Standards. What standards do you want to live by? Do you want to live by high standards, to show the rest of the world what can be, to be a beacon of hope for those living in horrid situations? Or do you just want to say “fuck that, things are much worse elsewhere … let’s just go ahead and minimize the amount of civility we have to show others since, hell, we’ll never be as bad as all those people”?
You’re right, Ophelia. They can be thankful that ISIS and Boko Haram and a whole host of other barbarians continue to keep their standards at zero. It allows these asswipes to feel superior for the simple act of attaining barely-minimal standards of civility. How proud they can be.
Christ, I hate humanity sometimes.
gmcardsays
First World Atheist Struggle
I was oppressed because a religious monument was placed outside a courthouse.
I was oppressed generally pissed-off because a religious monument was placed outside a courthouse in a completely inappropriate location for a pluralistic society by a bunch of christo-bullies.
meshsays
I believe gmcard was being facetious to illustrate the hypocrisy of Dear Muslima reasoning within the atheist movement.
John Moralessays
mesh, that certainly seems plausible to me, absent any link to the source.
I think you owe me something. Or I owe you. Or something.
gmcardsays
@4 is correct.
suttkussays
Someone needs to turn this meme around. The first two pictures can be of men in the world with “real” problems, and the third picture can be some guy complaining, “Some feminist objected to me acting like an asshole! I’m gonna whine on twitter!”
meshsays
It’s far more satisfying to watch them make themselves look ridiculous. Seriously, anti-feminists are doing more to undermine themselves than any jpeg could between the wailing and gnashing of teeth for years over a woman saying “Guys, don’t do that”, Dawkins equipping his Christian opponents with all the argument necessary to have atheist concerns completely disregarded as a “First World Problem”, and the harassment campaign against women under the guise of “ethics in journalism” to combat the feminist conspiracy.
Saadsays
So the conclusion is these people must look up to Boko Haram and ISIS (may even be envious of them).
If being mean to women is a good thing in their eyes, then surely Boko Haram are their heroes.
Saadsays
suttkus, #9
Yup. First picture of a male POW being beheaded and the second picture of a GamerGater yelling at his computer because the female NPC is wearing clothes.
John Horstmansays
*sigh*
Abdul Alhazredsays
Someone has a problem — not with feminism — but with mean spirited control freaks (who happen to be feminists) demanding they assume the position.
Third world man problems: My daughters got kidnapped by Boko Haram.
First world man problems: Some woman got mad at me because I spread my legs on the bus and took up half the seat beside me.
Jason Sprattsays
Some of the commentary on the whole men sitting with their legs spread and taking up two seats, on the train or elsewhere, really annoys me. Asking men to act with some consideration and to display simple good manners isn’t some sort of feminist attack.
Being considerate of others and showing good manners in communal spaces is part of the requirements for being both a man and a decent human being in general.
When did being a selfish idiot become a defining quality of masculinity?
Someone needs to turn this meme around. The first two pictures can be of men in the world with “real” problems, and the third picture can be some guy complaining, “Some feminist objected to me acting like an asshole! I’m gonna whine on twitter!”
Like the right side panel with starving , homeless , refugees and the left panel a picture of the gamer guy from an NCIS (“Power Down”, 2009) introductory scene narrating his combat scene from the basement, and then:
“Mom! The internet went down again. Do something!”
Donniesays
or, better yet, keep the left side panel the same and replace the “First World Feminist Struggle” with “Basement Dwelling Gamer Problem”
Donniesays
or, you can use the situation with Raif and juxsasupose it against lawsuits about “God” in the pledge of allegiance or those atheists who cross out ‘in god we trust’ and the difference between “doing something”.
tonyinbatavia says
Standards. What standards do you want to live by? Do you want to live by high standards, to show the rest of the world what can be, to be a beacon of hope for those living in horrid situations? Or do you just want to say “fuck that, things are much worse elsewhere … let’s just go ahead and minimize the amount of civility we have to show others since, hell, we’ll never be as bad as all those people”?
You’re right, Ophelia. They can be thankful that ISIS and Boko Haram and a whole host of other barbarians continue to keep their standards at zero. It allows these asswipes to feel superior for the simple act of attaining barely-minimal standards of civility. How proud they can be.
Christ, I hate humanity sometimes.
gmcard says
First World Atheist Struggle
I was oppressed because a religious monument was placed outside a courthouse.
Kamaka says
@ 2
I was
oppressedgenerally pissed-off because a religious monument was placedoutside a courthousein a completely inappropriate location for a pluralistic society by a bunch of christo-bullies.mesh says
I believe gmcard was being facetious to illustrate the hypocrisy of Dear Muslima reasoning within the atheist movement.
John Morales says
mesh, that certainly seems plausible to me, absent any link to the source.
Kamaka says
mesh, I wasn’t quite sure which way gmcard was playing it. The revision works either outlook.
Kamaka says
JM @ 5
I think you owe me something. Or I owe you. Or something.
gmcard says
@4 is correct.
suttkus says
Someone needs to turn this meme around. The first two pictures can be of men in the world with “real” problems, and the third picture can be some guy complaining, “Some feminist objected to me acting like an asshole! I’m gonna whine on twitter!”
mesh says
It’s far more satisfying to watch them make themselves look ridiculous. Seriously, anti-feminists are doing more to undermine themselves than any jpeg could between the wailing and gnashing of teeth for years over a woman saying “Guys, don’t do that”, Dawkins equipping his Christian opponents with all the argument necessary to have atheist concerns completely disregarded as a “First World Problem”, and the harassment campaign against women under the guise of “ethics in journalism” to combat the feminist conspiracy.
Saad says
So the conclusion is these people must look up to Boko Haram and ISIS (may even be envious of them).
If being mean to women is a good thing in their eyes, then surely Boko Haram are their heroes.
Saad says
suttkus, #9
Yup. First picture of a male POW being beheaded and the second picture of a GamerGater yelling at his computer because the female NPC is wearing clothes.
John Horstman says
*sigh*
Abdul Alhazred says
Someone has a problem — not with feminism — but with mean spirited control freaks (who happen to be feminists) demanding they assume the position.
Ophelia Benson says
What are you talking about?
mithrandir says
Third world man problems: My daughters got kidnapped by Boko Haram.
First world man problems: Some woman got mad at me because I spread my legs on the bus and took up half the seat beside me.
Jason Spratt says
Some of the commentary on the whole men sitting with their legs spread and taking up two seats, on the train or elsewhere, really annoys me. Asking men to act with some consideration and to display simple good manners isn’t some sort of feminist attack.
Being considerate of others and showing good manners in communal spaces is part of the requirements for being both a man and a decent human being in general.
When did being a selfish idiot become a defining quality of masculinity?
John Morales says
[meta]
Jason @17, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MasculinityTropes
Donnie says
@9 suttkus says
Like the right side panel with starving , homeless , refugees and the left panel a picture of the gamer guy from an NCIS (“Power Down”, 2009) introductory scene narrating his combat scene from the basement, and then:
Donnie says
or, better yet, keep the left side panel the same and replace the “First World Feminist Struggle” with “Basement Dwelling Gamer Problem”
Donnie says
or, you can use the situation with Raif and juxsasupose it against lawsuits about “God” in the pledge of allegiance or those atheists who cross out ‘in god we trust’ and the difference between “doing something”.