That is a funny video. It does a great job highlighting how moronic the Republican positions are. It also does a great job of furthering the idea that the “war on women” is not some myth created by the left. Kudos to Beckinsdale for doing that.
If a Republican is going to get in a woman’s vagina shouldn’t he marry her first? The entire GOP is going to hell for adultery.
No Onesays
Question:
Did State Rep. Richard Freind really say the rape secretion thing?
diannesays
I don’t think you do, really. Keeping a Republican in your vagina isn’t really very comfortable. Just be glad they haven’t decided to crawl up your prostate yet.
consciousness razorsays
I don’t think you do, really. Keeping a Republican in your vagina isn’t really very comfortable. Just be glad they haven’t decided to crawl up your prostate yet.
There has to be some safe way to contain them. What about those little boxes the ghostbusters use?
David Marjanovićsays
The sound the government makes when it goes up the… X-D
Has State Rep. Freind resigned amid all the media laughing at him yet? Hm? Hmmmmmm?
I’m jut an innocent English boy but that video was confusing. So many questions. Why? What’s happening? Are they taking the piss out of someone? Was this for or against Republicans? Is it wrong I find Judy Greer very attractive? What’s a vagina and do I have one? There’s the two on the outside and the two on the inside, should I have more? I’m heading over to Brian Switek and Laelaps, vaginas have confused me too much, I need some dinosaurs.
'Tis Himselfsays
No One #3
Did State Rep. Richard Freind really say the rape secretion thing?
The odds that a woman who is raped will get pregnant are “one in millions and millions and millions,” said state Rep. Stephen Freind, R-Delaware County, the Legislature’s leading abortion foe.
The reason, Freind said, is that the traumatic experience of rape causes a woman to “secrete a certain secretion” that tends to kill sperm.
It took less than three minutes with google to find the answer.
Browniansays
There has to be some safe way to contain them. What about those little boxes the ghostbusters use?
Hoist with our own EPA.
Charlie Foxtrotsays
Heh – that’s great! How awesome would it be if that got some primetime ad-space :)
Really, the mocking of the republicans policies needs to be merciless.
Terskasays
My son tells me the local Barnes and Noble keeps Darwin on the religion and mythology shelves.
Is this typical elsewhere?
No Onesays
‘Tis Himself says:
6 May 2012 at 4:52 pm
No One #3
It took less than three minutes with google to find the answer.
I have no idea why I typed “Richard” into the google search field, except that I’m getting older and it’s catching up with me.
autumnsays
I must be doing it wrong. I haven’t got a vagina, but every day something indistinguishable from a republican comes out of my ass.
razzlefrogsays
“Why, I’ll be damned – I don’t have nearly enough Republicans in my vagina!” <—– I was thinking that just the other day.
robrosays
consciousness razor — “There has to be some safe way to contain them.” Condoms? I mean, they [Republicans] are a bunch of dicks.
kantalopesays
I would kind of think that the campaign should go the other way:
Republicans: no Vaginas for you….until you stop acting like a bunch of dicks.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Ovensays
Right, because reinforcing the sense that sex is something women give to men as a reward is going to do sooooo much for gender equality.
carliesays
The odds that a woman who is raped will get pregnant are “one in millions and millions and millions,” said state Rep. Stephen Freind, R-Delaware County, the Legislature’s leading abortion foe.
There are an estimated thirty-two thousand pregnancies following rape in the US per year. Does that mean that he thinks that there are at least 32 million rapes per year, and wouldn’t that mean that he thinks that rape is a pretty big deal? Can’t wait to see him shoring up rape victim support services and advocating for more anti-rape training for men and harsher punishments and actual investigations of rape and such.
andyosays
There are an estimated thirty-two thousand pregnancies following rape in the US per year. Does that mean that he thinks that there are at least 32 million rapes per year, and wouldn’t that mean that he thinks that rape is a pretty big deal?
