Well, gosh, threadketeers, this week we’ve learned that atheist chicks are easy and goth. Easy is, well, easy, but I had to look up how to be goth. Just in case, here’s the answer.
Oh, my…I already liked Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure. I’m almost there!
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Glen Davidson
20 July 2012 at 12:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Doesn’t burning a few IDiots at the stake count toward being Goth?
And even if I don’t, they’ll always yowl–or in Luskin’s case, squeak–bloody persecution when asked to provide any kind of evidence.
Glen Davidson
Francisco Bacopa
20 July 2012 at 12:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I had no idea that Joy Division’s manager was credited with coining the term “goth”.
JD is a great band. Look them up on youtube if you don’t know their music. Nothing like Peter Hook’s basslines and Ian Curtis’ brooding deep baritone.
ChasCPeterson
20 July 2012 at 12:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
no comment.
(Ceci n’est pas une comment.)
Gnumann, quisling of the MRA nation
20 July 2012 at 12:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I like the music, but the estetics are way too much work.
And PVC and leather becomes stinky in clubs.
F
20 July 2012 at 12:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Francisco Bacopa, I put my trust in you.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 12:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx, I now fully grok popcorn ratlets. Holeeeee shit, it’s *unbelievable*. I can’t stop laughing and boy, do I feel sorry for Esme.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 12:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Aww! Video?
(I’ve been sitting here quietly wishing I could house some of the ratlets (I’m particularly taken with the golden ones), but I’m moving soon and my mom has this whole fear of rats thing. She’s also afraid of sock monkeys and Ray Liotta, so… *shrug* what can you do.)
Pteryxx
20 July 2012 at 12:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine: hee! I was taught the term looong ago in animal research. (“Um, ‘popcorn’ is a technical term here?” “Yep, just like ‘pinkie’.” ) (Also, *never* drop a cage of 15-day-old ratlets/mouselets. Gravity will CEASE for them. Sproinnng!) ~;>
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
20 July 2012 at 1:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
Do they float like astronauts in space?
Pteryxx
20 July 2012 at 1:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not quite, but they go off like tiny rockets. I’ve startled a cage full of popcorns in my hands, and some of them sproinged so far they hit me in the face (and those were MICE).
Markita Lynda—damn climate change!
20 July 2012 at 1:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh @28 in previous thread: I hope you offered to take the guy and his wife out for a drive one day soon. Suggest a picnic — maybe they’ll bring half the food. You’ll probably hear all kinds of tales about Life with Car.
Beatrice
20 July 2012 at 1:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ooooh, so that’s what popcorn ratlets mean. I second Cipher : video!
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 1:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I missed this one: The 50 Cutest Things That Ever Happened.
Pteryxx
20 July 2012 at 1:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not a great video, and not Caine’s ratlets, but still:
17-day-old rat babies popcorning
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 1:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher:
We’re going to give it a try next week, no guarantees! :D P.S. I love sock munkehs. I have a red and white striped one.
Pteryxx, Magrat took a bad fall yesterday from doing a full court popcorn on me, she scared me half to death! Oh, and she fucking *bounced*. (Amazingly enough, she’s okay.) Next week, I’m going to pick up a pen for them to run around in, I can’t control them on my own without some sort of enclosure. Any sudden sound and *boom* popcorn ratlets going off all over the place! I’ve never seen anything like it.
David Marjanović
20 July 2012 at 1:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*wallows in hug pile*
*is completely out of words at such cruelty*
*passes the entire hug pile on*
Oh yes, if the doctor whose degree should be retracted is still alive, or if anyone who ever granted them a degree is still alive.
Seconded.
un commentaire.
…Later.
Will be interesting to see if my favorite is in the list.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
20 July 2012 at 1:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher:
You can’t really blame her for the Ray Liotta thing.
Last summer, he was filming a movie called Beyond the Pines in my town. While the other actors (Bradley Cooper and Eva Mendez, mostly) were seen out and about, the only place Ray Liotta went besides his hotel was this one Italian restuarant, by himself, and order the same dish night after night. Kind of creepy, but apparently he was a good tipper.
Pteryxx
20 July 2012 at 1:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine: about weaning age they calm down to a more reasonable ratlike level. Enjoy popcorning while it lasts!
carlie
20 July 2012 at 2:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I tried to watch Corrina Corrina once. Couldn’t do it. I just kept yelling “Run, little girl! Ruuuuuunn!!!” at the screen.
killyosaur
20 July 2012 at 2:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfzeegsMG2U
The song at the end is the best.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 2:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
Oh, I plan to, every moment I can grab! I have never in my life seen anything like it. I don’t even know how to begin to describe it, except that they go off like wild popcorn kernels, often for no fucking discernible reason whatsoever. Just the sheer excitement of being on the planet. :D It’s a truly joyful thing to watch.
I’m really jazzed I get to go through this with Rubin’s crew. I’ll be a bit better prepared this time. Popcorning is something of a shock when you don’t know its coming…
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 2:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The Colorado shooting took place in the theater nearest my best friend and his family. I can’t get a callback, text, email, or Facebook msg from him, his mom, or his boyfriend. All day. I don’t know what to do.
Beatrice
20 July 2012 at 2:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh,
I’m sorry if this is a stupid suggestion that you of course thought of already, but is there anyone who lives reasonably close who you could call to check on them?
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 2:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No, Beatrice, there isn’t that I know of. Trying to find his siblings and nieces and nephews online.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
20 July 2012 at 2:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jebus, Josh, that is horrid!
I hope your friend and his family are okay. I’m guessing that service in that area might be restricted? Maybe?
Beatrice
20 July 2012 at 2:57 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I hope you find them soon and that they are all safe.
Tethys
20 July 2012 at 3:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I am incensed over JAL’s slum lord. I have some experience in this area, and am trying to do some research on applicable laws.
If I remember correctly, she is in Arizona?
Can anyone confirm? JAL are you still here?
I am reading their laws on the issue, and it looks like this is a clear and serious breach of rental laws.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 3:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thank fuck. . .G just texted me. He’s in a work retreat today. Everyone is fine. He reminds me he and I went to the movies there last year when I was in town.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
20 July 2012 at 3:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh@28, glad to hear it; that was scary.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 3:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh, I’m glad your friends are alright.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 3:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh, I’m so happy to hear you found him.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 3:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Me too. I still feel like I’m gonna throw up, but it’s getting better.
Tethys
20 July 2012 at 3:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Happy to hear it Josh. Worrying is no fun at all.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 3:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good news Josh! Breathe
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 3:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just got off the phone with G’s mom. Says shooter attended college she works at as of last year.
Luckily no one we know was hurt (well, fucking unlucky as hell for so many people). The theater is literally across the street from G’s house, and given G likes to go to late movies it wasn’t a wild misplaced worry on my part.
Phew.
carlie
20 July 2012 at 3:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This is a much-needed balm for the week. It’s been up for awhile, so you may have seen it, but it’s an orchestra/choir flashmob in Spain. It’s beautiful.
Beatrice
20 July 2012 at 3:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
These flashmob videos always make me cry happy tears.
I’m such a crybaby.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 3:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“Ode to Joy” may be the most overplayed piece in classical music but it always makes me bawl. There’s some strange alchemy in that melody.
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 3:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This is my all time favorite baby rat youtube video.
It looks just like my favorite rat ever, Milo, who was similarly laid back.
chigau (女性)
20 July 2012 at 3:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beautiful!
Thank you carlie.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 4:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
It is what it says, an ode to joy. It evokes beauty, happiness, creativity, love, life, triumphant celebration. It makes us feel that we can be the rising ape meeting the fallen angel.
Humans can be achingly beautiful. I sorely needed to be reminded of that today, so thank you very much, Carlie.
Brownian
20 July 2012 at 4:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Glad to hear your friend is okay, Josh.
Sometimes I put on NetFlix, queue up Immortal Beloved to this scene, and just let it wash over me.
I’ve tried listening to it on the bus on my way to work, but that’s just embarrassing for all.
If I’m driving, late at night, I’ll put on something from Paul Simon’s Graceland or The Rhythm of the Saints, sing at the top of my lungs and intermittently sob with happiness.
Sometimes even music cannot substitute for tears. So I do both.
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 4:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
oh carlie, that’s just gorgeous. Love the kid on the lamppost!
Ing: Gerund of Death
20 July 2012 at 4:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
You see why I hate that self righteous little shit face Dixon? Morrison actually made it a rule that Batman cannot beat up on low level thugs or druggies or the stuff because of the class issues. He either has to just intervene in violent assault or focus on organized crime; otherwise it’s a rich man beating up the peasants.
Dixon glorifies Batman because of those issues. One of the many many many reasons I hate that shit guzzler.
That and he couldn’t not open his stupid fucking mouth to politicize it. He is a total shit head.
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan
20 July 2012 at 4:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Re: carlie’s post @ #36 – How anyone can dislike that video is beyond me. Wiping away tears as I type. I just wish I could’ve been there in person.
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Holy fucking Christ, Josh, I’m glad to hear your friend is OK. I can’t really imagine why anyone would do such a thing. One of the kids mentioned it, but it wasn’t until I read the thread that I learned the whole story. Fucking messed up.
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*goes back to previous thread, makes notes of all suggestions for getting rid of offending recliner*
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I wish I could just airlift a huge crate of everything you need right to your complex, JAL. And maybe drop a crate of whoop-ass on your manager’s front step. People like that make me wish I had fangs.
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Let’s just say that I had the strangest image when I saw “popcorning rats.” The reality isn’t just less strange, it’s also way cuter. Jeez, this is making me REALLy want a rat when my dog is too old to give a damn about chasing critters around anymore. I’d be afraid to let her around one at this point in her life, her still being peppy enough to try going after a skunk a second time (I swear she doesn’t remember what happened the first time she tried going toe-to-toe with one, the silly furball…)
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 4:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I don’t want to see it anymore.
cm's changeable moniker
20 July 2012 at 4:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I know this has come up before:
Coke vs Soda vs Pop (a geographical analysis)
Also: ‘rupt.
Markr1957
20 July 2012 at 4:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ Josh – so happy you heard your friend is safe.
@ carlie – thank you for the video link; it brought tears of joy to these old eyes. After all the shit going down in Colorado I was in need of something cheerful.
Oddly whenever I hear “Ode to Joy” I want to follow with this version of Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D Minor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgbgUrp1a70 and this version by ’80s Brit band Sky is my personal favorite.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
20 July 2012 at 4:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Fun fact: I have the Ninth symphony playing on iTunes right now.
Jebus, I love that set of music.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 4:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Markr1957:
♥ I adore that piece of music.
