It was a good night for Democrats and social democrats, with a big blue sweep all across the country. Mamdani won, although I think it helped that a corrupt clown like Cuomo (who was endorsed by Trump) was his opponent. Virginia turned a vibrant shade of purple. The California referendum on legalized gerrymandering passed, which I have mixed feelings about. Trump is literally hated by a significant fraction of the population, and I think he’s dragging the Republican party down. The Democratic party is also down — let’s hope that the leadership learns to recognize that their tepid timidity is not exactly electrifying the electorate.
Here’s one good summary of yesterday’s outcome.
He’s not right about Omar Fateh, who is running against Jacob Frey for mayor of Minneapolis. Minneapolis has ranked choice voting, and while Frey is ahead in the first pass, he didn’t reach the threshold — it’s going to take a few more days to tally up all the votes. Also, Kaohly Her, a Hmong woman and DFL candidate, won the St Paul mayoral race.
This is a good start to retaking the country from fascists. It is not the bigger 2026 midterm elections, though, and most definitely not even close to a 2028 presidential election, but we’re going in the right direction. I’m sure Trump is already annoyed and might be scheming to commit even more radical crimes in the near future.
Hmmm.. grteat tohave this good news fromUSoA elections.
Stil worried over how fair the mid-terms likely won’t be.
Good news. 2026 will be a wipe out for the House of Representatives. The Senate may flip too. Buried deep in the 2025 project is a ferocious program of privatization, selling off many government functions to oligarch billionaires. Destroying Social Security and Medicare et al is just a beginning. The GOP may have doomed itself with such insanity long term.
https://inthepublicinterest.org/privatization-report-3-18-2025/
That’s assuming we still have free and fair elections in a year. Trunk and Hegseth have made public plans to deploy national guard troops to all 50 states to help “supervise” the 2026 election. We’ll see what that does for Democratic turn out…
@3 IX-103, the ■■■■ing idiot
According to German satirical news website Postillon, you have to be afraid of even more drastic countermeasures.
@ ^ lasius : Yikes! Actually, yeah, wouldn’t put it past him..
@3 IX-103, the ■■■■ing idiot : Yup. Fear that’s a very big IF these years. Under this regime.
@2 cheerfulcharlie : I wish I had your confidence and could believe that – starting with the idea that there’ll be mid-terms next year at all. Hope you are right but afraid I very much doubt it – if the electiosn are free and fair Trump will lose badly – and that’s why I don’t think there will
All in all, a good day. But, over at Fox, this was their headline :
Clinton celebrates Dems’ victories as socialist Mamdani set to take control of America’s biggest city.
I literally snorted up my tea upon reading that. Clinton? WTF? Why any focus on her at this late stage? As for the dig at Mamdani, that’s no surprise. Get ready, they’ll hammer the Dems with the socialist label for the next year. It’ll be their new Woke, CRT, and they/them all rolled into one.
@6
Because they literally all have one brain cell, and one of the biological equivalents of a computer’s “bit”, has been stuck on “Clinton”, for a long time now. So, every time they try to compute literally anything the answer is like 2+2 = 3 + Clinton.
What will be important in future elections. Saving Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA, Women’s healthcare and more. No amount of cheating on the part of the GOP, will help. Sweeping the swarm of idiots Trump put into the government such as Roadkill Kennedy Jr. out will make voting Democratic attractive. Attempts by the GOP to cheat infuriate many and backfire hugely. Reining in the nonsense of ICE will be an issue. Adding voting booth “Monitors” sicced on America by the GOP will be just as unpopular. Killing Project 2025 dead will be a grand thumb in the eye of the GOP.
Passed by a huge margin.
It was 64% yes to 36% no.
True. Trump is trying very hard to impoverish the entire US population while handing the US to the ultra-rich oligarchy.
The GOP is fully complicit and will destroy the USA if they can.
One thing this election has shown in flashing neon lights with fireworks and sirens it that the US people want leadership and resistance to the destruction of the US democracy.
Old white guys like Chuck Schumer, the Democratic party leader of the Senate are obsolete. Schumer does a great imitation of a house plant and that is about it.
