A Malaysian Islamist group makes things helpfully clear by attacking the very idea of equality and human rights.
Equality, liberty and human rights are “godless” and “faithless” ideologies created by atheists to destroy Islam, hardline Islamic group Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (ISMA) said today.
Since Malaysia’s general elections in 2013, the non-governmental organisation has been growing in popularity, striking a chord with more conservative Malay Muslims who support its push for Malaysia to become an Islamic state.
ISMA’s uncompromising views and bald statements have been criticised mainly by Malaysia’s non Muslim minority and rights groups. Some have likened ISMA to the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Mainly by non-Muslim minority groups and rights groups? Why not the non-extremist mainstream Muslim groups that we’re always hearing are so much more numerous and real than the Islamists? Why not liberal secularist Muslims?
Speaking at ISMA’ s convention for Muslim women, its president Zaid Abdul Rahman also said civil society groups are proxies of a Zionist-Christian agenda that seeks to confuse Muslims with ideologies which are unIslamic.
“Islam is Islam. Ideologies are not part of Islam and all these ideologies are from the west..liberalism, liberty, equity and human rights are all agenda of the atheist.
“They are a godless and faithless ideology.
“There is no liberal islam or socialist islam. You are either a Muslim or a jahilliah (an ignorant),” he said.
That simplifies the choices. There is no liberal Islam, and you are either a Muslim or a jahilliah – so either you’re a Correct Muslim or you’re an Ignorant; all liberals are ignorants.
Zaid said ISMA, which strives to ensure the “purest” form of Islam is upheld in Malaysia, was set up to counter the threat against Islam.
Despite accusations to the contrary, Zaid claimed that ISMA promotes moderation and its version of Islam is universally suitable.
“We Isma promote moderation and I believe our model is timeless”.
Right. A version of Islam that opposes liberalism, liberty, equity and human rights is the epitome of moderation and suitability.
well any group that is against liberalism, liberty, equity and human rights can’t complain when another group comes in and forces them to be and behave as something they’d rather not. Hmmm. Who can be persuaded to do that?
Curiously, ISMA seems more comfortable with Atheism+ than many atheists!
Wait – so you’re either a Muslim or a jambalaya?? WTF??
“Equality, liberty and human rights are “godless” and “faithless” ideologies created by atheists”
Well, technically, that’s true. There is no verse in any of the Abrahamic religions’ literature that sets down basic, fundamental human rights. Not one. For that matter, there’s no verse that states that slavery is wrong or even that it’s bad!
And the towering figures of the Enlightenment were mostly atheists – Meslier, Diderot, the Baron d’Holbach, d’Alembert. A great many Christians today deride and contemptuously put down the Enlightenment, despite profiting personally from the secularization it spawned within society! Not one of them wants to go live in a Muslim theocracy, however much they defend monarchy as the only god-ordained government system (yeah, that’s from the Bible, too – it’s chock FULL of primitive nastiness)! See, even slavery is *fine* – so long as THEY aren’t the slaves, you see!
They DO display a really odd sort of irrationality and inconsistency of thought, don’t they??
I don’t think that equality, liberty and human rights were created by atheists, given the historical context in which they emerged; I do think, however, that equality, liberty and human rights created a system in which atheism could flourish and that therefore atheism is a better guarantee that equality, liberty and human rights will continue.