Markr1957
20 July 2012 at 4:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Brownian @ 42 – glad I’m not the only person in the world who does crazy things to Graceland – I put it on and try to keep up on my exercise bike. If I’m alone and driving I will sing (well sort of) along too – just belt it out at full volume as long as nobody can hear how bad I am :)
Markr1957
20 July 2012 at 4:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue – I just can’t (safely) play Toccata while driving – it makes me want to put my foot down and keep it there :o
David Marjanović
20 July 2012 at 5:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*phew*
Videos later.
carlie
20 July 2012 at 5:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I just realized I didn’t cite it – it was at Shakesville today.
I’ve watched it four times now.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
20 July 2012 at 5:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Fantasy author Nora K. Jemisin replies to some arse who thinks white male expertise is a given but everyone else who might appear on a convention panel is more likely just a “token.”
(I’ve thrown in paragraph breaks for better readability in a narrower column. See aforementioned arse’s comment for explanation of the numbering in the last paragraph.)
Sound familiar?
David Marjanović
20 July 2012 at 5:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
From the previous subthread:
I’m not sure if this works on the intended audience. To me, one of your first comments comes across as you completely losing your shit; it’s good that I knew beforehand that that was a wrong impression.
carlie
20 July 2012 at 5:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
DAH da DAAAAAAA!!!! Dadadadadaaaaah, daaaaaaaah.
Sometimes it’s nice to be reminded with a really good performance that the standard classics got that way because they’re so lovable.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 5:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Markr1957:
I know the feeling. I know it’s silly, but I always get this image in my head when I hear it.
carlie
20 July 2012 at 5:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I just adore the fact that, when confronted with an orchestra, the response of almost any child is to try to conduct it. :)
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
20 July 2012 at 5:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Same arse, and the struck-out text is my editorial comment:
More idiocy:
And when told off thoroughly by a subsequent commenter, who then tells him “Good day” because she doesn’t want to argue with a goalpost-shifter, he continues to JAQ off. How dare she question his intelligence and empathy ““?
There’s even more from him, but none of it’s worth copypasting.
On another note, Genevieve Valentine also mentions in her OP that she dealt with a persistent creeper at Readercon. A commenter who knows his name and googled on him found
And there are defenses of the creeper on her third page of comments, including the ever-popular Sigh.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
20 July 2012 at 5:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Makes no difference. What’s relevant is whether it’s possible to parse my meaning — which it evidently is.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 5:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What does this mean?
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
20 July 2012 at 5:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Janine, it’s LOLcat-speak mocking the sort of concern troll who asserts that an aggressive creeper might have Asperger’s and therefore be unable to process social cues.
ibelieveindog
20 July 2012 at 5:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Mark1957 said:
My mother had a pudgy Jack Russell terrier that I called my roly-poly little bat-faced girl.
I’m going to take a break from real life, which was oh-so-shitty for so many people today, and do the Snoopy dance to some Paul Simon.
Jadzia626
20 July 2012 at 5:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Janine
It’s a South Park reference. “Ass burgers” means asbergers.
mouthyb
20 July 2012 at 5:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This is what I tend to listen to when feeling down.
I’m up to posting 90 links to the roundup. Cipher, I apologize for the mass of editing which I’m sure you’re having to do.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
20 July 2012 at 5:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadzia, I didn’t know it was a South Park reference. I thought it was just an internet meme.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 5:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I fucking hate LOLspeak. Long before she became the hero of misogynistic creeps everywhere, I stopped ERV because I could not take LOL.
Damn, also I missed the Asperger’s/ bit. Nice way to deal with people who have real issues, compare them to creeps.
Jadzia626
20 July 2012 at 5:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Ms. Daisy Cutter
Probably is, and South Park picked it up. There’s an entire episode devoted to the topic.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 5:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My sister has a pit bull that I call Murderface.
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 5:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sigh, My 8-year-old took my ipod nano, Louise, without permission, and apparently lost it in the empty lot where the neighborhood kids go to play and build forts. I guess it’s just gone. Dammit, I loved that nano. Had a beautiful gelskin on it and everything.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 5:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thank fortune for my little popcorns, they’re keeping me sane and happy today. I wish I could say the same for Esme, she’s going wild trying to control them.
hotshoe
20 July 2012 at 5:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Classical music …
A different kind of “classic” music:
Mickey Hart Band playing classic Grateful Dead tunes (and better than the originals, by far) available for free legal download from the band’s website links here
Josh, Official SpokesGay
20 July 2012 at 5:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine, I can’t help but think of them as your Popplers. You could make a deal with Fishy Joe’s maybe.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 6:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Today my brother and I found a white damselfly behaving super weirdly and a wasp thing that was really really cute! (YES CUTE)
carlie
20 July 2012 at 6:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
dang, kristinc. Can the whole family go out and search for it? Might still be there somewhere. That’s so hard, to try and teach kids respect for people’s things without accidentally making them think that things are more important than they are. Good luck with what will be a tense evening.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 6:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, I wish you could see them. Popplers? But…they don’t have that crispy
coatingskin!Jadzia626
20 July 2012 at 6:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@kristinc
I had one of those. Still have it somewhere, but haven’t used it in 2 years. I hated that thing. It would never let me do anything and it doesn’t support all my audiobooks under linux.
First and last Apple product for me.
cm's changeable moniker
20 July 2012 at 6:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What? Where’s the ****ing fugue?!
Oh. Here it is. /pedant ;)
Nightjar
20 July 2012 at 6:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Did you take any photos? I love wasps.
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 6:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yeah, Misterc went out and scoured the lot for it, no dice. Tonight we plan to ask the neighborhood kids we know that often play there, and anyone my daughter may have visited with filched nano in tow. We’ll offer a reward. But I think probably whoever has it is going to keep their new free ipod.
I’m pretty heartsick about it, it was a holiday gift from Misterc about 3 years ago and about the only thing I wanted that year. The novelty of such a wee cute thing holding alllll my music just never wore off. Sniff.
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz)
20 July 2012 at 6:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So help me Spud, I laughed at Colbert’s lesbian joke.
Sorry.
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz)
20 July 2012 at 6:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I like the graphic versions of Bach & Co., but I really wish I understood music.
–o–
Apropos of nothing. I removed my keyboard, blew so air at it without any visible effect, and yet the intermittent shortcircuiting and the overheating has disappeared. I would be the least surprised if I actually drove out an evil spirit of sorts.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 6:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
An excuse to link to some Siouxsie And The Banshees.
Carcass
The Lord’s Prayer
Hybrid
Head Cut
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
20 July 2012 at 6:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
/looks into the “Monstrous” thread, headdesks
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz)
20 July 2012 at 6:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So You Want to Write a Fugue?.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 6:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*WTF?* *hears clucks and laughs in the backgroud*
It looks like the goth contingent of the Pullet Patrol™ made a picture to startle a poor old fat man.
*Shakes fist in general direction of the Pullet Palace™, hears more clucks and laughs*
skeptifem
20 July 2012 at 6:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
sooo romney is dark and obsessive, and leading a double life?
(I know what he meant, I just strongly disagree. I hate wealth-as-a-virtue batman. Aren’t we supposed to hate bruce wayne when he is acting like a dipshit in front of the press to cover his secret identity? ugh.)
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 6:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem, it depends on the actor. I am sure that Adam West is meant for this one.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 6:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
More Siouxsie.
Belladonna
Cannons
Trust In Me
Rhapsody
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 6:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Here are pictures! My favorite one is number 6, which shows the waspy thing being cute.
rowanvt
20 July 2012 at 6:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
>_> Anyone in the horde want a 6 week old chihuahua that is a weak parvo positive if she makes it?
We wanted to do the parvo test while she still belonged to her former owner. We were offering her a free first exam to help offset the cost of the cost of the test.
Her response, and I quote, “Well, I have the money but not for something like that.”
Immediate response from myself and the other morning tech: “Would you surrender her to us? It won’t cost you anything at all that way.”
So after this morning with one barely there positive, some SQ fluids + antibiotics + anti vomiting drugs later she’s bouncing around, sleeping, and generally complaining if she’s not being held.
And she’s living in my empty 10 gallon fishtank.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 6:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem, something I’d rather not say on the monstrous thread (because a lot of people in that thread don’t know my background):
I see a lot of people rushing the “insane” route in order to distance because they can’t handle the idea of a regular, average (or above) person (to all appearances) doing something so terrible and shocking. If they don’t do that, there’s this awful thought that given certain circumstances, they might do the same sort of thing and that’s a thought they’ll do anything to deny and avoid.
Most people deny having an inner monster, so to speak. I came to terms with my inner monster decades ago. I know I’m capable of monstrous acts. Most people, however, will go to any length to deny they could ever do X, no matter the circumstance, therefor, any person who does do X, regardless of circumstance, must be crazy.
ChasCPeterson
20 July 2012 at 6:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I suspect you know nothing, but thanks for the link!
cm's changeable moniker
20 July 2012 at 6:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This is the third-largest organ in Britain: I’ve sung in front of it.
When you stop, there’s a quarter-second pause, then the echo hits you on the return. Quite the experience.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 6:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cm:
Unholy cow, that is so fucking cool.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
20 July 2012 at 6:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
freaking adorable little critters
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 6:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine, I have to be honest, I do not understand that attitude. I know that I can harbor very dark and disturbing impulses. There are people that I would love to see in pain. It is hardly an idea that I share with others. This is because I try to hold myself to an ethical standard. But it does me no good to deny that it is there.
As it stands, I know that humans can commit great acts of kindness and generosity as well as vile acts. It is our history, our legacy and our future. This coming from nowhere except from ourselves. And I am always pissed off when good acts are attributed to a deity and when bad acts are attributed to demons. This is nothing less than to take away what choices that we humans can make, making everyday human actions in an other and somehow, supernatural.
Tethys
20 July 2012 at 6:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher
Excellent photos of the Ichneumon wasp. I have no idea which species it is. I love her orange legs.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 6:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh Jadehawk, I wish you were here and could see them! I swear, the cute is killing me.
skeptifem
20 July 2012 at 6:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That is a bit of a false dichotomy. People can have a hunch that a murderer is mentally ill (as a contributing factor) and also recognize that mental illness can happen to anyone. The question is more one of how justified people feel in heaping hatred on the accused.
The argument you are making makes sense if you think of mental illness as equivalent with “crazy” as a slang term, or only as something that features hallucinations or delusions, etc. I don’t think everyone who is speculating views the problem that way. It is curious to me that this debate is so offensive when speculating on the mental health of a person who committed suicide is not. The majority of people who have committed similar acts had mental health problems.
I think that most people know that people who act monsterously have something wrong with them. The debate is about what that something is (or could be), and to a lesser extent whose fault it is that something went wrong inside a person.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 6:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The silicon chip inside her head has switched to overload.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 6:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Janine:
I understand it. Most people want to, and do, consider themselves to be good, decent people. A good, decent person would never commit such an act. Or so they tell themselves. And in order to maintain that illusion, they other the “bad” person as a monster, as a crazed nutjob.
