Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Trump had another of his daily talks today.
After the presentation, Trump asked whether UV light could be used to help people with the virus, whether sunlight could be brought “inside the body,” or whether disinfectant materials could be used to cleanse bodies in the same way they disinfect surfaces.
“So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way,” Trump said, adding it “sounds interesting.”
He turned to the power of disinfectants, ad libbing about what it could do inside the human body.
“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out [from a surface] in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that [by] injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number,” Trump pondered.
Good god. Our best hope anymore is that Trump and his trumpkins start shooting up bleach or gargling isopropyl alcohol. Please, start a rumor that cyanide is an effective anti-viral.
That man is spewing criminal misinformation. He’s killing people.
I’ve seen what happens when you inject surface disinfectant into your body and the result was so bad I’d probably be put in Twitter jail if I posted a photo.
Fist-sized holes. In your person. Where the tissue died and rotted away. https://t.co/GTlWT0jbmT
— Claire Zagorski, MSc, LP (@Claireific) April 23, 2020
Unimaginable stupidity.
OMG. I worked as a welder for a few years when I was younger and I can tell you UV light IS NOT good for you. I don’t care if it’s 100 degrees outside, you wear your helmet and leathers or you feel real pain at the end of the day. Jesus that’s dumb.
A little quaternary ammonium solution IV might quiet donnie down for a while.
Trump asked whether UV light could be used to help people with the virus
Didn’t anyone tell him that it makes people brown?
Yeah, he and his pals should try these things out. Or, perhaps they could all jump out of Air Force One without parachutes…I pretty sure that will go a long way toward curing the disease.
This seems like a perfect example of him just winging it with bullshit. In a week he’ll deny he ever said it…which may indicate just how brain damaged he is.
And it gets worse with this exchange…
“At one point, Trump mused to Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, “I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there’s any way that you can apply light and heat to cure.”
“I’m not a doctor,” he added. “I’m like a person who has a good you-know-what.”
Washington Post reporter Philip Rucker pushed back. “Respectfully, sir, you’re the president, and people tuning into the briefings, they want to get information and guidance and want to know what to do. They’re not looking for rumor.”
“Hey Phil,” Trump replied. “I’m the president and you’re fake news.”“
Wow, awesome pushback dude!
Welcome to the dictatorship. People are scared shitless in front of him.
This is really similar to something that happened in Iran a few weeks ago.
Fake news went around that drinking methanol would fight the Covid-19 virus.
Methanol is highly toxic and if it doesn’t kill you, can make you blind.
300 people died and a 1000 were very sick.
Just for the record, drinking methanol has no effect on Covid-19 virus infection but has a high probability of killing you.
Don’t drink methanol!
Hey I think viruses can’t survive in vacuum. I have a good suggestion who should test this theory of mine first…
Well if you hear it on Fox it must be:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/regular-exercise-help-prevent-coronavirus-complications-from-worsening
I’ve been ahead of the curve walking the block for 30-40 minutes at 5am in hopes of improving my odds long before this story broke. Coolest time of day. Mostly me and the neighborhood cats. Not biggest cat fan but after initial skittishness they have accepted me into the tribe. They cheer me on like Rocky. Curious really as to why cool morning temps around 65°F draws cats toward asphalt. Weird. Should do a behavioral study.
Did see a possible tweaker on two day bender flying his drone at 5am. Floriduh. And freshly dead opossum yesterday just because.
Now if UV works against C19 what about spray tan.
I totally agree! And he should, as a leader, lead by example by voluntary exposure to strong UVC, once any discomfort is experienced, an injection of chlorine trifluoride should fix things nicely.*
Go to Wikipedia on the chemical, look at the rocket fuel section…
*I’ll happily play with chlorine trifluoride all day – on a different continent than I’m on. I mention it because no chemical provider stocks such a suicidal chemical, as one ding on a tank would lead to a metal-fluorine fire and the best management method for one of those is exceptionally good running shoes and a idling race car to escape.
No doubt every blogger needs blog fodder, but why even bother paying attention to anything 45 has to say, much less give the fool additional pixels? Arguably, there may well be some value to passive awareness of whatever inanities issue daily from that maw of ignorance and stupidity if only to know what to ignore, but why award him any of your mental effort and attention at all? True believers aren’t reading your blog, and any moderate conservative readers (unlikely as they are) simply caught in the insane undertow are likely cognizant enough to know better than to try imaginary remedies. So you’re really just preaching to the choir, which can easily be interpreted as merely performative. Others have successfully decoupled from the runaway train that is the current administration. I recommend it.
