And the winner is…
I can’t say that I’m particularly upset at our defeat — it was an unjust attack, a war of aggression instigated by our right wing and Israel, and it was doomed from the start — except that we killed a lot of people for no good reason. Fortunately, now Trump has signed what is called a “Memorandum of Understanding” that ought to be more accurately labeled our terms of surrender.
He signed it at Versailles.
On social media, the historian Kevin Kruse reacted with disbelief to the president signing the agreement to end his war in the same location where Germany was forced to sign the humiliating treaty of Versailles in 1919, accepting its loss in the first world war.
“He signed an unconditional surrender at Versailles?” Kruse wrote. “Come the fuck on.”
It is most definitely a surrender. Look at point 6 of the memorandum.
6. The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, While ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.
The US also agrees that “frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available”. There are no concessions to the US other than the promise that Iran will never produce nuclear weapons, a promise that was in place before we started bombing everything. We’re paying $300 billion in reparations!
The war might be over, except for one little clause.
The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.
Our “ally” in this war was Israel. Netanyahu has already declared that they aren’t leaving Lebanon. He’s going to start firing missiles everywhere, isn’t he?
The MAGA rationalizations are going to be epic.
I’m so cynical and jaded at this point that the thought crossed my mind that the signing at Versailles was deliberate. It’ll be used as a rhetorical gambit so that Trump’s replacement fascist in 2039 can declare a need for some “living room”, make the “manifest-destiny-white-nationalist-christo-fascist-horror-show” ideology even MORE obvious (if at all possible), claim they are building a MAGAstan Republic that will last a thousand years, and invade Canada.
Mind you, I also think I might be being optimistic.
Louis
Don’t forget the Dolchstoßlegende! Pretty soon we’ll hear that we didn’t lose, we were sold out by the Jews.
Jimmy Kimmel provides a summary.
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=LZMCdIZqDC8
“Melania is saying ‘how do I get a deal like that?’ “
Are there any precedents of similar incompetence in Roman history? He’ll now have a full scale Triumph in Washington I’m sure.
This isn’t even a peace treaty.
It is more like a cease fire in place.
A Memorandum of Understanding with everything to be determined in the future.
These temporary agreements tend to end up being the permanent agreement.
IRRC, we still have one left in place at the end of the Korean War. A cease fire agreement.
That turns out to be the case.
Technically North and South Korea are still at war.
After 73 years, a peace treaty on the Korean peninsula doesn’t seem very likely.
And the MOU is probably useless because a key party, Israel viz. Netanyahu, hasn’t agreed to anything with respect to Lebanon.
Note that, as we know, Dumpster has been skirting the law requiring Congressional authorization by saying it’s “not a war” but the MOU specifically refers to the conflict as “the current war.”
And the MOU is already loosing at home…and among Republican leaders. Per Heather Cox Richardson some conservative Republicans in Congress are pissed.
But not to worry, the MOU probably isn’t going to hold up for long because Bibi is using war to stay out of jail, too, and The Files are still waiting our attention.
The most incompetent administration we’ve ever had.
This wasn’t just an unjust war, it was illegal. Iran wasn’t a threat. Trump boasted how that first strike had obliterated their nuclear weapons capability. He neither sought not was granted Congressional approval.
The killing of those schoolgirls was thus arguably a war crime and should be prosecuted as such.
I’d also love to see a comparison between this deal and Obama’s which got all that flak about unfreezing Iranian financial assets and bow he’s doing the same.
A lot of people have died for nothing. This administration has blood on its hands and should be made to pay.
Same with Venezuela and those boats we keep destroying in the Caribbean and Pacific.
Some of those boats are certainly not drug boats. They are full of people and are probably transporting refugees.
Next up. Our consolation prize will be Cuba. They are at least close so we don’t have to travel far.
I wouldn’t call it arguable.
It was a war crime and not the only one.
We just bombed a water storage project in Iran, a target of zero military significance.
This outcome was 100% predictable before the first shots were fired.
Sadly, we have a total failure and capitulation of our news media up and down the line, with the exception of some YouTube channels like the Midas Touch and I’ve Had It news. Not only is the truth not being told but the lies are being spun either directly or by omission.