If I ever had the capacity to hold such illusions about myself, it was killed off at a very early age.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 6:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, Tethys! I liked the legs too. My mom said she was a Nightmare Before Christmas bug. Having looked through Bug Guide a little, I’m thinking Therion morio maybe? Does that seem right to you?
skeptifem
20 July 2012 at 7:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
on another note: I am getting hits to my blog from some thunderf00t place and also a phpbb called “slymepit”. lovely.
its more depressing than the search term results that send people my way, thats for sure.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 7:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not morio, looks like, but some kind of Therion.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem:
Well, that’s the thing – a lot of people, mass murderers in particular, don’t act monstrously at all until the day they walk into a restaurant, office, theater, whatever place and start shooting.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem:
Abbie had to stop hosting the slimepit at ERV due to a crackdown by NatGeo, so they moved digs to the phpbb Slyme Pit.
skeptifem
20 July 2012 at 7:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That doesn’t mean there wasn’t something wrong with them.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 7:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I guess I have too much of a grounding in history, I have too good of a grasp of the harm that “good, decent people” can do. And that I am an capable of it if I do not watch myself.
There is no supernatural entity protecting me nor tempting me. The job is mine, like it or not. I just wish that those people who like to delude themselves, saying that they could never do that would face reality.
But I will admit, it is rather harsh.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 7:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*turns on cam*
Alright ladies of the Pullet Patrol™, here’s some feed of the Redhead Eating a Popeye’s Chicken dinner.
*turns off cam*
*shows video of last Kninja Knitter™ practice lead by the Redhead*
Any questions Ladies of PP?
*silence from the Pullet Palace*
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 7:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
skeptifem:
Most people probably imagine that, but it’s a pointless thought since we all have something wrong with us.
(You don’t imagine anyone is perfect, do ya?)
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 7:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem, for what it is worth, you have my sympathy.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem:
No, it doesn’t. However, this is missing my point. The reason I’ve seen many people rush to other as “monster” / “insane” / “crazy”, etc., is that it’s a form of psychic defense. It’s a way to deny that circumstances could possibly see them doing such an act.
Janine:
Afuckingmen. I wish they would face reality too.
Sure it is, however, as you say, the responsibility is on us. You can’t take responsibility when you won’t face reality.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 7:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*don’t tell the PP, but I Photoshopped Pullet silhouettes over menz silhouettes on the targets. The Kninja Knitters™ are deadly no matter what the target*
skeptifem
20 July 2012 at 7:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
A lot of the women I’ve known, myself included, grew up with a sense of constantly being wrong and horrible, and having to do all kinds of shit to not feel like total monsters all the time. It is impossible to know how many are in the camp of feeling like they could *never* do something awful vs feeling like they are always doing something irreversibly terrible (unless these ideas are related to self esteem measures, which seem to vary based on how people are raised and social attitudes).
john morales
why would you imagine all the problems to be essentially equivalent, or less worth examining because you think the extent is the only thing that is varied? We are discussing if problems exist which lead specifically to mass murder. If such a thing exists it should be worth a lot of attention to try and understand it.
Fuck I feel like I am taking over this thread with this instead of leaving it in the monsterous thread. I don’t wanna hijack though I am enjoying the discussion.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nerd:
Now that’s just mean. You’re going to put those girls off their egg layin’. :D
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem:
Pffffffft, discuss away! There’s no topic to hijack here. At least a discussion sans trolls and idiots can be had.
skeptifem
20 July 2012 at 7:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“monster” puts all the responsibility on the shooter. “crazy” puts none of it on him. I don’t see those conclusions as equivalent.
It could be a form of psychic defense for some people, but it could also be genuine speculation into what causes people to behave that way.
I am starving and out the door to go eat somewhere. Thanks for the great discussion everyone.
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 7:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
skeptifem,
What makes you imagine I imagine that?
Well, yes. But perhaps with a little more specificity than just the claim that there is “something wrong with them” would be appropriate, since as I noted we all have something wrong with us.
Relax — you’re not. :)
(Endless, this thread is)
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
20 July 2012 at 7:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Stanley Milgram called. Or sent a telex or something.
Anyway he said bzzzzzt.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Skeptifem:
If you’re othering, they match up fine. “He’s a monster! He must be insane to do such a thing.” If you convince yourself of that, you’ve put the shooter at a safe distance from yourself, the “good, decent person who would never, ever do such a thing.”
Enjoy your dinner.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 7:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
There Will Come A Day-Steve Wynn
I love this song. (I know, I love lots of songs. I am very promiscuous.) I often think along the same lines. But I know that it cannot and should not happen.
But it is a damned good release.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ixchel:
:snortle:
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 7:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I can’t get in the way of that. Patricia would fire my sorry ass. So I toss out some extra grog soaked corn with a calcium/vitamin D supplement for the PP, which encourages egg production, then wear steel toed troll stomping boots and leather chaps under the tutu to protect from petulant pullets. ;)
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 7:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Crawling Misanthropic Blues
Here Come The Miracles is such a good album.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 7:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
:D
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
20 July 2012 at 7:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ew.
I’ve been getting links from TF’s new blog, too, but luckily been spared the slimepit-linkage so far
Caerie
20 July 2012 at 7:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Janine:
Indeed. There is nothing special about humanity that makes us incapable of obscene, irrational violence. To quote Tim Minchin, “We’re just fucking monkeys in shoes.”
There’s very little material difference between any random person in America right now and any random person who supported genocide throughout history. Cultural standards? Socialization? Sure. Sanity? Levels of rationality? Nope.
I was perfectly willing and ready to kill a man once. It was self-defense, but that really doesn’t matter: the capacity to turn off empathy and seek another person’s death is there. I justified it through self-defense; others have justified it because they’re following orders, because they view the people they’re killing as something less than or other than themselves. We can aspire to rise above violence and we should, but that doesn’t mean that those who don’t are “other” than the rest of us.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
20 July 2012 at 7:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
OTOH, my search-terms are largely some asshole obsessing about my “willy” and fantasizing about my death
Tethys
20 July 2012 at 7:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cipher
I think Therion is probably right. I wish bug-guide had a search by geographic region function.
This picture looks very similar except for the head.
Janine: Fucking Dyke Of Rage Mountain
20 July 2012 at 7:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadehawk, eewwwwwww!
Must be nice to know that someone is open about wanting you dead.
Oh, wait. This is the internet. Nothing at all to worry about.
'Tis Himself
20 July 2012 at 7:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
One of the best renditions of Cyril Tawney’s “Grey Funnel Line” is that of Cyril’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ZoEB494Y4
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 7:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Any fashionistas here?
I have my eye on two fabrics that I could use to make a dress with a sheer yoke, somewhat similar to this effect.
What I’m wondering is, what do you do for a bra under it? Does it need a strapless, or just a bra in a coordinating fabric with straps that aren’t too utilitarian?
I had a dress in mind that I could throw on for class or whatever, so a strapless bra seems a bit overkill, and going braless is not an option for me (and a camisole is a) too warm under a spring/summer dress and b) not enough support anyway).
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 7:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I wonder if I could use my opaque dress fabric to make decorative “straps” under the sheer layer, placed to cover bra straps? I wonder if that would split my chest-shoulders up and make me look more wide shouldered though. Hm.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadehawk:
Really? He went and got himself a shiny new blog to blather in? Tsk.
Jesus.
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz)
20 July 2012 at 7:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I was puzzled by the spelling “womyn” that’s come up occasionally – only yesterday did it strike me that that it’s a deliberate attempt to expunge “man”.
I feel stupid.
And I really, really wish we could bring back “werman” for the male of the species, but I do realise that train has long since sailed.
Odd that I’m so annoyed by neologisms, while trying to be a descriptivist. I guess my roots are showing.
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan
20 July 2012 at 7:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Damn you Josh, now I have this stuck in my head!
Pteryxx
20 July 2012 at 7:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This. I failed to fight back sufficiently in self-defense when my partner almost killed me; afterwards, I mentally prepared myself to kill if it ever happened again. I never had to learn if I actually could; fortunately, I suppose. But it’s not some mysterious inborn quality that someone either has or doesn’t.
Tethys
20 July 2012 at 7:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
kristinc
Bra with clear plastic straps?
Or you could line the sheer with an opaque flesh tone fabric if you have the sewing skills. Those fabrics are tricky to work.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 7:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
No, it isn’t. After my rape and the attempt to murder me, first thing I did after I got out of the hospital and could actually move again, was to contact gang members I knew who could put me in touch with someone who could teach me to fight – dirty.
I trained like hell. I haven’t been out without a weapon in 40 years. My weapons aren’t obvious though and it would be unlikely they would be found or taken off of me. If I was attacked again, I’d kill. In a heartbeat, given the opportunity.
Tethys
20 July 2012 at 8:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadehawk
Oh…ewww, yuck, gross,creepy, eww, eww, ewww!
I suppose we could turn it into a meme.
Death-willy creepers?
Ing: Gerund of Death
20 July 2012 at 8:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yes we are. It’s the cover.
BB especially went to effort to humanize Bruce away from the hyper rich. His father is shown to be a Doctor and works in a hospital despite wealth out of altruism. His family had a strong sense of social justice and trying to solve crime via economic revitalization. He spends the first part of his journey homeless and poor, having to steal himself and learning first hand the economic causes of crime and violence and in the end rejects the rather draconian vengeance view of justice that criminality is to be punished and exterminated. The Gotham of Nolan’s movies is shown to be one where crime flourishes due to the apathy and exploitation of the wealthy. It’s corporate and criminal greed and callousness that Ras Al Ghoul exploits to destroy the city, (The mafia’s control and Wayne Tech’s irresponsible business practices and war profiteering).
It’s why a lot of modern writers want to go out of their way to show Wayne using his money to help people in both persona. Dini in both the comic and BTAS showed Bruce as taking an active interest in reforming Arkham and in trying to actually rehabilitate the people he imprisons. One episode of BTAS was entirely around this. The first Robin left after a situation where Batman captured a petty criminal who was acting out of desperation for his family, which Robin saw as heartless. He later learned that after Batman captured him Bruce Wayne gave the man a job.
The simplistic Good/evil, criminal/citizen, mooch/galt is why I think conservative writers will have a fundamental problem with proper characterization and motivation.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 8:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just a little note for those who are not aware of what the disabled can go through in a day
I got home before 11:00 am (had a working lunch with the department at work afterwards), and got the Redhead “dewatered”, and made her lunch, and packed the lunch in a cooler for her to get at her convenience, along with auxiliary materials. Then, about 12:45 pm, she tries to get out to eat said lunch. In backing up, gets entangled in extraneous footwear (been trying various footwear for the night “dewaterings”), and got she a wheel chair handle caught on the corner the portable shelves, which threatened to dump a microwave oven. That made her stuck without phone (and I’m unavailable due to the departmental luncheon) for about 2 hours, until I came home about 1:50 pm to rescue her.