You’re taking it the wrong way. Those weren’t rapes, because the women must secretly have enjoyed it. They just wanted money and/or take angry revenge against a guy who wouldn’t go out with them a second time.
Aliasalphasays
Does that mean that he thinks that there are at least 32 million rapes per year, and wouldn’t that mean that he thinks that rape is a pretty big deal?
Surely he’d draw the conclusion that that many rapes would make it an everyday part of life and therefore nothing to be bothered about
Ichthyicsays
from Carlie’s link:
The national rape-related pregnancy rate is 5.0% per rape among victims of reproductive age (aged 12 to 45); among adult women an estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year. Among 34 cases of rape-related pregnancy, the majority occurred among adolescents and resulted from assault by a known, often related perpetrator. Only 11.7% of these victims received immediate medical attention after the assault, and 47.1% received no medical attention related to the rape. A total 32.4% of these victims did not discover they were pregnant until they had already entered the second trimester; 32.2% opted to keep the infant whereas 50% underwent abortion and 5.9% placed the infant for adoption; an additional 11.8% had spontaneous abortion.
those… are some very depressing numbers.
makes me want to wrap them in a lead pipe and beat people like Santorum over the head with it.
Ichthyicsays
… so, there are estimated to be around 650,000 rapes per year in the US, reverse engineering from pregnancy rates?
yikes.
of course that’s only based on that sample, and of reported rapes…
is it fair to say double that number actually occur, or more?
chuckonpiggottsays
@alexshuffell:
No, it is not wrong that you find Judy Greer very attractive.
Not at all.
Gregory Greenwoodsays
“The odds that a woman who is raped will get pregnant are “one in millions and millions and millions,” said state Rep. Stephen Freind, R-Delaware County, the Legislature’s leading abortion foe.”
The reason, Freind said, is that the traumatic experience of rape causes a woman to “secrete a certain secretion” that tends to kill sperm.
Words fail me. The denial of reality is bad enough even without the extra strength misogyny that manages to minimise the horror of rape (because there can be no kids, so it doesn’t really count, dontcha know) while simultaneously insinuating that those women who do fall poregnant after a rape must have “wanted it really” – playing into the meme that massively over emphasises the idea of the woman who gets cold feet after the fact or is seeking revenge through a false rape allegation in order to discredit all rape survivors.
This Freind cretin is a waste of good oxygen – how in the fictional hell trope does a creature like that even get elected?
diannesays
There are an estimated thirty-two thousand pregnancies following rape in the US per year. Does that mean that he thinks that there are at least 32 million rapes per year,
I think there’s an order of magnitude error in your statement: If pregnancy from rape is 1 in a million (much less “millions and millions”) and there are 32,000 pregnancies following rape, there must be several billions or tens of billions of rapes per year in the US.
I suspect that Freind would justify his statement by saying that almost all the rapes that produce pregnancies weren’t “really” rape, just sex regretted the day after or something.
diannesays
how in the fictional hell trope does a creature like that even get elected?
The suburbs of Philadelphia are not pretty places.
I got sick of Republicans in my vagina a LOOOONG time ago. They were, without exception, lousy lovers.
It would have been fun to have a patronizing helmet-haired d00d in the video explaining how happy and relieved he is to have a bunch of Republicans in his wife’s vagina — with bonus points for flashing pictures of Catholic Bishops in pointy hats while he said it.
@kantalope 16: you mean you weren’t aware of the sex strike? Either you don’t have sex often enough to notice a strike, or, well, it just didn’t get any traction. ;)
The suburbs of Philadelphia are not pretty places.
Ain’t that the truth. This is the state that sent Rick Santorum to the United States Senate. I ran screaming to NYC almost 20 years ago, and never looked back.
christophburschkasays
“secrete a certain secretion”
I’ve never ever heard of that. I guess it must be a secretly secreted secretion.
When it comes to sticking their noses where they are not wanted, what’s the difference between a dog and a republican?