We’ve been a democracy for 236 years and it was working well up until January, 2025, when Trump was elected.
Me too, but I voted for it. Unilateral disarmament is not an effective strategy. A federal prohibition on gerrymandering would be nice, though unlikely, and perhaps unconstitutional.
As a California voter, we were being swamped with anti-Prop 50 messages (the redistricting proposition) for several months. Literally, a postcard in the mail every other day as well as continuous ads on cable, much of it being paid for by Charlie Munger, jr, trust-fund baby of Charlie Munger, Sr, former vice-chair of Berkshire-Hathaway. This stopped about a month or so ago. Apparently, the GOP backers being hit in the head by a brick with polls showing it was going to pass overwhelmingly, decided the effort was fruitless and backed off. It passed overwhelmingly. People here really hate trump.
I voted for Newsom’s legalized gerrymandering to slap Trump’s and Greg Abbott’s face. I can’t do much but vote, and often for things and people I don’t fully approve of, as signals to the powers that be.
Just to prove how out of it he is, Trump is digging in his heels about releasing the SNAP funds. He’s also demanding Democrats get back to work to end the shut down. As I understand it, Democrats are in Washington and ready to work. Johnson has sent the Republicans home. Little brats can blame other children only so long.
I note that in the article about Her’s victory that the St. Paul city council is now entirely women. That’s a good sign. Elect more women in 2026. The fact that the 119th Congress is still about 70%-75% straight white Christian men is a testament to just how lopsided our government is.
I wonder how practical it would be for Democratic voters in 2026 to have their votes notarized or some other method of being able to PROVE that they voted the way they claim they did.
The Virginia results were way better than I and probably most people expected. Spanberger was a very strong gubernatorial candidate so that helped tremendously. Jay Jones was almost not expected to win the Attorney General race, especially by a such a decent margin considering his controversy leading up to the election, that the Republican incumbent outspend him by a large amount and the GOP incumbent while being a Trump minion, was still seen as a strong candidate nonetheless. And Ghazala Hashmi winning by a double-digit margin for LT. Gov. was way better than I expected. And Virginia Dems picking up so much seats was mind-blowing.
The New Jersey election was not as nearly as competitive I thought it would be, I expected Sherrill to win by a narrow margin, maybe 3-4% at best but I was already to accept the fact she might lose too. The other elections around the country were also surprisingly good (I live in WA state and the Dem candidates look poised to win all the special elections that were in highly competitive seats, and most progressive candidates seem to be on track to win over moderates in Seattle). Also, In Aurora, Colorado, one on the Republican city councilors (Danielle Jurinsky) that spread the Venezuelan gang myth that Trump then adopted will handily lose her seat to a rational candidate despite her raising a insane amount of funds for a such a hyperlocal race.
And Mamdani won the NYC mayoral election despite all the smears and attacks. And California voters supporting prop 50 by such large margin was stunning to me as well. Voting works and I almost lost sight of that because of how awful everything feels at the moment. This was a good day.
Another one: Mary Sheffield, a Democrat, won the election for mayor of Detroit to become the first woman mayor of the city. I gather it’s nominally a non-party election.
Also seeing that Democrats flipped two seats in the Mississippi Senate…Mississippi!…costing the GOP their supermajority there.
I think it would be terribly ironic if Republicans carve out “Red” districts only for those districts to vote “Blue” because GOP politicians are so corrupt and inept.
Topical and spidery clue from today’s Guardian cryptic crossword:
American Right are rebuked, including number one web users (9)
ARACHNIDA
… Trump … might be scheming to commit even more radical crimes in the near future.
Might be??!? Please elucidate whatever grounds for doubt you perceive.
Ah, if only Dick Cheney had lived one more day, so that he could have gone to Valhalla knowing how thoroughly USAnian voters rejected his party…
Pierce R. Butler @ #18 & #19 — I’m sure your implication is correct: Taco will continue to scheme to get richer and stay in power (and out of jail). I’m not so sure about Cheney. Though he was as despicable as Taco the two were at complete odds. It seems that Trump’s GOP was not Cheney’s GOP.
robro @ # 20: … Trump’s GOP was not Cheney’s GOP.
