[OTWell, Birger, I’m not one to put money in Zuck’s pocket unlike you, but easy enough to check:
“The 262 men of the 1st Minnesota held the line against all odds and Union reinforcements drove back the remaining Confederates. However, their actions came at a great cost, of the 262 men that went in to battle, 47 walked away unharmed. 215 men were either killed or wounded and the regiment suffered a casualty rate of 82%, the highest of any single regiment for a battle. The regiment also lost every one of their field commanders in the assault.”
(https://www.civilwarmed.org/1st-minnesota-at-gettysburg/)
No worries. 82% casualty rate, but a mention in the history books!
“Saved the North is a bit, well, excited.
The one decisive action of the war, you reckon?
birgerjohanssonsays
‘The one decisive action of the war, you reckon?’
Not even close, but their sacrifice mattered for that particular battle.
And they got nearly wiped out.
This reminds me…it is surprisingly easy to get people to have physical courage, but really hard to get them to show moral courage.
(glares at US congressmen)
John Moralessays
[OT]
“And they got nearly wiped out.”
Yah. Shame that was not part of the headline.
Again: facebook (‘meta’) views put $$$ in Zuck’s pocket.
Not gonna happen by me.
So: don’t mess with Minessota, for the Minnesotans shall nearly get wiped out is a more appropriate headline. Of course, then you would not have adduced it. Because for you, headlines are it, best as I can tell.
—
262 men in the context of that war << the 300 Spartans in that little war.
(But, to be fair, they did better than the Spartans, so there’s that. Yay!)
I betcha anything that if they had not held the line until the reinforcements saved them, it would not have materially changed the overall outcome.
You seriously stand by “saved the North”, or no?
—
Point is, they are not specially special.
Don’t mess with X is pretty much an universal claim — much more so when they are not peer adversaries, unlike that example. Not like the Minnesotans had only shield and spears and the Confederacy had machine guns and rifles, eh?
Tethyssays
Saved the Union, the North was never in danger from a bunch of corn-pone slavers. Gettysburg was indeed where the 1st Minnesota turned the tide against the Confederacy, but of course the resident Cabrón needs to Baaaaah about it.
It was a couple more years before the Civil war ended.
The 1st Minnesota faced overwhelming odds and held off against a force almost six times as large as their own.
“The superb gallantry of the men of the 1st Minnesota did save the Union line from being broken — and not only on July 2, as they assisted with the effort on July 3 as well.”
See the cherry-picked bit?
The Union is more than the local battle-line. The Union line in that battle, specifically.
Tethyssays
Most historians agree that the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg were the crucial factor in the Union victory. The were also at Bull Run, and other battles, but Gettysburg turned the tide.
We still have Virginia’s flag and proudly display it at our History Museum. Every few years they ask for it back and we say “Lol, never gonna happen.”
John Moralessays
[OT]
“Most historians agree that the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg were the crucial factor in the Union victory.”
Talk about a derail.
More to the point, no. Your claim is counterfactual.
Who started talking about the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg, again?
(You can lie to yourself, Tethys, but not to others about verifiable facts)
indianajonessays
Tethys, birgerjohansson, your time is being wasted…
Nice work Wrecktangle Pizza folks!
John Moralessays
indianajones: Nice work Wrecktangle Pizza folks!
Folk is a subset of people. Folks is the set of subsets of people. FWTW.
This is the summary of the video: when the federal agents arrived at Wrecktangle Pizza, staff blocked their entry and forced them back outside. As the agents withdrew, they released chemical irritants into the crowd. Word of the confrontation spread quickly through the neighbourhood, and nearby residents and businesses mobilised, gathering supplies and supporting immigrants who feared further enforcement activity. The restaurant, already active in local aid efforts, continued distributing food and resources as the community organised around it.
This is Birger:
The First Minnesotan regiment saved the North at Gettysburg.
Don’t mess with Minnesotans.
Hey Indiana Jones! Yes, he is denser than a black hole but Aussies somehow lost two Emu Wars, so he has no standing to diss the 1st Minnesota.
I didn’t have “form up and harass the heavily armed Ice-stapo agents” on my bingo card for 2026. It’s been a strange week, but my completely ordinary fellow Minnesotans are pretty courageous against invading oppressors. Must be all the Viking heritage.
Tethyssays
Minnesota is the land where all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average. Just ask Garrison Keillor.