Dogs don’t run for office.
thewhollynonesays
We need a test for prospective appointees and candidates for government office, a No Representative Left Behind test, to assure that such persons have at least the IQ of a twelve year old and the basic scientific knowledge of a high school graduate. I will be happy to organize test preparation services for a fee. (That should create tons of jobs.)
kevinalexandersays
But the Republicans are for small government so how could a small government be such an inconvenience in your vagina?
It’s not like you’re using it for anything else.
shouldbeworkingsays
Some rethuglican would compain that the knowledge exam is unconstitutional on the grounds that is is a religious test for office and everyone knows that science is a religion.
Way to be a transphobic shitbasket, Martin Wagner.
Akira MacKenziesays
@Happiestsadist:
Now, now, Martin Wagner may have quipped that Ms. Coulter (Where’s her evil golden monkey daemon?) had no vagina, but he didn’t say she had a penis. She always looked like an animated Barbie doll to me and we all know how anatomically accurate they are.
Happiestsadistsays
Or there’s a long, long history of transphobic “jokes” lobbed at that vile woman, and I’m guessing the more common one is more likely.
Circesays
This article at McSweeney’s Internet Tendency humor blog has a very similar drift..
Loftysays
Dogs don’t run for office.
Betcha they run for orifices though…
chigau (副)says
My first thought re: Coulter was “Barbie Doll”.
Akira MacKenziesays
@Happiestsadist
Or there’s a long, long history of transphobic “jokes” lobbed at that vile woman…
I’ll take your work for it. Speaking for myself, I have my doubts whether or not Coulter counts as “human,” much less a “woman.” Something about that gaunt visage and spindly figure just screams LICHE at me.
Happiestsadistsays
You know, Akira, there’s plenty of shit you can say about her (the being pro-genocide, the misogyny, the homophobia, etc.) without just hassling her appearance. Because that’s just kinda sexist bullshit. She’s a truly monstrous personality.
dexitrobopersays
Wow, now I wish I had a vagina!
As an Evil™ biologist you must be able to invaginate something?
chigau (副)says
OK
No one wants to hear this but it’s too good not to share…
I’m Pharyngulating and drinking
I just had a half-doze-dream where Ann Coulter and the Shroud of Turin where superimposed. It worked.
(I am way too suggestible.)
You’re missing something very obvious, PZ. In the view of the GOP patriarchy, all married men have a vagina. Their wives are, after all, their possessions, so they have ownership of all those female parts. Like God intended and everything.
llewellysays
chigau (副)
6 May 2012 at 11:50 pm :
I just had a half-doze-dream where Ann Coulter and the Shroud of Turin where superimposed.
Most bizarre Escher Girls entry ever.
llewellysays
Coulter: I don’t care for her awful ideologies, or her shameless robbing of the hard right plebes, but you can count on her to smoke out the transphobics in any group.
great1american1satansays
Pharyngulites, I have uncovered a source of ignorance most profound and annoying! Somebody has to give this guy a verbal smackdown. Or a few thousand somebodies. There’s a few sensible comments here already: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-selfish-gene-goes-to-war/Content?oid=13524405 from some guy called “HollowMan,” but my rage hasn’t been blunted yet.
I don’t even like Dawkins, and I do like commie-ism, so when a fellow commie reiterates that most pathetic misunderstanding of the title of Dawkins’ book, I wanna drop mental bombs.
Plus the idiocy of this closing sentiment: ” Much needed today is a theory of sociality that does not predictably draw all of its answers from the old box of ‘nature, red in tooth and claw.'”
Hey Chuck, reality isn’t going to bend to your desires. Wasps are gonna lay eggs in living tarantulas, who will be devoured from the inside. Male polar bears will eat errant polar bear cubs. You can believe in and promote goodness without using happy falsehoods to do so, ASSHAT.
–
Josh, Official SpokesGaysays
Oh, Martin?
As a huge, big ‘ol fan of TAE and you in particular (your writing style gives me orthographic tingles)—go fuck yourself. Shut your goddamned piehole if you can’t figure out how to insult Ann Coulter without throwing transgendered folks under the bus. They’re not just “those ha-ha butt-of-jokes,” they’re real people. Folks who read FtB, and likely people you love.
