…as if to say “those poor natives are just born like that and we must patronisingly defend everything about them”
Have any of Harris’ critics really said anything like that? Or is that just another lie spouted by his fanboys?
governmentmansays
Harris makes a point. Greenwald misses the point and complains based on his misunderstanding.
Business as usual.
governmentmansays
@Raging Bee
That quote was Nawaz saying that Greenwald was mistaken to conflate an inherent trait like homosexuality with a conceptual framework like Islam, because that is to suggest that Muslims are just inherently stuck with their bad ideas as opposed to just being people who can learn why they are bad.
You can see why Nawaz would be insulted by that, since it then implies that Harris is using Nawaz as a token Muslim, and that therefore what Nawaz has to say doesn’t matter, or that he isn’t in a real dialogue with Harris and is only being used as an identity, when presumably he is actually a rational agent who can decide for himself if his dialogue with Harris is productive and in-good-faith or not.
Lady Mondegreensays
@themann1086
If Sam Harris and Glenn Greenwald debate, I’m rooting for the meteor.
themann1086 says
If Sam Harris and Glenn Greenwald debate, I’m rooting for the meteor.
Raging Bee says
…as if to say “those poor natives are just born like that and we must patronisingly defend everything about them”
Have any of Harris’ critics really said anything like that? Or is that just another lie spouted by his fanboys?
governmentman says
Harris makes a point. Greenwald misses the point and complains based on his misunderstanding.
Business as usual.
governmentman says
@Raging Bee
That quote was Nawaz saying that Greenwald was mistaken to conflate an inherent trait like homosexuality with a conceptual framework like Islam, because that is to suggest that Muslims are just inherently stuck with their bad ideas as opposed to just being people who can learn why they are bad.
You can see why Nawaz would be insulted by that, since it then implies that Harris is using Nawaz as a token Muslim, and that therefore what Nawaz has to say doesn’t matter, or that he isn’t in a real dialogue with Harris and is only being used as an identity, when presumably he is actually a rational agent who can decide for himself if his dialogue with Harris is productive and in-good-faith or not.
Lady Mondegreen says
@themann1086
lol