Derek R. Peterson, a professor of East African history at the University of Michigan, delivered a speech to the graduating class. It was a nice speech. He praised the activists on campus, and the students cheered.
Sing for the students of the Black Action Movement, whose members demanded a curriculum that would reflect the experience and identity of black people in this country.
Sing for the pro-Palestinian student activities who have over these past two years opened our hearts to the injustice and inhumanity of Israel’s war in Gaza.
The greatness of this institution does not only rest on the shoulders and on the accomplishments of our student athletes who deserve all the congratulations we can offer them.
It was honest, accurate, acknowledged student activists, and didn’t demean any of the people in the crowd. Except…hoo boy, it enraged Zionists and Republicans and Israeli donors to the university. The response was ridiculously over the top.
The same day, the university’s president, Domenico Grasso, issued a public apology, saying the comments were
inappropriate and do not represent our institutional position.
We regret the pain this has caused on a day devoted to celebration and accomplishment,Grasso said, adding that Peterson’s speechdeviated from the remarks he had shared before the ceremony.The swift apology did not stop some Republican officials, including Florida Sen. Rick Scott, from calling for the school to be stripped of federal funding. A Republican member of the Board of Regents, which governs the public university, also hinted at possible discipline for the professor. The prominent Israeli-American investor Adam Milstein urged Jewish people to halt any donations to the school.
This is madness. Are they claiming that there is no unjust and inhumane war in Gaza? It’s ongoing. People are starving, they’re being shot by the IDF, their homes are being bombed and bulldozed. Professor Peterson said no lie. Is the institutional position
pro genocide? Peterson has made an excellent reply to the hysterical nonsense.
I have respect for Regent Hubbard and her colleagues: theirs is not an easy job, and we here at Michigan benefit from their leadership.
I would however urge Regent Hubbard to review the comments I actually made at yesterday’s commencement. It should not be controversial to have one’s “heart opened to the inhumanity and injustice of Israel’s war in Gaza”, which is what I credited activists with doing. Having an open heart to other people’s suffering is a fundamental human virtue. It is a quality that I hope we teach our students, whatever their political posture might be.
So I am mystified about what I have done to earn Regent Hubbard’s ire. I have – like many of us here in Michigan – been convicted by the evidence of human suffering in Gaza; and I credit my awareness of that to pro-Palestinian activists. That is why I gave the speech that I did. On a day meant to honor students for their accomplishments, I thought it important that we would honor the student activists who have, over the course of time, pushed the institution toward justice.
The University has taken down the commencement video. But here is my talk, if you’d like to hear the whole of it. As you will see, it is a talk about the salience of student activism in this institution’s long history.
Allow me to add, if I may:
The idea that graduations should be apolitical is ridiculous. Michigan is not a finishing school for polite young men and women. Our students are not wilting flowers. They have just finished their degrees at the foremost public university in the country. They can handle controversy.
They do not need sentimental, cloying nostalgia. They need encouragement to face a flawed and unjust world head on, using the tools we’ve given them: critical reasoning, careful research, sympathy for the oppressed.
That is why I spoke as I did. If parents want sentimental graduation ceremonies, perhaps they should send their kids to a different institution. Here at UM we teach our students to face controversies, not run away from them. That’s what being the leaders and the best is about.”
There are a lot of people pushing the idea that a university should be apolitical; they are typically the kind of craven cowards who want to maintain the status quo, no matter how intolerable it might be. Alternatively, they have a political agenda which they want to promote by silencing critics, and they are backed by wealthy and influential supporters who do not question the vicious militants who want to carry out an ethnic cleansing in Israel.
I am shocked by the authoritarian, anti-free-speech actions taken by the University of Michigan and others (what the hell does Rick Scott have to do with Michigan?) who are loudly screeching about their intent to persecute Derek Peterson and the faculty and students of the University of Michigan.
We really need to kick these weird Zionist fanatics out of power.
A handful of students at U.S. universities also faced discipline in 2025 for seeking to highlight pro-Palestinian issues at graduation ceremonies, including a graduate of New York University whose diploma was withheld for criticizing Israel in a speech.
Expressing criticism in a speech is pretty much the definition of free speech, and those creepy zealots are the real opponents of freedom.