You asshole.
Josh, Official SpokesGaysays
Now, now, Martin Wagner may have quipped that Ms. Coulter (Where’s her evil golden monkey daemon?) had no vagina, but he didn’t say she had a penis
And you can shut your fucking mouth, too, Akira. Not. Funny. Not acceptable.
Jesus Christ. . . this transphobic shit is still going on here on Pharyngula?
Azuma Hazukisays
See, this was their endgame all along: to shrink government to the point where it could fit in our vaginas!
Sorry, Republicans, but if i wanted something in there i’d just reach into the sock drawer.
Ichthyic @22: And that’s just the number of confirmed rape-caused pregnancies, I imagine. There must be a significant proportion of raped women in relationships who assume/hope the pregnancy was caused by their partner.
As to the numbers, when you consider that the lifetime chance for women to be raped is about one in three, I think that looks to be about the right magnitude.
Agent Silversmith, Post Palladium Isotopesays
For their part, the Republicans have never figured out that the vagina is not bible shaped.
If Kate Beckinsale wants Republicans in her vagina, then I’m definitely a Republican.
carliesays
I think there’s an order of magnitude error in your statement: If pregnancy from rape is 1 in a million (much less “millions and millions”) and there are 32,000 pregnancies following rape, there must be several billions or tens of billions of rapes per year in the US.
Oh yes, I was way off. Three orders of magnitude, in fact. So it’s kind of like reverse homeopathy; the number of rapes is greater than even the total number of possible encounters in the US, according to his numbers.
birgerjohanssonsays
Married Republicans have a vagina…like those deep-sea angler fish, but in reverse? U-uuulp.
— — — — — — —
I don’t care what anatomy Ann Coulter has.
I always assumed she was one of those creepy Weyland Industry androids (that gave Ripley so much trouble in “Alien”).
— — — — — — — —
BTW can a vagina work like a digestive tract in the manner of some plant insect traps? That way those Rebublicans can at least be put to practical use.
If they complain, the answer is “the victim is to blame”
Akira MacKenziesays
@Josh.
It was not my intention to be transphobic, merely anti-conservative. However, If that is how I came off, I sincerely apologize.
phoenicianromanssays
I think there’s an order of magnitude error in your statement: If pregnancy from rape is 1 in a million (much less “millions and millions”) and there are 32,000 pregnancies following rape, there must be several billions or tens of billions of rapes per year in the US.
Let’s see – that’s around 240 rapes per woman annually at the “1 in a million” rate – and proportionately more for “millions and millions”.
Do you think he may have been thinking about, you know, ducks instead of human beings?
so weird that people just repeat what they hear.
I’m convinced we get virus of the mind by just listening to others without checking out what they say and then repeating it. I think we call the virus rumors, hehe.
diannesays
Do you think he may have been thinking about, you know, ducks instead of human beings?
I think “think” is far too strong a word to apply to Freind.
BoskerBonzer, Martin Wagner, and Akira MacKenzie: What the fuck is wrong with you all? Not just the transphobia, but the idea that it’s okay to mock the appearances of people you disagree with, especially women.
Especially you, Akira, who makes a hobby of whining on this blog how nobody likes you because you’re “fat and ugly,” in between creepy and offensive remarks. No, asshole, nobody likes you because you’re a douchebag.
BTW, “It was not my intention” and “If that is how I came off” are weaselly qualifiers, so shove your fauxpology up your ass.
NelC:
There must be a significant proportion of raped women in relationships who assume/hope the pregnancy was caused by their partner.
Uh, you do realize that rape happens in relationships, right? And that abusive men frequently try to impregnate their partners against the latter’s will, via rape and/or contraceptive sabotage, to keep them from leaving?
Knowing a bit about Martin, I’d be surprised if he really was transphobic. More likely, it was an off-hand remark.