John Moralessays
[meta]
Heh.
Yes, he is denser than a black hole but Aussies somehow lost two Emu Wars, so he has no standing to diss the 1st Minnesota.
Ah yes, the huddling together. The victims!
How’s your thread-copping harassment policy of me going, Tethys?
Your aspie wrangling? Your shushings?
I feel invigorated by them. I could use a few more.
You really don’t get it: it is not trepidation I sense about that, it is… expectation. Hopefulness.
So. Carry on pestering me. Truly a briar patch.
—
Righto. I shall concede some relevance, to be generous
A local pizza shop is shown to be an exemplar of civic backbone and neighbourly solidarity, refusing entry to federal agents and holding the line long enough for the neighbourhood to surge in behind them, seeing them off. Utterly creditable. No casualties, thankfully. Good attitude.
But they have not won the war against ICE.
And that is the analogic comparison at hand.
Nothing particularly special about heroic resistance or huge casualties; many examples all over.
I explicitly pointed it out @9.
Repeating myself even more is futile.
Tethyssays
Live footage from Minneapolis after the goons apparently shot and injured a kid for running away from them.
Happening now. Minnesotans are special. It’s cold, dark, and they are fighting back with whistles and excoriation for the heavily armed gangs.
Minnesota is the land where all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average. Just ask Garrison Keillor.
Australia is the land where all the men chunder, all the women thunder, and all the children are Vegemite‑fed so need no advantage.
Just ask Men at Work.
John Moralessays
14 January 2026 at 9:31 pm
futile
Correct! No attention for Cabrón behavior.
Obsessive.
(Reciprocal; 1:1 with you the initiator, Tethys. Be aware of your hypocrisy)
.The men of the 1st Minnesota and the actions they performed during the Battle of Gettysburg should be remembered by all. Some say that the 20th Maine were the saviors of the Union for repelling the already battered 15th Alabama from Little Round Top. The 1st Minnesota faced overwhelming odds and held off against a force almost six times as large as their own. The 262 men who went into that field preserved the Union lines on the second day of battle and saved the Union effort at Gettysburg.
The First Minnesota rushed through the storm of bullets coming from the direct fire of two brigades, into the midst and centre of this overwhelming force, with nothing but death to look for, and no hope or chance; for any other success than to gain the brief time needed to save that battlefield. And not a man wavered.
Seems to me the same spirit that drove the First Minnesotans at Gettysburg animated the defenders at The Battle of The Wrecktangle Pizza.
John Moralessays
seversky, yeah. Not that weird a spirit. Most commendable.
Yet again: A local pizza shop is shown to be an exemplar of civic backbone and neighbourly solidarity, refusing entry to federal agents and holding the line long enough for the neighbourhood to surge in behind them, seeing them off. Utterly creditable. No casualties, thankfully. Good attitude.
But they have not won the war against ICE.
That’s the relevance.
Has it yet saved the “North” against ICE?
Tethyssays
It’s only been a week, and the North is once again on the front line, against overwhelming force, and the ICE is cracking. Minnesotans are not backing down but ICE is about to discover real Minnesota winter. Let’s see how they cope.
Silentbobsays
@ 12 indianajones
Tethys, birgerjohansson, your time is being wasted…
Right? Back in the day we said, “don’t feed the trolls”. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
BTW is it a new thing for Morales to accuse everyone of “aspie-wrangling”? In 15 years of encountering the dickhead on and off I’ve never seen that before.
John Moralessays
“Minnesotans are not backing down but ICE is about to discover real Minnesota winter. Let’s see how they cope.”
That is predicated on ICE not having Minnesotans in its ranks.
(I reckon Alaskans might have a word about winter hardiness, BTW)
Tethyssays
John is mad that I called him an Aspie in yet another thread that he needed to make about himself. He clearly is unbothered and not obsessing over it at all.
Tethyssays
Johnathan Ross is a resident of Hennepin county. He is in hiding, because he has destroyed his life.
He [me] did protest as expected, but also complied. (Which I appreciate) I have a lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things being bewildered by people having emotional reactions to their oh so logical behavior. Human emotions aren’t logical, but they aren’t irrational either.
Knock it off John. Yes, I am going to threadcop you personally every time you derail yet another thread with your fucked up superiority complex. Stop attacking the commenters. You aren’t smarter than everyone else.
