There was a violent crime in Belfast: a black immigrant stabbed a white man. It’s a common kind of crime, horrible and deserving of condemnation, but trust Elon Musk to fan the flames of hatred and turn it into a cause celebre, and the city was consumed with violent riots.
As the bedlam raged in Belfast after the stabbing—resulting in far-right rioters torching cars, buses, and even the homes of immigrants—Musk egged it on. Using X—the platform he acquired precisely for moments like these—he posted locations for groups of rioters to congregate. He elevated vile, overtly fascist and white-supremacist exhortations. When one far-right British politician called for the prosecution of officials who “placed dangerous third world savages in our communities,” Musk replied: “This is the way.”
These developments graphically illustrate the future that Musk truly envisions. They also demonstrate that Musk will use his stratospheric wealth and influence to incite untold levels of global fascist violence going forward. Which leads to an unavoidable conclusion: At some point, friends of liberal democracy throughout the advanced democracies—including future liberal governments—will simply have to come together in a concerted and deliberate way to constrain Musk and all he’s unleashing. Whenever Democrats take back power in the United States, this must be squarely on the agenda.
The article has a lot to say about Musk’s outrageous fascism, and don’t deny it: it’s fucking fascism of the kind Hitler would have endorsed, combined with the same crazy ignorance of actual genetics, and he has a plan that Donald Trump would recognize.
It’s instructive that amid the violence, Musk endorsed a call for “Reconquista,” an allusion to Christian military campaigns to retake the Iberian peninsula from Islamic forces. (Modern-day keyboard fascists have long rather pathetically imagined themselves to be akin to Charles Martel, who turned back the Muslims at Tours in 732.) And Musk boosted a call for the removal of millions from the U.K.
I was wondering what Democrats could possibly do against a trillionaire. Here are some suggestions.
Then there’s what a future Democratic Congress can do. The Musk problem will have to be on its agenda in a serious and meaningful way. Claire Finkelstein, a professor of national security law at the University of Pennsylvania, points out a core problem here: His many government contracts, and his access to privileged information, pose a “national security threat,” even as Space X itself is in many ways a “national security asset.” We need to know a lot more about what Musk’s contracts actually translate into in terms of his personal influence inside the government.
“Congress has to do rigorous oversight of Musk’s government contracts as well as his entire financial empire,” Finkelstein tells us.
Other ideas abound. Brian Beutler has urged the next Democratic administration to closely scrutinize the murky circumstances of Musk’s own immigration to the United States. Beyond such things, we’ll need a coordinated effort across liberal democracies. Appropriately, the targeting of apartheid in Musk’s native South Africa provides a model. We need an international consensus that recognizes the threat Musk poses and works against it with boycotts, with the withdrawal of support and funding, and with whatever creative tools are available. Politicians and publics alike need to think internationally.
OK, let’s strip him of his government contracts, and then turn his own plans against him: deport Musk. Maybe we can seize all of his assets and turn SpaceX into a subdivision of NASA, too. And that’s a mild response: he really ought to be jailed for incitement.



I’m all for deporting Musk and seizing his assets. Wealth of his level should be illegal.
Who placed this dangerous South African savage in your community?
Who placed this dangerous South African savage in your community?
Sorry!
From some reports it wasn’t some random attack. The two men were known to each other. Elon Musk ad his fascists only go with half the story as usual.
It is Elon Musk again, who has helpfully emphasized his complete racism.
This is from September, 2025 on X.
This is a copy of a recent post on X.
Whyatt Stag is nobody, an anonymous white racist.
What is noteworthy is that Elon Musk is agreeing with him.
None of this is the least bit true. I’m white myself and I would know it if I was being genocided.
The reality is that right now, whites dominate the entire world.
Musk is a dangerous idiot and a failure as a human being.
Deporting Elon Musk back to South Africa or Canada is an obviously great idea.
There are quite a few other billionaires that we would be better without them around.
Peter Thiel of Palantir should be next on the list, another South African racist.
Peter Thiel openly hates the US democracy and will destroy it if he can. He also came from South Africa to make his fortune in a democratic country known as the USA.
Send him back.
Ironically, Palantir relies on government contracts for its existence.
There is no way any government entity should have any dealings whatsoever with Thiel or Palantir.