Indeed: Trump took it away.
Liz Cheney’s attempted pushback against the Trumpistas always seemed to me not a matter of principle, just an attempt to reclaim the power of the Bush-Cheney faction within the Republican Party.
Viewed that way, it came as no surprise whatsoever that she failed utterly.
Valhalla is only open to warriors that die on the battlefield. Old men who die in bed go to the hall of Hel.
A question: Do you think the election result will stiffen the spines of the Democrats in congress during the shutdown?
(Silly question, they will find some excuse to fold. They always fold)
That is a silly question, because the Dems that are currently in office are in no way responsible for the R majority shutdown. America is quite accurately blaming the Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Dumpster for their incompetence.
I can’t find a single election that the Dems didn’t win, even in districts that are supposedly Republican strongholds like Mississippi and Georgia.
Ahem. Officially the longest shutdown of government in history.
(In this case, they have not folded yet, have they?)
So much comes down to the cluelessness of voters:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/11/andrew-cuomo-curtis-sliwa-lose-mayor-election-night-watch-party.html
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“Andrew Cuomo lost the New York City mayoral election so fast I almost missed it. The plan was to be in the room with the die-hard Cuomo-corps when the networks called the race for Zohran Mamdani, to soak up the scene as the last gasp of centrist dreams got flushed out of a midtown hotel ballroom. But by around 9:30 p.m., it was already over. Zohran Mamdani had won, Cuomo had lost, and I was stuck on West 73rd Street in the back room of a neighborhood Italian restaurant listening to the life story of a woman named Rachel who was incredibly mad at her upstairs neighbor.
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The Italian joint was playing host to the other loser in last night’s race: second-time Republican nominee Curtis Sliwa. Rachel was there because her life was hard, genuinely hard in a way that many Americans will immediately understand. She lived in government housing and was working hard to keep her two kids fed, but they were constantly disrupted by an upstairs neighbor with undefined mental health issues who was pounding on the walls and ceiling at all hours of the day. She’d called 311 about it but the cops wouldn’t do anything. The pounding was scaring her daughter, who was sitting on a chair next to us in a pink floppy-eared hat and leggings with little shiny butterflies on the knees. She was crying quietly while we talked, one of those whimpering meltdowns that kids have without actually screaming. The election, Rachel said, had been “confusing,” but she thought that if she met Curtis Sliwa he might be able to help her where the calls to 311 hadn’t. She worked hard. She paid her rent. She told me several times that despite the fact that she was Black—a Jamaican American immigrant—she couldn’t support Zohran Mamdani or the Democratic Party in general, who had taken her vote for granted for years. “I vote with common sense, not with this,” she said, touching her forearm to show me her skin color. She’d voted for Donald Trump in the last election, and supported Sliwa now—he was the only candidate who didn’t seem like “a con artist.” She’d seen Instagram posts that said Mamdani was going to push for Sharia law. She also thought the Democratic Party was pushing a “Pride agenda” and filling her elder son’s schools with books about nonbinary genders. None of this, she said, matched up with the Christian values she’d been raised with. “I’m thinking about my future, and my children’s future,” she told me.”
Dems flipped at least 13 seats in VA House of Delegates. Have a 64 to 36 majority. Wow!!
I voted for one of those flippers. 👍🏻
@16 Mississippi is a ward of the state (the federal state). It has the highest poverty rate of all 50 states and a sizable chunk, if not a majority of residents are on some form of governmental assistance–13.1% on SNAP in 2024, nearly a third in 2020
https://usafacts.org/answers/how-many-people-receive-snap-benefits-in-the-us-every-month/state/mississippi/
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/01/mississippians-eligible-for-food-assistance.html
Then throw in other programs like TANF, Obamacare… Mississippi residents are finally realizing that they voted against their interests in the last election. The federal government shutdown is hitting Mississippi hard, especially the SNAP/EBT issue. I imagine the Obamacare premiums are causing a lot of heads to explode too. Link below shows just how much Mississippi has to lose or is already losing, in the case of SNAP.
