That wacky dope has done one stupid thing too many, and it’s about time he was off the streets.
His name is Cesar Sayoc, and surprisingly, he is not a dedicated liberal.
Sayoc, a registered Republican voter who lives in Aventura, Florida, will face federal criminal charges for the mailed devices, according to NBC News.
They’ve also seized his van. More clues!
Investigators were examining a white van plastered with stickers carrying Trump’s name and the presidential seal, according to MSNBC. The network said authorities were looking at “right-wing paraphernalia” found at the scene.
Clearly a very thorough false flag operation. No word on whether they’ve found check stubs from George Soros.
Obviously a false flag. This guy was probably paid by Soros to construct an elaborate fake identity years ago – a sleeper agent who was activated just in time for the 2018 elections.
RM
LMFTFY: That wacky dope has done one dozen stupid things too many…
Trump will probably blame CNN for provoking the guy, and call for “Unity”. I’m so weary of the endless stream of diarrhea flowing out of his mouth. Please vote and stop it from splattering all over me. checks news. Ah… shit. Too late.
It’s like drug paraphernalia, but so stupid that you wish you had something stronger than this huge blunt to ease the pain.
The motivation for Trump sympathy is obvious.
Rump effectively took credit for his capture by saying that he’d told police to do the job they were already doing.
Holyshit. Is there a high quality version of that picture? It’s like a zoo of insanity and I want to take a good look.
I don’t know whether to say “Golly”, “Shazam” or “Surprise, surprise, surprise”.
I’m curious to see good pics of the other sides. The left hand side seemed to be almost pure Trump worship, but the back windows had stickers with more writing and images of guns.
What scares me is that there’s a few people around here driving around in vehicles similarly obsessively decorated with right wing “paraphernalia” (although, much of it is pro-life drivel, possibly left overs from the Terry Schiavo era). Oh, and there’s the yahoos with confederate flags flying from the beds of their pickups.
I guess this is the original:
https://twitter.com/thereal_mo01/status/1055844641952665600/photo/1
Looks like maybe 14 devices now. #13 to Kamala Harris, #14 to Tom Steyer.
looks like the angry old white terrorist version of the free candy child abduction van
False flag? or the Chinese? It’s so hard to tell.
MAGA fans are just going to say he is a…
..wait for it…
…Sayoc puppet.
Reading the comments on the twitter feed Ragutis@9 linked to, the backup conspiracy theory is already being hawked: the stickers are unfaded, so obviously they were put on the van by the Deep State!!!!??!!eleventy!
Those posters with gunsight targets remind me of some campaign poster from a few years ago. Sarah Palin? Several of the people I can identify have received a package. Wonder if Michael Moore has gotten his.
http://instantrimshot.com/
Frack! It just had to be Florida Man ☹️
Just shows the influence toxically insane political rhetoric has on people. I doubt the Orange Rager will own up to any of it. And some of his most unhinged supporters and other nutters will see this as “fake news”, a “false flag”, or “deep state” October surprise to manipulate midterms. Scary times.
Strange how dissonance works. When confronted with stuff like this conspiracy types will double down and get even more unhinged.
Hopefully sanity will soon prevail in Florida and voters keep Voldemort from Senate. That would be a bright ray of sunshine.
I think being Florida Man is the worst kind of superpower.
I noticed a sticker on the van showing Hillary Clinton’s face in a set of gunsights, and hereby predict the next response from the Dim Side of the Force: “He had a Hillary Clinton sticker on the window! He was clearly a high-ranking Democratic operative!” (Add CAPS to suit taste.)
@Kip T. W.,
Some of the twits in the thread Ragutis linked to @9 discovered someone with his name who belongs to the “Democrat Party”. A couple things: first, “Democrat Party” is a well-known insult many goppers use; second, in states where you register for a party pretty much anyone can register for whatever party they want; third, and related, Donald Trump registered as a Democrat back in 2001.
So yeah, must be the Democrats fault.
Seriously, they are already doing the “paid Soros agent” routine in the delusional conservative circles now. It is the quintessential irrational conspiracy thinking: If the evidence puts my beliefs in a negative light, or contradicts my beliefs, then that evidence must be planted/fake/hoax/false flag operation.
They never learned the lesson that the method is more important than the conclusion. If your method for discovering facts doesn’t have the ability of error correction and self-reflection, you will never be able to change your mind as all contradictory information you come across will just be rationalized and dismissed as fake.
They are dangerous idiots and they have lost their minds.
19 What A Maroon
“I voted for the Democratic Party all my life, but when 9/11 happened, I saw the light and suddenly started calling it The Democrat Party. Signed, Lifelong Libtard.”
Florida Man superpowers?
Tosses live gators through fast food drive thru windows? That’s kinda scary.
So much for that lie.
More on this guy: seems he made death threats against at least one woman on Twitter. Twitter, of course, did nothing: https://mobile.twitter.com/RochelleRitchie/status/1055867631461416962
I just read the, all about Florida man MAGA bomber. article from CNN.
This guy doesn’t seem all that together, smart, or competent.
In fact, those bombs weren’t very well made and were unlikely to go off.
The point he was trying to make was….well, who knows.
It doesn’t make any sense to normal people.
