net effort cutting the cloth. Very interesting design trade-offs.
Another impressive bit of engineering I read recently is from Ed “Two Toruks” Yong’s Not Exactly Rocket Science blog – We took a rat apart and rebuilt it as a jellyfish. Cool stuff.
Ing: "Who Are You?" "Skeptic's Reckoning" says
@Ixchel
He’s in my killfile under asshole
John Morales says
Markita:
Bah.
ibyea says
Oh no, the elections is doomed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wENaZIGP5Y&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=1&feature=plcp
A Republican win is so possible. I am scared.
theophontes (坏蛋) says
@ A.R
Hi A.R !
Rawnaeris says
The Rationalia thread is depressing me, but I can’t seem to stop reading it….
Cipher, OM, Sweetness and Fluff says
Yes. Flounced, then failed to stick the flounce, I think because something something feminism. I forget what exactly hir objection was.
Improbable Joe says
@Markita:
…mostly moral support, unless someone knows Elton John and thinks he can do one more version of “Candle in the Wind” and donate the proceeds to me, my wife, our dog, and the 9-10 cats we’re currently feeding. Otherwise, just the moral support would be great.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Improbable Joe
*loading Words Of Encouragement™ into the USB*
Improbable Joe says
LOL @chigau
At this point, I’ll take what I can get and thanks for it.
Improbable Joe says
Oh, and if you can email me some pizza rolls?
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Improbable Joe
no pizza rolls but I do have rasberries.
thunk, martian atmosphere weaksauce says
Dang! Another general nym change!
ibyea:
Oh great. But Nate Silver still has a 2-1 prob of Obama win.
Caine, qui manque d’humour sur le viol says
Ixchel:
:falls over laughing: I think I prefer to see you as Pinhead, “I’ll tear your soul apart.” Heh.
Improbable Joe says
chigau, do those email well?
Caine, qui manque d’humour sur le viol says
Ixchel:
Yes, they are an asshole. Every post tended to be a stupid one liner, never posted anything of substance. Several feminism/sexism threads back, moaned and whinged about the icky subject and what the fuck was wrong with PZ, couldn’t he post about biology already? Then announced he was a leavin’, because of all the icky wimmin posts, then refused to stick the flounce multiple times.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
I usually picture ॐ as Mr. Universe from Serenity.
{connected to Everything™}
{but with a different ‘bot}
[I meant the above as a compliment. (in case other people’s fantasy worlds are different from mine)]
thunk, martian atmosphere weaksauce says
Chigau:
What’s the parenthetical now?
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Improbable Joe
Actually, my raspberries are best straight into the mouth or freezer.
But I’m sure USB delivery gets rid of potential mold.
Like StarTrek transporters.
Cipher, OM, Sweetness and Fluff says
^_^
Your fantasy world is fun.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
thunk
my current parenthetical = “Make your own sandwich!” (for no particular reason)
You can copy-paste almost anything into gooletranslate and get an approximation of almost anything.
“approximation” is important.
John Morales says
May you receive your just desserts, Joe the Improbable, in spades.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
My back hurts.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Baby skunks are really cute.
(really dark, camera somewhere else…)
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
trust me!
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
This is so tempting…
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB] says
Tethys @1:
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Trigger Warning
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Words cannot express how massively angry I am with the “humans” who comprise WBC. I’m on my phone so I can’t link to it, but an article in the Guardian about the Aurora tragedy mentions that a six year old girl was among those killed. Her mother didn’t find out for two more days.
FUCK the WBC.
For all goddam eternity.
birgerjohansson says
Ixchel, Ing, Eldrad’s outfit looked very similar to the modified mutoid warriors in the arena episode of Blake’s Seven. Of course, both TV series were made by BBC so there was likely some recycling…
— — — —
Those who work the hardest now will get the most meat in their balls
http://www.thelocal.se/41466/20120615/
— — — —
The Onion: Sadly, Nation Knows Exactly How Colorado Shooting’s Aftermath Will Play Out http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/
.
NRA: ‘Please Try To Remember All The Wonderful Things Guns Do For Us Every Day’
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nra-please-try-to-remember-all-the-wonderful-thing,28858/
Yeah, where would we be without massacre-frendly 100 round ammo magazines available at gun fairs.