I told you I’d already had a hatefan who tried to pester me for years.
How’s it going for ya, Tethys?
Silentbobsays
@ 16 Morales
it is not trepidation I sense about that, it is… expectation. Hopefulness.
Morales, this is a description of trolling. This is what trolling means. You cannot claim out of one side of your mouth to be unfairly denigrated as a troll, and out of the other claim you rejoice in provoking as much confrontation as possible. The latter IS WHAT MAKES YOU A TROLL.
John Moralessays
[meta]
Look, Tethys: PZ once told me and another to neither talk to nor about each other.
One complied. I am one of the two.
I comply because I am genuine and honourable, best as I can.
I undertook to comply.
(You see the ghost of your future, on your current path.
Your choice)
Tethyssays
That you have your own troll does indeed say something about your obsessive issues.
Tethyssays
Meanwhile: ICE shoots another Minneapolis resident, and send several children to the hospital by throwing a flash bang under their family’s car.
Heh. You invert the ontology, and are also scabby. Two trolls, apparently.
It actually says somethiing about your own obsessiveness, since I but respond.
Go check. Always you intitiating it, mostly without warrant.
I mean, not like you did not advertise: “Yes, I am going to threadcop you personally every time you derail yet another thread with your fucked up superiority complex.”
(Your ‘out’ is cute, but)
Now, want me to quote where you told me I should be shafted up the arsehole, as part of your “lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things”?
Look back.
I was most immediate, unequivocal, and unambigous.
You insult not just me, but those people.
(Ah well. In around 3 years, you will achieve some sort of record, but that’s what it shall take)
—
You never did get కార్చిచ్చుకు గాడ్పు తోడైనట్లు did ya? ;)
Tethyssays
I in fact don’t read your incessant pointless replies John.
Have fun being a piece of shit.
John Moralessays
I in fact don’t read your incessant pointless replies John.
Thus the very reply I just quoted.
But I get it: you don’t actually read them, just note there is a reply and…
Have fun being a piece of shit.
A tad worrisome, that, given you literally wrote “I have a lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things”. I mean, not being one, I would not know, but I doubt that’s the optimal approach.
Dibwyssays
The troll will make a cogent comment now and then, but then it denigrates various other posters for no productive reason. A very sad life.
“#ICE does not move like the gestapo, they move like slave patrols.”
[…]
I can’t unsee this now. I can’t unsee slaver behavior in #ICE tactics. It makes way more sense, the Gestapo were copying them.
(Clears throat loudly)
The important thing is, today’s Minnesotans are doing a good job of not letting themselves get intimidated.
.
Also, Iran is an example of what happens if you don’t nip wannabe brownshirts in the bud.
Silentbobsays
Everybody needs to ignore the resident troll and follow F.O.’s link @ 40. Not “tangential” at all. Dead on target.
Jesus, John. Why don’t you tell us about your brave actions in resistance to the rising tide of fascism, rather than sniping at the people who are living under fascism and doing their best to fight back?
Or you could just shut the fuck up.
By the way, Minnesotans are rightfully proud that their ancestors and their state chose the just side in the Civil War. They should be. We need the historical inspiration right now. You quibble about that at your peril.
Also by the way…my great-great-grandfather at the time of the Civil War was an Iowan, not a Minnesotan, and he fought in the Mississippi campaign under Grant. He lost his health to malaria in Louisiana, lost his farm, and my family was reduced to living as migrant farm workers for a couple of generations. Lots of Americans made great sacrifices, many died, fighting for democracy and against slavery.
Do you have family stories of resistance in your country, or did they fight for the other side?
John Moralessays
I got stories about ‘paseados’ and my family losing their cellar business and becoming impoverished and my grandpa getting bad lungs from sucking blackmarket fuel to get by and dying of it and my mum missing out on crucial years of schooling. Different Civil War. Living memory still.
Again: A local pizza shop is shown to be an exemplar of civic backbone and neighbourly solidarity, refusing entry to federal agents and holding the line long enough for the neighbourhood to surge in behind them, seeing them off. Utterly creditable. No casualties, thankfully. Good attitude.
The only quibble is whether a 5 minute action won the war.
Tethyssays
Researching methods to thwart AI facial recognition with
face paint could be useful information.