Doesn’t seem like much, be she was unable to control her environment for a couple of hours. Very frustrating.
Ing: Gerund of Death
20 July 2012 at 8:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
QFT
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
20 July 2012 at 8:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh ouch.
Nerd, hope pullets go well.
Kristin, sorry, never understood fashion.
Caine, ptxx, yes. It’s easy to say “It’s not me who can do this”. We all are capable of killing, we just need an excuse for it.
Akira MacKenzie
20 July 2012 at 8:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry, I can’t read or hear the word “Pullet” without thinking of this:
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 8:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
blockquote>Or you could line the sheer with an opaque flesh tone fabric if you have the sewing skills. Those fabrics are tricky to work.
Hm, might be the most workable solution. Since the sheer swiss dot I have in mind is very thin, it probably wouldn’t be too difficult to just double it up with a suitable lining and sew as if it were one layer (with French seams and bias binding).
I suspect the hardest thing about this plan would be finding the right shade of “flesh” lining, since I am pale and yellowy.
Maybe finding a fabric that matches the background of my dress print would be a better bet.
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 8:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nerd, very frustrating. I feel for you both.
(At least she’s home!)
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
20 July 2012 at 8:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ohfer … I don’t even have a clue how I managed to produce that mess.
sorry.
Hm, might be the most workable solution. Since the sheer swiss dot I have in mind is very thin, it probably wouldn’t be too difficult to just double it up with a suitable lining and sew as if it were one layer (with French seams and bias binding).
I suspect the hardest thing about this plan would be finding the right shade of “flesh” lining, since I am pale and yellowy.
Maybe finding a fabric that matches the background of my dress print would be a better bet.
Caine, avec prémédité méchante langue
20 July 2012 at 8:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nerd, yikes. I’m glad the Redhead was okay, but how very frustrating it must be for her and worrying for you.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 8:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Definitely, but it does put emphasis on the need for a “radio phone holster” for her handset, so it can move with her as she moves. And the idea of cell phones still makes my knees itchy with her ‘tude’.
Antiochus Epiphanes
20 July 2012 at 8:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nerd:
*shoulder chuck*
FossilFishy (Νεοπτόλεμος's spellchecker)
20 July 2012 at 8:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah PZ, first cyberpunk and now goth, are you trying to drown me in nostalgia?
Mind you, despite owning Bauhaus’ “Bella Legosi’s Dead” on blue vinyl I wasn’t really a goth. Never bothered to dye my hair for instance.
When I think of goth and the catharsis of surrendering to the knowledge that everything and everyone we love will end I think of Anne Clark’s “Our Darkness” and that particular version too. That unrelenting, hard edged rhythm spoke to my experience of urban angst, the lyrics mirrored the voice of my depression. “Doubting all the time/ Fearing all the time/ That like these urban nightmares, we’ll blacken each other’s skies.” And at that point I’d lose my shit completely. I’m the sort of person from whom nicknames slide off into an embarrassing puddle at the feet of the giver. Good thing too, ’cause after seeing me explode into a whirling blur of gawky elbows and knees during the demented sax solo in that song, one friend tried to saddle me with Moulinex.
ImaginesABeach
20 July 2012 at 8:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nerd, people make jokes about “i’ve fallen and i can’t get up” but those systems are not expensive and can be set up to call you and can make a huge difference in the ability of people to be safe at home.
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 8:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
FWIW, my mom is physically debilitated, and wears a cellphone as if it were a necklace; it’s pre-programmed with various emergency numbers. She has actually employed it once, successfully.
(They’re really small these days)
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
20 July 2012 at 9:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The Redhead puts those systems in the same category as a cell phone. Almost over her dead body. My father has one (rings the senior facility he lives in first), so I know they can be useful, as he has fallen a couple of times in the last year.
left0ver1under
20 July 2012 at 10:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
One of the most common misconceptions about goths is a preoccupation and desire for suicide and self harm. A few years ago, the British Medical Journal published a study on goths and suicide attempts.
http://www.bmj.com/content/332/7549/1058
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Parenting/3098
* – Robert Young, a research associate at the University of Glasgow
Just look at gay people, kids who are bullied, or any other group. When they find a sense of community, acceptance and equality, they tend to be happier as well. Inclusion leads to good mental health, isolation damages it.
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 10:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The Ostrogoths were crude, but the Visigoths just craved culture.
Pteryxx
20 July 2012 at 10:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
For y’all’s entertainment: fractally wrong science from some dude selling a book.
http://www.thefinaltheory.com/scienceflaws.html
Endless fun for science SIWOTI! (Note: Not literally endless.)
cicely
20 July 2012 at 11:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Minorly Threadrupt.
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*hugs* for Josh; I’m glad your friend is okay. Scariness.
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kristinc that’s very pretty top. Maybe something black with satiny spaghetti straps?
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I read that as “wereman”. Intriguing D&D possibilities….
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This here, what Caine said.
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Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
20 July 2012 at 11:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
yes, that’s where it comes from.
ibyea
20 July 2012 at 11:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Pteryxx
That whole thing is just a major WTF for me. He/she must have skipped the class in which Newton’s second law was taught.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 11:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, that was wretched.
The MarkWatches blog has run into Spuffy disaster. Caution: Mark and his mods are doing their best, but there is all kinds of fucked up bullshit in that comments section. I read every single goddamn comment. On the bright side, it’s nice to be reminded that it’s not just FTB – other sites put up with the same tired, sickening bullshit. On the other hand, it’s horrible to be reminded that it’s not just FTB…
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 11:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely,
You’re behind the curve: wolfwere.
John Morales
20 July 2012 at 11:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher, “Spuffy”.
Wow, that’s a nice one!
(Without loking Spike + Buffy, right?)
–
Yeah, my wife and I were amused at that (rather kinky) relationship.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 11:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yeah, that :)
Ing: Gerund of Death
20 July 2012 at 11:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Fucking magnets how do they work?
cicely
20 July 2012 at 11:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
John Morales,
You are wrong! I am familiar with (well, not familiar familiar, if you know what I mean, *winkwink*) the wolfwere and the the jackalwere, and more informally with the hyenawere. The track my mind went on was:
1) A quasi-lycanthropic disease in which a woman, at the full moon, transforms into a man.
2) Likewise, but in which some demi-human involuntarily transforms into a human, with relevant changes to racial stats and abilities.
3) Both of the above, at the same time! Wheeeee!
Neener!
:)
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John Morales
20 July 2012 at 11:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely, fair enough.
I was wrong.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
20 July 2012 at 11:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
how ’bout the reverse? and with water instead of full moons? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranma_%C2%BD
;-)
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 11:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It’s like, here’s an interesting, squicky, emotionally complex plotline dealing with abuse and consent and self-destruction. And here are a group of feminists with varying degrees of life experience in the matter, eager to think about it and talk about it and try to get at its complexities. Here are a group of clueless people who need Feminism 101, and who are just baffled at everything that’s going on. And over here are a group of assholes who feel entitled to shit all over that discussion with victim-blaming, attempts to use other people’s abuse experiences to invalidate their point, and rape threats, creating such a horrifying clusterfuck that nobody else is able to feel safe to discuss anything at all.
Awesome.
cicely
20 July 2012 at 11:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m pretty much blind to the anime/manga end of the spectrum.
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Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
20 July 2012 at 11:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry about the ranting. It’s off to bed with me!
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
21 July 2012 at 12:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Argh, does anyone else’s immune system take a hit when the outdoor temperature swings wildly? I was already vulnerable because of sleep deprivation and three separate but minor bouts of heat exhaustion in the past week. But then my metabolism started to get used to the weather. When the temperature resettled in the 70s Fahrenheit during the day (with low humidity) and began to drop into the 50s F at night, I began to shiver… and yesterday I woke up with the sore throat that’s been going around, and I spent at least half the day sleeping.
I’m up right now because I crashed out at 7 p.m. I am going to feed the cat, then go back to sleep.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
21 July 2012 at 12:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
btw, does anyone know if there’s a time-limit on how late after a tooth-extraction one can still get an implant?
cuz I think I’d like to try to save up for one…
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
21 July 2012 at 1:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
OK, I lied, I made something to eat and I’m going to bed in a few.
What the fuck. I’ll admit to lol’ing at the commenter who wrote, “God I hope the Mayans were right.”
Tethys
21 July 2012 at 1:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
There is no time limit. I’ve done full mouth reconstructions on people after they’ve worn dentures for years.*
The limiting factors are bone density, metals bio-compatibility, and money.
I would recommend getting something to maintain the space.
Talk to your dentist about the various options. Sadly, a temporary solution will still be expensive. It may be more cost effective in the long term to work out a payment plan and go for the implant and crown asap.
*I am a dental ceramist, though I don’t work in the field anymore.
Dhorvath, OM
21 July 2012 at 1:56 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadehawk, I don’t know, but my dentist assured me on last pull that I had time to work towards that solution.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
21 July 2012 at 2:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
there’s no such thing as “my dentist”. the dentist I went to for the extraction was only able to squeeze me in on a “acute pain management” exception to their “no new patients” rule. And in any case, this being the poor people’s dentist, they don’t do bridges and implants. IOW, I can’t get a place-holder.
Dhorvath, OM
21 July 2012 at 2:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadehawk, the term”My dentist” refers to the dentist who pulled my molar, not a regular person who I visit.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
21 July 2012 at 2:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glad to know that there aren’t any inherent time-limits. still, I’m worried that the teeth are going to start doing weird shit to close the gap before I have enough & before I figure out where I could get the implant done, anyway. So, still wondering how much time I’d realistically have until the gap starts causing that kind of problems?
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
21 July 2012 at 2:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
er. Dhorvath, I was quoting Thethys, you’ve noticed that, right?
Dhorvath, OM
21 July 2012 at 2:43 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yes, but I used the same term so I thought clarification appropriate.
Jadehawk, mec fâché en jupe
21 July 2012 at 3:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ah, ok. well, in my case the guy who pulled the tooth can’t advise me on anything unless I’m in excruciating pain. because I’m not actually one of their patients and they’re not accepting new ones.
*sigh*
I want go go back home to civilization *homesick*
Tethys
21 July 2012 at 4:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadehawk
I wish here would go back to being civilized.
Tooth movement is highly individual. Lateral movement with-in the jaw happens continually. Hyper-eruption of the opposing tooth is what you want to prevent. It depends on which tooth too. Anterior teeth (canine to canine) are more prone to it than posteriors.
You can also have a single prosthetic tooth with clasps made.
They can be cemented into place with little to no preparation to the adjacent teeth. Done properly, it would get you by until you can get back home.
All the best tools and porcelains come from Germany anyway.