Sayoc has claimed connections to the Seminole tribe, but a Seminole spokesman says no evidence has been found he is. And apparently his father is an immigrant from the Philippines.
https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article220680590.html
I feel compelled to urge restraint in the language we use with this suspect’s arrest. The names Richard Jewell and Clayton Hartwig come immediately to mind. Considering the publicity of this case, I think merits more caution still. I’ll bet a dollar that statistics support my suspicions that the higher profile the crime, the more likely the initial suspect is wrong. Then there is the checkered history of the FBI crime lab to consider as well.
That van looks like the pictorial equivalent of PZ’s Catholic “reviewer”. Could ask the same question – that van is clear evidence of psychiatric problems, but because it is “politics” and Trump I guess it would be seen as normal these days. But what is it about Trump that causes him to have the same effect on his followers as did the founders of religion? It seems to me the phenomenon is well past any historical comparison I can think of.
Why???
He has already admitted it!!!
I feel compelled to urge TGAP Dad to learn to read the news reports.
Ya know what the most screwed up thing to me is about the whole issue? Five days of one Republican mouthpiece after another trying to equate restaurant patrons jeering at Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell or Sarah Huckabilly Sanders with MAILING BOMBS TO PEOPLE. “Civility” they whine… My mother always taught me to be polite, but she never equated being loud and rude to ATTEMPTED MURDER.
The Republican party must be destroyed. Vote every one of those fuckers out and start anew with Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt, JEB!, and Kasich. They’ll still be wrong on just about any policy, but at least we might be somewhat more certain that they’re actually human with at least something sort of resembling some semblance of principles, empathy and morality.
A republican is the kinda guy that punches you in the face, then steps back with his hands up saying, “Hey, civility man.” But let’s not stereotype. Not all republicans are terrorists.
Well, they’ll pretend to, anyway. Given how casually they lie when the facts are clearly verifiable, I see no reason to believe them when it’s down to their word alone.
Let’s not judge before all the facts are in. I’m keeping an open mind on the subject.
…sorry, sorry: Florida Man superpower: shoots lightning bolts from his finger tips. Can only hit his own feet. Visualize it and you’ll chuckle.
He must’ve been a menace on the road with all of that crap on the windows.
Once the vehicle was towed, the neighborhood likely cheered.
I love it that this guy has been called the Magabomber and I do so hope that the name sticks.
Like Ragutis @#8, I see quite a few vehicles (often jacked-up trucks) here in S. Texas sporting many of the same stickers.
There are even a few similarly decorated vans around. You never know when one of those crazy loons will crack.
@33:
Heh heh.
haha that car. Yep, trump’s rhetoric had nothing to do with it!
So Dave Futrelle dug through his alleged twitter account, and it’s a deep well of hate and delusion.
Twitter, surprise surprise, shut down his account after he was arrested, but not after he was reported for making death threats.
It seems he had his house foreclosed on by Mnuchin in what appears to be a shady deal…and then decided to take his anger out on Democrats?
Once again, someone votes against their own interest.
To follow up on Sayoc’s claims of being Seminole NPR reports he’s of Italian descent on his mother’s side, and that his family members couldn’t understand why he’d claim to be Native American.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/26/661137000/what-we-know-about-cesar-sayoc-the-man-charged-in-the-suspicious-packages-case
It astonishes me that so many liberal/progressive Americans seem unable to conceive a USA without the Republican Party – despite the first quoted sentence, the second suggests you’re one of them. Why not replace it with an actual left-of-centre* party? You already have what most Europeans would recognise as a centre-right party: the Democrats. Or even with more than one new party – admittedly difficult given the American constitution, which looks as if it was designed to produce a duopoly, even though it clearly wasn’t.
*I mean the centre of American opinion on issues, when measured without asking them their party affiliation or whether they consider themselves “liberal”, “conservative” or “moderate”.
Yeah. We already have a conservative party: the Democrats. Then we’ve got an insanely far-right party, the Republicans. I’d rather see the Republicans wither away completely — Kasich & JEB are horrible — and a real progressive party rise up.
I feel compelled to urge a little caution on the people condemning this suspect, especially since this case is of such high profile replete with round-the-clock coverage. These traits always incentivize enforcement to quickly grab a suspect to parade before the media. Those of us old enough need only remember such suspects as Richard Jewell and Clayton Hartwig for some comparisons. Both had their reputations utterly destroyed.
I questioned that guy’s commitment because there was no paint or stickers on the paint. The nut job vans I’ve seen all have free hand painted messages and bumper stickers all over them. How serious could he be if he was still thinking of re-sale?
@TGAP Dad – once again, you’ve posted without reading. The suspect has been charged, he has a history of bomb threats and was arrested once before for threatening CNN. In the van they found matching fingerprints and DNA to one of the bomb packages, material for the bombs, pictures of those sent bombs with red crosses over their faces. He has made death threats on twitter and has multiple social media accounts promoting hate and violence against Trump’s ‘hate figures’.
I know you’re urging caution, but can I urge you to read a news report before posting the same stuff a third time.
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I wouldn’t assume that he knows that his bombs were shoddy and unlikely to work properly. Combine it with the myth of the deep state, and the point becomes clear: erase the people he’s been told are destroying America by any means possible because the state is protecting them from Trump by some unknown means. Despite having zero basis in actual fact, it makes perfect sense given the nonsense that passes as “common knowledge” among the far right.
@everyone…
Sorry for the uninformed caution I urged. It was a busy day for me, and I didn’t follow my own frequent admonition to others. Mea culpa. The web page was acting up, also, refreshing itself several times. I didn’t see the multiples until later. It happens. Please keep the flamethrowers aimed my way on low.