The bishops are still demanding more and more and yet more theocracy. They think the US should simply be run by the Vatican, period; nothing less will do. They hate anything that’s not total enslavement by the imaginary god and its loathsome minions.
Despite the recent Hobby Lobby court victory, Bishop James D. Conley of Lincoln, Neb. stressed the need for Catholics to continue to evangelize and fight against the prevailing culture of secularism.
“The victory is not unqualified and the fight for our religious liberty is not complete. Churches, hospitals, and universities are still threatened by the HHS contraceptive mandate,” Bishop Conley said in his July 11 archdiocesan column.
The lying dog. They have their “religious liberty”; their religious liberty does not imply a right to impose their anti-liberty anti-women authoritarian fascist dogma on the whole population. That’s nothing to do with liberty, it’s tyranny and oppression.
In his column, Bishop Conley said the repercussions of the Hobby Lobby decision have indeed established that “believers have a place in the public square – that all of us should be free to conduct our business without compromising our basic moral beliefs.”
However, the Supreme Court decision also relayed the overwhelming assertions of secularists, “whose loyalties lie more closely with unfettered sexual libertinism than with respect for fundamental rights of conscience, of religion, or of personal dignity,” the bishop said.
Disgusting pig. He’s a high-up in a church with a long and festering history of allowing its priests to rape children, and of shielding them from the law, and he has the fucking gall to accuse all of us of “unfettered sexual libertinism” – because contraception! It’s raping children that’s wrong, you piece of shit, not having adult sex with contraception.
Although the fight for religious freedom in litigation is important, Bishop Conley suggested that the root issue is secularism.
“Religious liberty will be threatened in our nation as long as secularism is the prevailing cultural leitmotif.”
“The Hobby Lobby decision has exposed the secular tendency towards atheocracy – the systematic hostility and marginalization of religious believers who engage in American public life, a kind of practical atheism established as the norm.”
He’s such a liar. Religion gets massive deference in American public life. Massive. Bishop James D. Conley of Lincoln, Nebraska is a damn iying liar.
I’ll play that game with you, bob.
Hey bishop, when your mob stops protecting and supporting child rapists then you might have some pretense towards telling the rest of us about morality. Until then, you’re a bunch of hypocrites who should just STFU about other peoples’ sex lives.
I find myself pining for the days when liberal bishops (e.g. Raymond Hunthausen) were a thing. And I’m not even Catholic. “Liberation Theology” and all that. Now there’s a high school a couple of miles from my house named after Thomas Murphy, who was assigned to the diocese specifically to get Hunthausen under control.
I had a college friend who was inspired by Hunthausen to convert to Catholicism and become a priest. He’s now left the priesthood and come out.
And what about all the lives and livelihoods threatened by *your* contraceptive mandate and takeover of the US hospital system? Ugh, I hate the Catholic church so much.
“The Hobby Lobby decision has exposed the secular tendency towards atheocracy”
Really? I thought it was the Constitution that exposed the secular tendency. Non-establishment clause and all that. We’re supposed to be an “atheocracy,” no?
I wonder what gives him the impression he’s living in the Vatican?
Sounds to me like Conley would be happier living south of the Rio Grande and about 300 years back in time.
The Catholic countries that make up Latin America were founded by expeditions from the Iberian Peninsula. Until the 20th C, they like their parent countries were predominantly feudal in character, or variants of feudalism that took the form of military dictatorships.
The US and Canada were founded by Protestants; Puritans and other dissenters of various persuasions. For them, freedom of religion, thought and speech were essential; not only becoming enshrined in the US Constitution, but part of everyday life in North America and the basis for its intellectual and economic progress.
The Catholic Church was an integral part of European feudalism, and decline of the one was intimately associated with that of the other. When Conley says “Religious liberty will be threatened in our nation as long as secularism is the prevailing cultural leitmotif”, what I take him to mean is that he and his co-thinkers will never be happy until they have their dearly beloved (European) Catholic totalitarianism back.
America was founded on religious liberty, and is still a very religious country. Whatever this wretched priest means by ‘secularism’ can only be one among many of its various schools of thought.
The culture of secularism is the most important guarantor of religious liberty, not a threat. Secularism has no need to impose religious values from one group onto another. That’s why the Catholics hate it, because when they say “religious liberty”, what they mean is, “We get to impose our rules on others”, and secularism demands actual liberty.
From the linky:
WTF? What persecution? Who is doing the persecuting?
Religious shits attacking other religious shits is called “business as usual” in the religion game.
So the bishop deplores “atheocracy” – which makes him an admitted advocate of theocracy.
There are too many different interpretations of the word atheist for me to adopt that label, and even if I did I wouldn’t want to exclude all others from a share in governance, so I’m certainly not an atheistocrat. But I’m sure as hell against all forms of theocracy, so I’m happy to identify as an atheocrat. Thank you bishop for inventing a label I can live with.
I’d have no complaint if Brother Christian would just stay
In his own church, or his own house, to worship his own way;
But out into the marketplace he feels obliged to go
Despising everything in sight and telling people so.
(Chorus)
And he’s just another bully, when he pushes folks around;
He’s a bigger, badder bully–I don’t want him in my town!
I don’t care what his reasons are for stomping you and me;
But by his works I know him–and this is tyranny.
(2)
Now I’d not grumble much if Brother Christian just complained
And whined and nagged in public, though my patience would be strained;
But up into the City Hall he feels obliged to stray,
Demanding bans on everything that doesn’t go his way.
(3)
I’d not raise my hand if Brother Christian would just bitch
For laws to censor everything that makes a body itch;
But on the Congress floor he feels obliged to take a stand:
To make his tastes and morals the one law of the land.
(4)
I’m tired of Brother Christian’s tricks, and all his bigotry.
I’m tired of tight-ass morals that he tries to put on me;
I’m tired of politician fools who follow where he runs;
He wants to make a Christian world? Forget it–get the guns!
– Leslie Fish, “Brother Christian”
They should do us all a favor and let us go to Hell if that is our choice. Really. Their Jesus said “My Kingdom is not of this world,” didn’t he? Well, then, listen and pay attention and stop meddling.
My body, my business, my eternal soul, right? Also, what good is their “Free Will” if they don’t want me to exercise it?
They don’t even believe their own religion, why should I give it more than half a second’s thought?
It is telling that he can’t imagine what it might be like for other people, especially women, who are affected by access to contraception. He can’t even think of women using contraception for other reasons besides birth control (although birth control is important also for a woman’s health). His morality is devoid of actually having to think about individuals. These bishops are all stuck in their ivory towers looking down on the “little” people. I noticed he is quite worried about “unfettered sexual libertinism.” I suspect he thinks more about sex than the average person
This unfettered sexual libertine doesn’t dress like a secularist.
So….um…fetters make it all kosher? I mean, it’s not really my thing, but I can go there, if that’s what it takes. And yeah, #13 Kamaka, I can do that too, the whole upskirt thang. No children (unlike the clergy), no relatives, no animals, no men (sorry, it’s just a fetish I’m addicted to), no bodily effluvia, no excessive pain, but aside from those, I’m open to suggestion — and black robes with handcuffs sounds kinda interesting. Tell me more.