However, that doesn’t change the problematic nature of it. Remarks like that, even if not intended as hurtful and transphobic, create an unpleasant atmosphere and provide cover for transphobes. The problems don’t disappear just because they weren’t intended.
It’s still trans people who end up having to deal with this crap and it should come as no surprise that they already have plenty of crap on their plate. We ought to be the kind of community where trans people can come and relax without having to listen to such jabs, intended or not. Long way to go, I know, but we won’t move forward by not trying.
Martin, I hope you will be more careful in the future. It’s not just about intention, but also very much about how you translate that intention into action. Unintended hurt still hurts.
Akira MacKenziesays
@Ms Daisy Cutter:
I did apologize for my comments. What more do want?
Furthermore, your personal attacks on me, even after I promised to no longer bring up my personal problems on Pharyngula, are getting really, really boring.
reasonbeing says
That is a funny video. It does a great job highlighting how moronic the Republican positions are. It also does a great job of furthering the idea that the “war on women” is not some myth created by the left. Kudos to Beckinsdale for doing that.
dougittner says
If a Republican is going to get in a woman’s vagina shouldn’t he marry her first? The entire GOP is going to hell for adultery.
No One says
Question:
Did State Rep. Richard Freind really say the rape secretion thing?
dianne says
I don’t think you do, really. Keeping a Republican in your vagina isn’t really very comfortable. Just be glad they haven’t decided to crawl up your prostate yet.
consciousness razor says
There has to be some safe way to contain them. What about those little boxes the ghostbusters use?
David Marjanović says
The sound the government makes when it goes up the… X-D
Has State Rep. Freind resigned amid all the media laughing at him yet? Hm? Hmmmmmm?
alexshuffell says
I’m jut an innocent English boy but that video was confusing. So many questions. Why? What’s happening? Are they taking the piss out of someone? Was this for or against Republicans? Is it wrong I find Judy Greer very attractive? What’s a vagina and do I have one? There’s the two on the outside and the two on the inside, should I have more? I’m heading over to Brian Switek and Laelaps, vaginas have confused me too much, I need some dinosaurs.
'Tis Himself says
No One #3
It’s Stephen Freind and the Philadelphia Inquirer says he said it:
It took less than three minutes with google to find the answer.
Brownian says
Hoist with our own EPA.
Charlie Foxtrot says
Heh – that’s great! How awesome would it be if that got some primetime ad-space :)
Really, the mocking of the republicans policies needs to be merciless.
Terska says
My son tells me the local Barnes and Noble keeps Darwin on the religion and mythology shelves.
Is this typical elsewhere?
No One says
‘Tis Himself says:
6 May 2012 at 4:52 pm
I have no idea why I typed “Richard” into the google search field, except that I’m getting older and it’s catching up with me.
autumn says
I must be doing it wrong. I haven’t got a vagina, but every day something indistinguishable from a republican comes out of my ass.
razzlefrog says
“Why, I’ll be damned – I don’t have nearly enough Republicans in my vagina!” <—– I was thinking that just the other day.
robro says
consciousness razor — “There has to be some safe way to contain them.” Condoms? I mean, they [Republicans] are a bunch of dicks.
kantalope says
I would kind of think that the campaign should go the other way:
Republicans: no Vaginas for you….until you stop acting like a bunch of dicks.
Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven says
Right, because reinforcing the sense that sex is something women give to men as a reward is going to do sooooo much for gender equality.
carlie says
There are an estimated thirty-two thousand pregnancies following rape in the US per year. Does that mean that he thinks that there are at least 32 million rapes per year, and wouldn’t that mean that he thinks that rape is a pretty big deal? Can’t wait to see him shoring up rape victim support services and advocating for more anti-rape training for men and harsher punishments and actual investigations of rape and such.
andyo says
You’re taking it the wrong way. Those weren’t rapes, because the women must secretly have enjoyed it. They just wanted money and/or take angry revenge against a guy who wouldn’t go out with them a second time.