Of course we knew the Mango Mussolini administration would spin whatever happened as victory but we’ve gotten to the point in the country where up is down, red is black, and you can’t believe your lying eyes. Total 1984. We’ve always been allies with Iran.
It will be a while but in time packs of wild dogs will be running in the streets.
I can’t wait until the 10 year old kids who survive the Gazacide and the Khamenei family survivors get their ducks lined up, whether it is in 5, 10 or 15 years. They are patient, and I guarantee you they will want nothing more than revenge. The mother of all revenges.
I expect an event, or events, that will make 9/11 look like a single car bombing.
Bombing the school is unlikely to be a war crime. It would require intent: bombing the school, knowing it was a school. Given it was in the general vicinity of a valid military target, a mistake would, under international humanitarian law, usually be treated as a mistake. The laws of war are strange like that, because the point is to allow doing just enough horrible stuff that countries will abide by the rules when they decide to start mass murdering people in a war.
Bombing the water storage is almost certainly a war crime; it was not an accident, and there’s no military justification.
Levelling Gaza and a good bit of Lebanon is a mix of war crimes and crimes against humanity, probably mostly the latter.
The best part: The US weren’t sold out by the Jews, they were bought out by Israel and their allies — evangelical backers who want to use Israel to bring on the apocalypse that will destroy the Jews.
It’s not a deal, it’s the concept of a deal that’s already imploded.
So our horrible regime is now making their horrible regime more stable. With a worse deal than Obama got…
That $300 billion > $1,000 per US taxpayer. Nobody else will offer to chip in.
Netanyahu has every incentive to sabotage this “deal”, and none to sustain it.
Putin won’t see any advantage in it, and will find further ways to weaken the US while his catspaw remains in place.
We can only hope that “Versailles II’ won’t have quite the impact of V I.
The way I’m seeing it is the US lost big time, and there’s still room for us to lose bigger, especially if Israel drags us back in.
If only the USA had some leverage to apply to Israel…
@19 whywhywhy
The day before Trump’s BD bash and the signing of this treaty, Netanyahu sent some missiles into Lebanon. This was a big fuck you to Trump. Netanyahu knows most of America’s politicians are funded by AIPAC and a few other Jewish proxies. The USA has very little leverage over Israel. I doubt Netanyahu abides by Trump’s and Iran’s Memorandum of Understanding. Trump can call Netanyahu all the names he wants but, in the end, Israel will maintain their independence from America.
Any document that Orange Cadet BoneSpurs signs is worthless. Signed contracts are totally meaningless to him.
tRUMP, naziyahoo, pigseth, the vancehole, the entire magat-sphere is nothing more than lies and fraud and corruption on the grandest scale imaginable.
Iran is run by an evil cabal. But, YES, tRUMP lost and I find consolation in that. The problem is that we (taxpayers and others murdered throughout the world by him) have paid too high a price for his insanity.
O.K. I’ve gotta go now and do something positive and constructive because I’m hearing Martha and the Vandellas singing in my head.
One final thought, anyone who is well versed in history knows that the Versailles debacle set the world up for the rise of the Nazi regime. I fear that there is a parallel to that here and now. It just isn’t clear what disaster(s) will be engendered by the murderous tRUMP/naziyahoo debacle.
@19 whywhywhy wrote: If only the USA had some leverage to apply to Israel…
WAIT, was that sarcasm? Isn’t it clear by tRUMP and the dead dog congress sending tens of billions of dollars and weapons to israel that our government has its nose up naziyahoo’s ass?!?!
Get me outta here!
stuffin @20: OTOH Netanyahu did call off a planned attack on Iran, so there’s at least that.
stuffin, I took a look.
I was sceptical, but you’re sorta kinda correct in a certain sense.
If by ‘funded’ you mean any contribution whatsoever, then yes.
If by ‘funded’ you mean the bulk of the contribution, then no.
cf. https://theintercept.com/2024/10/24/aipac-spending-congress-elections-israel/
Also, it is not a Jewish proxy (by which you intend to mean an Israel proxy, to be generous).
To be that it would have to be working under the explicit guidance of Israel (or Jews, as you put it).
(That old category thing; Israel is Jewish, but Jewish is not Israel)
@25 anat – For now. I do not believe Netanyahu will allow Trump, or any American politician, to dictate how Israel will handle their enemies or conflict on their borders.