Palestinians are one group of people that it is
perfectly okimperative to hate, dehumanize, and wish erasure upon. Expression of the slightest sympathy for them makes you an antisemite.Actually I should have put “Palestinians” in scare quotes as only the Jewish diaspora has any claim to Eretz Yisrael because the Bible and a rump presence there amongst non-existent Arabs before the aliyah waves.
Jordan was stolen land given to the Hashemites therefore Jordan is now begrudgingly “Palestine”. It was included on the Irgun and Herut logos.
I applaud that professor’s bravery to speak those honest, positive caring words. This country is looking more and more like a plutocratic, fascist-run Death Spiral nightmare of hate and violence and insensitivity to the people besieged by the hate and violence of the magats. I keep hearing Martha and the Vandellas singing in my head.
I am so angered by the aholes that will not accept that opposing the zionist israeli governments need to commit theft of land and genocidal murders against all their ‘enemies’ is not the same as antisemitism. There are still decent, caring Jews in israel as well as everywhere else in this crumbling world. There are too many xtian terrorist zionist aholes that wield too much power in this country.
As a German, I’ve learned at school that genocide is bad, and that you’re supposed to at least speak out against mass atrocities.
This position appears to be as popular as ever…
When your problem with genocide is what side of the concentration camp fence you were on, you’re doing it wrong.
Okay.
I’m not sure how to put this, but I think the conflict in Gaza stopped being a war almost immediately.
I know the media keeps reporting it as such, but it became murder, not war.
The current problem is that the lie persists.
Michigander here. Rick Scott can fuck all the way off. Since assholes from other states can call for stuff, I hereby call for revoking Florida’s statehood.
Yes, that is exactly what they’re claiming. Here in the UK, we’ve recently been treated to a lot of screaming denunciations of anybody who even tries to put any casualty figures on Israel’s actions in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon, to the extent that even entirely mainstream news reporting is being called “pro-Hamas propaganda” – all in the service of attempts to discredit Zack Polanski, the Jewish leader of the Green Party of England and Wales, and to ban any protest in favour of Palestinian rights. The position seems to be that any mention of Palestinian casualties is “blood libel” and automatically antisemitic.
@ ^ Dunc : FWIW & If memory serves; the IDF itself accepted a Palestinian death tollin gaza that agreed witht hat cited by Hamas a few months or so ago.
Hang on..
Source : https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-believes-70000-gazans-killed-in-war-as-claimed-by-hamas/
Guess we have to now ask if the IDF and the Times of Israel are now anti-Semitic eh?
Is this not a thing that’s widely known? I knew it so I figure plenty of others therefore do too. .
I repeat gere what should be widely known by now but is swept under the carpet.
The DNA of iron-age people in Palestine match that of current Palestinians. They underwent two religion swaps and a language transition as a result of ‘elite dominance’- first by Romans/Byzantines, then by Arabs.
Apart from a small group that retained the Jewish religion all the time while staying, the current Israeli Jews have a strong signature of European DNA.
The name Palestine goes back to at least Ramses III (Peleset) and a tenth-century kingdom in the Levant. Isra-El is a term used by the local worshippers of El (later Jahweh).
The leading coterie of the British Labour party were financed by a group of millionaires while the socialist Corbin was party leader, attracting the hatred of the wealthy. They also have strong lies with the Israeli lobby. After Corbin and his supporters were purged, Labour has been staunchly pro-Israeli.
After a recent event – a schizophrenic muslim man who was released from hospital too early and stabbed a muslim and two Jews – the prime minister focused on the stabbing of the Jews, with support of the conservative press and BBC.
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This was a welcome opportunity to change the debate from the Epstein friend Mandelson who had been appointed ambassador to USA by Keir Starmer against the recommendation of the civil service.
Myself @ 11
I forgot, I meant to say this is another example of being obisquious to Israel and Netanyahu.
That is true but it goes deeper than that.
The ancient DNA is Canaanite and it matches the current residents of the Israel area.
It matches with the Palestinians, the Jews, and the Lebanese.
Hebrew is a Canaanite language and the Jews were just another tribe of Canaanites.
The Ashkenazi Jews and Mizrahi Middle Eastern Jews are about equal in Israel’s population.
It’s ironic that the current residents of the Israel area are descended from Canaanites and are closely related to each other although there have been other genetic inputs over the millennia.
