I brought that Washington state ‘academic freedom’ bill to your attention a while back. I’ve been hearing from lots of readers from the Pacific Northwest that the bill died in committee. Perfect!
I think the politicians are starting to get the message that this whole “Christians America” concept is a really bad idea, not to mention an outrageous lie, and perhaps seditious too.
Go Washington!
Jsays
That’s what I’m talking about! This brightened my night.
Nicely done, Washington – first you deny Huckabee his first primary win outside of the flat-earth belt, now this!
Now…could Rep. Waxman and company put the smackdown on HRES 888, PLEASE?
Mark Centzsays
Thank you, PZ. Good to know that the emails to my reps may have had a lot of company.
Andy, my fair state’s wingnut-dominated GOP gave Pat Robertson a win in ’88, and there looks to be shananigans concerning the current totals in any case. The good news is the amazing turnout for the Democrats yesterday, there were 79 people for my precinct, up from 16 in ’04. This bodes very well.
That didn’t take long. Obviously the work of the Worldwide Darwinist Federation for Global Domination (or is that the Worldwide Domination Federation for Global Darwinism?). Watch No-wits parlay this into another conspiracy yarn. *yawn*
Turnout wasn’t great everywhere in Washington… only 13 people turned out from my precinct. I was very happy to see Huckabee not take the Republican caucuses, but we have yet to see what happens with the Republican primary in Washington…
I was very happy to see Huckabee not take the Republican caucuses
Still remains to be seen, and the state did, after all, go for Robertson in 1980. Washington’s Republican party has resumed counting delegates in the wake of all the bad publicity and Huckabee’s threatened legal action.
But I have to give it to them; it was some kind of ballsy to stop the delegate count halfway through and just declare McCain the winner. It’s not just any old political party that’s willing to publicly come out and declare its contempt for voters and the process quite so openly.
Thanks PZ! Your efforts in getting the word out are much appreciated.
Mike Richardsonsays
The turnout was great at my neighborhood Democratic caucus in Seattle. It was standing room only, with several hundred of us packing the school cafeteria by the time the voting took place. Just as we were tabulating the votes in my precinct, we had a surprise visit from WA state governor Christine Gregoire, who spoke briefly to a very jazzed crowd.
Definitely a caucus to remember!
waldteufelsays
I can’t wait to read the DI whine about this one.
Jay Claytonsays
Han is retracting his bogus paper.
You helped civilization, PZ. My hat is off to you.
BTW, you exposed another douchebag along the way. Joshua LaBaer at Harvard claimed “much of the paper was good science,” farcical given Lars line-by-line evisceration of the paper on his blog.
Intellectual diversity: every campus already has that. They’re called freshmen. Then the intellects become sophomores. The diverse get wedgied and drop out. That’s called natural selection.
As soon as I read it here, I emailed all my representatives, and a couple who weren’t mine. Good going!
Ditto on the caucus comment above. Four years ago when I went our precinct had about ten people present. This year it was nearly forty. The entire city, as was the case last time, was in one venue, broken into appropriate areas for discussion. This year, in a much larger venue, the place was packed beyond ability to function. Monster turnout. One would think it bodes well…
Jsays
Re #13:
Han is retracting his bogus paper.
You helped civilization, PZ. My hat is off to you.
BTW, you exposed another douchebag along the way. Joshua LaBaer at Harvard claimed “much of the paper was good science,” farcical given Lars line-by-line evisceration of the paper on his blog.
Jay,
I must rise to the defense of my colleague Dr. LaBaer. I was suspicious of the Crimson article because it paraphrased Prof. McDonald as stating that Warda and Han “may have stolen sentences from at least six recent biology papers,” when in fact he documented the near-verbatim copying of entire paragraphs.
I emailed Dr. LeBaer and he said that at the time the Crimson reporter contacted him, he had heard suggestions of plagiarism but didn’t know which sections were stolen; the “good science” sections were, in retrospect, most likely the sections copied from real research papers. He was surprised that he was even quoted, since he explicitly told the reporter could not comment on the paper since he was not an expert in mitochondrial biology.
Trust me, I agree that there is egregious douchebaggery going on here, but Dr. LeBaer doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with the bad guys.
Bobbysays
I was suspicious of the Crimson article because it paraphrased Prof. McDonald as stating that Warda and Han “may have stolen sentences from at least six recent biology papers,” when in fact he documented the near-verbatim copying of entire paragraphs.
