1. jenBPhillips says

    Huh?? “Get out” of where? Is he alluding to the “parasitic relationship” to which he cryptically referred a few days ago? And I wonder what he thinks “dogma” means.

    The trouble with being such a shitty writer is that a lot of the time, people just can’t tell what the fuck you’re talking about.

  2. ~G~ says

    No, that’s the good thing about being a shitty writer. If people quote you and point out how horrible, irrational or stupid you are, you can just back-peddle and say that’s not what you meant.

  3. says

    …replies always obviate blocking

    Funny you should mention that, Aratina has swept away the slyme with a nice script. I’ve got a little demo at my blog: Clean up the Slyme from your Timeline!

    Removes everyone on the block list from Twitter in Chrome and Firefox… In pretty much all situations (One bug I’ve found but I’m betting Aratina can fix it)

  4. says

    I’m wondering how Vacula went from self-declared “movement leader”, skipped right past “Very Important Leader Thinker”, and is now self-proclaimed “KING OF THE SECULAR MOVEMENT!!!”

    Just as importantly, do the Very Important Leader Thinkers know that they answer to Justin Vacula yet?

  5. Sili says


    Won’t he have to fight that Yale secular, interfaith chaplain guy thingie for that title?

  6. Mattir, Another One With Boltcutters says

    This has been the most depressing weekend I’ve had in years.

  7. screechymonkey says

    This has been the most depressing weekend I’ve had in years.

    I understand the sentiment, but aren’t you dwelling on the wrong things?

    I didn’t attend WiS, but from the accounts I’ve read, it was a great success apart from Lindsay’s turd in the punch bowl. 300+ attendees, great speakers, interesting talks from the summaries I’ve read.

    And before anyone says, “yes, but apart from that, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?” let me add this:

    Yes, it’s hard to overlook Lindsay’s douchebaggery, but let’s not give the man too much importance. Ophelia has often mocked here the concept of these Important Skeptical Leaders, and I agree with her. Lindsay has harmed CFI, and that’s a shame, but the damage to the cause of “women in secularism” is minimal. If CFI doesn’t want to — or is too tainted to effectively — promote a WiS 3 next year, then that’s CFI’s loss. Someone’s going to pick up that torch, and it’ll move on under a different banner.

  8. says

    Mattir, Another One With Boltcutters

    I understand that it can feel depressing, but I think some real good has come from it. I’m on the periphery of the movement and I’ve made some connections within the “real” movement over the last couple of days. There’s a lot to be angry about from Ron Lindsay and the formal structure of CFI. On the other hand, Lindsay is one person, and his supporters are a tiny minority, and if he can’t correct his stupidity there’s the whole “Women in Secularism” team that doesn’t need an idiot like Lindsay to approve their actions, if they decide to strike out on their own.

    CFI collected a lot of money this weekend to do… whatever. I know for sure that the same people can collect the same sort of money without having to pay for some jackhole like Lindsay to piss all over their hard work.

  9. Sili says

    Ah, Stedman!

    Thanks, Joe,

    These places are all much of a same to me. Sorry for the mirecollection. At least the point got through.

  10. Dave Ricks says

    Won’t he have to fight that Yale secular, interfaith chaplain guy thingie for that title?

    +1 for thinking Harvard and writing Yale.

    Sincerely, MIT

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