Trump Outright Lied About the Existence of Voter Fraud and “Plans” to “Combat” It… But You’re Mad That a Nazi Got Punched in the Face?

In case you forgot, the Failed-Steak-Salesman-in-Chief is an out-and-out bald-faced liar. And at least one of his lies will have devastating effects for citizens of the United States:

After His Claim of Voter Fraud, Trump Vows ‘Major Investigation’

President Trump intends to move forward with a major investigation of voter fraud that he says cost him the popular vote, White House officials said Wednesday, despite bipartisan condemnation of his allegations and the conclusion of Mr. Trump’s own lawyers that the election was “not tainted.”

In his first days in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump has renewed his complaint that millions of people voted illegally, depriving him of a popular-vote majority. In two Twitter posts early Wednesday morning, the president vowed to open an inquiry to reveal people who are registered to vote in multiple states or who remain on voting rolls long after they have died.

Thing is, though, that Voter Fraud is, essentially, a myth

Examination after examination of voter fraud claims reveal that voter fraud is very rare, voter impersonation is nearly non-existent, and much of the problems associated with alleged fraud in elections relates to unintentional mistakes by voters or election administrators. Our seminal report “The Truth About Voter Fraud” conclusively demonstrated most allegations of fraud turn out to be baseless — and that of the few allegations remaining, most reveal election irregularities and other forms of election misconduct. And numerous other studies have reached the same conclusion.

And, obviously, the Orange Man Baby’s “investigation” could mean the absolute worst things for voters across the country.

Huffington Post shares how his investigation could easily produce fake evidence. In short, they can use bad survey data, numerology, and bad modeling.

New Republic explains how it’s really about gaslighting:

Outdated voting rolls, people who are registered in two states—none of these things mean that voter fraud has occurred. But Republicans—especially very cynical ones like Kansas’s Kris Kobach—have seized on them because they suggest that voter fraud could occur. They then use those claims to ram through voter ID laws that dramatically restrict access to voting by poorer and nonwhite voters, who tend to vote for Democrats.

That’s ultimately what Trump’s investigation will be about: surfacing just enough information to destabilize the truth, which is that practically nobody voted for Clinton illegally. At the same time, it will give Republicans at the state level and in Congress the ammunition to try to make sure Trump doesn’t lose the popular vote again in 2020.

The New York Times talks about the consequences:

Second, there’s a more insidious longer-term purpose here as well. Propaganda about illegal voting has been used — throughout history and in modern times — to justify unnecessary restrictions on voting. Unpopular incumbents like Mr. Trump can help their odds of re-election with measures that make it harder for people to vote.

You wanna know something funny, though? His voter fraud expert, Gregg Phillips, was actually registered to vote in 3 states.

Of course, you know the Tan Bigot… he couldn’t hold the lie forever:

Just days into his term, President Donald Trump opened a new chapter in this long history, using the White House pulpit to make claims of massive voter fraud, and calling for changes in voting law. But in relaying an anecdote to congressional leaders intended to support his wholly unsubstantiated claims of millions of fraudulent votes from undocumented immigrants, Trump directly referred to the perceived ethnicity and nationality of suspect voters, instead of actual suspicions of fraudulent acts. In doing so, Trump broke the longstanding taboo of relying on racial insinuation to carry the implied threat of suppression.

The story, as reported in the New York Times, is bizarre. According to multiple sources, at a reception for House and Senate leaders Trump relayed a story meant to back his wild claims of fraud. That story involved German golfer Bernhard Langer. Three sources claim that Langer—a German citizen ineligible to vote in the United States—saw voter fraud by people he presumably believed to be undocumented immigrants, while trying to vote unsuccessfully himself. Another source contradicts this account, saying the story was relayed to Langer by a friend who was eligible to vote. But both accounts agree that Trump’s take from Langer was that a group of voters presumably of Latin American origin “did not look as if they should be allowed to vote,” as paraphrased by the newspaper. This was a bullhorn where we’d usually expect a more savvy dog-whistle.

In the end, Trump is poised to take voting back to Jim Crowe and earlier, when only white conservatives could vote.

But… you know… the worst thing that’s happened recently is a Nazi getting punched in the face…


  1. chigau (ever-elliptical) says

    If a VastConspiracy™ managed to get 3 million ballots into the boxes,
    the TrumpTeam should be terrified.
    That is some serious power.

  2. Holms says

    Nathan, a person can be disapproving of Bad Thing A and also of Bad Thing B, even if A is much more serious than B. Saying or implying that we should therefore give B a free pass is fallacious. Worse though is the fact that you are mischaracterising the critics of Bad Thing B, or at least the ones I’ve seen:

    But… you know… the worst thing that’s happened recently is a Nazi getting punched in the face…

    Can you point to a single person on the left that has characterised that even as ‘the worst thing’? Or from the previous post:

    But it’s the Nazi getting punched in the face that’s the big problem, here…

    Again, can you point to a single lefty that considers that punch a bigger problem than Trump’s bullshit? And hey, the one before that:

    But you’re mad because a Nazi got punched in the face?

    None of the commenters that I’ve seen have been what I would characterise as mad at that punch. Obviously, this also goes for the title of the post before that: “You’re Mad Because a Nazi Got Punched in the Face?”

  3. Holms says

    That doesn’t address either of my points: fallacy + mischaraterisation of commentary here. (Though perhaps it is not a mischaracterisation of commentary further afield that I have not seen?)

    For my part, I simply don’t feel much either way about the incident. I completely understand the motivation to punch Nazis, and I’m glad the attacker appears to have gotten away without being apprehended, but I’m also completely not on board with the left encouraging such.

  4. says

    I’m late to addressing you, Holms, but I wanted to step back and cool off… I think I’m cooled off enough to respond calmly…

    Sort of…

    See, here’s the thing…

    First, I’m not a pacifist… at least, not anymore. I was, for a very long time. I was one of those who genuinely believed that the rise in fascism while President Obama was in office was just the last gasps of a dying group, and that we were moving into a brighter, more progressive future.

    And then Agent Orange was elected.

    And as a result, I do honestly feel like pacifism has failed… miserably.

    I completely understand why you’re not on board with encouraging, for example, punching Nazis, and despite my explosion in “You’re Mad Because a Nazi Got Punched in the Face?”, I honestly wouldn’t outright advocate it.

    However… I genuinely cannot do anything other than laugh when it happens. I honestly can’t help but celebrate it. I may be in an extremely dark place mentally, but the state of the US and the world is just as dark right now.

    One of my favorite podcasts is The Black Guy Who Tips (I highly recommend it; Rod and Keren are amazing). They reported on a Grand Wizard of the KKK being found murdered. Immediately after Rod read the headline, he played the song “Celebration”.

    I danced to it.

    I talk about this more in the post I linked to above, but…

    That’s where I am right now.

    I do understand what you’re saying, but I’m not capable of agreeing. I can’t help but feel that Nazis deserve to be punched in the face.


    Because they’re Nazis. I don’t feel like any other reason is needed.

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