Oh, so you’re afraid of whites being a minority?
Why? Are minorities treated as second-class citizens or something?
Brilliant.
Nice meme
Pharyngula
Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal
Oh, so you’re afraid of whites being a minority?
Why? Are minorities treated as second-class citizens or something?
Brilliant.
I think it works. If someone’s worried about whites becoming a minority, it certainly sounds like an admission that being the majority gives them the power to abuse minority rights. One of the reasons democracy is supposed to work on large scales is that people realize there’s self-interest involved in protecting minorities, namely that everyone is in some kind of minority. If you allow the government to disrespect the rights of one minority, you’re setting a precedent for the government to disrespect your rights.
But the powers that be want people to be too short-sighted to realize that.
I’m more afraid of falling into a river of chocolate or being turned into a giant blueberry and juiced.
And this is why I hate feminism. After all, haha, if those, hoho, feminists get their way, hehe, men will be treated like women, guffaw! And who would want THAT!?
Oh, incidentally, rape culture, patriarchy, systemic oppression of women and sundry feminist lies are, well, lies. They don’t exist.
Don’t remove systemic oppressions because then the oppressors will become the oppressees and those systemic oppressions don’t exist. At the same time.
Don’t remove systemic oppressions, oppressors become oppressees, systemic oppressions don’t exist. At the same time.
Don’t remove them. Oppressors. Oppressees. Don’t exist. The same time.
Don’t remove oppressors. The same.
Don’t. Same.
I SEE NO FUCKING PROBLEMS HERE AT ALL. NONE.
Louis
The Hooray Henrys, (as pictured), are in a minority, but are running everything. He probably wouldn’t know anything about what it’s like for minorities, much less care about it. They think everyone else, i.e. folks like us, are all second class citizens anyway, regardless of minority status or not.
@Louie
Oppression is a lie, but we can’t change the status quo or the privileged will become the oppressed.
You minorities should stop playing the victim card, but making me treat other people as people is bullying and witch-hunting and lynching.
Christians are persecuted and downtrodden in a country full of heathens that force them to abandon the Christian way of life, but we are a Christian nation so we get to call the shots and tell everyone else how to live because we’re the majority and powerful.
And so on.
Hey man, nice shot.
Oppression doesn’t exist and won’t exist until the oppressed have equal rights. We can’t let that happen. Why do you SJWs (shudder) like oppression?
Why are the white supremacists so sure that, if they were the minority, they would be abused and oppressed the same way they do to minorities now? Perhaps it’s because, deep down, they feel that they’ve got it coming.
I have recently discovered that a professor of biology and chemistry at a public school in Canada is a creationist. He claims his principal and superintendent are also creationists. Should I inform someone? Who should I inform?
Elementalbrain, if he teaches the science curriculum as the guidelines state, and leaves his personal beliefs at home, you don’t have to tell anyone.
The Canadian guidelines in most provinces, to my knowledge, are pretty reasonable.
Amphiox, I found him commenting on Eric Hovinds Facebook page, and that is not a good indicator. But, yea, I do not know how and what he teaches. I do not live anywhere near Canada, so I am not familiar with their school system.
Well, I am Canadian. And what we don’t do here is accuse people of professional misbehaviour based on the fact that their personal beliefs might be odious.
If you know that this person is teaching things outside the curriculum, then the local board of education might well like to know that. If you don’t, then it would be hideously inappropriate, and basically the sort of thing intolerant religionists might do, to impugn him based on his private beliefs. In fact, that happens here; people get fired by religious schools for being secretly queer, or for transitioning, not because they’re secretly – or openly – theistic. Just because they do it, in no way makes me want to be part of such intolerance.
Our Prime Minister, for instance, “The Harpertron 5000” as I like to think of him, has awful beliefs of the fundagelical Christianist theocratic variety. But what I dislike about him are his policies, his legislation, and his misrepresentation of Canada with his xenophobic, nativist, nationalistic, warmongering, and bigoted behaviour. If he had those beliefs in private, I’d care a lot less.
Oh, snap! Well done.
Thanks, Iyéska.
What I think of this individual for believing in creationism is that it makes him kind of a sad sucker (or mark, in the grifting sense). And if we’re going to investigate every teacher who’s a sucker, then we need to look at all the ones going to chiropractors and Reiki therapists, and buying lottery tickets in pools, and reading their astrological forecasts, and voting Conservative, and all the other stupid self-harming things that people do and believe.
What I don’t think is that it makes any of them inherently unable to teach.
CaitieCat, I of course did not mean we should go and somehow immediately get him fired, I more wanted someone to check what exactly they are teaching them in that school.
No. Why? Are we McCarthyites now? Are you now, or have you ever been, a creationist? No. We don’t hunt people for their beliefs, or investigate them for them. Because if we do, who do you think is going to get investigated more, Christians or queer/atheist/anarchist/social justice people?
I think the students and parents in the school are perfectly capable of looking after their own interests, honestly.