Many protestors are wearing respirators and full face shields because the thugs are deploying chemical smoke irritants and randomly pepper spraying bystanders in the face when they get scared of the angry community that comes outside to stand witness, film them, jeer, and blow whistles.
I’ve got a new appreciation for La Marseillaise. French sound so lovely singing about citizens watering fields with the blood of the invaders. Mireille Matheiu’s diction is superb, and I imagine most Americans already know the tune of this rousing ‘fight song’.
At Least 31 ICE Vehicles In Minneapolis-St. Paul ‘Lack The Necessary Emergency Lights And Sirens’ Required By Law
ICE doesn’t care about the law.
“ICE doesn’t care about the law.”
Of course it does. It purports to be executing the law.
(ahem; that is, enforcing it. My Freudian)
The First Minnesotan regiment saved the North at Gettysburg.
Don’t mess with Minnesotans.
.https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14NZur1HybE/
[OTWell, Birger, I’m not one to put money in Zuck’s pocket unlike you, but easy enough to check:
“The 262 men of the 1st Minnesota held the line against all odds and Union reinforcements drove back the remaining Confederates. However, their actions came at a great cost, of the 262 men that went in to battle, 47 walked away unharmed. 215 men were either killed or wounded and the regiment suffered a casualty rate of 82%, the highest of any single regiment for a battle. The regiment also lost every one of their field commanders in the assault.”
(https://www.civilwarmed.org/1st-minnesota-at-gettysburg/)
No worries. 82% casualty rate, but a mention in the history books!
“Saved the North is a bit, well, excited.
The one decisive action of the war, you reckon?
‘The one decisive action of the war, you reckon?’
Not even close, but their sacrifice mattered for that particular battle.
And they got nearly wiped out.
This reminds me…it is surprisingly easy to get people to have physical courage, but really hard to get them to show moral courage.
(glares at US congressmen)
[OT]
“And they got nearly wiped out.”
Yah. Shame that was not part of the headline.
Again: facebook (‘meta’) views put $$$ in Zuck’s pocket.
Not gonna happen by me.
So: don’t mess with Minessota, for the Minnesotans shall nearly get wiped out is a more appropriate headline. Of course, then you would not have adduced it. Because for you, headlines are it, best as I can tell.
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262 men in the context of that war << the 300 Spartans in that little war.
(But, to be fair, they did better than the Spartans, so there’s that. Yay!)
I betcha anything that if they had not held the line until the reinforcements saved them, it would not have materially changed the overall outcome.
You seriously stand by “saved the North”, or no?
—
Point is, they are not specially special.
Don’t mess with X is pretty much an universal claim — much more so when they are not peer adversaries, unlike that example. Not like the Minnesotans had only shield and spears and the Confederacy had machine guns and rifles, eh?
Saved the Union, the North was never in danger from a bunch of corn-pone slavers. Gettysburg was indeed where the 1st Minnesota turned the tide against the Confederacy, but of course the resident Cabrón needs to Baaaaah about it.
It was a couple more years before the Civil war ended.
The 1st Minnesota faced overwhelming odds and held off against a force almost six times as large as their own.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTMrHwVbI9Y&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5tD
Tethys, such claims are verifiable:
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/charge-1st-minnesota
“The superb gallantry of the men of the 1st Minnesota did save the Union line from being broken — and not only on July 2, as they assisted with the effort on July 3 as well.”
See the cherry-picked bit?
The Union is more than the local battle-line. The Union line in that battle, specifically.
Most historians agree that the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg were the crucial factor in the Union victory. The were also at Bull Run, and other battles, but Gettysburg turned the tide.
We still have Virginia’s flag and proudly display it at our History Museum. Every few years they ask for it back and we say “Lol, never gonna happen.”
[OT]
“Most historians agree that the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg were the crucial factor in the Union victory.”
Talk about a derail.
More to the point, no. Your claim is counterfactual.
Who started talking about the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg, again?
(You can lie to yourself, Tethys, but not to others about verifiable facts)
Tethys, birgerjohansson, your time is being wasted…
Nice work Wrecktangle Pizza folks!
indianajones:
Folk is a subset of people. Folks is the set of subsets of people. FWTW.
This is the summary of the video: when the federal agents arrived at Wrecktangle Pizza, staff blocked their entry and forced them back outside. As the agents withdrew, they released chemical irritants into the crowd. Word of the confrontation spread quickly through the neighbourhood, and nearby residents and businesses mobilised, gathering supplies and supporting immigrants who feared further enforcement activity. The restaurant, already active in local aid efforts, continued distributing food and resources as the community organised around it.