Nothing about the UM administration response surprises me in the slightest. The Epstein class is more islamaphobic than it is antisemitic. Reminder that there was plenty of support of Zionists from extreme antisemites who wanted the Jews to all leave their countries, it wasn’t just Jews themselves wanting a place to live (disregarding who was already there).
Video of Derek Peterson’s commencement speech is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu0xsQtkMC4
His speech was excellent in thanking students for advocating for the disempowered at UMich, from the first woman to apply back in the 19th century, to the first Jewish professor, to the Palestinians plight today. The university should thank him, but of course donation money talks loudest.
Thinking people talking about Gaza I can’t help but notice how it’s “funny” that all the anti-Democratic “third spoiler party” douches and trolls seem to have forgotten all about Gaza now Trump is – predictably and as predicted – committing a far worse genocide there. Certainly more complicit and doing more to help Trump than former President Joe Biden ever did – remembering the facts that Biden took action in withholding some weapons, sanctioning some extremist Israeli settlers and calling for restraint from and openly criticising Netanyahu.
Wonder when they are going to speak up against and try to punish “Genocide Don” – or was it all just a pro-Repug thing to help the fascist party all along? It’s
almostexactly like they never actually cared about Gazans at all & their whole shtick was just about helping Trump.Anyone reckon the Abandon Biden-Harris movement is going to change into an Abandon Trump one or are they happy with having made things far worse for the people and cause they claimed to support?
Help Netanyahu that is – the Abandon -Biden-Harris, Stein’s klowns folks helped Trump to help Netanyahu.
@ 17 StevoR
So your conspiracy theory you’re putting forward in all seriousness is that the Arab Americans behind the Abandon Biden movement actually had no problem with genocide in Gaza and just wanted to support Trump.
Well let’s check shall we? One of the most prominent was Rashida Tlaib.
https://www.newarab.com/news/us-rashida-tlaib-urges-michigan-vote-uncommitted
What’s she up to these day? Wearing a MAGA hat?
Oh look, no.
https://x.com/RepRashida/status/2051719760136503599?
Seems your conspiracy theory is every bit as batshit as it sounds.
@17 StevoR
All you’re demonstrating is that you don’t pay attention to the discourse — that it doesn’t all happen here on Pharyngula only means we don’t want to waste our time relitigating Hillary’s humiliating defeat with a bunch of Third Way neoliberal boomers. That and you’ve already memory-holed Biden’s active participation in genocide.
Stevo, you wanted to bomb them back to the Stone Age. You’ve gotten everything you wished for. You are the dog who caught the mailman.
You have less than zero right to complain that the rest of us don’t care about the plight of Gazans.
beholder, it’s simple, you piece of gutter slime decided to vote for Trump because you claimed the democratic party was ineligible due to Gaza and Israel’s actions there.Yet here we are and Trump is doing worse, enables Netanyahu more and all of that was PERFECTLY PREDICTABLE!
Of course, like all good pieces of narcissistic manure, it’s everyone else’s fault.You did nothing wrong, you did everything correct and it’s everyone else’s fault that you contributed to the fascist takeover of the US.
AugustusVerger @21
Did beholder actually vote for Trump?
He smugly bragged about how he threw his vote away. So yes, he voted for Trump because that’s what you get in a two-party FPTP system.
@22 Hemidactylus
No. Delusional Stevos and their sad hangers-on may claim otherwise, but they weren’t looking over my shoulder when I cast the ballot.
@21, 23
TrivialBurger, you know better than to indulge StevoR’s untreated mental illness. Stop it.
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beholder, you advocated against voting Democratic. I remember.
Yes, ’twas the Vicar (self singular appellation) who explicitly was accelerationist, and you the chihuahua behind, but still. That specimen is gone, you remain. So StevoR has latched onto you.
Still. Your puffed-up evasive bluster is weak as.
See? No substance, other than the inadvertent irony.
(You call that an insult? ;)
@ 22. Hemidactylus : “Did beholder actually vote for Trump?””
Yes, the Trump enabling bad faith troll “beholder” faced with the choice between Trump and Kamala did NOT vote for Kamala – indeed he argue dfor years against her including during the campiaign. This ineffect, in practice, inreality means they voted for Trump.