Aliasalpha says
Surely he’d draw the conclusion that that many rapes would make it an everyday part of life and therefore nothing to be bothered about
Ichthyic says
from Carlie’s link:
those… are some very depressing numbers.
makes me want to wrap them in a lead pipe and beat people like Santorum over the head with it.
Ichthyic says
… so, there are estimated to be around 650,000 rapes per year in the US, reverse engineering from pregnancy rates?
yikes.
of course that’s only based on that sample, and of reported rapes…
is it fair to say double that number actually occur, or more?
chuckonpiggott says
@alexshuffell:
No, it is not wrong that you find Judy Greer very attractive.
Not at all.
Gregory Greenwood says
Words fail me. The denial of reality is bad enough even without the extra strength misogyny that manages to minimise the horror of rape (because there can be no kids, so it doesn’t really count, dontcha know) while simultaneously insinuating that those women who do fall poregnant after a rape must have “wanted it really” – playing into the meme that massively over emphasises the idea of the woman who gets cold feet after the fact or is seeking revenge through a false rape allegation in order to discredit all rape survivors.
This Freind cretin is a waste of good oxygen – how in the fictional hell trope does a creature like that even get elected?
dianne says
There are an estimated thirty-two thousand pregnancies following rape in the US per year. Does that mean that he thinks that there are at least 32 million rapes per year,
I think there’s an order of magnitude error in your statement: If pregnancy from rape is 1 in a million (much less “millions and millions”) and there are 32,000 pregnancies following rape, there must be several billions or tens of billions of rapes per year in the US.
I suspect that Freind would justify his statement by saying that almost all the rapes that produce pregnancies weren’t “really” rape, just sex regretted the day after or something.
dianne says
how in the fictional hell trope does a creature like that even get elected?
The suburbs of Philadelphia are not pretty places.
irisvanderpluym says
I got sick of Republicans in my vagina a LOOOONG time ago. They were, without exception, lousy lovers.
It would have been fun to have a patronizing helmet-haired d00d in the video explaining how happy and relieved he is to have a bunch of Republicans in his wife’s vagina — with bonus points for flashing pictures of Catholic Bishops in pointy hats while he said it.
@kantalope 16: you mean you weren’t aware of the sex strike? Either you don’t have sex often enough to notice a strike, or, well, it just didn’t get any traction. ;)
irisvanderpluym says
@dianne
Ain’t that the truth. This is the state that sent Rick Santorum to the United States Senate. I ran screaming to NYC almost 20 years ago, and never looked back.
christophburschka says
I’ve never ever heard of that. I guess it must be a secretly secreted secretion.
irisvanderpluym says
Shhhhh! It’s a secret…hel-LO?
ludicrous says
When it comes to sticking their noses where they are not wanted, what’s the difference between a dog and a republican?
Dogs don’t run for office.
thewhollynone says
We need a test for prospective appointees and candidates for government office, a No Representative Left Behind test, to assure that such persons have at least the IQ of a twelve year old and the basic scientific knowledge of a high school graduate. I will be happy to organize test preparation services for a fee. (That should create tons of jobs.)
kevinalexander says
But the Republicans are for small government so how could a small government be such an inconvenience in your vagina?
It’s not like you’re using it for anything else.
shouldbeworking says
Some rethuglican would compain that the knowledge exam is unconstitutional on the grounds that is is a religious test for office and everyone knows that science is a religion.
boskerbonzer says
I bet Ann Coulter doesn’t use hers much; maybe she’ll let you borrow it.
Martin Wagner says
Ann Coulter has a vagina?
Happiestsadist says
Way to be a transphobic shitbasket, Martin Wagner.
Akira MacKenzie says
@Happiestsadist:
Now, now, Martin Wagner may have quipped that Ms. Coulter (Where’s her evil golden monkey daemon?) had no vagina, but he didn’t say she had a penis. She always looked like an animated Barbie doll to me and we all know how anatomically accurate they are.