Nightjar
21 July 2012 at 5:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That’s possibly the funniest thing I’ve read all week. Too bad it was apparently not meant to be funny.
And thermodynamics.
***
*carefully touches with tongue the place where a wisdom tooth used to be before Monday, switches to the one whose extraction got scheduled for October*
*is sympathetic*
carlie
21 July 2012 at 7:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*sigh*
Cat’s chasing a mouse around again. I hope it’s the same one. She was after it last night for awhile, caught it TWICE, and it got away both times. She appears to be hunting it again. She’s good with reflexes and following in the open, but once it goes under something, it’s like “whoa, where’d it go?” and she loses all ability to track it.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
21 July 2012 at 7:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Having read some of Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States, I question whether “here” was ever “civilized.”
Anyway, because I have TWS, I surf over to DailyKos, and what do I find but a diary by an atheist married to a U/U’er. He’s trying to convince himself that “
Great first comment:
On the other hand, I did find this over at dK:
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 7:26 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Threadrupt!
Saw The Dark Knight Rises last night. Please tell me that someone else has so I can rot13 the hell out of this shit.
Jadzia626
21 July 2012 at 8:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@kristinc
O,o nice. I love that look.
And strapless, I find, isn’t very comfortable anyway …
Thin black straps? Or nude or transparent?
dexitroboper
21 July 2012 at 8:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
#Sinfestbullies
randay
21 July 2012 at 8:51 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Don’t you watch the tv series NCIS? One of the chief characters is Abby, a Goth forensic scientist and computer expert. I’ve heard that she is the most popular in the show.
Vilém Saptar
21 July 2012 at 9:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi TET!
Off the top of my head,
commiserations to JAL and mouthyb about your situations. Hope things get better soon.
Good to hear no friends of Josh, or anyone else, were hurt in y’day’s shooting. But sorry about those who were.
Going to catch up now…
Vilém Saptar
21 July 2012 at 9:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And also commiserations to Jadehawk on the tooth extraction and crutches…
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 9:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Audley! I saw it Thursday night.
Shall we squee?
*squees*
rowanvt
21 July 2012 at 9:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It looks like the chance a fellow tech and I took on the 6 week old parvo puppy is going to pay off. There’s been no vomiting since yesterday morning and no diarrhea. A single day of medications and she’s up and bouncing and playing and demanding more food than I’m allowing her.
It’s so nice to have one of these guys actually make it on conservative care but sucky we have to see parvo pups this young at all.
Stupid owners. -_-
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 9:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth:
1) Super jealous that you saw a midnight showing– Mr Darkheart couldn’t take Friday off, so we had to push our plans back a day.
:(
2) SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
3) I’m already planning to see it again. :p
Jadzia626
21 July 2012 at 9:37 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Watching Carl Sagan’s Cosmos!
Good stuff :)
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 9:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley:
I’m going to go see it again tomorrow.
Vs gur zhfuebbz pybhq bs gur ahpyrne rkcybfvba vf gung ivfvoyr, naq gur jvaq jnf oybjvat vaynaq, gura Tbgunz vf tbvat gb unir n UHTR snyybhg vffhr.
Ohg gura, gurl qvq qb n ybg bs svffvba/shfvba unaqjnivat.
Qvq lbh frr gur Ebova eriryngvba pbzvat?
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 9:49 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Секој пат кога ќе го видам гниење тринаесет кодирање морам да се борат со потребата да се отстрани моите очила и избришете ги со мека крпа.
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 9:57 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And this definitely comes under the heading of “You Can’t Make This Shit Up!”
I wonder if xe is a researcher? or trying to get laaaaaaid? or a wildlife photographer? or trying to set the goats on fire?
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 9:57 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth:
I wish I could, but almost all of the theaters around here are sold out for this weekend. It was a stroke of luck that I was able to get tickets for a showing last night.
I’ll wait until next weekend to see it again, I think.
Snyybhg? Cssg. Gung’f ybat grez rssrpgf– jub pnerf nobhg yrhxrzvn naq ovegu qrsrpgf?
Fcrnxvat bs gur ceboyrzf jvgu gur “ngbz obzo”, ubj va gur uryy qvq Gur Ong fheivir jryy rabhtu sbe Yhpvhf Sbk gb gel gb svk gur nhgbcvybg? (Vg vf cbffvoyr V zvffrq fbzrguvat ‘pbf gur wnpxnff grrantref shegure qbja gur ebj xrcg trggvat hc naq jnyxvat va sebag bs hf sbe ab tbqqnzarq ernfba, evtug hc hagvy gur raq bs gur zbivr.)
V unq fcrphyngrq gung Wbfrcu Tbeqba-Yrivgg jnf tbvat gb or chfurq va gur Avtugjvat qverpgvba, fb xvaq bs? V thrff? V qb yvxr gung Puevfgbcure Abyna unq fnvq gung ur jnf arire tbvat gb unir Ebova nf n punenpgre naq gura farnxrq gung va. :)
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 9:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Извините! Гниль тринадцать кодирования, однако, лучший способ не испортить шоу.
*очищает очки.*
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 10:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley:
Gur Ong jnf qrcvpgrq nf uvqvat ba n ebbs jvgu n pnzb pbire bire vg. N engure IVFVOYR pnzb pbire ng gung.
Ohg V thrff vg jbhyq gnxr fbzrbar sylvat bire gb frr vg?
V jnf nyfb zber guna n yvggyr fxrrirq bhg ol gur vzcyvpngvba gung bapr Onar rg ny jrer qrsrngrq, gura ubbenl Tbgunz jbhyq or bxnl ntnva. Zzuzz. EVTUGB.
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 10:03 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Македонски, а не руски јазик. Слични, иако, јас ви даде тоа.
Јас разбирам таа цел. Мојот ум, мали и бескорисни како што е, само оди чудни места со неа. Гледам она што изгледа како мафијаш тип мојата прва реакција е да се мисли дека има нешто во ред со моето око носат.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
E,
Jryy, gur one jnf frg njshyyl ybj, rira vs gur zbo ceboyrz unq orra pyrnarq hc. Tbgunz vf xvaq bs n cvg, vf jung V’z fnlva’.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
21 July 2012 at 10:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dexitroboper, that’s an awful lot of BAAAAAAWWWWW in those comments, and there are only 11 comments at this writing.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also: Audley’s patented One Sentence Movie Review™ (no spoilers!).
The Dark Knight Rises was better than Batman Begins, but not as good as The Dark Knight and was a satisfying end to the trilogy.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 10:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oggie:
Фер доволно. Сето тоа е кирилица!
И јас лесно ќе признаам дека јас сум користење на софтвер за превод на интернет.
Audley:
Gehr rabhtu. Fgvyy. Gur bpphcngvba crevbq (rvtugl-fbzr qnlf?) jnf fubja nf onfvpnyyl erzbivat nyy gur evpu naq cbjreshy. Bxnl. Fb…?
V nyfb jnf n ovg fxrcgvpny gung gur pbcf haqretebhaq jbhyq or svar. Naq fgvyy funira! Naq abg univat sebmra!
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 10:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth:
Сум јас така.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
E,
Jvyyvat fhfcrafvba bs qvforyvrs, zl qrne.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 10:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oggie:
Јас се судрат вашата тупаница со рудникот.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 10:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley:
Onu. *qvfzvffvir trfgher* Gurer vf jvyyvat fhfcrafvba bs qvforyvrs, naq gurer vf BZTJGSOOD.
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 10:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ах. Првите се судрат социјалистички! Ние злото се!
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 10:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
[meta]
Someone who is unfamiliar with this place could be quite confuzzled by now.
[/meta]
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
E,
Ha! Granted.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
For shits and giggles:
Bane Capital’s Twitter feed
Owen
21 July 2012 at 10:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Google translate understands Macedonian – thank goodness – but I was rather hoping it would also grok rot-13. Sadly, it thinks it’s Icelandic…
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 10:47 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ó. Fjandinn. Íslensku? Jæja, get ég séð það. Íslenska hefur hellingur og hellingur af auka undarlegt greinarmerki og bréf áhrifahnappalista.
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 10:53 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Google translate has gotten a shitload better since last I used it.
All your private/public message are MINE.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 11:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Maybe, but, keep in mind that it’s going to work best when the author already used Google Translate to convert their words from English.
Setár, self-appointed Elf-Sheriff of the FreethoughtBlogs Star Chamber
21 July 2012 at 11:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Did I ever mention that Amanda Marcotte is fucking awesome?
Or a hypothetical blog community like the Slimepit…
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 11:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I love the idea that Icelandic is really just rot13.
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 11:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I needed to translate some Portuguese this week, and google did a fair enough job. At least the translation made sense in the context in which the document was to be used.
chigau (女性)
21 July 2012 at 11:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
あなたたちは、これはTZTだと思いますか？
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 11:18 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh. Also, I have been working on a research proposal with a Brazilian collab, and I find that his translation of my own words back translates in Google more-or-less acceptably. Maybe it’s just Portuguese. I want to know more about how that works, anyhoo. I remember a few years ago working on some German docs, in which my own shitty German seemed to be better than Google’s. Not so just recently.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 11:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
chigau, これは、政治局の侵入です。 あなたのカレンダーを確認してください。
julietdefarge
21 July 2012 at 11:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What, no cape?
Anyway, don’t forget to learn to dance like Zoe Jakes or Rachel Brice. On YouTube, of course.
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 11:26 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Heh, Chigau. I don’t know who it is a TZT!
F’ing Google translate!
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 11:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, still thinking about Te Dark Knight Rises:
Ubj njrfbzr jnf vg gung Gubznf Yraaba unq n fznyy cneg? V ♥ Yg. Qnatyr.
chigau (女性)
21 July 2012 at 11:46 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ॐ
カレンダー？
何のカレンダー？
なぜ私は知らされませんでしたか？
(I wish I could get past です/〜ます in Japanese)
—
Antiochus Epiphanes
I didn’t use google translate for
あなたたちは、これはTZTだと思いますか？
just my own limited ability
I’m right and google translate is wrong.
and that’s the truth.
so there.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 11:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah, so The Dark Knight Rises is worth watching. Good to know, I was planning it as a birthday treat in a couple of weeks.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 11:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice:
Holy shit, yes. The biggest argument that Mr Darkheart and I have had so far is whether or not it’s the best of the series (I say no, he disagrees because he likes that it’s pretty much an epic).
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 12:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Okay…Gytha, Magrat, Amelia, Agnes, Giles, Oliver, Chester, Theo, Vasco, Basil & Cole. I think. Subject to change on having teh sexing verified.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 12:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jesus tapdancing Christ!