Wowbagger, Deputy Vice-President (Silencing) says
Loftus has a new post: On the Stupidity and Divisiveness of PZ Myers and His Cadre of Followers; he’s somehow managed to get even more bitter and deranged over the last few weeks, and he sounds like his head is going to literally explode.
birgerjohansson says
“No feminine mystique here: Women’s health care problems glaringly clear” http://scienceblogs.com/thepumphandle/2012/07/20/no-feminine-mystique-here-womens-health-care-problems-glaringly-clear/
Wowbagger, Deputy Vice-President (Silencing) says
Oh, and I came across the spittle-flecked Loftus screed via Jeremy Stangroom; can someone confirm for me that he (Stangroom) is an accomodationist who’s previously castigated PZ and co. for taking a harsh stance against Christians?
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says
Sili, why do you hate on teh garlic? It is awesomely delicious.
John Morales says
Wowbagger,
Ayup, Loftus has lost it, alright.
Ariaflame, BSc, BF, PhD says
I think of it this way. If those are people who think they are our enemies. Then I’m pretty glad to be thought to be not one of them.
I feel obscurely comforted in knowing that if I said anything monumentally stupid that someone here would bring that to my attention, possibly forcefully.
birgerjohansson says
“Public health: Towards a cure for HIV” http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/487293a.html
(The “Berlin patient” is a dead ringer for Dr Tony Hill.)
— — — —
Considering the age of the WBC cult leader. I doubt they will be around for much longer.
— — — —
Does any Brit know if there are any signs of the liberal democrats thowing their party leader under the bus soon?
I mean, if they have any self-preservation instincts left…
And unlike the tories they have not been immersed into “austerity solves everything” since birth.
Giliell, not to be confused with The Borg says
Good morning
So, here’s the full Berlin write-up
It was really, really great to meet David and Jules. Sadly we had to break up early on the second day because #1 was sick. Fortunately she got much better after she puked on the underground platform so we didn’t have to spend the rest of our trip inside.
What was a bit sad was that either my aunt with whom I was staying either became very narrow-minded in the last years or I never realized it before. She always was kind of my icon for being open and cool and everything what really shocked me was when she almost made a remark how children “make up accusations od abuse to get some attention and be interesting”. Fortuantely she didn’t finish it an I was just flabberghasted that she’d fall for such crap (she falls for a lot of crap, like carbohydrates are bad for you and sausages are better if made from chicken).
Maybe I just really grew up lately :(
But here are the promised pictures
Unfortunately, some pests smelled that I was away for a week and infested my tomatoes. Sprayed them and now I’m feeling itchy all over.
Improbable JOe
Put up a tip jar on your blog?
Seriously.
Matt Penfold says
Nope, no sign at all. Probably because Clegg made all the MPs sign up to the coalition policies, so there no MP left who claim any moral high ground.
Louis says
Evenaftermorning all,
I am back at work, lunch in one hand, coffee in the other, typing away at the keyboard. I’ve been in since six a.m., the email backlog is cleared, the reactions are set up, the praise/bollockings have been delivered where appropriate, meetings have been arranged and had and arranged again. Heaven.
Don’t get me wrong but a “holiday” consisting of potty training a recalcitrant three year old who has decided that his new sport is “piss on dada” in a domicile that now smells like a swimming pool, whilst also having to visit in laws and parents to receive equal measure of Lack of Understanding and Pointless Interference has been less relaxing than real work.
Mind you, I did manage to get my son to ask to use the potty for the first time, so I am validated as a human being.
Hugs and grog all round. Chocolate for those that need it.
Louis
John Morales says
Louis:
You want sympathy? Bah.
(You can’t manage a 3-y-o?! You ever heard of contraception? ;) )
(My local as I write this is 2123, FTTW)
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort says
I am tired. I’m mildly hungover. I’m slightly miserable. I just want to go home right now, but I don’t have the hours to do so T^T
Giliell, not to be confused with The Borg says
Louis
My sympathies. I have an almost 3yo who, for some reason unknown to me:
-loves her diaper
-loses control of her bladder as soon as there’s an undie on the butt.
++++
I haz stoopid
Tomorrow we’Re going to celebrate #1’s birthday at the kindergarten which was closed for holidays at the actual date, so I’m making cupcakes. I generously quadrupled the original recipe, only to remember when I had the dough finished that more than half the group left before the holidays for school…
Anybody want a cupcake?