“I think the students and parents in the school are perfectly capable of looking after their own interests, honestly.”
Well, when I look at the place where the school is located it seems to be in some sort of a creationist hotspot, so I doubt that is true. And I don’t really agree with your opinion. I mean, if he posted about how how vaccines cause autism and he taught immunology would you not question his ability to teach? If you teach well then it does not matter if you are investigated.
elementalbrain @15:
Do you have actual evidence that the teacher is doing something wrong?
Or are you claiming that because the teacher is a creationist, they shouldn’t be teaching?
elementalbrain @17:
Only if it were demonstrated that his harmful beliefs were being taught in class. Has this been the case with your creationist?
elementalbrain, please use a person’s nym when replying, and quoting properly really helps.
To quote, use <blockquote>Place Text Here</blockquote>, which yields:
What part of it is irrelevant if he teaches the curriculum don’t you understand? If you don’t understand that, you don’t grasp how the real world operates.
I would add the word “correctly” to the proviso “it is irrelevant if he teaches the curriculum”.
And the concern that the “teacher” might not be teaching the curriculum correctly is understandable, but evidence is required before proceeding. Which suggests that attempting — legally — to obtain such evidence, whichever way it points, is a possible next step.
When Whites are no longer the majority —
1) Better forget about gay rights.
2) Better forget about women’s rights, too.
And while we’re at it, bear in mind that African Americans will still not be the majority, Will liberal White folks act as human shields to protect them from being exterminated by all the other minorities?
The obvious counter to the meme — so the evil part of my brain tells me — is that, No, of course I don’t oppress anyone, but I have no guarantees about those people if they get into power. (And I do feel unclean about writing that.)
How dare anybody poke a stick at my persecution complex??!!??
Meeker Morgan, you might as well leave now. BS comments like yours aren’t going to make you any friends here.
uh… history suggests otherwise.
there have been an AWFUL lot of cases of parents and schools making very poor decisions about what is in the schools best interests in the States.
Dover ring a bell?
It’s the same everywhere I have been; Mexico, the UK, even New Zealand. Don’t even try to tell me that it’s somehow magically different in Canada.
I understand the goal you are striving for, but to think that parents and schools always have the best interests at heart?
is dangerous.
I do believe that was what they were asking for help with.
think: John Freshwater
Good thought, but probably the wrong fictional character to champion it. I mean, Willy Wonka does seem to have an army of slaves, of which he seems to think it’s perfect justifiable that they work for him based entirely on how he saved them this one time.
Meeker Morgan:
Is that you, red star? Oh, the deep and terrible angst of the white man’s burden, eh? Because everyone knows that if someone isn’t a pure type white person, well, naturally they can’t think, don’t care about anything, and will just be engaged in mass slaughter.
From deep in my mixed blood heart, I say Fuck Off, you useless racist.
Meeker Morgan @23:
You’re really scared of losing your privileged perch.
You’re also a racist scumbag who clearly thinks highly of People of Color. Why would liberal white people need to act as human shields? Do you think Black Americans are going to rise up and start treating people like you as you’ve been treating them? Why are you forgetting that the Hispanic population is rising too?
Why do you associate white people with gay rights and feminism? Have People of Color done nothing to advance them?
Why so scared?
You need to stop living on a diet of fear and FOX news. Come live in the real world.
No, it’s because they’re like the Joker from The Dark Knight: they think that everybody else is as terrible a person as they are. They therefore think that everyone else would instantly begin acting the same way they do if the situation were reversed.
Meeker Morgan
So, you’re opposed to everything we stand for, but nonetheless you’ll be “better” on “gay rights” and women’s rights.
Well, okay, vague and unenforceable, but this appears to be a promise to be the better future leader. Based on nothing more than race. So here we have white supremacists putting on their tailored, 3 button sheets to talk to the people that are clearly inferior, but still powerful enough and intelligent enough or just respected enough (which ain’t much respect) to persuade the pink voters.
Nauseating. What do you have for us next.
Also, just you watch your back. There may be a genocide. But if you stay on MY plantation, you’ll be safe right up until the moment I feel it desirable to sell you off to them dark furreners. Better than genocide, right?
Ugh: if offering the carrot was nauseating to watch, and if it was impossible to think of that carrot actually going down, when the white supremacist turns to the negroes, it gets only worse:
I would spit at thee with my last breath, but frankly the horrifying racism you spew has made this thread slimy enough…and giving the coup-de-grace to ideas as soundly attacked as yours really doesn’t tax my wind much.
Well, no. To properly question his ability to teach I’d need to see evidence of what and how he teaches. People can be very good at compartmentalizing their private and professional lives. I’ve seen teachers in Canada tell their classes “I don’t believe this but this will be on your exam and you will need to know it, and then proceed to teach the evolution chapter perfectly without a single further mention of creationist ideas.
@Meeker Morgan
Because white supremacist asshats care soooo much about women and LGBT people.