@26 John Morales – (That old category thing; Israel is Jewish, but Jewish is not Israel)
Where is that line?
Epstein had many of the goyim leaders throughout the world in his bag. His girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell. had an intriguing farther, Robert Maxwell. I read somewhere, sometime back the Massad likes to find Jews who are not Israelis and use them (spy) for Israel’s purposes. This way they can disconnect the Jew from Israel if necessary.
British media tycoon Robert Maxwell had deep and controversial ties to Israel’s intelligence agency, Mossad. While never officially confirmed by the Israeli government, historical investigations, whistleblowers, and his daughter all described him as an intelligence asset.
The Mossad Connection = The Allegations: Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, Maxwell reportedly worked closely with Mossad, using his massive global media and publishing empire as a cover for international espionage.
Global Salesman: Intelligence experts and whistleblowers allege that he was tasked by Mossad with distributing a highly sophisticated, unauthorized intelligence-gathering software (Enhanced PROMIS) to infiltrate foreign governments.
State Funeral: Upon his death, Maxwell received a high-profile state funeral on Jerusalem’s Mount of Olives attended by top Israeli intelligence officials. Then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir publicly declared, “He has done more for Israel than can today be said.”
You have to be concerned with Israel’s influence throughout the world and with the methods the employ.
Right when this whole shitstorm kicked off, I posted something here like “Let’s hope Israel doesn’t start their own final solution”. I was kicked around the house for saying that back then. Shortly after, I gave up playing klezmer in a futile and unnoticeable gesture of protest. I love klezmer – the music of the murdered – but I know it’s connotations in modern times as well. And, in Isiah mode, I’ll prophesy; UNLESS YOU REPENT, you, Israel., have done enough to ensure another Holocaust. Whether in a year’s time, or 5 years, or 50 years, or 500 years, Nemesis is inevitable. And I don’t want that either. I want Beym Reb’n In Palestina.
Since you asked: my demarcation is the State of Israel vs. Jewish identity.
I was rather explicit.
I refer to ontological dependence.
To a geopolitical construct versus an ethnoreligious identity.
Jews and Jewishness are separate from and can exist without the current State of Israel (obs, Jewish identity, theology, and ethnoreligious cohesion existed for millennia without a modern sovereign state, no?) but Israel itself could not exist without that Jewish identity.
Yes, it’s supposedly secular.
But come on. Pretty obvious.
So that’s my point, trite as it may be.
So that when you or others equivocate or conflate the two, it is a form of confusion at best, and usually misleading.
Holy ironic reversals, Batman! Besides America surrendering at Versailles, this Chotiner piece has a reverse Dolchstoßlegende:
“Shimon Riklin, an anchor on the country’s right-wing Channel 14, and a Netanyahu ally, thinks America stabbed Israel in the back.”
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-israeli-ultra-hawks-who-feel-betrayed-by-trumps-iran-deal
Pure propaganda, Ed.
You are walking to the beat of the drum.
Interviewer: Isaac Chotiner
Respondent: Shimon Riklin
Heh. The ones running genocide and pogroms are the ones calling the other mob ‘nazi’.
As to the agenda for “regime change,” I can only quote an esteemed mid-twentieth-century analyst:
Iran is still a theocracy.† As is the American tradition, we participated in unlawfully removing a monster so another monster could replace him. In Iran in particular, it’s still one particular hardline faction of the IRG in charge. We didn’t even manage to positively influence any of the surrounding theocratic regimes while we were at it… for over a thousand miles. (And that’s a lot of theocracies, several of which the US considers “allies” and/or “friendly.”)
† The true structural antithesis of any form of “democracy” is “theocracy.”
In the news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/19/us-iran-talks-in-switzerland-cancelled
MAGA rationalizations cost human lives.
FWIW Owen Jones has this colelction of – The Best Meltdowns Over Trump’s Iran SURRENDER by US Repougs and israelis. 22 minslong.
@12. Captain Kendrick : “The mother of all revenges. I expect an event, or events, that will make 9/11 look like a single car bombing.”
So a lot more innocent casualties and dead people most of whoem had no say in what happened there? You look forward to & “can’t wait” to be seeing that?
Something that will then cause another reaction from its victims that will then want their own bloody revenge and so the cycle goes.