Go start your own blog and not write about things you don’t think we should pay attention to.
I’m pretty sure the Russia’s asset recommended Americans drink bleach and shove a UV tube up their asses.
Circle of Life and shit
Somehow I’m getting flashbacks to the scenes in the old Groo the Wanderer comics where for plot reasons people would temporarily be more curious about what stupid thing Groo was going to do next than scared of being caught up in it and maimed, and follow him around in a big silent crowd. It never stopped him from actually doing stupid things, but he would watch the crowd out of the corner of his eye while he did them, mildly puzzled.
I was chuckling with maniacal delight at the thought of Trumpsters drinking concentrated bleach then I thought they’ll probably give it to their children. But what the heck. Is there a special category in the Darwin Awards for stupid people who also remove their offspring from the gene pool? The Galton Award perhaps?
@garydargan:
IIRC, the question has been raised in the past, and you only get an honorable mention from the Darwin Awards if you kill yourself but leave living children. (I may be misremembering, but I’m pretty sure there was at least one winner who did not actually die but merely rendered himself sterile, thus removing himself from the gene pool.)
Darwin award winners must remove themselves from the gene pool (via death or sterilization) and NOT leave any living children.
Dear President Chump, I heard on Fox News that anti-freeze is a sure cure for Covid-19. I’m sure the motor pool must have some.
Don’t forget to send some to our pals Hannity, Carlson and Ingraham.
If Darwin had encountered Trump and the fools at Fox he probably would have abandoned his theory of evolution, reasoning that there was no way they could have evolved from primates.
@garydargan
Having your idiocy harm innocents disqualifies you from the Darwin Awards.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump were found huffing Lysol.
Might explain a lot.
garydargan (#15)
They already do that, though.
The Darwin awards are already somewhat tasteless and leaning towards eugenics, let’s really not celebrate people killing children.
@19
no I think Darwin was very familiar with people with the intelligence and understanding level of that fat bald old man, it’s not like they are rare just not commonly of late heads of state……no wait on second thought maybe they are common after all, it is the intelligence ones who are rare I think
‘uncle frogy
So maybe he has rendered himself immune by spending so much time in a tanning bed?
That’s utterly beyond parody.
I honestly can’t think of anywhere outside a totalitarian dictatorship where that wouldnt have brought down career ending ridicule.
Trump suggesting that injections of disinfectant might be worth researching doesn’t surprise me. Cows moo, ducks quack, incredibly dumb people say incredibly dumb things. What baffles me is that someone from the Science and Technology Directorate at Homeland Security stood up there beforehand and reported on ‘new’ research findings that heat, bleach, isopropyl alcohol and UV light kill coronaviruses, as if these were facts we did not already have 40 fucking years ago. Even if we’re only talking about SARS Cov 2 (as if it wasn’t made of proteins just like every other virus) these details were known back in December. What the actual fuck is wrong with the other people in the room that they allow this shit to be reported at the White House as if it is some amazing, breakthrough new finding?
Honestly, I also proposed experimenting with injecting disinfectants into people to see if that might eliminate infectious diseases. When I was five. I don’t expect most people to be as knowledgeable about biology as I am, let alone actual biologists and other experts. But to know so little about it these days, in his position, given current events? What an indictment of our system.
Honestly, I also proposed experimenting with injecting disinfectants into people to see if that might eliminate infectious diseases. When I was five. I don’t expect most people to be as knowledgeable about biology as I am, let alone actual biologists and other experts. But to know so little about it these days, in his position, given current events? What an indictment of our system.
Never, ever forget that it was the Republicans who put us into this situation. Without his enablers, Darth Cheeto would be whiling away his twilight years in a nursing home, rather than killing people with his ignorance and stupidity.
Remember in November.
I didn’t know DT went that far with his idle speculations, bloody hell. This will get people killed. To add insult to (fatal) injury, people might even start demanding scientific study of this nonsense. Or if not demand, then necessitate it: “Yes, we tested the president’s latest flight of fancy. No, it didn’t work. Now can we please get more support for real work?”
At this point FOX News could render a genuine public service and actually save lives by simply running a few hundred hours of “listen to expert advice to deal with the pandemic” coverage in their usual Trump-friendly format. Nice interviews with their usual guests (actual MDs, I’m sure they have some Fox friendly creatures in their menagerie), the usual vapid discussions, and just one talking point repeated ad nauseam: “You know, there’s a lot of rumour floating around so you have to be careful. To be on the safe side, it’s best to listen to the advice that comes directly from experienced healthcare professionals.”