Matt Penfold says
Two things one can never make to much of, cake and roast potatoes.
Louis says
Giliell,
My sympathies, you have them!
My infant is not so much lacking in bladder control (any more, at least THAT hurdle appears to be cleared….ish) as he is completely stubborn! He has decided that he is not to be interrupted, even by his bodily functions, and the soft furnishings be damned.
He was sat by me on the computer the other day and pissed on the chair, which subsequently dribbled into the potty waiting underneath him. I did not know whether to laugh or cry, he can’t master the potty properly and now he’s going for trick shots?! ;-)
If I can take a USB cupcake or two to hand out to the lad when potty training by Evil Dada resumes this evening, I shall be most grateful.
Louis
P.S. No John, I was not looking for sympathy. A mop perhaps, but sympathy, no. I don’t get the local/2123 reference…I has a thick. Sowwy.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort says
And I want olives. Tasty, green, meaty olives.
Maybe some of those little cornichon pickles too.
Louis says
{Sends USB cornichons and green olives to Katherine Lorraine}
Hey Katherine Lorraine,
Hangover? I just got over one (Health kick failed AGAIN, it re-starts tomorrow. Again. For the umpteenth time. I is a bad Louis). Drinking your bodyweight in Guinness? Baaaaaad idea.
You have my sympathies. The fact that hangovers are “self inflicted” is a red herring to me. Hangovers are a serious illness brought on by acute alcohol deficiency. They should be treated with suitable refreshments, drugs, and sympathy.
Louis
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort says
@Louis:
Nah, it was just slightly too much rum added to a rum and coke. You know how it is, you’re pouring the drink and it has that little extra splash? You can’t put it back in the bottle, it’d waste it. Might as well drink it all.
Crap, too much rum.
I probably shouldn’t do hard liquor, now that I think about it – unless I’m very careful. I could end up like a lot of my family did back in ‘the day.’ Alcoholics, all of them. I need to keep to my limits and like a stupid, I break past those limits all the time.
I don’t want to stop, though, because I love the taste of drinks. It’s nothing to do with peer pressure or acceptance. There’s something lovely about a delightfully crisp wit or a hoppy, flowery märzen. There’s nothing better on a somewhat hot fall evening than popping the top of a hard cider.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort says
Of course my saying that, I’m probably just rationalizing.
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz) says
Isn’t that like “I’ll kick the fairies at the bottom of your garden”?
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz) says
Everything in moderation.
Matt Penfold says
There is no such thing when it comes to garlic.
Tethys says
Giliell
Thank you for the pictures. I especially like the dino/dragon skull, and the tiger.
The strange creature on your bag is a ladybug larva.
—-
Thank you to cicely and carlie and Beatrice and Tony and anyone I missed.
I hope we get new thread soon, as I am slightly mortified that my PTSD abuse sharing is 1st post. I do realize that those mortified feelings are a hallmark of the shaming part of abuse. (fucking demon..stfu and get back in the box)
___
Sympathies for toilet training. I found that bribery for successfully using the toilet is helpful. Giving your child their own “potty watch” with the alarm set to go off at appropriate intervals was also a hit. Alarm goes off, time to potty!
Success is rewarded with M&Ms.
Ing: "Who Are You?" "Skeptic's Reckoning" says
Christ Loftus is an asshole. Someone is obsessed and douchy therefore you are wrong. Sound intellect there
birgerjohansson says
Proto-Republicans?
“Not just lone sharks: Social networks under the sea” http://phys.org/news/2012-07-lone-sharks-social-networks-sea.html
It reminds me of the lawyer in “Top Ten”
— — — —
Phages -New recruits in the fight against disease http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-07-disease.html
Sing for the win http://phys.org/news/2012-07-sing-for-the-win.html
stealthily introducing (people) to notation by telling them what they’ve just sung.
Pteryxx says
Tethys: ironically, I use M&Ms to reward my attempts to cope with PTSD. ;>
Louis says
Katherine Lorraine,
We do not use the “A” word. We refer to them as “Barman’s Friends” or “Ethanol Enthusiasts”. ;-)
In all seriousness, I hear ya! Alcohol, like cocaine, World of Warcraft, bacon sandwiches, and copious public masturbation on intercampus buses at North American universities should be taken in moderation. I have made it a rule to never drink before midday.
