It looks like that Anti-Theism International Conference is deservedly self-destructing. Maryam Namazie and Aron Ra have withdrawn from the event.
Just returned from a funeral in Toronto when I Tweeted below; lost another beloved friend early morning yesterday but have now carefully listened to David’s interview & @Rachel0ates video with conference organiser & have decided I won’t be speaking. Will post reasons asap. https://t.co/vANbCHqD3V
— Maryam Namazie (@MaryamNamazie) December 3, 2019
As I told Hemant Mehta and David Worley, I had already planned on dropping out of the UK Anti-Theism event a week ago. The organizers gave me money to book the flight, and I had to put it back into my PayPal account to "refund this payment". It took me until today to do that.
— Aron Ra (@Aron_Ra) December 3, 2019
No word from Richard Dawkins yet.
Looking forward to this anti-theism convention in Brighton, 4th-5th April 2020. See you there?https://t.co/lAP6BQyF54
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) November 16, 2019
They really needed a better marketing director.
larpar says
In case anyone is interested, John Richards, one of the organizers, has commented on FriendlyAtheist. He says he is open to questions. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/12/03/anti-theism-conference-organizer-defends-sexual-misconduct-in-bizarre-rant-2/
PZ Myers says
Stephanie Zvan has extracted the relevant parts of the conversation. Don’t read the Friendly Atheist comments unless you want to enjoy a mob of unconstrained trolls and assholes babbling away. I guess Hemant doesn’t believe in curating his comments at all, and it makes his site pretty much unbearable.
hemidactylus says
Hmmm…the comments on Mehta’s blog don’t load for me, probably because my browser. The upside is that the nasty popups and redirects that have bedeviled that site (Patheos wide?) don’t either (grrrrr!!!). But Mehta often has some pretty good content he and his Friendly Atheist blogging pals provide, regardless of whatever happens in the comments.
larpar says
@PZ, #2
Sorry about linking to FA. My experience at FA is obviously different from yours. Most of the time it’s pretty civilized, lots of smart articulate commentators, but when a troll shows up, it’s much like your old thunderdome. People do get banned, maybe not to you’re standards, but it dose happen.
Anyway, thanks for your blog, more birds less spiders. (I actually like the spider posts).
psychomath says
I don’t know what it looked like at FA when PZ posted, but the top comments now seem fine, at least. I did read Ms. Zahn’s comments, and zounds! is Richards an ass. I really despise the “The conference isn’t about harassment, so why are we talking about it?” approach. Also he snidely responds to the criticism that representatives and speakers were not screened by saying he fired the rep who made excuses for sexual assault. Screening is supposed to happen before you engage them, doofus!
Nathan says
I wanna know why Maryam Namazi dropped out? What video with (about?) Rachel Oates did she watch? I’m honestly curious…
sarah00 says
It appears that the website is “under construction” now. It was up a few weeks ago complete with schedule for the event and speaker profiles so it’s clearly been taken down as part of the implosion. I suspect (hope?) that this is the last we’ll see of this conference.
PZ Myers says
#4: No, it’s inexcusable. He’s still got Rich Sanderson, who has been an obsessive kook for at least a decade. The “friendly” atheist is one of the few places where he can still run rampant. I have to assume Hemant doesn’t mind keeping a guy around who accuses PZ Myers of rape every day.
Patheos used to be our ad manager. They did such a bad job, they’re a primary reason we got rid of our ads altogether.
Matt G says
I get so sad when bad things happen to bad people.
Also, thanks, a-holes, for making atheists look like the kind of human scum you are.
Cat Mara says
Methinks we need a companion to FREEZE PEACH for those clutching their pearls over “due process”. DUPE RECESS?
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite says
@Cat Mara
I like “dude process”, but it’s too specific.
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/09/dude-process
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite says
Well, dude process is great for this situation. It’s just that the rafts of sealions whine about process they don’t cite in more than gendered situations.
ephemerides says
Dupe rawcess? Has the added advantage(?) of evoking the image of a raw abscess.