One more fun thing before the sun sets over the mountains –
I think the lady Benson has earned this.
For when you REALLY need someone to know you detest them.
“You’re so rotten inside that dermestid beetles wouldn’t eat your corpse if you spent the rest of your life pegging with dead ferrets and atoning for your misdeeds. Fuck off so hard that you unbirth your own grandparents and cause a spacetime collapse. The resulting new universe will be better because you won’t be in it, you suppurating hospital dumpster.”
thephilosophicalprimate says
“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O Lord make my enemies ridiculous, petty, hostile, childish, melodramatic asshats.’ And God granted it.”
— Voltaire, slightly edited
John Morales says
What I see is distilled hate wrapped in a half-witticism, obviously puffing out to some audience.
Sad and obnoxious.
chigau (違う) says
I see horrible mixed metaphors, probably as a result of consulting a thesaurus.
And ignorance of Dermestidae behaviour.
John Morales says
I did take a look to gain context.
24 people like this.
as I write.My impression is that it was enthusiastically well-appreciated by its audience.
Blanche Quizno says
What is Alex Gonzalez’ problem?
chigau (違う) says
Maybe Alex Gonzalez’s problem is that Alex Gonzalez is an asshole?
John Morales says
chigau, can’t say. I’ve expressed my opinion about that post to Alex, the which was taken about as well as could be expected.
The uniformly approbative nature of the comments on that post is plausibly explainable.
latsot says
When people compete like this to say the worst things they can to or about someone, for mutual in-circle approval, I’m reminded of those kids at school who collaborated with bullies to rule themselves out as a target providing they could keep coming up with inventive ways for the bullies to make other people miserable.
Holms says
I feel that Alex Gonzalez left a line off that laughably purple tirade, something along the lines of:
“…you suppurating hospital dumpster.”
*adjusts fedora*
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite says
Mocking beliefs, ideas and behaviors is fine in general, though there should be some morals and ethics applied to how it’s done and there is not a lot of agreement on the form the morals and ethics should take yet. Characterizing particular people as being particular good examples of bad behavior ideas and beliefs because of how often they display them and let them effect other people is also fine in general and needs similar morals and ethics. “Sexist”, “racist”, “TERF” and even “asshole” are useful and always need some some ability to explain their use.
But characterizing a whole person like this and combining it with such terrible wishes for their fate is just disgusting. It’s literally dehumanizing and a person who wishes their political enemies dead is not someone who has an acceptable regard for people in general. I don’t hate my political enemies as whole persons because political conflicts should not be about death. I wish them to become better people, not dehumanized and dead.
sambarge says
I assumed that was a quote from Alex’s favourite author. That said, it seems like some serious over-kill. How can anyone be that angry about something Ophelia didn’t say?
Ophelia Benson says
Who’s Alex’s favorite author?
Ophelia Benson says
Alex certainly has form in this area. A long post by Alex a few months ago –
http://alexandania.com/2014/11/12/priorities-cfi-ottawa-and-how-the-atheist-movement-failed-me/
Alex got booted out of CFI for telling someone to let the door hit her on her way out. It was Eric Adriaans who booted Alex out, in no uncertain terms. I was on a panel with Eric Adriaans last month. I liked him. (He’s the ED of CFI-Canada.)
It’s all there in the post, what Eric told Alex and everything.
Alex has form.
sambarge says
Oh, I don’t know. It’s a hypothetical favourite author but I was thinking of an untalented fantasy/SF writer who is aspiring to Pratchett but falls short.
Of course, I only assumed it was a quote because it has quotation marks around it. Who puts quotes around what they’ve written themselves? That’s like talking about yourself in the 3rd person; that’s unnecessary and weird.
Z says
That link doesn’t leave anyone looking well in my eyes. Including Gonzalez. It’s also a fine example of someone making a minor transgression, getting backlash, and then burning their bridges by choosing the path of self-righteous outrage.
Her. Apparently, because of a pattern of behavior that included linking uncritically to AVFM. I have the suspicion that a significant portion of FtB’s commentariat would have similar reactions if some of the bloggers here decided to do the same thing.
Eamon Knight says
Having had a ringside seat for that debacle, I feel I should attempt to clarify matters, insofar as I can using only publicly available information (all of which can be found in Alex’s blog post).
Z@15: Her.
I assume that’s meant as a clarification of Alex’s gender status? Or a reference to the other party? (Who is also female).
Apparently, because of a pattern of behavior that included linking uncritically to AVFM.
There was a good deal more to it than that; the “door” remark was IMHO a comparatively trivial retort to a pattern of pretty serious personal provocation. Concerning which Alex had a good case for a complaint of her own — which she undermined with the “spite” FB post.
Z says
My bad. I misread a part of “to let the door hit her on her way out” as “him or her”. And somehow managed to keep that impression even after I copied the quote. The brain is a weird thing.
Ophelia Benson says
The more important reason Alex was booted from CFI was this bit:
Not surprising that the higher-ups didn’t want Alex around after that.