You can find their admission of this here :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/05/16/mokele-mbembe/#comment-2265449
Along with them stating they still consider Kamala and Trump equivalent or very nearly equivalent in “irredeemable evil” here :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/12/30/infinite-thread-xxxviii/comment-page-1/#comment-2288948
Which is clearly demonstrably false sicne Kamala is NOT a rapist or corrupt or a denier of science.
Plus Inote the Trump enabling troll is yet to answer thes e questiosn depsite being put intheir preferred and requested form :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2026/04/17/humans-are-awful-creatures/#comment-2299314
AugustusVerger and StevoR
So beholder didn’t actually vote for Trump. But beholder’s not voting for Harris will be relitigated on just about every 2nd or 3rd thread ad nauseam. An inconsequential commenter’s drop in the bucket 3rd party vote doesn’t seem to warrant such obsessive scrutiny. May as well tar and feather or place in the stocks as a stand-in for frustration with much larger forces at play. Displaced anger.
And there is much to be said about milquetoast third way neoliberalism.
@24. Trump-Helping Bad Faith Troll “beholder” : ” they weren’t looking over my shoulder when I cast the ballot.”
You have admitted many times here that yes, you DID de facto vote for Trump – and you also de facto in reality, in practice, in effect argued and advocated for GenocideS Don Trump by continually attacking – & you still attack – the ONLY actual alternative to Trump in US politics. We don’t have to “look over your shoulder” to know what you have fessed up to already on your own – and what you argued for years here and are yet to acknowledge and apologise for after getting catastrophically wrong to detriment of everyone on this Earth.
You must know because you have been well and truly told that the only real electoral democratic way to stop Trump’s fascism was to unite behind and support Kamala. You chose to undermine and attack her instead.
You still lie about Trump and Kamala being roughly equivalent in “irredeemable evil” something easily disproven by the briefest comparison of their records, words and deeds as I noted here :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/12/30/infinite-thread-xxxviii/comment-page-1/#comment-2289010
For starters, Kamala is NOT a rapist, a racist White Supremacist bigot or in the Epstein files at least hundreds of times whereas Trump is.
Attacking my personal mental health is neither relevant nor an actual argument here just you being an absolute douchebag proving your own lack of decency & ethics as well as lack of logic and critical thinking ability. You really are a vile disingenuous Trumpist troll that should have been kicked off here years ago. Your lack of any criticism for Trump and the Repugs has long been an obvious tell.
Another lie from the TEBFTB here – Biden as I’ve repeatedly observed called for restraint and criticised Netanyahu and sanctioned some Israeli extremist settlers and even withheld some weapons from the IDF after doing what any POTUS would have done following the Hamas attack of 7th October 2023. Netanyahu is responsible for genocide. Biden is NOT and Kamala is very definitely NOT.
Another question I’m sure the THBFTB will never answer :
Who was worse for Gazans and Palestinians generally – Trump or Biden?
The answer is obviously Trump – who Mehdi Hasan accurately stated was and is the most anti-Palestinian POTUS ever and who was Netanyahu’s as well as the Bad Faith Trump Helping Troll Beholder’s choice for POTUS. Not Biden who Trump famously accused of BEING a Palestinian and certainly NOT Kamala who was accused by the reichwing of being far too pro-Palestinian and who personally stated that she found Palestinian suffering heart-breaking and who also supported the two state solution as opposed to Trump stating he wanted Netanyahu to “..finish the job!” In THBFTB’s preferred presidential candidates own words.
We’re not talking about Hillary here, we’re talking about Kamala Harris vs Trump.
Neither woman’s defeat was “humiliating” given both elections were actually extremely close and Hillary Rodham Clinton won the popular vote whilst Kamala was robbed by voter suppression, possibly Musk cheating and the Abandon Biden-Harris mob and third party spoilers who made history’s most counter-productive mistake ever for the environmental consequences alone.
Anyhow beholder you got the “Genocides Don” Trump presidency you obviously wanted – are you happy with it?
Oh and in case you thought I’d forgotten – how come you seem so happy for Trump to genocide Gazans that you NEVER raise that issue or condemn Trump for doing that genocide and making things so much genocidally worse for so many more than Biden ever did just as we warned you he would?
PS. Where’s the Abandon Trump movement equivalent to the Abandon Biden-Harris one? Oh, did he deport them as we warned them he would given the fucking Muslim ban thing first time around?