I thought the worst flaw was that they said (twice) that the authors gave “little” support for their creationist claims, rather than “none whatsoever”, as was actually the case.
danley says
Don’t tell Ben Stein.
Andy James says
I think the politicians are starting to get the message that this whole “Christians America” concept is a really bad idea, not to mention an outrageous lie, and perhaps seditious too.
Go Washington!
J says
That’s what I’m talking about! This brightened my night.
Nicely done, Washington – first you deny Huckabee his first primary win outside of the flat-earth belt, now this!
Now…could Rep. Waxman and company put the smackdown on HRES 888, PLEASE?
Mark Centz says
Thank you, PZ. Good to know that the emails to my reps may have had a lot of company.
Andy, my fair state’s wingnut-dominated GOP gave Pat Robertson a win in ’88, and there looks to be shananigans concerning the current totals in any case. The good news is the amazing turnout for the Democrats yesterday, there were 79 people for my precinct, up from 16 in ’04. This bodes very well.
markp says
Seems like any bill with the words “freedom” or “patriot” in its title should be assumed dodgy until proven otherwise.
markp says
does that mean promoting stupidity alongside intelligence?
(sorry for the double post)
Kristine says
Let’s do the Time Warp again!
That didn’t take long. Obviously the work of the Worldwide Darwinist Federation for Global Domination (or is that the Worldwide Domination Federation for Global Darwinism?). Watch No-wits parlay this into another conspiracy yarn. *yawn*
Kirt says
Turnout wasn’t great everywhere in Washington… only 13 people turned out from my precinct. I was very happy to see Huckabee not take the Republican caucuses, but we have yet to see what happens with the Republican primary in Washington…
thalarctos says
Still remains to be seen, and the state did, after all, go for Robertson in 1980. Washington’s Republican party has resumed counting delegates in the wake of all the bad publicity and Huckabee’s threatened legal action.
But I have to give it to them; it was some kind of ballsy to stop the delegate count halfway through and just declare McCain the winner. It’s not just any old political party that’s willing to publicly come out and declare its contempt for voters and the process quite so openly.
Form&Function says
Thanks PZ! Your efforts in getting the word out are much appreciated.
Form&Function says
Thanks PZ! Your efforts in getting the word out are much appreciated.
Mike Richardson says
The turnout was great at my neighborhood Democratic caucus in Seattle. It was standing room only, with several hundred of us packing the school cafeteria by the time the voting took place. Just as we were tabulating the votes in my precinct, we had a surprise visit from WA state governor Christine Gregoire, who spoke briefly to a very jazzed crowd.
Definitely a caucus to remember!
waldteufel says
I can’t wait to read the DI whine about this one.
Jay Clayton says
Han is retracting his bogus paper.
You helped civilization, PZ. My hat is off to you.
BTW, you exposed another douchebag along the way. Joshua LaBaer at Harvard claimed “much of the paper was good science,” farcical given Lars line-by-line evisceration of the paper on his blog.
Kevin Hayden says
Intellectual diversity: every campus already has that. They’re called freshmen. Then the intellects become sophomores. The diverse get wedgied and drop out. That’s called natural selection.
Sid Schwab says
As soon as I read it here, I emailed all my representatives, and a couple who weren’t mine. Good going!
Ditto on the caucus comment above. Four years ago when I went our precinct had about ten people present. This year it was nearly forty. The entire city, as was the case last time, was in one venue, broken into appropriate areas for discussion. This year, in a much larger venue, the place was packed beyond ability to function. Monster turnout. One would think it bodes well…
J says
Re #13:
Jay,
I must rise to the defense of my colleague Dr. LaBaer. I was suspicious of the Crimson article because it paraphrased Prof. McDonald as stating that Warda and Han “may have stolen sentences from at least six recent biology papers,” when in fact he documented the near-verbatim copying of entire paragraphs.
I emailed Dr. LeBaer and he said that at the time the Crimson reporter contacted him, he had heard suggestions of plagiarism but didn’t know which sections were stolen; the “good science” sections were, in retrospect, most likely the sections copied from real research papers. He was surprised that he was even quoted, since he explicitly told the reporter could not comment on the paper since he was not an expert in mitochondrial biology.
Trust me, I agree that there is egregious douchebaggery going on here, but Dr. LeBaer doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with the bad guys.
Bobby says
I thought the worst flaw was that they said (twice) that the authors gave “little” support for their creationist claims, rather than “none whatsoever”, as was actually the case.