I don’t . I hope that doesn’t happen. I hope there’s finally a decent peaceful resolution and everyone gets to live safely and with as much freedom and opportunity to pursue happiness as possible and finds a way to co-exist.
If everyone would just stop attacking everyone else and accept that they have to share and have their land whilst others also have theirs too. If only. There’s millions of every group of other human beings living there -except maybe the Samaritans and Bahais and a few other minorities.
Then there are the consequences for the rest of our already struggling pale blue dot. Phuysical, economic, social, cultural and environmental.
Israel already has WMDs and its Samson Option. If more groups also gain similar apocalyptic weapons and then everyone or just many of them use them? Well, that ends our world as we know it. For worse not better.
Not that Global Overheating isn’t already doing that anyhow. I think the implications of Gobal Overheating are a factor that far too many people are overlooking here.
Perhaps rather than fighting to get one or t’other piece of soon to be uninhabitable scorched, broiled, waterless, flooded land everyone there should be working on where and how they are going to go when the entire Southwest Asian region becomes uninhabitable which seems all too likely to be all to soon the way things are trending Climate~wise.
[“waterless, flooded land”?]
John Marales – So that’s my point, trite as it may be.
And trite it is.
The line is blurred and intentionally so by the conservative Israeli politicians and their pundits. Saving Jewishness from Israel may be futile. I believe the deep-rooted belief system of Judaism will forever keep Jewishness trapped by Israel.
@37. John Morales : Yes.
Some land that is waterless.
Some land that is flooded.
Some land that is both – sometimes flooded and sometimes waterless.
Some land that is scorched and some land that is broiled.
Some land that is both broiled and scorched depending on the season and current new weather.
Ever more land that is ever less habitable and capable of sustaining life beyond extremophiles.
Also ever less land that is above sea level as that keeps rising.
Not just in Southwest Asia but relevantly here definitely in Southwest Asia.
John @29,
“but Israel itself could not exist without that Jewish identity.”
The majority of Israelis are not of the Jewish religion at all, they’re just hiding behind the Holocaust to have free reign to finish the Greater Israel colonization project. (don’t conflate ethnic Jews with religious Jews). Netanyahu’s (not his real name) parents were from Poland.
rorschach, yes, I know.
With a huge influx from Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union, when its population grew by over 20%.
Again, I made it damn clear I mean the country vs. its people.
Israel itself, the State. The entity doing the genocide and pogroms.
No. That would be land that sometimes is one, sometimes the other.
Cannot be both at any given time.
(Like saying someone is both hungry and satiated ;)
Huh. Intresting detail here :
Source : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/us-iran-agreement-lebanon-middle-east-peace/106819878
This is fine:
@ rorschach : “Netanyahu’s (not his real name) parents were from Poland.”
In what way is Netanyahu not Netanyahu’s real name exactly and what then is Netanyahu’s real name and why?
cf. https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2012/04/benzion-netanyahu-emeritus-dies-102
Your doubt is well-founded. It indeed is his birth-surname, and that of his father’s at the time of his birth.
Yes. It is his real name.
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Anyway, he sure manipulated Trump. Can’t deny that.
@ ^ John Morales : Thanks.
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StevoR,
the family name was Mileikovsky. “Netanyahu” iirc means god-given or something like that, they adopted that surname because it sounded better in the context of being frenzied zionists. The point here being that this family was from Poland, and others that make up this rogue state are from Argentina, Russia, UK, Canada, USA, wherever. Religion is not the glue that holds them together, murder of brown people and colonialism are.
This is a classic example of how Trump operates.
.1. Do something without planning it or thinking it through very far.
.2. When it fails, have someone else pick up the pieces.
.3. Blame someone else for his failures, Obama, Biden, unknown algae terrorists.
This works sometimes.
His many bankruptcies were picked up by his investors and bankers.
A lot of the time it fails.
Iran doesn’t care who Trump blames for his failures.
The algae in the Reflecting Pool don’t care what Trump or the GOP thinks either.
PS: For anyone interested, the reason the algae bloom happened is because they refilled the pool with city water from Washington DC. Like a lot of cities they add phosphate to their drinking water to inhibit lead corrosion in old pipes.
Phosphate is a key algae nutrient.
The lead in drinking water happened when Flint, Michigan changed water suppliers and took the phosphate additive out.