But then it’s always midday somewhere… ;-)
Louis
P.S. Another line we adults have to walk is the line between puritanical prudery and over indulgence. Ahhh adulthood.
Louis says
Tethys,
I love the alarm idea! I’m going to try that. Thanks very much.
Louis
Tethys says
Pteryxx
M&M’s are yummy, but I have discovered Reisen chocolate caramels.
I rewarded myself with an entire bag of them…oops. But I did make it through an entire family event without getting triggered!
It was even fun!!
Seriously though, I think some of my family finally understands that telling me “You need to get over that trauma.” is not helpful.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB] says
So the consensus:
Garlic, raw carrots-good
Peas, raisins-evil
Amirite?
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cicely:
I just realized the only thing worse than peas is fruitcake…
Giliell, not to be confused with The Borg says
Louis
Do you want chocolate, chocolate chips, almond or strawberry?
Stubborn and uninterested? That’s about it. If I let her rus around with her ass naked she’ll either go and search for a diaper, or she’ll just use the damn potty. If I put anything onto her un-diapered butt she’ll make a puddle.
Trying to put her on the potty at certain intervals is met with such vehement opposition that it’ll only make matters worse (and I’m not willing to “break” her over this)
If she deems a toilet interesting, she’ll run there every other minute.
My hope is that she’ll just grow out of it when she starts kindergarten, being the only kid in diapers there. If that doesn’t work I’ll have to think of something different.
Tethys
Thanx for the info. I’ve never seen them before.
BTW, since I read the newspaper yesterday on the train I know where your nym comes from :)
Nightjar says
No, no, no. Those are all good.
(Damn, you people are picky!)
Louis says
Giliell:
Yes.
Louis
;-)
Tethys says
Louis
You’re welcome! I hope it works for you too.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB] says
Nightjar:
I implore thee, reject the Dark Side before its too late. You need only reject peas and raisins.
Tho if you love pickles too, there’s no hope for you.
(And yes, I’m quite picky an eater;major texture issues)
Beatrice says
Pickles! Yummy.
Louis says
Peas are good. Raisins are lovely. Pickles are divine.
It’s all about context. Peas accompanying classic fish and chips are lovely, peas in a green vegetable risotto I have just freshly made are (and I have no compunction about blowing my own trumpet* here) wonderful, pea puree with a lightly grilled sea bass or Dover sole is delicious, peas are even good with a roast, pea and ham soup as the basis for a pie floater is scrummy.
Oatmeal and raisin cookies are nice, raisins in my erstwhile grandmother’s steamed fruit and nut cake recipe are heavenly. Raisin vodka’s pretty good, and raisins in a good bread and butter pudding (home made again) with fresh home made custard (from eggs, not powder) is to die for.
Pickles in a salt beef sandwich or burger are lovely, a pickled silverskin onion in a martini is wonderful, chopped pickles on hotdogs are good too.
Frankly a) I am now hungry, and b) you is all weird and shit.
Louis
* Steady.
Pteryxx says
(rage warning) Via BB in Salon, investigation of deliberate cruelty of US border patrol agents:
http://boingboing.net/2012/07/20/border-patrol-sadism-and-human.html
Main article:
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/20/cruelty_on_the_border/
Tethys says
Giliell
Your spawn are beautiful.(especially when wearing ice cream) The pic with David M. is squeeable.
Forgive my lack of normal human behavior ie; noticing bugs and critters before people. I was raised by wolves.
Nightjar says
*sigh* I do love pickles.
(I used to be accused of being a picky eater too. Then I became a vegetarian and most of my problems went away. For example, I never liked pork. No, not even bacon. Or ham (yuck). I know, I know. No hope for me.)
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Someone has a problem with pickles?
Pickles are wonderful in almost every version I have had.
I currently have a crock of kim chi fermenting away on my counter and about 5-6 jars of various pickles I’ve made (carrots, cukes, beets, other flavored cukes) in the fridge.
pickles kick motherfucking ass.
Tethys says
The only good pea is a raw pea. Otherwise they are bland squishy dust with plastic textured skins. *shudder* YMMVO
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Would anyone be interested in talking about tea? Specifically, I’m in the market for a nice black caffeinated tea to drink in the morning.