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/guides/impact-federal-cuts-social-safety-mississippi/
That said, they are the morons who voted for Trump in the first place.
And they still did not expand Medicaid coverage because they couldn’t bring themselves to approve of anything Obama did, even when it was in their best interests to do so.
With all the outrageous, destructive, illegal, inhumane shit Trump has done, why isn’t impeachment ever mentioned?
I guess this will remain a rhetorical question.
I’m an election judge in a St. Paul, Minnesota suburb. The only thing on our ballot was the school board (4 seats open), and the race to replace our DFL state senator, who resigned in disgrace after breaking into her step-mother’s home last winter. I expected a long, boring day with fewer than 300 people showing up to vote (we also have early in-person and absentee voting). Instead, 25% of the 2200 registered voters in our precinct showed up to vote on election day, and overall our precinct had almost 50% participation. The Democrat won the state senate seat 62%-38%, and the “Moms for Liberty”-endorsed candidates for school board were all defeated. If the whole country can do this next year, maybe we can slow the slide into hell.
@9 raven
Really? Was that your takeaway from American history, that the American experiment was working well all the way until 2025?
Trump is a symptom of an underlying antidemocratic rot that’s been there for a long time. If you’re interested in stopping the next tyrant, then you at least need to correctly identify what that is.
“Really? Was that your takeaway from American history, that the American experiment was working well all the way until 2025?
Trump is a symptom of an underlying antidemocratic rot that’s been there for a long time.”
Yes, and the tree is doing well until the rot kills it. It can still live a very long time.
(Bad metaphor)
Mate! You were not interested in stopping the current tyrant. So, that’s rather rich, coming from you.
@beholder: For me, growing up and learning has been a long lesson in just how much America has been failing to live up to its promises, so I can agree with you on that. Trump is a consequence of numerous failures over the past couple centuries.
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America. That means the USA, I know. Not South America. Not Central America. Not anywhere on the continent is America.
(hint hint: you are part of it, and its exceptionalism is its promise)
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(Sorry, this sort of sad sack defeatism and O woe is me! stuff irritates me, especially when juxtaposed with a USAnian POV)
Trump Demands Sinister Republican Response to MAGA Wipeout
Cry, Cry, Cry
Vance Family Strikes Out as His MAGA Brother Loses Election
flange @ #29
He’s been impeached twice. Didn’t have the votes to convict and still don’t.
@16 profpedant The vote is (supposed to be) the notarization. Any addition to this is just one more spot that an election denier can cry fraud. With or without evidence.
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USA is an acronym. Its citizens were known as Americans before they stopped being a colony. The people responsible for English grammar and naming anything America are long dead.
Get over it.
I share the annoyance at the woe.
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“Get over it.”
A misnomer (I won’t say semantic imperialism, but…) remains the same regardless of my attitude, Tethys.
Therefore, it makes no difference whether or not I do.
Whence your plea?
What is the point of complaining that Americans call themselves Americans? America is in fact the name of the country, so of course we follow English grammar and add the an/ian suffix to the name of the country to denote its people.
What else should we call ourselves? Usanians isn’t actually a word and it certainly doesn’t roll off the tongue.
Tethys, really?
“What is the point of complaining that Americans call themselves Americans?”
South Americans are not Americans, those are North Americans.
Except for some Central Americans, such as Puerto Rico.
(Surely the Caribbean is not America!)
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What is the point of truth?
Co-opting the demonym of a continent, which you attempt to justify by appeal to historical contingence.
(A bit like Israel’s claim to Palestine, no?)
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The United States of Mexico are not American, are they? ;)
The point is to hightlight that little bit of hegemonic entitlement.
@31. Trump enabing bad faith troll : If you’re interested in stopping the next tyrant, then you at least need to correctly identify what that is.”
Since you actively helped the last tyrant – Trump – get in – you have absolutely zero credibility here.