This is Birger:
The First Minnesotan regiment saved the North at Gettysburg.
Don’t mess with Minnesotans.
.https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14NZur1HybE/
—
Nice work indeed, indy.
Hey Indiana Jones! Yes, he is denser than a black hole but Aussies somehow lost two Emu Wars, so he has no standing to diss the 1st Minnesota.
I didn’t have “form up and harass the heavily armed Ice-stapo agents” on my bingo card for 2026. It’s been a strange week, but my completely ordinary fellow Minnesotans are pretty courageous against invading oppressors. Must be all the Viking heritage.
Minnesota is the land where all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average. Just ask Garrison Keillor.
[meta]
Heh.
Ah yes, the huddling together. The victims!
How’s your thread-copping harassment policy of me going, Tethys?
Your aspie wrangling? Your shushings?
I feel invigorated by them. I could use a few more.
You really don’t get it: it is not trepidation I sense about that, it is… expectation. Hopefulness.
So. Carry on pestering me. Truly a briar patch.
—
Righto. I shall concede some relevance, to be generous
A local pizza shop is shown to be an exemplar of civic backbone and neighbourly solidarity, refusing entry to federal agents and holding the line long enough for the neighbourhood to surge in behind them, seeing them off. Utterly creditable. No casualties, thankfully. Good attitude.
But they have not won the war against ICE.
And that is the analogic comparison at hand.
Nothing particularly special about heroic resistance or huge casualties; many examples all over.
I explicitly pointed it out @9.
Repeating myself even more is futile.
Live footage from Minneapolis after the goons apparently shot and injured a kid for running away from them.
Happening now. Minnesotans are special. It’s cold, dark, and they are fighting back with whistles and excoriation for the heavily armed gangs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiaPyZMrtU
Correct! No attention for Cabrón behavior.
[OT]
Australia is the land where all the men chunder, all the women thunder, and all the children are Vegemite‑fed so need no advantage.
Just ask Men at Work.
Correct! No attention for Cabrón behavior.
Obsessive.
(Reciprocal; 1:1 with you the initiator, Tethys. Be aware of your hypocrisy)
https://www.civilwarmed.org/1st-minnesota-at-gettysburg/
Seems to me the same spirit that drove the First Minnesotans at Gettysburg animated the defenders at The Battle of The Wrecktangle Pizza.
seversky, yeah. Not that weird a spirit. Most commendable.
Yet again: A local pizza shop is shown to be an exemplar of civic backbone and neighbourly solidarity, refusing entry to federal agents and holding the line long enough for the neighbourhood to surge in behind them, seeing them off. Utterly creditable. No casualties, thankfully. Good attitude.
But they have not won the war against ICE.
That’s the relevance.
Has it yet saved the “North” against ICE?
It’s only been a week, and the North is once again on the front line, against overwhelming force, and the ICE is cracking. Minnesotans are not backing down but ICE is about to discover real Minnesota winter. Let’s see how they cope.
@ 12 indianajones
Right? Back in the day we said, “don’t feed the trolls”. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
BTW is it a new thing for Morales to accuse everyone of “aspie-wrangling”? In 15 years of encountering the dickhead on and off I’ve never seen that before.
“Minnesotans are not backing down but ICE is about to discover real Minnesota winter. Let’s see how they cope.”
That is predicated on ICE not having Minnesotans in its ranks.
(I reckon Alaskans might have a word about winter hardiness, BTW)
John is mad that I called him an Aspie in yet another thread that he needed to make about himself. He clearly is unbothered and not obsessing over it at all.
Johnathan Ross is a resident of Hennepin county. He is in hiding, because he has destroyed his life.
[ahem]
Tethys: 10 January 2026 at 4:23 pm
Tethys: 10 January 2026 at 4:29 pm
Oh yea, the other bit:
Tethys:12 January 2026 at 3:54 pm
I told you I’d already had a hatefan who tried to pester me for years.
How’s it going for ya, Tethys?
@ 16 Morales
Morales, this is a description of trolling. This is what trolling means. You cannot claim out of one side of your mouth to be unfairly denigrated as a troll, and out of the other claim you rejoice in provoking as much confrontation as possible. The latter IS WHAT MAKES YOU A TROLL.