PPS. What use and good has Jill “Trump helping spoiler and Putin shill” Stein ever been to Gaza & the Palestinians her campaign helped genocide by putting Trump in power?
@19. Silentbob :
Nope. Wrong again on many levels, Silentbob. Fractally wrong indeed.
Not my theory but your strawperson caricature of my views (do TRY to read for comprehension for once.. I know you struggle with it) and not necessarily all that many Arab-Americans. Just read my actual words in #17 above again a few more times or a few more than a few or a LOT more than a few until you actually fucking get it.
Overly generous hint to you, my words there were “..anti-Democratic “third spoiler party” douches and trolls” which, yes, seems to apply to you doesn’t it?
Oh look, you, er, helped prove my point in that the Democratic party is Rashida Tlaib’s party as well as Kamala’s whereas the Repugs are the party of Randy Fine as well as Dictator Trump among others.
So which party should those wanting to help Palestinians vote for? Oh yes, the Democratic one.
@27. Hemidactylus :
Actually as noted about a thousand times already they really, in effect, in reality actually DID vote for GenocideS Don. Okay, indirectly via Stein but in reality a vote for Stein WAS a vote for Trump. Fact. What part of that do you not understand? Seriously.
What.
Part.
Don’t.
You.
Understand.
There?
I hope not but when they appear and spew their bullshit I’ll call them on it and remind them. The Disingenuous Trump helping troll can end this at any time by acknowledging reality, apologising and changing their views.
What makes you think it was “inconsequential” when things were actually close.
Also it wasn’t JUST their vote it was their years or advocating for Trump de facto by ONLY attacking the ONLY alternative.
Why do you think that should be memory-holed, forgotten and NOT called out please?
@26 StevoR
You’re going to have to quote me saying that, without your editorial bullshit. I don’t recall specifically claiming any equivalence between the two.
Here you go beholder. Shove it up your memory hole.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/12/30/infinite-thread-xxxviii/comment-page-1/#:~:text=is%20off%20topic%3A-,I%20don%E2%80%99t%20believe%20Mobster%20Don%20is%20preferable%20to%20a%20hypothetical%20Killer%20Kamala%20admin.%20I%20regard%20them%20both%20as%20irredeemably%20evil,-because%20they%20were
beholder, bluff has been called by Nick.
(Quoted have you been)
The wanker beholder would not vote for Harris to keep Trump out of office because Trump and Harris are both
Not an equivalence, apparently.
Beholder did also say “I don’t believe Mobster Don is preferable to a hypothetical Killer Kamala admin” which could lead IMO to a lesser of two evils decision. Worked for me. But beholder didn’t actually vote for Trump or Harris. I’ll leave it for others to carry on the effigy burning of beholder for their own cathartic needs. Are we shaming beholder here or trying to persuade or…?
You believe the wanker beholder could be persuaded to vote Dem? Seriously?
The wanker beholder is here to huff their own farts and chunter on about Killer Kamala while feeling smugly superior that by voting green they sure showed those Gazans what a great ally they are. Harris is irredeemably evil!! No better than Trump would be!!!
@ 31. Disingenuous Trump Helping Troll “beholder” :
I already did in my #28 & #26. but third time for you anyhow :
Source : https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/12/30/infinite-thread-xxxviii/comment-page-1/#comment-2288948
Note the use of language slandering Kamala Harris inaccurately as a killer when she ahs killed no one and especially no one in Gaza.
Note also the false premise – Israel its own arms industry including nuclear WMDs.
So as usual, the Trump- helping Troll is fractally wrong and blatantly trolling us all here. Why they are allowed to keep doing so I really don’t know.
From my limited perspective it looks like beholder was baited into the thread which became (albeit willingly on their part) largely about them. An inevitable eternal recurrence.
“All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again”- BSG
What, you weren’t amused that was taken literally?
Come on! it was perfect. Epic fail at bluster and gaslighting. Splat!
It has not. What? <checks>
The line is a Battlestar Galactica (2003–2009) mantra. It’s a recurring religious–philosophical formula in the show, used especially by Cylons, expressing the series’ core idea of cyclical history: civilizations create artificial life, the creations rebel, catastrophe follows, survivors flee, and the pattern repeats.