The way to stop tyranny was to vote for and support and unify behind Kamala Harris last year. Nothing else would have stopped Trump electorally. Certainly not voting for spoiler and Putin shill Stein. Certainly not attacking the only real alternative to Trump all the time as you did and still do.
“Well” is a relative term. Just like the terms “left wing” & “p[rogressive” are. They are dependent on context and circumstances and,well, relative.
The “Ämerican experiment” was working better and weller under Biden than it did under Trump. It would’ve improved under Kamala and has gotten dramatically, drastically, worse under Trump. As was predicted and as you were told and warned about pre-election. You along with the other third party spoilers made things actively worse by NOT supporting Kamala & the Democratic alternative to the Trump cult..
Yet you de facto in reality, in effect voted for that metaphorical symptom and for making those symptoms and that rot much worse.
Yes, there is a dire need for improvements in the “American experiment” or the USA’s system of governance and Democracy – but things ween’t going to improve under Trump and could have under Kamala. Push for reforms, sure. Argue against the only side that can make things better or work relatively well rather than putting the whole “experiment” in serious threat of destruction.
Is it really?
[perhaps pedantic]
‘demonym’ ain’t ‘name’.
Also, if “America” is shorthand for “United States of America”, then by substitution:
America = United States of (America)
→ = United States of (United States of (America))
→ = United States of (United States of (United States of (America)))
→ …[ad infinitum]
(Recursion without an exit condition is bad — but it’s quaint; cf. “GNU’s Not Unix”)
Pedantic as ever. A continent and a country are different things. Only one country in either hemisphere is named America. It has never had a name other than America.
Mexico however is still Mexico, despite also being colonized and evolving into the United States of Mexico.
Australia is equally a case of semantic colonization. I don’t hear anyone griping that you refer to yourself as Australians, because that would be just as silly.
England, Iceland, Greenland, and France are also countries whose names come from the various Germanic people who colonized them. I fail to see any problem with their names just because they aren’t indigenous. The descriptors British and English are an interesting case where they have both the native and the colonist name.
“It has never had a name other than America.”
Never?
Perhaps fix Wikipedia, then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_United_States#America
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America
Main article: Naming of the Americas
The earliest known use of the name “America” dates to 1505, when German poet Matthias Ringmann used it in a poem about the New World.[2] The word is a Latinized form of the first name of Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci, who first proposed that the West Indies discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492 were part of a previously unknown landmass, rather than the eastern limit of Asia.[3][4][5] On April 25, 1507, the map Universalis Cosmographia, created by German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller, was published alongside this poem.[2][5] The map uses the label “America” for what is now known as South America. In 1538, the Flemish cartographer Gerardus Mercator used the name “America” on his own world map, applying it to the entire Western Hemisphere.[6]
Colonisation, sure. Equivocation and cooption, no.
That’s because South Australians are Australians, and Western Australians are Australians, and Northern Territorians are Australians, and Tasmanians are Australians, and Queenslanders are Australians, and Victorians are Australians, and New South Welshmen are Australians, and even Tasmanians are Australians.
Contrast that with South Americans not being Americans, Canadians not being Americans, but Alaskans being Americans, and Puerto Ricans being Americans, but not the rest of the Caribbean. Mexicans are not Americans, Colombians are not Americans, etc.
(Terrible attempted analogy there!)
Actually the official name of the country to which you refer is The United States.
The [of America] bit is optional.
After all we don”t call
that horrendous orange fuckwit the President of America now do we?
No, unfortunately he is officially the President of the United States.
So not only HAS it had a name other than “America”, it’s current name is not “America”.
John Morales @ 48.
Africa may be worth exploring.
Lol. The American Colonies declared independence and changed into a Country called America. Y’all can obstinately claim otherwise until you’re blue in the face, but it’s still named America.
Good gravy, what a stupid and pointless complaint.
I know, yet you could not help but complain anyway, Tethys.
Maybe take your own advice and get over it.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/today-the-name-united-states-of-america-becomes-offici
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On September 9, 1776, the Second Continental Congress adopted a new name for what had been called the “United Colonies.” The moniker United States of America has remained since then as a symbol of freedom and independence.