Fox is probably one of the few powers on the planet that could actually get that point through to DT. It’s a pity it would go so absolutely against their grain.
Here is some real, you know, “science”. From the journal “Science”.
” COVID-19 vaccine protects monkeys from new coronavirus, Chinese biotech reports” https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/covid-19-vaccine-protects-monkeys-new-coronavirus-chinese-biotech-reports?utm_campaign=news_daily_2020-04-23&et_rid=17064255&et_cid=3300349
Now, I look forward to Trump trying to mention this, and getting the species of monkeys wrong.
In fairness to Trump, it WOULD kill the virus. You just have to be comfortable with the “collateral damage”.
So many idiots miss the hard part of medicine being keeping the patient alive.
You can kill any virus with an incinerator.
Where would he get an idea like that? Probably it would turn your skin orange…
@7 There are plenty of stupid people worldwide doing stupid things in an effort to warn off the virus .
People drinking cow wee ,and sitting in tanks of cow poop for example ,at least those didn’t cause any lasting harm
As for the snatch snatcher and his barmy theories ,we should be use to them by now ,and with a bit of luck he will
be gone in Jan next year .
Just wait until next week, when the Dotard suggests “nuking virus hot-spots”.
You know he will.
@Reginald Selkirk #34
Well, we do know that Hair Furor watches a lot of TV, and has done so for a long time. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he has an old Star Trek episode or two pinging around in the echoing cavern that passes for his brain – maybe “Operation:Annihilate” , for instance.
A suggestion: do NOT google “Vaping bleach”. People are actually asking about using their e-cigarettes to treat a virus.
Fortunately, they are all meeting a wall of people more sensible than Donald Trump yelling “DON’T DO THAT.”
I have an issue with the validity of the first syllable.
In 2004 the sitcom Black Books used this crazy idea as a joke – having misanthropic mess Bernard Black drink Oven Cleaner to “clean out my insides like it’d clean out the oven” when he’s stuck on his own with a cold and can’t cope without his friend Manny to look after him. Back then the concept was so ridiculous it was exaggerated cartoon-style humour.
One weeps for humanity.
ajbjasus@26 it’s common consensus in Canada that one of the things that killed Stockwell Day’s chances of becoming Prime Minister, when he ran the Canadian Alliance Party, was being open about his Young Earth Creationism. More than one person quipped that Day thought The Flintstones was a documentary.
Buttery Mails.
Hey, remember when Raoult Didier looked irresponsible?
Something something survival of the fittest. If only.
Cross posted from the Political Madness thread.
About Trump’s comments suggesting that doctors look into the use of disinfectants injected, or somehow otherwise used, inside the human body to kill the coronavirus: Trump is now claiming that he was speaking sarcastically to reporters. No, he wasn’t.
He even spoke directly at several points to Doctor Birx. He did not sound in any way sarcastic. He rambled on and on for several minutes about disinfectants and about UV light.
Today, he found out how stupid and evil those remarks were, so he is trying desperately to walk them back.
First: too late. (His cult followers already heard what he said, and some of them are following his advice.)
Second: nobody believes the sarcasm excuse.
Trump keeps using that word “sarcasm,” but I don’t think it means what he thinks it means.
From Steve Benen:
Hey, Trump, you don’t make the lie about sarcasm more believable by adding “very sarcastic” to your excuse.
Link
Continuing the MMS saga : Don”t drink the bleach.
This has been a “core” for autism for years.
I still do. (He also happens to be not a million kilometres away from me here in S.France.) Teh man is an incredibly dangerous quack, crank, and genocidalist; whether he or teh current occupant of Wacko House is more dangerous is open to question. A point in Didler’s favour is he doesn’t have access to the Big Red Button.
“When I shouted “Fire!!!” in that crowded theatre I was only being sarcastic to see how the fake press would react”
@46 A dickhead on faceache says he has been using mms for years .
I’d like to point out that Trump’s “sarcasm” explanation indicates that he thinks that deliberately lying to troll people (in a way that will kill people if they follow his advice) while speaking in his role as president is better than admitting he made a mistake.
well what is interesting is that at times he will say things out loud kind of innocently.
I think he just let it slip a key way he always communicates.
He always is willing to lie and exaggerate. sure he might hope they will believe what he is saying but he is in a way as he sees it trolling. The mistake people seem to be making is to think that what he is doing has anything to do with anything else but his personal advantage nothing else matters at all to him. The mistake is honestly come by because he is now operating in the field of politics where goals and political beliefs and history and philosophy matter, but to him there is nothing but personal advantage. he “trolls” his rallies like everyone else to get advantage from them
uncle frogy