Hahahahahahahaha this is the funniest headline I’ve seen in awhile – it’s in the Independent –
Saudi Arabia criticises Norway over human rights record
You must admit.
Ok so what’s the problem? What rights are they neglecting? Prisoners’? Children’s? Foreigners’? Asylum seekers’? Those of the disabled?
No, none of those. It’s the rights of Mohammed and Islam that Norway has been neglecting. How are those human rights, you wonder? They’re…not.
Saudi Arabia has criticised Norway’s human rights record, accusing the country of failing to protect its Muslim citizens and not doing enough to counter criticism of the prophet Mohammed.
Hey, you know what? No country should do anything to “counter criticism” of Mohammed or any other religious figure.
The gulf state called for all criticism of religion and of prophet Mohammed to be made illegal in Norway.
Ok then I call for Islam to be made illegal in Saudi Arabia. Why not? If Saudi can, we all can.
Norwegian Foreign Minister Børge Brende was in Geneva to hear the concerns from 91 other countries. He told Norway’s NTB newswire prior to the hearing: “It is a paradox that countries which do not support fundamental human rights have influence on the council, but that is the United Nations,” reported The Local.
Human Rights Watch last report noted that in 2012 Saudi Arabia “stepped up arrests and trials of peaceful dissidents, and responded with force to demonstrations by citizens.”
It continued “Authorities continue to suppress or fail to protect the rights of 9 million Saudi women and girls and 9 million foreign workers. As in past years, thousands of people have received unfair trials or been subject to arbitrary detention. The year has seen trials against half-a-dozen human rights defenders and several others for their peaceful expression or assembly demanding political and human rights reforms.”
Still, it’s nice of them to try to help the rest of the world do better.
Andrew B. says
Doesn’t KSA forbid the practicing of any other religion except Islam (and discriminate harshly against Shia Muslims) within its borders? Jesus, what a bunch of stupid fucking brutes.
So ban all criticism of religion- I suppose Saudi Arabia will ban criticism of Satanism, Wicca, Scientology, Judaism, Shia Islam, Voodoo, Christianity in all its forms, all shamanic systems, Asatru, Hellenic Reconstructionism, etc etc?
Small correction–it’s not “Saudi”. The “Saudi” is an adjective, denoting the country’s ownership by the Saudi crime family, who happen to own the country of Arabia. Said crime family has profited handsomely by the assumption that “Saudi” denotes nationality…it does not. It just denotes membership in the crime family. The proper shortening of “Saudi Arabia” is “Arabia”, no matter what the Saudi crime family wants the rest of the world to think. The Saudis will not (indeed, cannot) own Arabia forever.
Saudi Arabia? Is that the slave-owning, racist, primitive, tribal, viciously misogynistic, theocratic and oppressive Saudi Arabia or is there another one?
The most repugnant aspect of this squalid affair is that the Saudis are entirely free of hypocrisy, from their perspective, non Muslims are sub-human.
In a civilised world Saudi Arabia would be illegal.
“Saudi” may not be very elegant name, but it distinguishes Saudi Arabia from the other Arab nations. Would “Saudiland” be better?
Seems to me that Saudiland is a textbook example of the “resource curse”: resource wealth being associated with social backwardness.
I’ve found some articles on how oil and democracy don’t mix very well, but if I post a lot of links, my post will go into moderation.
One can use measures of democracy like the Economist magazine’s measures, and correlate them with GDP per capita and oil earnings per capita, and one finds that oil-rich nations are much less democratic than oil-poor nations with the same GDP. Why is that so? Oil-poor nations’ wealth is usually built on the labors of the nations’ citizens, and skilled workers eventually demand more democracy. Oil-rich nations’ wealth usually goes into the hands of some elite, and politics often gets a contest as to who will get the earnings. With all that wealth, the leaders try to pacify their citizens with welfare statism, police statism, official religiosity, or any combination of these.
Ophelia Benson says
I’m around now, so if you want to post a lot of links, I can get them out of mod promptly.
considering the things Mo said about other religions it would be impossible to do both.
Timus Rian says
For starters, Norway should start funding Islamic extremist groups around the world, and ban all other religions except Wahhabi Islam. I guess that would satisfy the Saudi government for now 😉
In the Middle East and the West, Oil and Democracy Don’t Mix — Research | Columbia News
Coal required a big workforce, while oil doesn’t. Coal workers could assert themselves with big strikes and the like, something that helped increase their political pull. Oil is less broad-based.
Egypt, Oil and Democracy | FiveThirtyEight
How do the ruling elites keep in control? An obvious way is with a police-state apparatus.
A third way is with religion, and that’s what Saudiland’s leaders are doing, trying to present themselves as super Muslim by supporting the Wahhabi sect’s leaders.