On the one hand, I’m glad to see the woman-hating blather of right-wing Christians get smacked down in Christo-speak. On the other, I really wish the author of the blogpost could see that these nutjobs hate her, think she is not a person, and see the blatant woman-hating of the Bible as a feature, not a bug.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 12:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, and TRIGGER WARNING on that link! Wow.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 12:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley,
Great, I’m already looking forward to it.
—-
Caine,
Heh, I’ve just started reading Witches Abroad.
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 12:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Chigau: I didn’t mean to imply that you used translate, but that I did. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
In reality, you* represent some form of higher and quite alien intelligence to me. I understand too little of your commentary given the level of entertainment that it affords me. Which is to say that I don’t always get it, but I want to.
I would not impugn you thus.
*theophontes, too. And some others.
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 12:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And so, it’s off to the HomeDepot for me. I need to figure this drywalling thing out.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 12:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice:
One of my favourites, I’ve read it more than once. I don’t think anyone will end up saddled with Lillith or Lily, but you never know. :D
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 12:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
AE:
Drywall is easy. We’re going to be doing a bunch of drywall replacement downstairs next week.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
21 July 2012 at 12:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Setár:
You mean, when she’s not appropriating the work of women of color, publishing books with racist illustrations, defending Hugo Schwyzer, policing what women wear around their own houses, or whining about hipsters being oppressed?
Brilliant woman. Talented writer. Highly blinkered and solipsistic human being with a shit-ton of privilege she’ll never examine.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 12:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
chigau, 知りません。私は1つを持っていないので、私は、あなたがカレンダーを持っていたと仮定。私はあなたが私よりも上位ランクと思いました。
chigau (女性)
21 July 2012 at 12:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Antiochus Epiphanes
no worries :)
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 12:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Heh. Weren’t you just praising Tim Wise the other day?
Goddamn you’re such a fucking liar, Daisy.
chigau (女性)
21 July 2012 at 12:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ॐ
私はtheophontesさんを責めます。
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 12:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine: Hardibacker or DensShield for a shower enclosure*? I am stymied. Also, some people like green board for bathrooms, and some people don’t.
*I think cement board is too heavy since I’m doing this alone.
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 12:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Can I briefly express confusion over a 32 oz steak?
Oh, and it costs $46. Comes with a side of market veggies.
Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being
21 July 2012 at 12:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
/rolls eyes
Commencing on another coke bender, are we, Strange Git? (Yeah, cue cries of “ableism” now. It’s not OK to trigger poor SGBM but it’s OK for him to trigger other people.) Because I’m betting that’s why you can suppress your assholery for only a few weeks before you start policing other people’s comments like the wannabe Red Army soldier you are.
Into my killfile with you, fuckstain. I have better things to do than engage with you.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 12:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This is actually another great example of your dishonesty.
When have I ever complained in any way about people commenting on my drug use?
Never.
(For the record, the answer to your question is no.)
Please. I never suppress it. You only notice when it’s aimed at you and your friends.
Haha. What?
Am I triggering you by calling you a liar?
You have a particular habit of observing people complaining about something that bothers them —
and yes, it’s obvious that hipster hatin’ bothers Marcotte, and yes, I think it’s as comical as you do
— but you lie by claiming that they’re calling it oppression.
chigau (女性)
21 July 2012 at 12:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ॐ
Please don’t do that here.
Remember what happened last time.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 12:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
AE:
Ohhhh, a shower enclosure! Those can be tricky. DensShield needs to have every seam and every penetration (nail holes, etc.) seriously sealed or you’re looking at failure. I’d go with Hardibacker, however the debate between those two goes on and on forever…
Do a search using the bit I quoted (minus the asterisk) and you’ll come across many a forum debate between the two. Helpful, eh?
Esteleth, Who Knows How to Use Google
21 July 2012 at 12:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*pretends she has any idea what Caine is talking about*
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 1:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What even?
…
What is even going on?
—
*coughs*
Soooo… I’m sitting here trying my best not to charge into the nightmare that is Mark’s comment section with my gas mask, sniny fangs, and polka-dot spiked waders. Trying to stick to messages of support for the people who are doing good work in there and getting a load of shit for it. As I was telling my friend, he and his mods are getting a bunch of shit for being “mean” for stuff as tame as telling people to fuck off and stop talking, so I wouldn’t be super helpful.
—
My mommy might make delicious mint brownies today!
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 1:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Esteleth, the ever so fascinating subject of drywall! Are you exited yet?
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 1:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The rules ain’t “no calling somebody a fucking liar on TET.”
But, whatever.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 1:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Or excited, even. I think I needs more tea…
Ixchel, rather than yelling “liar!” anytime someone writes something you disagree with, you could go the somewhat more tedious route of explaining your disagreement first, rather than after the “liar!”. Just a thought.
Patricia, OM
21 July 2012 at 1:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I just wasted $6.50 to see Ice Age. Has anyone seen the latest Spiderman?
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 1:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ms. Daisy Cutter,
WMDKitty has responded on that circumcision thread, if you’re still interested in knocking some sense into her thick head.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/07/simply-strange-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-227085
I posted a comment, but it doesn’t appear. I tried posting it again, but I got a notification that it’s a duplicate.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 1:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
When it’s complex, yes, that’s a good idea.
But if someone says “X said Y” and someone else responds “liar” then the meaning is obvious: “it is a lie that ‘X said Y’”.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 1:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m puzzled by the existence of the latest Spiderman. Didn’t people really like the other ones? They were just five years ago! Why do we need a new one?
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 1:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What I left for WMDKitty over at Ophelia’s (after I got my violent fantasies under control):
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 1:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Very restrained, Josh. I likes it.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 1:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
You really don’t want to know what I’d like to do. I’m actually glad I’m not having this conversation in person because. . . whoo boy. Not good.
PZ Myers
21 July 2012 at 2:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ixchel and Daisy Cutter: confine your rending of each other to TZT. Not here, any more.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 2:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher:
Re: The Amazing Spider-man-
The studio wasn’t happy with the performance of the third movie and wanted another. I suspect they wanted a new take on the series and simply agreed to a reboot though it wasn’t billed as such in the lead up to the new movie. I also think they realized Kirsten Dunst and Tobey Maguire were getting too old to play the lead characters.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 2:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Anyone know how to make the cheesy goodness sauce that rests atop enchiladas? I have some ground chicken and garlic/herb tortillas wraps (made a delicious pizza with that last night) and want to try that out.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 2:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
I know, I know. We’ve had other idiots here who have used the “personal preference sexually” excuse and of all the stupid, infuriating excuses, that one bothers me the most. Leaving aside the fact that no one should ever make a body changing decision for someone else, so what if you prefer circumcised sexually? You planning on living forever and fucking every single male ever born, including those related to you? Huh?
It’s very hard for me to believe anyone could bring that up as a legitimate argument.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 2:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony, a good “find this!” source for food is epicurious.com.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 2:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Patricia:
I was prepared to dislike the Spiderman movie bc I liked the Sam Raimi ones. It turned out that I quite liked it. I even saw it in 3D which is a rarity for me as I detest the money grubbing exercise of ‘throw objects at the audience and inflate the ticket prices’.
The film has a darker tone to it but does capture more of the science background of Peter parker quite well.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 2:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
caine: Oooh thank you.
Jadzia626
21 July 2012 at 2:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Josh
Ah, the “chopped looks better” defence?
I hate it. I just argued with someone about that on a forum where this topic came up. It is such a ridiculous argument. Firstly, what is considered right looking is dependant on what everyone else’s look like. Secondly, what someone else like to see someone having is non of their fucking business. Period.
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 2:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 2:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That many legged thing that Josh said he found in his house… Eeee. I just saw it, or at least something very similar (it was moving fast, I didn’t exactly take a long look before grabbing something to smash it with) on the wall. There is now a big (big!) stain on the wall above my computer. Big.
Do they come in too many or there could have been just that one? Josh, you apparently have the experience with that kind of thing.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 2:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis:
Thank you for the tips.
I didn’t know certain sauces went with certain dishes. I wonder why green sauce isn’t found on beef enchiladas or red sauce on chicken…
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 2:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
All Hail Borkquote, Accolyte of Tpyos!
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 2:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice:
That many legged thing is a great fondue option :-)
J/k
Antiochus Epiphanes
21 July 2012 at 2:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine: Merci beaucoups*.
DensShield may be beyond my meager abilities. I’m leaning Hardibacker.
*this is how my autocorrect function likes to spell this: Merck beau pups.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 2:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Did I mention that I don’t like bugs in my territory? They freak me out.
I once spent most of a night awake walking around the room , keeping eye on a big spider. I was too afraid to try and catch it, but I didn’t want to wake grandmother (I was around ten, I think). The only time I left the room was when I had driven myself to such panic that I had cramps and a rather urgent need to visit the toilet. I woke her up then, but still didn’t manage to fall asleep that night.
I’ve made my piece with spiders, but most other things I still can’t stand. Freaking out now.
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 2:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It certainly can be, no reason why not except [Dah-dah-dah-dummmmmmmmmm!] Tradition! Light coloured meats and light coloured sauces, dark coloured meats and dark coloured sauces — tends to bring the visual colour palette together prior to the colour going on your palatte.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 2:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This joke is wasted on me, I don’t get it :(
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 2:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
AE:
:laughing: I’m adopting this, it’s fabulous.
hotshoe
21 July 2012 at 3:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Red sauce is fine on chicken. And a lot of Mex-American restaurants make red-sauce chicken enchiladas, or flautas, or mojado burritos w/ red sauce on the plate. etc … but since chicken has a milder flavor than beef or goat, chicken can let the flavor of green sauce shine through better. So it makes a nice change.
the easy way to make chicken enchiladas w/ flour tortillas and bottled green salsa
Jadzia626
21 July 2012 at 3:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I must admit I have never understood that sort of fear of tiny insects.
Sure, I’m grossed out by large, hairy spiders. I usually kill those too. I was even further desensitised to large spiders when I lived in Australia though. Other type of bugs don’t bother me at all. Except those who’re annoying – like flies of course.
But then, I’ve always been fascinated by nature. I wanted to become a biologist when I was a teenager. When I was a kid I often played with ants. I still enjoy studying insects while they crawl along my arm and hand.
Oh, and only a few weeks ago I had a long snake crawling along my arm. Awesome!
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 3:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Beatrice, I was trying to make with the funny. I need to work on my delivery.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 3:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hotshoe, that recipe is awesome and that site seems to be as well. Merck beau phosphate.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 3:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Wow my phone somehow turned PIPE into PHOSPHATE. Sheesh.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 3:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Wow my phone somehow turned PUPS into PHOSPHATE. Sheesh.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 3:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I give up.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 3:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And at some point it turned pups into pipe? :)
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 3:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Large hairy spiders are good. They are big. They have a more difficult time hiding. They don’t hang upside down on ceilings.