Well they don’t always, and sometimes their understanding of best interests is sincere but erroneous, but that’s what the national and provincial curriculum standards are for. One must tread lightly when all you’ve got is essentially a rumor of a pseudonym posting on the internet. “Won’t anyone think of the childen (of other people)” is the favorite battle cry of the bigots, for the oppression of homosexuals to racial segregation to the suppression of girls’ reproductive rights to, well, just about any example of social bigotry you can name.
This is ground you don’t tread flippantly without real evidence.
@32, microraptor
http://www.viruscomix.com/page553.html
Fun fact: in nursing school, I was told two things:
(1) the school did not give a crap what my personal views on vaccines are.
(2) whenever I was wearing the school uniform and providing care to patients, if the subject of vaccines came up, I would say that vaccines are a net good and encourage my patients to get vaccinated.
Yanno, I was going to do a silly parody of how a racist might try to respond to this meme, but I see that I’ve been beaten to the punch by Meeker Morgan @ 23.
The only real differences being:
1) I would have been more long-winded,
2) I would have known what I was saying was stupid.
So, congratulations – or whatever it is you say under those circumstances.
The racist idiot is just factually wrong. Data:
There are already 4 white minority states in the USA, including the two largest ones, one of which I live in no less.
1. California hasn’t backed off on gay rights or women’s rights one bit. In fact, the governor and most of the legislature are Democrats.
The only ones complaining are the Birchers in Orange county and a few other out of the way places. When they aren’t hiding from UN Agenda 21, Ebola ridden children from central America, or the Space Reptiles.
2. Texas is the other large state. A notorious stronghold for christofascists, saturated with gay hate, misogyny, and racism.
And still run by the white minority who cheat any way they can to hold onto power.
There will become a time in America when whites will be in the minority, but that won’t make them a minority.
Women are the majority. Hasn’t stopped women from being treated like second class citizens. Majority doesn’t mean much.
I forget, wasn’t there a time when white people were the majority and slavery existed?
Tony,
No. There was only ever a hazy, glorious past where people all knew their place and everything was harmonious.
Women obeyed their husbands, employees obeyed their rightful masters, children obeyed their parents, inferior races obeyed white peop….
….okay that last one, ignore that, go back to sleep….
….in the old days everything was just dandy.
Interestingly the idea of the old days seems to change with every passing generation. That’s because how I just describe the old days just how it always wasn’t.
And now, sports.
Sleep. Sleeeeeeeeep.
Louis
P.S. Am I allowed a self mocking “wake up sheeple!” Here? It would amuse me. Which is, of course, the most important thing ever.
I think that’s giving racists way too much credit for logical thought. I can imagine the doublethink being strong enough to see no contradiction at all.
Even worse, if they’re of the ‘white man’s burden’ variety, it is entirely logical to them. If they believe ‘white man’ to be superior to ‘black man’, then it follows that they, and indeed everyone, would be better off if they would ‘white man’ lead.
So yeah, nice meme, but it’s not gonna take you very far.
When it comes to that good ol’ school racism, it’s worse than cognitive dissonance. It’s entirely consistent and terrible. They acknowledge the above state of affairs if whites were the minority and were treated the same, but in their minds it’s always been a competition. To them, races are “naturally” competing with each other, and you’re either helping your race stay on top, or helping them “lose” to the other’s. Some don’t even think the other races are inferior, they just want “whites” to win.
These ones are VERY hard to argue with, because they can’t wrap their heads around the notion that “races” might just be fairly artificial, that they don’t HAVE to be in competition, any more than those with innie verses outie belly buttons need to “compete”, and most of all, that people like us are categorically NOT on their side and don’t see them as “part” of our group, as we tend to group up ideologically instead of phenotypically. ANY attempt to argue these just results in being called a “race traitor” or that I’m “blind” to the reality around me. (And yes, black people get called race traitors by this group as well. Even “the enemy” should never “betray their own” in their eyes.) Ugh, the few times I’ve interacted with this group left me… just feeling gross.
You know what I hate? Finding out some racists like things I like, but they’re liking them wrong! They shouldn’t get to like my favorite books and movies! They’re racists! They should go get their OWN entire culture!
A good meme is like a work of art. I want to high-five the creator of this one.
No, no, you just don’t understand! White people are perfectly enlightened and would never treat anyone as less than equal based on race. But we can’t expect those other inferior races to understand our enlightened ways and act in the same fashion so it’s very scary for white people to be in the minority, but everything is perfectly fine when other races are.
I feel dirty having even written that, but as far as I can tell, that’s the “logic” (using the word VERY loosely) being followed in the minds of people who insist that minorities are not badly treated but whites being in the minority is a catastrophy.
Only if you can stand the XKCD reference that will inevitably result: http://xkcd.com/1013/
It says something very, very weird about me that I read this and my first thought was “but ebola’s not endemic in Central America. They’re very confused.”
Ah, yes, Birth of a Nation.