I have experimented with the following:
1) Redrose
2) Twinings Earl Grey
3) Republic of Tea Earl Greyer
4) Twinings Irish Breakfast
5) Lipton original
6) Bigelow Earl Grey.
Conclusions: Earl Grey (all of them) is too tannin-y and bitter. Especially when I’m filling my travel mug and tucking it into my bag. Much better in small doses. Also, Republic of Tea does odd things with their blends in general that I find iffy. Odd aftertastes and the like.
Redrose and Lipton are … okay. But very meh. Lipton has a funny aftertaste as well.
The Irish Breakfast is okay, but a bit on the bland side. Oddly, I have been unable to find caffeinated English Breakfast (only decaf).
I bought a box of Yorkshire tea, but I have not yet tried it. Someone suggested that I try Tetley’s original, but the store only has huge boxes of them (like 100 bags).
Suggestions, o other imbibers of Camellia sinensis!
Giliell, not to be confused with The Borg says
Tethys
Funny, I thought they were more interested in rabbits and deer ;)
Katherine
Facing some similar “family history”, I have some sensible rules for my own alcohol-consumption. Maybe that’s an idea for you, too (allow for breaking them)
kristinc
I’d think that if the Lady were still capable of understanding, she’d be glad of knowing that a talented crafter got them.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB] says
The only value to be found in peas involves them being mashed up and used to make it easier to insert the porcupine.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Also, just to pick a side in the other debate: I like pickles.
Mostly pickles of the “sweet” variety (esp. the tiny baby gherkins. Pop ’em in the mouth for a nice, crunchy snack!), but I find the taste of dill revolting. I like the “bread and butter” style, but I’m very picky about it – like, they had better be homemade and found in dusty Ball jars in the back of the pantry with faded labels.
But pickles, no matter their variety, belong on, or associated with, sandwiches. Pickles are an on-their-own food.
Matt Penfold says
If you like a strong tea, try an assam. Uf you are after something a bit brisker, ceylon is very good as well.
Beatrice says
Esteleth,
Do they have Twinings selection packs where you buy tea?
I usually buy a selection pack with English Breakfast, Early Grey, Lady Grey, Darjeeling and Prince of Wales so I can choose one that fits my mood best when I’m making tea. Of course, I’m a heathen who buys bags instead of loose leaf tea, I don’t know about you.
Tethys says
Esteleth
I like Stash ™ teas. Their double bergamot Earl Grey is wonderful.
Lemon Blossom is very good hot or iced.
Creme Caramel is a good decaf dessert tea.
One Thousand Needles says
Oooh, I was going to drop in and introduce myself, but I’d much rather talk about tea.
Esteleth, have you tried Bigelow’s Constant Comment? It has a citrusy edge that helps diminish the bitterness from the black tea.
For any black tea, I’ve found that shortening the steeping time and not using a tea bag both help to cut back on the bitterness.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Well, my usual method is that I buy bags to see if I like it, then I buy loose leaf.
And when I say “buy loose leaf,” I mean I buy it by the pound.
What is the difference between Earl Grey and Lady Grey? I like Darjeeling, but I am completely unfamiliar with Prince of Wales.
Pteryxx says
(further warning for re-victimization)
…
From that Salon article about human rights abuses by border agents. This sounded awfully familiar…
Beatrice says
And there is also Twinings flavoured black teas : lemon, blackcurrant, apple&cinnamon&raisin, four red fruits and vanilla.
Four red fruits and blackcurrant are the best.
I mostly buy Twinings teas. Most of those made here are shit and the more expensive ones are… more expensive. Twinings is a good middle.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel) says
Completely threadrupt, but I just have to mention that I found awesome dinosaur stencils for the nursery (finally)!
http://www.stencilwarehouse.com/acatalog/Dinosaurs_Stencils.html
Matt Penfold says
Earl Grey is flavoured with bergamot, which is a small citrus fruit, Lady Grey is flavoured with lemon. Except now, in the UK, Twinings have added lemon to their Earl Grey, and as a result rendered undrinkable.
Also, you can drink Earl Grey with milk, but Lady Grey with milk is horrible.
Ing: Praise The Lord And Pass the Ammunition says
Teabags?
thunk, martian atmosphere weaksauce says
Esteleth:
The one thing I’m not picky about is tea. Weird.