Why feed the monster that bites your hand?
A problem appears to be that these rather uneducated people act across boundaries. During the Weimar Republic, it was still (with some luck) possible to escape to a country with a less extremist government, but nowadays, the entire West is being choked by disgusting fascist far-right idiots (no few of them supported by Russia and China as per their view on “international solidarity”). We also have our new apartheid state, except for that it has killed ten times the number compared to actual apartheid. It’s all rather sad right now, and I feel inclined to quite agree to some rants on this very page.
There are dozens of instances of the elongated muskrat’s criminal activities. I can’t list them all here. Here are three:
https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2026/4/whitehouse-calls-for-answers-about-musk-backed-xai-s-pattern-of-operating-illegal-data-center-gas-plants
U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works Sheldon Whitehouse Calls for Answers About Musk-backed xAI’s Pattern of …
Meanwhile, the illegal unpermitted turbines are still running. Whitehouse is requesting answers from EPA by April 29 th about the Agency’s plans to fulfill its enforcement obligations, as well as any information regarding the agency’s knowledge of xAI’s plans to operate unpermitted
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-admin-admits-to-using-grok-to-bomb-iran-in-federal-lawsuit-backing-musk/
Trump Admin Admits to Using Grok to Bomb Iran In Federal Lawsuit Backing Musk
The Trump administration is defending Musk’s data center by admitting that it has used its AI to enable strikes on Iran.
By Shireen Akram-Boshar ,
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/6/18/abre_conner_naacp
DOJ Takes Elon Musk’s Side in NAACP Lawsuit Against xAI for Polluting Black Neighborhoods
Story June 18, 2026
PZ mentioned ‘Then there’s what a future Democratic Congress can do.’
I reply: History has shown that the corporate democrats, dnc, dccc, schumer, jeffries etc. are owned and operated by the billionaire class and do not care and will not act to protect the populace. Congress is a toothless dog. I am looking, but I can’t see any entity that can halt the rape and pillage of this country by the malicious, murderous tech. billionaires.
These developments seem rather…familiar. Very 20th-century, in fact, ca. 1930.
Along with deporting Musk and all else suggested above, how about making him pay his fucking taxes on his way out the door? That would hit him where it hurts.
garnetstar,
Taxing billionaires is more complex than people think. The very wealthiest – Gates, Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg – have almost all their wealth in stock. As long as they don’t sell it, it isn’t income, and their income taxes are relatively tiny. They still live lavishly by borrowing from banks, who are happy to make big loans to them with the aforementioned stock as collateral. This bypasses taxation, at least the bulk of it.
This, by the way, is why we should support a wealth tax.
I hear Snake Island is nice this time of year.
Thanks to this fascist cheerleader I got a stupid ‘White Genocide’ leaflet in my mailbox last week. Fuck that shit head.
yes Musk is a big problem and all he is “accused” of and more is most likely true he is a real danger. He probably enjoys the idea and he sure likes the power I am sure.
The only thing i find really disturbing is Star Link. He has denied Russia access to it and has allowed Ukraine full use of it. Star Link is one of the technologies that is facilitating the success of the drone war for Ukraine until they have their own independent access to satellite coms. I worry they are subject to his irrationality.
Sure. But he was not one of the rioters, was he, unclefrogy?
He’s just a bloke saying shit. One of many.
The big problem is that pool of ready-to-riot residents.
If he’d done exactly the same thing, but people had not rioted, then this problem would not have occurred.
(Inciting is not doing)
Pragmatism. The SpaceX IPO was in the horizon and he wanted it to be successful.
(Which it has been, alas)
garnetstar @11, it is called a wealth tax. Which US temporary embarrassed billionaires don’t want to pay, but of which my mother would have likely said ‘how I wish this were a problem for my children’.
[huh]
Was just reading about that: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/18/california-billionaire-tax-ballot-tech-opposition
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While the union that floated the proposal has framed it as a way of getting the ultra-rich to pay their fair share, many of the state’s tech elites have condemned the tax and spent millions attempting to crush it. Google co-founder Sergey Brin has spent at least $82m alone on efforts to fight the tax and has relocated just over the California border to the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe.
The Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, crypto billionaire Chris Larsen and the DoorDash CEO, Tony Xu, are among other tech moguls who have donated millions to oppose the tax. California has the most billionaires out of any state – more than 200 – many of whom have increased their wealth in recent years amid the AI boom.
Notably, Jensen Huang, the billionaire CEO of Nvidia, has said he’s fine with the proposed tax and that he chose to live in Silicon Valley. During a talk at the Stanford Graduate School of Business in April, he said: “I say to everybody: ‘Move to California. Don’t leave.’ It’s the highest taxes in the world, but it’s OK.”
@7: “Deporting Elon Musk back to South Africa or Canada is an obviously great idea.”
This Canadian doesn’t want him. Though if he says something stupid enough while here, he might find himself on the sharp end of a hate-speech charge.
Any chance that the UK could charge him with incitement, to be arrested if he sets foot on British soil?
When someone suggested sending Ray Comfort back to New Zealand and New Zealand responded that they didn’t want him, the wisest solution offered was to send him half-way.
This would work for Musk and South Africa.
I have to wonder exactly how common it is for an immigrant with a high melanin content to commit such a crime against an person in Northern Ireland with a low melanin content, and how that compares to the same crime committed by those with low melanin on those also with low melanin?
https://www.psni.police.uk/system/files/2026-05/525903612/Police%20Recorded%20Crime%20Bulletin%20Period%20Ending%2031st%20March%202026.pdf does not differentiate offender by race, and rightly so.
But it does say that in the 12 months from 1st April 2025 to 31st March 2026…
We can be sure that there has been a recent sharp uptick in violence without injury and stalking and harassment.
There’s a far simpler way of dealing with Musk.
Ignoring him.
Yep, Akira. Much simpler.
Instead of angsting about him.
Can’t dispute that.
A trillionaire can pay 99.9999% in taxes and still be a millionaire. I say go for it.
TBH Musk’s involvement in promoting the Northern Ireland and Glasgow riots was negligible/unnoticed over here. The victim had criminal connections in both Glasgow and Belfast, which inevitably meant there was also a sectarian element involved which kicked things off with the fascistic ultra-nationalistic thugs nominally following some flavour of Christianity endemic in both cities. It doesn’t take much to get them going, a flag flown or a song sung on the wrong street can be enough.
The bigger problem is what billionaire money can buy them politically. Reform UK (Party) Ltd is entirely financed by billionaires, effectively have their own TV station (GB News – losses of £121 million+ and will never make a profit) and unlimited support from Murdoch’s papers, turning every newsstand into a Reform propaganda hub. The owner/chairman/leader of Reform (Nigel Farage) has adopted a low profile since the generous personal “gift” of £5 million to him from a crypto billionaire based in Thailand was revealed. These are the dicks behind BREXIT and it’s looking more and more like that was financed by the Kremlin (one of them is doing a 10 year stretch for accepting Russian bribes).
Musk’s support has gone to Rupert Lowe’s Restore Party since Reform weren’t anywhere near racist enough for him. Restore are happily accepting all the BNP (neo-nazi) nutjobs rejected by Reform and are about as electable as the BNP were, but they do have the virtue of splitting the far-right vote.
UK politics/society like the rest of the world’s “liberal democracies” is under attack from an unholy alliance of billionaires, grifters and foreign governments who all have their own agendas and whilst I would love to ignore them, unfortunately they represent a very real threat to me and mine.
It feels like there’s a “cool war” being fought (shout-out to the great Fred Pohl) as small-time criminals are being paid by Russian agents to firebomb the PM’s rental house, the economy is being sabotaged and things generally deliberately enshittified to benefit various groups and individuals.
@John Morales : I don’t think #23. Akira MacKenzie was referring to “ignoring him” as the simpler method.
Unfortunately ignoring Musk – like ignoring Trump or Rhinehart etc .. makes him / them go away and stop being massive problems making our world far worse.
I also think you probly already knew that and knew what wa simplied but is problematic to say but .. (Shrugs.)
Of course that simpler solution that I think Akira MacKenzie meant has some potentially catastrophic consequences too.. and isn’t that easy to accomplish either. Nor should it be advocated for let alone planned on a public blog because again, consequences..
To what degree are Protestant Ulster types taking part in these riots versus Irish Catholics? I would assume Catholic participation to be lower, but could be wrong.