(So sayeth the bot)
I myself would not know that allusion, not having wasted my time on that show, but that’s obviously parodying Nietzsche’s eternal recurrence conceit. Derivative.)
@35. Hemidactylus : ”Are we shaming beholder here or trying to persuade or…?”
Ideally, I’m trying to make them see the reality, acknowledge what they’ve done, apologise for it and change their views and behaviour accordingly.
Also trying to warn others and hold those responsible (at least in part) for Trump’s election accountable to whatever small degree I can given the horror they have imposed on our entire globe and try to prevent the recurrence of any Bothersiderist or Only-Unicorn-will-do-ist nonsense in the future IF (& its big IF) there’s ever anther real chance. We should have all learnt the lessons with Nader’s interference in the Gore vs Dubya election, then Stein & to a degree Bernie w with HRC vs Trump the first time round and we didn’t so.. Can we please, fucking NOT repeat the mistakes of third party spoilers ever again people? Please?
Note that there are some very clear patterns here where the Trump Helping Disingenuous Troll “beholder” (THDTB) has repeatedly lied here eg on which USA state is worst for education :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/10/06/the-future-looks-bleak/#comment-2280113
made rude demands of others for things that they provide the THDTB info or answer questions they already know (eg #31 & #24 upthread), tried to wriggle out of accepting responsibility for what they did and repeatedly refusing to answer questions asked of them for example most recently here :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2026/04/17/humans-are-awful-creatures/#comment-2299314
They are well known for only ever attacking and denigrating the Democratic party and NOT the Repugs and attacking Biden and Kamala but NOT Trump raising well justified suspicions that they actually voted for Trump directly and they actually clearly are helping Trump directly by only attacking his political opponents and never him.
It seems very clear that the dishonest, cowardly troll “beholder” is NOT here in good faith, refuses to engage with any integrity or honour and are toying with and trolling us all. Has been doing so for years.
I am not the only one to have noticed this for instance, vucodlak #29 here :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2026/01/15/remember-when-democrats-were-criticizing-people-for-calling-republicans-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-2290111
Whilst it is obviously PZ ‘s blog and rules I really do wonder why we still have to put up with such an obnoxious blatant troll that has long since been exposed for being just that – at best.
Hemidactylus, white-knight for someone who deserves it. Not a stinking piece of pus like beholder. Beholder helped end the life of Alex Pretti. Beholder put the gun in the hands that murdered Renee Goode. Beholder empowered those who would throw flashbangs at freakin’ babies in the crib. Beholder enabled the concentration camps for “illegal” migrants (read: anyone with a sklightly darker skintone and a non-anglo saxon name). Beholder allowed Trump to bomb all those schoolchildren in Iran. Beholder kicked millions of Americans off healthcare. Beholder and the other 90 million conceited morons who threw their vote away in November 2024 and gave Trump the White House out of spite and intellectual laziness. I honestly hate them more than the 70 million MAGA thugs who voted for Trump, those were at least honest about their hateful stupidity.
@42 Burger
My legend grows in the telling. Beholder assassinated Abe Lincoln, too, I bet. Apparently I didn’t vote for Trump so hard that it was me who did all those historical events. Alway rember the first rule of politics: individually we are powerless, unless you are me, and then I can do anything.
Get your priorities straight. That or at least admit that you enjoy bullying some random nobody on the internet, and that you get a vicarious thrill out of it that you wouldn’t get from a Trump supporter because a Trump supporter would steal your lunch money and stuff you upside-down into a locker.
Says the specimen who wrote #20.
Your attempted bullying of StevoR is fucking evident, O hypocrite.
Heh.
What you call “StevoR’s untreated mental illness” is not fucking putting up with your gaslighting bullshit; that is mental health, not illness.
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Your infamy is ever more evident.
Hey beholder. Remember this at 31?
So several of us did just that: we quoted you claiming exactly the equivalence that you disputed ever claiming. Including ZtevoR’s psychic predictive quote in comment 26.
According to you, Harris, whose stance was necessarily nuanced to include the conflicted ‘American” positions of anti-terrorism and pro-humanitarianism, is equivalent to the orange menace who said he supports naziyahhoo to “get the job done” in Gaza so it can be turned into the new Riviera.
I would expect trumplethinskin to have a simple-minded binary view of the conflict. I find it interesting that you are also evidently so simple-minded.