I just drink whatever, neat.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB] says
One Thousand Needles:
I don’t drink tea, but feel free to grab a bean bag. Welcome.
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Beatrice @:
When I first read your post, I misread
‘Twinnigs’ as ‘Twilight’
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Tethys, I like Stash teas. But they are a bit on the pricy side. I see that you can get loose leaf through their website, but the supermarket only carries their stuff in bags. But I’ll try the double bergamot – I’ve seen it in bags at the store, so I’ll try it.
Howdy, One Thousand Needles! Slide up to the bar, try some grog. I have not tried Constant Comment. *Adds to the list.*
Beatrice says
Prince of Wales tea is good. I’m not sure what’s in it. I have to admit that I divide my teas into : I like it and I don’t like it categories without bothering much about individual ingredients or subtle differences in flavours.
—
I tried drinking tea with milk. Really. Different kinds of tea, just in case it was disgusting because I was using the wrong tea.
But I can’t. I hate milk and it just ruins my tea.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Ing
“Teabags”
har!
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
zing!
Beatrice says
Tony,
Twilight selection bags : each sparkling vampire boasts with his own dark flavour, but the overall impression is of four times strained soggy bag of angst.
Ing: Praise The Lord And Pass the Ammunition says
Twilight Tea is of course decafe.
Don’t try the Jacob one…it’s just a paper bad they draped over a slab of tender meat.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Twilight teas: for that added sparkle.
Tethys says
The only tea I enjoy with milk is Spiced Chai. But it is brewed extra strong and really needs the scalded milk to cut the tannins.
One Thousand Needles says
Don’t mind if I do!
So let me get the gushing out of the way: I’m a huge fan of the regular Pharyngula commenters and the culture that y’all have created here. Your collective comments are always impressive in their insight, rationale, and prose.
*ahem*
I’ve found this place to be a refreshing haven lately, as my meatspace atheist and skeptic groups are dominated by concern trolls that are apathetic toward issues of social justice.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to chatting here, and I’ll try not to make a fool of myself.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Blasphemy! Black teas should always be taken with milk.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Needles, the grog keg is over there. Nerd keeps it.
Tea cart is over here. Help yourself!
The quantum tomatoes are in the garden, along with the peas (but don’t tell Josh).
The rotten porcupines are stored in the basket by the door.
Beatrice says
Uh, you can have all of mine. Milk, not tea.
One Thousand Needles says
Does anyone else get a stomach ache if they have their tea without food? I found that I have to have a light snack if I have more than one cup of black tea.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google says
Probably the tannins, Needles.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Needles
You’ll be the first, then.
Welcome in!
The banana bread will be out of the oven in 20 minutes.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
I feel that I’m getting ready to go on a long chaotic fermenting kick. My wife is going to be sooooooooo happy with all those bubbling crocks all over the kitchen. /sarcasm
In fact my dog probably really will be happy. He already ate the beginning wild fermented sourdough starter last night.
Asshole that he is.
Matt Penfold says
As Esteleth said, it is almost certainly the tannins. Tannins are why most people drink black tea with milk, as molecules in the milk bind to the tannins and stop them from causing irritation to the stomach due to their astringent nature. If having you tea with milk is not to your taste, trying reducing the time you brew the tea.
One Thousand Needles says
Poor tannins just can’t get a break.
One Thousand Needles says
BigDumbChimp:
Do you brew only beer, or do you ferment other foods/drinks as well?
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel) says
Rev,
Just be careful if you’re brewing beer! Hops are poisonous to dogs (even the assholes).
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
No not beer, though that’s in the plan. This is all fermented food.
And while my dog can be an asshole, he’s still a good dog.
For an asshole.
Louis says
Hops are poisonous to dogs’ arseholes?
A day in which you learn something is never wasted.
Louis
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
This year so far 3 emergency trips to the vet for things he’s eaten
Big bowl of candy at my parents place.
3 full unopened cans of soft dog food we had for our other dog who had some teeth pulled. Unopened cans. fucker. He ripped the damn cans opened. Luckily only a few pieces of cans were consumed
And the big one, a full bottle of incontinence medicine for my sister’s dog which is essentially speed. That was scary and no fun especially considering we were at my parents’ place in the mountains 1 hour from nearest vet.
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
Correct. Never put any hops in your dog’s arsehole.