Happiestsadist says
Or there’s a long, long history of transphobic “jokes” lobbed at that vile woman, and I’m guessing the more common one is more likely.
Circe says
This article at McSweeney’s Internet Tendency humor blog has a very similar drift..
Lofty says
Betcha they run for orifices though…
chigau (副) says
My first thought re: Coulter was “Barbie Doll”.
Akira MacKenzie says
@Happiestsadist
I’ll take your work for it. Speaking for myself, I have my doubts whether or not Coulter counts as “human,” much less a “woman.” Something about that gaunt visage and spindly figure just screams LICHE at me.
Happiestsadist says
You know, Akira, there’s plenty of shit you can say about her (the being pro-genocide, the misogyny, the homophobia, etc.) without just hassling her appearance. Because that’s just kinda sexist bullshit. She’s a truly monstrous personality.
dexitroboper says
As an Evil™ biologist you must be able to invaginate something?
chigau (副) says
OK
No one wants to hear this but it’s too good not to share…
I’m Pharyngulating and drinking
I just had a half-doze-dream where Ann Coulter and the Shroud of Turin where superimposed. It worked.
(I am way too suggestible.)
Zeno says
You’re missing something very obvious, PZ. In the view of the GOP patriarchy, all married men have a vagina. Their wives are, after all, their possessions, so they have ownership of all those female parts. Like God intended and everything.
llewelly says
chigau (副)
6 May 2012 at 11:50 pm :
Most bizarre Escher Girls entry ever.
llewelly says
Coulter: I don’t care for her awful ideologies, or her shameless robbing of the hard right plebes, but you can count on her to smoke out the transphobics in any group.
great1american1satan says
Pharyngulites, I have uncovered a source of ignorance most profound and annoying! Somebody has to give this guy a verbal smackdown. Or a few thousand somebodies. There’s a few sensible comments here already: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-selfish-gene-goes-to-war/Content?oid=13524405 from some guy called “HollowMan,” but my rage hasn’t been blunted yet.
I don’t even like Dawkins, and I do like commie-ism, so when a fellow commie reiterates that most pathetic misunderstanding of the title of Dawkins’ book, I wanna drop mental bombs.
Plus the idiocy of this closing sentiment: ” Much needed today is a theory of sociality that does not predictably draw all of its answers from the old box of ‘nature, red in tooth and claw.'”
Hey Chuck, reality isn’t going to bend to your desires. Wasps are gonna lay eggs in living tarantulas, who will be devoured from the inside. Male polar bears will eat errant polar bear cubs. You can believe in and promote goodness without using happy falsehoods to do so, ASSHAT.
–
Josh, Official SpokesGay says
Oh, Martin?
As a huge, big ‘ol fan of TAE and you in particular (your writing style gives me orthographic tingles)—go fuck yourself. Shut your goddamned piehole if you can’t figure out how to insult Ann Coulter without throwing transgendered folks under the bus. They’re not just “those ha-ha butt-of-jokes,” they’re real people. Folks who read FtB, and likely people you love.
You asshole.
Josh, Official SpokesGay says
And you can shut your fucking mouth, too, Akira. Not. Funny. Not acceptable.
Jesus Christ. . . this transphobic shit is still going on here on Pharyngula?
Azuma Hazuki says
See, this was their endgame all along: to shrink government to the point where it could fit in our vaginas!
Sorry, Republicans, but if i wanted something in there i’d just reach into the sock drawer.
NelC says
Ichthyic @22: And that’s just the number of confirmed rape-caused pregnancies, I imagine. There must be a significant proportion of raped women in relationships who assume/hope the pregnancy was caused by their partner.
As to the numbers, when you consider that the lifetime chance for women to be raped is about one in three, I think that looks to be about the right magnitude.