When I lived in Arizona, we waited, eagerly, for the two weeks when the female brown tarantulas were sexually receptive (damn, that sounds really kinky phrased that way) and the males all came out of hiding to go get their one chance a year at sex. We would catch one of the males, walk down to the visitor center at Grand Canyon, put the spider on our shoulder, or back, or head, or some other handy perch, and walk in. In anywhere from 15 seconds to 5 minutes, screams and the sounds of stampeding visitors would fill the lobby, followed very quickly by one of our dads charging out of his office to yell at us for disturbing the wildlife.
Spiders are our friends. They eat bad bugs. There are only two in the US that can even inflict a fatal bite. Spiders are harmless.
Unless, of course, you are in Australia where the spiders really are out to get you, in which case, swat away.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 3:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I never get big scary spiders in this apartment and I’ve (mostly) gotten over the fear of those non-scary small ones. Besides, any bug they get rid of is a bug I won’t encounter.
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz)
21 July 2012 at 3:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It’s that time of the year again:
Jadzia626
21 July 2012 at 3:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Ogvorbis
Hehe, fun story :P
I know they keep bugs away, so I only kill them when they crawl into my bed. Which they frequently do when I’m staying at my parent’s house.
I no longer live in Australia, I live in Norway now. Big spiders are very rare, but I have seen one of those large hunting spiders. They can be a couple of inches.
@Beatrice
I live on fourth floor in a 10 year old apartment building built with concrete elements. There are no cracks anywhere. And the building is surrounded by asphalt.
There simply are no bugs here. In my 2.5 years living in this apartment, I have killed one tiny spider that probably came in through the open window.
Beatrice
21 July 2012 at 3:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jadzia626,
We have a garden outside the town and I’m pretty sure most bugs get inside via fruits and veggies we bring from there.
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
21 July 2012 at 3:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I can take spiders.
Roaches?
Hell to the FUCK no.
Walton
21 July 2012 at 3:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What a surprise:
Disturbingly White-Supremacist Emails From Author Of Arizona’s SB 1070 Prove the Law’s Racial Motivation
Anti-immigrant laws are motivated by racism.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 3:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Teehee
Walton, click your link :D
Sili (I have no penis and I must jizz)
21 July 2012 at 4:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m amused by the placement of the loudspeaker. If only it had been functional, that piece of crap might actually have had a use.
Walton
21 July 2012 at 4:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Argh. How did I do that? That’s what I get for posting in a hurry.
Here’s what I actually intended to link to.
(I had the Charmed video open in another tab, because someone on Facebook posted a song which I, to my shame, immediately recognized as the Charmed theme tune. But anyway.)
Nightjar
21 July 2012 at 4:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, Walton, thanks for fucking up that link. I was all ready to have my faith in humanity (what rests of it, anyway) destroyed again, but then I started giggling uncontrollably instead. I needed that.
OK, now to follow the fixed link… *sigh*
birgerjohansson
21 July 2012 at 4:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Norwegians will honour the memory of those killed at Utöya Sunday, on the first anniversary.
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(I am not posting the comment below at the assigned thread, since it does not refer directly to cause and effect of the recent spree killing in USA)
-Before the recent atrocity is blamed on comics, I want to point out that the Joker character is only one of many nihilistic characters of popular culture, going back to Mr. Punch, and beyond.
So a loon with a tenous hold on reality can find many, many characters to identify with before going off to kill -remember the “Rambo” killer in Britain a couple of decades ago.
The fictional character that most closely resembles the spree killers would be a character invented by a member of the Italian “futurist” movement a century ago.
(a member of the movement once said that the quintessential futurist act would be to randomly fire a revolver into a crowd of people)
A curious offshoot of the futurist movement was a series of detective novels about a detective chasing a nihilistic villain called “Fantomas” across the world (the name has since been recycled for other villains). The real protagonist was actually Fantomas, showing that an unhealty fascination for people who are seemingly evil for evil’s own sake goes back long before the craze of serial-killer novels.
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Back in 1986 or 87, Heavy Metal Magazine (the one for science fiction and fantasy) had a story with uncanny similarities to real life.
A guy takes an obsessive interest in the chain saw film, turning up at late-night shows dressed as “leatherface” and letting his life fall apart around him. At one show he finally snaps, starts killing people in the audience, and is shot.
(of course, this was when a lot of people still thought film and TV was directly responsible for violence. Since there have been no similar spree killings during films before today, it seems the human psyche actually is quite robust)
Patricia, OM
21 July 2012 at 4:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony – Thanks for the reply on Spider Man. Will probably go see it today or tomorrow.
Speaking of red sauces, had my first taste of red bell pepper sauce on some crab cakes during the kite festival, oh YUMM!
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 5:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Reproductive-freedom-related resources?
Right now we have that fact sheet by Jacqueline Homan, I’mNotSorry.net, this piece, and Anatomy of an Unsafe Abortion. I know of more but I haven’t managed to round them up mentally yet.
Also, if anyone has the opportunity, baked goods and favorite beverages for mouthyb would not go amiss. Holy mother of fuck the amount of work she’s put in on that Wiki page has been unbelievable. I’m in awe.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 5:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m sorry – for the “this piece” link above, it’s the personal story PZ linked to a while ago called “The only good abortion is my abortion.” So, trigger warning applies, etc.
carlie
21 July 2012 at 5:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I see the multiple reboots of Spiderman, Superman, the Avengers, what have you as no different than the dozens of versions of Sherlock Holmes and Hamlet and whatnot there are out there. Classic stories that are endlessly adaptable.
Boy, WMDKitty is even worse than I thought. I weighed in too.
Markita Lynda—damn climate change!
21 July 2012 at 5:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
FossilFishy @ previous thread
Of course he should have stopped! When someone goes down, you stop. When someone is pulled over, you stop. Even if the chances are 10:1 that they don’t need anything.
And thanks for your thanks.
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan
21 July 2012 at 6:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
How to have a good day:
Meet up with friends you haven’t seen in a long time. Give gifts, some of which are backlogged from previous trips you’ve taken because your room is still a bit of a mess and you had to dig around. Add in some decent beer, Coke, iced tea/lemonade, and some great burgers. Stir in a helping of sitting on a bench at the beach and just talking and chilling, along with a heaping spoonful of puns, another of political talk, and another of making fun of Fundies. Sprinkle with some sunshine and more soda.
I only wish my friend K hadn’t developed diabetes. Poor guy, he can’t enjoy all the things he used to, and he got a sudden nosebleed in the parking lot when we left the burger bar. Also, he’s now using crutches to help with walking – I don’t know if it’s the diabetes or something left over from his years in the armed forces kicking up. Well he made it here all right, and hopefully he’ll be able to enjoy his retirement properly.
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Jesus Christ, how can WMDKitty equate circumcision to ear piercing? The latter has nothing to do with sexual performance, much less how what you feel during sex. The aftereffects of a botched circumcision don’t go away as easily as holes in the ears (barring infection). I’m tempted to tell her to just ask any guy she’s interested in if he’s uncut or not; she’ll surely find some twit who suits her tastes, and the rest of the male population can rest easy knowing they’ve avoided getting stuck with such a shallow bonebrain.
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LOl @ Walton’s borked link.
cicely
21 July 2012 at 6:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis, why do you limit the confuzzlement to the unfamiliar? I know that I’m confuzzled….
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I’ve been told that they have to keep their use of the property active, or risk losing it. Unsure how true this is.
I do know that I’m starting to suffer from a serious case of Batman/Spiderman fatigue. So many reboots…so very tiresome. If it weren’t for the endorsements by people whose judgement I trust, and for the fact that it’s the end of the trilogy (with no option for extension into a series), I wouldn’t bother going to see the new Batman flick, and I’m seriously considering giving Spidey a miss, at least until he reaches the Cheap Seats.
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I wish my Bitsy-cat would quit eating the daddy-longleggses in the bathroom. They’re on Staff.
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We do have the reclusive variety hereabouts. They are not considered Staff.
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Charmed opening credits???? Just what do they suspect is trying to immigrate?
(And I can’t help but thinking…unless you are significantly Native American, do you really stand on the moral high ground wrt illegal immigration? Seems ludicrous to me.)
(And no, I’m only insignificantly Native American, so I don’t have the high ground, either.)
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Game time!!!
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carlie
21 July 2012 at 6:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Foreskin Man, the song.
Foreskin Man, the comic.
Ogvorbis
21 July 2012 at 6:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Бидејќи не оние од нас кои често овој сајт се доста се користи за да изгние тринаесет необичноста, да се спомене гледање на работите во повремени други јазици showing up. За оние кои се запознаени со блог, исландски, македонски, и гниење тринаесет текст може да доведе непосветен да се верува дека тие залута во еден блог разговара малите коза обожување меѓу американските домаќинки. Оние од нас се користи за заминувања и доаѓања на бескрајната тема разбере дека овој вид на привремена квантната домати фиксација е сосема нормално (за дадената дефиниција на нормалното, што е).
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 6:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m having a massive, horrible fit of panic because of the stupid financial aid situation.
And because when I was printing out my application documents, my goddamn printer ran out of ink.
Patricia, OM
21 July 2012 at 6:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher – Tankard of three minute grog on its way!
Oops, almost forgot, “There, there.”
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 6:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks! Grog is a good idea.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 7:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
(semi-threadrupt)
*anklehugs Cipher and leaves ink stains* <_<
Cipher (uh, that was you, right?) re abortion resources – the recent BoingBoing article was titled 'The only moral abortion is my abortion' as a callback to a famous article collecting stories of anti-abortion women who still have abortions. It's linked lots of places, here's what I think is the main:
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html
I don't have access to my stash right now, but there were a lot of great links in the … uh *searches* … the Dumbest Anti-Choice Arguments thread.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/06/06/a-compendium-of-the-dumbest-anti-choice-arguments-ever/
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…Scuse, but how many males and females is that? (Names to me are just… names. Bunches of semirandom letters and noises.)
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 7:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx, it’s four females – Gytha, Magrat, Amelia & Agnes. Giles, Oliver, Chester, Theo, Vasco, Basil & Cole are males. This is assuming I haven’t massively fucked up on the sexing. We will be taking them with us when Esme goes in for surgery on Aug. 6th, so we’ll have our vet double check.
If I’m not mistaken, the boys already have ball bulges. That is possible at this point, right? (They’re 21 days old.)
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 7:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks Caine! Yeah, they *can* have balls showing at 21 days, though it might just be the pouches… rat balls slide up and down the inguinal canals, so they can pull them back in at will or when upside down or startled; thus it’s hard to tell for sure.
…You’re really talented with those bizarre word thingies that get used as individual identifiers. They’re all wonderful-sounding (as far as I can tell), excitingly unusual-looking, go together well as a group, and because of all that I’m completely confused. Oh well!
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 8:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx, it’s the pouches I’m seeing, I’m pretty sure. They are obvious and stand out and the biggest visual difference between the boys and girls. Thank you!