Louis says
Rev BDC,
I will stop immediately. Well, after this next batch of “special” stout is brewed for the local homoeopathic festival.
HEY! Don’t judge me, a guy’s got to get his kicks somehow, and to my credit I did interview dogs until I found a kinky one…
Louis
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Rev
Are you sure this is a dog?
onion girl, OM; social workers do it with paperwork says
DC LOCALS: Udvar-Hazy Air & Space Museum trip
Come join your local Hordelings on a trip to see the Space Shuttle that launched Hubble and flew more than any other spacecraft! We’re taking a trip to the Udvar-Hazy (I will actually bring cookies for everyone that pronounces it correctly ;). ) We’ll see the Space Shuttle Discovery, one of the Blackbirds the X-Men used on their missions–err…scratch that part…missiles, satellites, rockets, helicopters, planes, oh my! Dinner will be early at one of the restaurants nearby, and then there will be an optional return to the museum to see Dark Knight Rises — IN IMAX!
Date: Saturday, August 4th
Time:
Meet at museum: 10:00 a.m.
Dinner: 4:30 p.m. location TBA
Dark Knight Rises: 7:00 p.m.
Cost:
Museum is free; parking is $14 but is free after 4pm (we can carpool by meeting at a nearby restaurant and driving to the museum together) Dark Knight Rises is $13. (We can get discount tickets if our group is a party of 10 or more.)
Please RSVP ASAP so I can buy theater tickets; let me know whether you will be coming for the museum, dinner, movie or a combination thereof. Deadline for buying Dark Knight Rises tickets is July 30th (I’ll let everyone know if we have enough for the discount). Email oniongirlsays at google mail dot com to RSVP.
(this information brought to by ‘how fast can I post during my lunch break’ productions.)
Louis says
Chigau,
[Childish sing song voice]
Re-ev’s got a ti-ger! Re-ev’s got a ti-ger!
[/Childish sing song voice]
Louis
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
yes though I sometimes wonder
110lbs. solid muscle chocolate lab
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel) says
Using hops as a suppository sounds absolutely terrifying.
Matt Penfold says
Doesn’t seem any worse than the coffee beans that are processed in a civet cat’s digestive tract.
Cipher, OM, Sweetness and Fluff says
[complaint ahead! and ickiness!]
Yay! Work!
So far today, I have screwed up several intakes for grooming, spent a really long time looking for meds that didn’t exist, twisted my ankle, spilled a full bucket of water on my shoes and a floor covered in fur, cried, thrown up, and been jumped on by a dog who had just had a major and horrible accident on the floor of her suite and marched around in it. (That was like the first thing that happened when I got to work.) Not to mention having to clean that up – resulting in my squick-induced repeated rebleaching of her suite, and washing and rewashing of her bedding, which basically sucked up the rest of my time today, so I left a bunch of stuff undone.
To make matters EVEN MORE AWESOME, my brother has panicked and cried already today as well.
Yaaaaaaaay!
Louis says
Matt Penfold,
Perhaps so, but I imagine civet coffee makers {ahem} clean their product up somewhat.
I figure the method used in my special stout preparation will be a weakly homoeopathic remedy (think about it). After all homoeopaths are full of shit so this could help cure…
…All I’m saying is if you see me at a naturopath conference grinning, don’t drink anything I offer you.
Louis
P.S. Audley, porcupines have NOTHING on these bad boys! ;-)
Louis says
Cipher,
I recommend heavy drinking.
I do that a lot.
Alternatively, hugs and chocolate! I shall prepare the USB transporter immediately.
Louis
thunk, martian atmosphere weaksauce says
Onion Girl:
Augh! Damn not living near DC!
*shakes fist*
Rev. BigDumbChimp says
The guy on the right
The perspective in this shot doesn’t do his size justice.
Tethys says
Aw Cipher, my sympathies on your shitty day.
Let’s hope the heat breaks soon. It is making everyone irritable.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel) says
Rev,
He may be an asshole, but he’s beautiful.
chigau (自分のサンドイッチを作ろう!) says
Rev
It has a laser on its head and you still think it’s a dog???
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB] says
Rev. :
My roommate, T has a chocolate lab as well. This dog has-twice this week-eaten a box of protein bars while T was at work. She said she feels your pain.
PZ Myers says
NEW THREAD!