Benjamin Franklin popularized the concept of a political union in his famous “Join, Or Die” cartoon in 1754. A generation later, the concept of unity became a reality. Thomas Jefferson is credited as being the first person to come up with the name, which he used while drafting the Declaration of Independence. In June 1776, Jefferson’s draft version of the Declaration started with the following sentence: “A Declaration of the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in General Congress assembled.” The final version of the Declaration starts with the date July 4, 1776 and the following statement: “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America.”
Unless and until Frank Lloyd Wright’s suggested demonym for US citizens, “Usonians,” is officially adopted, I will continue to call myself and my fellow citizens “American.”
This is one of the few times I don’t give a shit what pedantic foreigners think. You don’t get a say.
And, yes, Tethys was correct. The inhabitants of the American colonies were called “Americans” prior to their break from the UK.
From Edmund Burke’s “On American Taxation” (1774):
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“This is one of the few times I don’t give a shit what pedantic foreigners think. You don’t get a say.”
You made sure to inform me of that, thus vitiating that claim, and of course I did say, since otherwise you’d not be retorting thus.
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The colonies were not the USA, you know.
The term described the colonials, not the inhabitants.
Did Native Americans count as Americans? Nope.
Did they inhabit the place? Well, not-so-much after colonisation. But some.
Are they Americans?
Here, for your delectation: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
“He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.”
That document does go on, but:
“Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here.”
So. Your quotation precedes the actual creation of the USA, and it only refers to people whose brethren were British.
And, a couple of years later, it was:
“We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare”.
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Anyway, that’s all about the name of the ‘country” that is the USA.
It’s not that it’s the demonym I dispute, but that it’s a misnomer.
Anyway. I personally use USAnian, and nobody but nobody misunderstands to what I refer.
(in Spanish: https://dle.rae.es/estadounidense )
No shit. That was my point. Both terms were used before the US existed.
And as a member of a group who wasn’t considered American until the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, I don’t need your rhetorical questions to understand who was or wasn’t considered American has evolved over time.
I can understand now why Silent Bob treats you the way he does.
You mean in your opinion it’s a misnomer. Again, your opinion doesn’t matter.
What you choose to call Americans, and what they’re called in the Hispanosphere, isn’t relevant, is it? You don’t have a problem with what non-Americans call Americans.
You obviously have a problem with what Americans call themselves which isn’t going to change anytime soon regardless of how peeved you are about it.
“Both terms were used before the US existed.”
And specifically about immigrants and their families. The brethren.
I am under an injunction to not comment about this topic.
Remember your claim: “This is one of the few times I don’t give a shit what pedantic foreigners think. You don’t get a say.”
For someone who gives not a shit, you sure keep keeping on.
“What you choose to call Americans, and what they’re called in the Hispanosphere, isn’t relevant, is it?”
It sure got a rise out of you and Tethys, and of others in the past.
“You obviously have a problem with what Americans call themselves which isn’t going to change anytime soon regardless of how peeved you are about it.”
No more than I have a problem with any other misnomer.
(Maybe take Tethys’ advice and get over it)
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Point being, the United States of America is the only country that uses its continent’s name (America) as its national demonym (American) and as its name (informally).
There you go. Exceptionalism exemplified.
(Much as a fish swims in water, USAnians swim in that)
I’m annoyed at the asinine idea that Americans calling themselves Americans somehow indicates a belief in American exceptionalism.
Nope, it’s literally the name of the country, and follows the conventions of forming a demonym. The fact that there are two continents that are also called America doesn’t matter.
Only Oz is unique in being a continent and a country.
I refuse to feel bad for being American, just because our resident pedant has a stick up his arse over it.
Just to clarify the silliness of John’s assertion.
How are you failing to notice that Australia and Australians are named in exactly the same manner as America and Americans? Blame Britain or Spain if you must.
I didn’t ask you to feel bad, Tethys.
It is indicative that you feel I did, and that you dispute that phantom.
