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Jul 11 2012

Hello sailor

Brilliant. The Washington Monthly does a big ol’ serious thinky article on Y No Wimmin at policy events, forums, and conferences around DC, and before people can even get to the serious thinky words they get an eyefull of a pouty babe with big tits in a tank top.

The comments below the article are mostly pretty annoyed.

H/t Katha Pollitt

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  1. 1
    Eric MacDonald

    You know what the guy doing the layout was thinking with! Can’t people ever learn? It shouldn’t need saying by this time, in a place where feminism was, if not born, at least such a powerful influence on society — at least I thought it was, but what do I know? The feminist movement in the US was huge, noisy, and made changes. What hasn’t it reached to the level of the people who do “thinky” articles for glossy mags?

  2. 2
    Pierce R. Butler

    Oh but she’s wearing glasses with thick black rims!

    She must be a Very Serious Person, like Washington Monthly readers.

  3. 3
    Brian

    You’re just anti-sex.

  4. 4
    KarenX

    You’re just anti-sex.

    Just another sad consequence of living in the United States.

  5. 5
    leni

    Maybe they just mean think about boobs? You know, like really ponder them in a serious way.

    For instance, I was just at Dispatches telling everyone how I wish mine had built in lasers. I thought about that for quite some time, actually.

  6. 6
    smhll

    Tits or GTFO of our conference! (Sigh)

  7. 7
    Stacy

    I wish mine had built in lasers.

    That would be really cool. Cyberboobs! The transhumanist people need to get right on this.

  8. 8
    Stacy

    Aside from the stoopid graphic, did the article have anything useful to say?

  9. 9
    karmakin

    This is the stuff that I think is basically the worst. Absolutely zero context…actually negative context. It’s in pursuit of exactly the opposite ends, it’s cheesecake for the sake of cheesecake.

    I don’t particularly like classic pin-ups for the same reason, (even relatively tame ones) as I think it’s the essence of objectification. It’s also why I have more tolerance for similar imagery in movies, comics and video games. If it’s something that more or less fits the character, I’m fine with it. It’s when it doesn’t fit the character (or the character has no character) that it really bothers me.

  10. 10
    Tigger_the_Wing

    Of course the layout people thought it was appropriate! After all, they did go to the trouble of ‘shopping serious spectacles onto her face! She totally looks like a scientist, now! Oh, oh… and the word ‘think’ on her chest! They even lovingly made it curve – and wasn’t it just awesome to put the word just there? The first place that everyone would look, amirite?

    … barf.

    And some people still claim that there isn’t a backlash against equality?

  11. 11
    karmakin

    There’s actually an anime where the main character (who is a cyborg) has machine gun boobs.

    It’s actually not as bad as it sounds. It’s more James Bond (to be specific it’s actually a gender-reversed sci-fi Golgo 13) than shock faire.

  12. 12
    F

    Nice work. Now that’s journalism. The kind of serious journalism that bloggers are incapable oif producing, and which needs to be protected by insane IP laws, frivolous lawsuits, and wacky takedown notices.

  13. 13
    Brad

    Those glasses are ridiculous.

  14. 14
    Markita Lynda—damn climate change!

    Those glasses have no glass in them!

  15. 15
    Martha

    Amanda Marcotte has a short article on Slate about this: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/07/11/female_policy_experts_why_are_there_so_few_women_working_at_think_tanks_.html

  16. 16
    leni

    That would be really cool. Cyberboobs! The transhumanist people need to get right on this.

    I know right? It’s the first augment I’m getting after the cure death one.

    *Sigh*

  17. 17
    mandrellian

    Why are there no women at conferences?

    Only dumbfuck editors who approve layouts like that don’t know.

  18. 18
    Svlad Cjelli

    Boob-engineering is already underway. Baby steps.

  19. 19
    Ysanne

    Maybe she thinks with her boobs? (Just like the layouter who apparently thinks with his dick.)

  20. 20
    &drew

    I dunno. I kinda like the tousled bed-raggled hair….

  21. 21
    jamessweet

    Here’s the link, since I don’t see it in Ophelia’s post or any of the other comments.

  22. 22
    McC2lhu iz not nu.

    Gurls are allowed at the conferences, as long as they are composed of nothing but boobs and pouty lips. It’s in the bible, people!

  23. 23
    Sunny

    A discourse on gravity.

  24. 24
    Ophelia Benson

    Oops, sorry about forgetting link.

  25. 25
    Lou Doench

    Those glasses have no glass in them!

    Photographer here… Fashion shoots often use prop glasses because real glasses are a pain in the ass. You’ve got 3 different strobes going, its almost impossible to angle the glasses to avoid glare and reflections.

    PS. If you are getting a reflection off of glasses in you’re home photography, have your subject angle them towards the ground just a little. Most people won’t notice, but the reflection from your flash will bounce down instead of into the lens.

  26. 26
    Precambrian Cat

    Good to see the many fellow men acknowledging how bad the picture choice is. What must means the editorial staff is actually at odds with their readers, isn’t it?

  27. 27
    Ophelia Benson

    Cat, yes, it looks that way. I wonder if the editorial staff is feeling silly now!

  28. 28
    SC (Salty Current), OM

    Am I the only one who read it as a bad visual pun – she’s in a “think tank”?

    Yeah, probably. :)

  29. 29
    Ophelia Benson

    Salty, nope, Katha made a (very annoyed) joke along the same lines in the tweet that alerted me to this – “discuss men and think tanks, discuss women and tank tops. sad.”

  30. 30
    Ant Allan

    So, the photo is an answer of sorts to the “y no wimmin” question, ne?

    /@

  31. 31
    kagerato

    Has someone come out to declare this yet another instance of satire, irony, or a joke and therefore immune to criticism?

  32. 32
    SC (Salty Current), OM

    Salty, nope, Katha made a (very annoyed) joke along the same lines in the tweet that alerted me to this – “discuss men and think tanks, discuss women and tank tops. sad.”

    Hmm…are we miscommunicating? I meant it’s a tank that says “think,” so a “think tank.”

  33. 33
    Ophelia Benson

    Yes, and Katha was making a play on “think tank” – but clearly I’m wrong, I withdraw my comment, forget I ever said anything.

  34. 34
    SC (Salty Current), OM

    Yes, and Katha was making a play on “think tank” –

    Yes, I know. I was talking about the image itself.

    but clearly I’m wrong, I withdraw my comment, forget I ever said anything.

    You sound angry [?]. I was just suggesting that I might have pun pareidolia.

  35. 35
    Ophelia Benson

    Oh, I see – the image. Not angry, just irritable for a moment. Nemmine.

  36. 36
    SC (Salty Current), OM

    OK.

  37. 37
    Godless Heathen

    @SC,

    I totally saw the pun, but not until after you pointed it out. :-)

    If that makes you feel better. So you’re (sort of) not the only one.

  38. 38
    SC (Salty Current), OM

    :)

  39. 39
    Winterwind

    The scary thing is I’m so desensitised to images like this that there’s a good chance I wouldn’t have noticed the problem if I had simply seen the article. Thanks for the reminder to try and stay aware and critical.

  40. 40
    bad Jim

    The Washington Monthly’s blog has comments from the author about the photo illustrating her article. They’re worth reading, if a bit equivocal. A snippet:

    Here’s my response: I don’t mind the picture. In fact, I like it.

    And I like it for the same reason that Amanda Marcotte of Slate doesn’t—it makes the point that “[w]hen you live in a society that values women more for their bodies than their brains, female underrepresentation in the smarty-pants professions is the entirely predictable result.”

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