[meta]
Look, Tethys: PZ once told me and another to neither talk to nor about each other.
One complied. I am one of the two.
I comply because I am genuine and honourable, best as I can.
I undertook to comply.
(You see the ghost of your future, on your current path.
Your choice)
That you have your own troll does indeed say something about your obsessive issues.
Meanwhile: ICE shoots another Minneapolis resident, and send several children to the hospital by throwing a flash bang under their family’s car.
Live protests at the scene of the shooting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBIaVZled-w&pp=ygUfU2Vjb25kIGljZSBzaG9vdGluZyBtaW5uZWFwb2x1cw%3D%3D
Heh. You invert the ontology, and are also scabby. Two trolls, apparently.
It actually says somethiing about your own obsessiveness, since I but respond.
Go check. Always you intitiating it, mostly without warrant.
I mean, not like you did not advertise: “Yes, I am going to threadcop you personally every time you derail yet another thread with your fucked up superiority complex.”
(Your ‘out’ is cute, but)
Now, want me to quote where you told me I should be shafted up the arsehole, as part of your “lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things”?
Look back.
I was most immediate, unequivocal, and unambigous.
You insult not just me, but those people.
(Ah well. In around 3 years, you will achieve some sort of record, but that’s what it shall take)
—
You never did get కార్చిచ్చుకు గాడ్పు తోడైనట్లు did ya? ;)
I in fact don’t read your incessant pointless replies John.
Have fun being a piece of shit.
Thus the very reply I just quoted.
But I get it: you don’t actually read them, just note there is a reply and…
A tad worrisome, that, given you literally wrote “I have a lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things”. I mean, not being one, I would not know, but I doubt that’s the optimal approach.
The troll will make a cogent comment now and then, but then it denigrates various other posters for no productive reason. A very sad life.
“it” does not know about being dehumanised.
I am not Father Confessor, Dibwys.
<snicker>
tethys @33 – holy shit, that’s fucked up.
Tangential:
https://mastodon.seattlematrix.org/@mousey/115897480849291168
(Clears throat loudly)
The important thing is, today’s Minnesotans are doing a good job of not letting themselves get intimidated.
.
Also, Iran is an example of what happens if you don’t nip wannabe brownshirts in the bud.
Everybody needs to ignore the resident troll and follow F.O.’s link @ 40. Not “tangential” at all. Dead on target.
Jesus, John. Why don’t you tell us about your brave actions in resistance to the rising tide of fascism, rather than sniping at the people who are living under fascism and doing their best to fight back?
Or you could just shut the fuck up.
By the way, Minnesotans are rightfully proud that their ancestors and their state chose the just side in the Civil War. They should be. We need the historical inspiration right now. You quibble about that at your peril.
Also by the way…my great-great-grandfather at the time of the Civil War was an Iowan, not a Minnesotan, and he fought in the Mississippi campaign under Grant. He lost his health to malaria in Louisiana, lost his farm, and my family was reduced to living as migrant farm workers for a couple of generations. Lots of Americans made great sacrifices, many died, fighting for democracy and against slavery.
Do you have family stories of resistance in your country, or did they fight for the other side?
I got stories about ‘paseados’ and my family losing their cellar business and becoming impoverished and my grandpa getting bad lungs from sucking blackmarket fuel to get by and dying of it and my mum missing out on crucial years of schooling. Different Civil War. Living memory still.
Again: A local pizza shop is shown to be an exemplar of civic backbone and neighbourly solidarity, refusing entry to federal agents and holding the line long enough for the neighbourhood to surge in behind them, seeing them off. Utterly creditable. No casualties, thankfully. Good attitude.
The only quibble is whether a 5 minute action won the war.
Researching methods to thwart AI facial recognition with
face paint could be useful information.
Many protestors are wearing respirators and full face shields because the thugs are deploying chemical smoke irritants and randomly pepper spraying bystanders in the face when they get scared of the angry community that comes outside to stand witness, film them, jeer, and blow whistles.
I’ve got a new appreciation for La Marseillaise. French sound so lovely singing about citizens watering fields with the blood of the invaders. Mireille Matheiu’s diction is superb, and I imagine most Americans already know the tune of this rousing ‘fight song’.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7MQ-SC9bmp4&pp=ygUPbGEgbWFyc2VpbGxhaXNl