Agent Silversmith, Post Palladium Isotope says
For their part, the Republicans have never figured out that the vagina is not bible shaped.
jonnyscaramanga says
If Kate Beckinsale wants Republicans in her vagina, then I’m definitely a Republican.
carlie says
Oh yes, I was way off. Three orders of magnitude, in fact. So it’s kind of like reverse homeopathy; the number of rapes is greater than even the total number of possible encounters in the US, according to his numbers.
birgerjohansson says
Married Republicans have a vagina…like those deep-sea angler fish, but in reverse? U-uuulp.
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I don’t care what anatomy Ann Coulter has.
I always assumed she was one of those creepy Weyland Industry androids (that gave Ripley so much trouble in “Alien”).
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BTW can a vagina work like a digestive tract in the manner of some plant insect traps? That way those Rebublicans can at least be put to practical use.
If they complain, the answer is “the victim is to blame”
Akira MacKenzie says
@Josh.
It was not my intention to be transphobic, merely anti-conservative. However, If that is how I came off, I sincerely apologize.
phoenicianromans says
I think there’s an order of magnitude error in your statement: If pregnancy from rape is 1 in a million (much less “millions and millions”) and there are 32,000 pregnancies following rape, there must be several billions or tens of billions of rapes per year in the US.
Let’s see – that’s around 240 rapes per woman annually at the “1 in a million” rate – and proportionately more for “millions and millions”.
Do you think he may have been thinking about, you know, ducks instead of human beings?
birgerjohansson says
Anglerfish, see “reproduction” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angler_fish
Could Republicans be “incorporated” in the same way?
donmitchell says
yes, no one the news site Philadelphia Inquirer, 1988:
http://articles.philly.com/1988-03-23/news/26277205_1_freind-woman-secretes-luigi-mastroianni
so weird that people just repeat what they hear.
I’m convinced we get virus of the mind by just listening to others without checking out what they say and then repeating it. I think we call the virus rumors, hehe.
dianne says
Do you think he may have been thinking about, you know, ducks instead of human beings?
I think “think” is far too strong a word to apply to Freind.
Markita Lynda—damn climate change! says
Chances are probably 5% to 8%. Chances of sexually transmitted disease, 5% – 10%.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Gynofascist in a Spiffy Hugo Boss Uniform says
BoskerBonzer, Martin Wagner, and Akira MacKenzie: What the fuck is wrong with you all? Not just the transphobia, but the idea that it’s okay to mock the appearances of people you disagree with, especially women.
Especially you, Akira, who makes a hobby of whining on this blog how nobody likes you because you’re “fat and ugly,” in between creepy and offensive remarks. No, asshole, nobody likes you because you’re a douchebag.
BTW, “It was not my intention” and “If that is how I came off” are weaselly qualifiers, so shove your fauxpology up your ass.
NelC:
Uh, you do realize that rape happens in relationships, right? And that abusive men frequently try to impregnate their partners against the latter’s will, via rape and/or contraceptive sabotage, to keep them from leaving?
Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart, liar and scoundrel says
Here, I’ll donate mine. Hell, you’re welcome to have the whole shebang-a-bang. It’s getting crowded up in there.
Also: Fuck Republicans.
LykeX says
Knowing a bit about Martin, I’d be surprised if he really was transphobic. More likely, it was an off-hand remark.
However, that doesn’t change the problematic nature of it. Remarks like that, even if not intended as hurtful and transphobic, create an unpleasant atmosphere and provide cover for transphobes. The problems don’t disappear just because they weren’t intended.
It’s still trans people who end up having to deal with this crap and it should come as no surprise that they already have plenty of crap on their plate. We ought to be the kind of community where trans people can come and relax without having to listen to such jabs, intended or not. Long way to go, I know, but we won’t move forward by not trying.
Martin, I hope you will be more careful in the future. It’s not just about intention, but also very much about how you translate that intention into action. Unintended hurt still hurts.
Akira MacKenzie says
@Ms Daisy Cutter:
I did apologize for my comments. What more do want?
Furthermore, your personal attacks on me, even after I promised to no longer bring up my personal problems on Pharyngula, are getting really, really boring.
Cut it the fuck out.
Now.