Basically, I made one (1) aside @34, and after that every single response I’ve made is to a comment about it to me. That is, none of my subsequent responses are other than direct retorts.
(The usual pattern)
“Only Oz is unique in being a continent and a country.”
Indeed, so it’s not ignoring the other 35 countries in the continent, unlike the USA.
347M in the USA (‘America’) vs 1.06B in America.
A minority, but they get the demonym.
No others are ‘American’, are they?
Anyway, I now desist. Point has more than been made!
It was a topic of discussion on a board I, from time-to-time, contribute to. While it’s not a topic I spend much time on, I do have opinions on it and expressed them.
I will add, my thoughts weren’t initially directed toward you specifically — I would’ve addressed by your name if they were — but you sure felt the need to reply to me, huh?
Actually, the continent’s name is North America. If I were to say “the North Americans invaded Vietnam in the 1960s” that would clearly be incorrect. Americans is the accepted demonym. Everyone knows what it means and even many of those who aren’t particularly fond of Americans have no problem using it.
“It was a topic of discussion on a board I, from time-to-time, contribute to. While it’s not a topic I spend much time on, I do have opinions on it and expressed them.”
It follows you do give at least some dribbly shit.
“I will add, my thoughts weren’t initially directed toward you specifically — I would’ve addressed by your name if they were — but you sure felt the need to reply to me, huh?”
#53 directly addresses my claim, so you are trying to be disingenuous here.
(But hey, deny that it was due to my exchange with Tethys, if you dare)
Heh. In anglophone spheres, I suppose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
North and South America. Not Central America, of course. Or Mesoamerica.
Shame South Americans are not Americans, and not all North Americans are Americans.
But some North Americans and some Central Americans are American, ignoring the Caribbean.
What part of ‘It’s not that it’s the demonym I dispute, but that it’s a misnomer.’ confused you?
I know to what the generic ‘America/American’ refers, and it’s to USAnians. Not to anyone else.
(Way to miss the very point! Fishies swimming in water, you mob)
You do realize Nick Wrathall were making the same claims as you were, right?
The weak and feckless lawyer-cowards of the Democratic party view impeachment as a legal proceding (or are pretending that it is) and so they have this weird idea that Double Jeopardy must apply. It does not.
Impeachment is a political proceding. It doesn’t matter if there aren’t the votes to succeed. Does it take over government function? what government ‘function’ is this that these oligarchs who are happy for our votes and who are pretending to represent us and not their money because they are not-Republican but who actually don’t care about us are talking about? I don’t see any ‘function’.
Because impeachment is political, they could literally make it about the White House’s destruction. An apparently legal (if not properyly bureaucratic) act. That is shameful.
They should do. their. jobs. They should grow a spine.
Walter, I didn’t miss Nick’s joke, either.
seachange, if Democrats have no spine, whence this record-breaking gov shutdown due to them not caving in?
Anyway, whether it’s impeachment or resolutions, it’s about political control; in each case, House acts, Senate blocks. Not a matter of spine, but of numbers.
e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/06/senate-trump-venezuela
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The US Senate on Thursday blocked a Democratic war powers resolution that would have forced Donald Trump to seek congressional approval to launch strikes in Venezuela, allowing the president to remain unchecked in his ability to expand his military campaign against the country.
The 49-51 vote against passing the resolution, mostly along party lines, came a month after a previous effort to stop strikes against alleged drug-trafficking boats in international waters similarly failed, 48-51.
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The speaker of the house controls the ability to begin an impeachment. Impeachment is one of the powers solely held by the House of Representatives.
Mike Johnson is busy keeping the government shutdown to prevent the release of the Epstein files, so there isn’t a snowballs chance in hell that he is going to start impeaching any of his fellow partners in crime.
I was not making the same claims as John Morales, though I do largely agree with their sentiment. I was in fact countering Tethys’ claim that the name of the country is America and that it has never had any name other than America.
While the country is known as America, its official name as adopted by the government of said country itself, is The United States.
You do after all know of the US Marines, US Army US Navy, US Air Force etc.
Mt specific point was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_president_of_the_United_States