Hee. Well, some of them are after people or characters.
Gytha, after Nanny Ogg, one of the witches in the Discworld series.
Magrat, after Magrat Garlick, another witch in the Discworld series.
Agnes, after Agnes Nitt, another witch in the Discworld series.
Amelia, after Amelia Earheart.
Vasco, after Vasco de Gama.
Giles, after Sir Giles de Mer, a selkie knight in the Dragon Knight series by Gordon R. Dickson.
Basil, after Basil Rathbone, one of my all time favourite actors.
Cole, named for Ronald Colman, another of my all time favourite actors.
Oliver, Chester and Theo are just names I like a lot. :)
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 8:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Although, I gotta say, Vasco, Basil & Cole sounds like a law firm in a Monty Python sketch to me. :D
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 8:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx, I have the same attitude to names. They’re weird and semirandom.
Dad’s giving me weird looks as to why I think rats are cute.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 8:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
oh, I think in my case it’s brain wiring. I do much better with images and concrete concepts than with the amazing neurotypical dance of name/face/traits/history/preferences. It’s interesting to me how very Cainey that list of names is – and, they’re all named after *other names* because that’s how she sees the world. My own rats were named things like Dram, Scuzz, or Sample.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 8:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…Oh, I’m particularly proud of this one. I once named a particularly high-strung and jumpy lab mouse Precipitate.
<_<
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 8:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
That’s fuckin’ adorable! I like Dram, too.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 8:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thunk:
Because they are?
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 8:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
‘Rupt past 310.
Just got done giving Francine a valve adjustment. Holy fuck, but I hate those little screws on the valve cover—I couldn’t get two of them back in (fuckers just would NOT thread) so will try again tomorrow when I’m less frustrated. I was yelling ‘fuck,’ ‘bastard,’ and ‘bitch’ involuntarily until I realized my neighbors probably didn’t need to hear this.
Woot, though—pick-up and performance boost! Hopefully better economy too; those fuckin’ valves were sooooooo tight and out of adjustment.
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan
21 July 2012 at 9:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Shame I’ll be away on the day you learn for sure how many ratlets are girls and how many are boys, Caine. Will just have to do a lot of catching up when I get back home, as I’m not sure I’ll have a ton of time for internet.
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Nice to see WMDKitty took time to actually think for a bit. I’m still not sure she really gets it, though. Well, there’s hope I guess.
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Thunk:
Before posting here, I’d have agreed with him. The only rats I found even remotely cute were the white ones. I forget who it was who said they found the hooded ratlets to be very adorable, but I agree. Even cuter than plain white.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 9:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I think that was V— S—-r… and that’s how names and memory work for me. lawl
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 9:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Saw DKR and then took nap. Enjoyed it very very much.
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 9:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, Walton, really? Charmed? FOR SHAME!
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 9:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
She’s still being willfully thick and stupid. Worse, she seems to be hoping no one will remember that her original rationale for circumcision was because it made for a better fuck for her. No such luck, WMD. It’s right there on the page. You can stop pretending you have a higher and more noble concern.
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 9:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Which it isn’t. That’s both stupid and wrong.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 9:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
It was Vilém Saptar. :D
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 9:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
PTI:
Well, assuming I’m right about 4 girls, that’s not too bad at all, in the money sense (getting them spayed.) How Rubin’s crew is going to go, I don’t have a clue yet.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 9:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That’s beside the point, Ing. It’s fucking outrageous that she’d defend routine circumcision on those grounds even if that were true. I’m beyond gobsmacked she’d even think such a thing in her own head.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 9:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah…it’s been so damn hot and tomorrow, it’s going to be 96F. Oy. Gad, I wish we had central air.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 9:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
SEE I WAS RI—T! *flexes and poses*
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 9:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Latest WMDKitty to me:
“I’m not the one going into hysterics over a bit of skin.”
cicely
21 July 2012 at 9:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No Game.
:(
Nice BS session, though, on the Care and Feeding of Superhero Franchises.
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Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 9:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh and also? Sick to fucking death of comic book superheroes everywhere, all the time. It’s beyond “a little much”.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 9:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello everyone! Had a fantastic day– met some friends for a late lunch, then I went to buy crafting supplies (unsuccessfully, but whatever) with my younger (non-asshole) sister. I’m feeling very content and relaxed.
Caine:
I showed my mom your ratlet pics today. She wasn’t too fond of the nekkid ones, but the current post of Esme’s litter made her squee!
:D
(She also told me that she misses my old rat Simon. Me too, Ma, me too.)
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 9:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Heya Audley! How’s your parasite?
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 9:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
You were! You’re better at it than you think. :)
Josh, I’m with you on the comic book flicks, I’m not going to see the latest batman or spiderman. I’m burnt out on them.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 9:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello Josh!
DarkFetus is doing well (and me too), but I’m constantly getting kicked and punched– at this point, I’d like an hour or two of peace and quiet.
On the other hand, it pleased my mom and dad to no end when they finally felt her kicking. :)
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 9:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, if anyone needs a quick cheer up: Ugly Renaissance Babies.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 9:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley:
Hee. They get to everyone. The cute is seriously almost too much to bear. Now, whenever I get near the condo, they rush to the doors, start climbing them, rush up the ladders to me and it just makes my heart ache.
Poor Esme, though. She’s always right at one of the doors where they open, giving me these imploring looks – “oh gods, please get me away from these kidses!” She’s still very much ferocious mom though. The other day, I used my cutting board and several artboards to cordon off a small area around the condo to let the popcorn *pop* and Esme went berserk. (She and Rubin were having a day out of the condos.) Esme kept trying to push her way in and succeeded a few times, each time grabbing a kid and running off with it. Fun day, that.
All of Esme’s ratlets are eating dry food and salad now and every one of ‘em is a tea drinker. They are all still nursing, too. I feel so bad for Esme when they are nursing and nipple wars breaks out…she gets such a look on her little face.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 9:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine:
D:
How many nips to rats have, anyway? (I never thought to even look for a rats nips before. I suppose Esme and Rubin are pretty nippletastic at this point.)
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*blush* Thanks Caine, I’m really not… just had the impulse to make an example of how I see names (or rather, don’t see them).
To me, you’re mostly C— (ratlets!!)(survivor)(admire)(namey)(quick/erudite) and a long tail of other associations. There are a whole bunch of people who I mostly admire who are C— (active on feminism threads) and I keep getting them mixed up… and at least one is a newcomer. Back when Cipher was ClassicalCipher, then she was C—–C— and much easier for me to recognize. >_>
What I don’t have associations for, you may have noticed, are specific conversations, who lives where, who’s friends with whom, or details of anyone’s lives (unless they’re blatantly relevant, such as ratlets). Every time I go to your page I’ve forgotten that you also embroider, for instance. For that sort of thing, I have to keep notes and logs of relevant threads.
Social skills wise, this makes me very bad at the small talk expected of friends, except in areas of common interest (such as ratlets, again). Workplace politics… forget it; the context just isn’t there. Online text and chat work soooOOOO much better with logging and everyone’s comments marked with their name.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 10:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley, they have 12. And they are, indeed, nippletastic. Male rats don’t have nipples. Strangely enough, I never thought about that, prior to the whole ratlets business, I never once looked, I just assumed they were there.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 10:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
That would be Caerie. :D I have an absolutely vicious memory, a lot of times I wish it wasn’t so…efficient.
cicely
21 July 2012 at 10:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And we discussed Franchise Fatigue, too.
:)
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Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nipples work well for sexing pups too; right at the fuzzy stage, females will have visible nipples and males won’t. Once they’re thoroughly furred it’s harder to tell.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caerie, that’s it! I keep seeing her name and thinking she’s you.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I sometimes remember names by number of letters. Therefore, I always trip up Cicely, Caerie, Cipher, and carlie, as they all have six. Caine has five.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also Chigau.
cicely shuld be lowercase.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine:
That would explain why I have no idea about rat nipples, I guess.
Pteryxx:
I have the same problem right off the bat, too*, but that’s because of my dyslexia and bad habit of skimming names (when I should be paying attention to Caine’s suffix, for instance).
Caine and Caerie just don’t “read” differently to me.
*Completely different commenting styles, so by the end of the post, I’ve figured out who it is.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 10:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
Half the time when I see her nym, I think it’s either me or Carlie.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah, please leave it to me to mess up everyone’s casing.
I even capitalized my own nym once. :/
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I mostly go by, I guess, some short of shape/rhythm/outline combination. When I was newer, for quite a while I mixed up Ing and Josh. (might be clearer as I– and J–.)
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And also by color of gravatar. I’m orange, Tony and Jadehawk’s blue, Caine’s light red, and skeptifem/ixchel is green. Zombie Porcupine is burgundy or something, and Nutmeg brown. That’s my main associations.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And Vilem Saptar, yellow.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
also, Pteryxx and Cipher are both black.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And mind you, ixchel and skeptifem are “light green” to me, and Walton and Jadzia, dark green.
People whose gravatars aren’t a solid color (Audley, Josh, Kat), I just remember the pictures.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Heh – I don’t *remember* anyone’s avatars, but if they change, suddenly I don’t recognize the name anymore. *headdesk*
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
For some people, I never noticed purple.
Now I have to remember Beatrice and David Marjanovic as light purple, and cm as dark purple.
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
lawl! My associative brain recognizes “David Marjanovic” as:
D
a
v
i
d
M
a
r
j
a
n
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v
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Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 10:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And WMDKitty continues to dissemble and tell me (in all caps) to calm the fuck down, and that I’m in hysterics.
thunk, safe behind a toasty heat shield
21 July 2012 at 10:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jacklewis is a purple avatar, and its Slimepit buddy tigzy olive…
Also, Esteleth is yellow, and Ms. Daisy Cutter cream.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What the fuck? Is anyone else all of a sudden getting email notifications?
Pteryxx
21 July 2012 at 10:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley, same here… I’ll be reading Caerie and wondering why Caine is being so polite. (For what it’s worth, I’m not dyslexic… whatever wiring difficulty I have, it’s specific to names.)
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 10:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The proximate reason she said that, though (beginning at comment #12), was because the previous comment suggested that infant circumcision reduces penile sensation.
There’s good evidence against this claim, but nobody challenged it.
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PS, Josh, your implied correlation between pro-circumcision and “crazy” is idiotic.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 10:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ixchel: Go for the gold. My careless use of “crazy” is clearly more noteworthy than WMDKitty’s circumcision apologia. What, do you think I’m so stupid that I need you to explain to me what her proximate reason was? Piss off.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
21 July 2012 at 10:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx:
Same problem, different reasons. Fascinating!
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 10:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And ixchel, please take it to TZT so we don’t get smacked by PZ for fouling up the lounge. That will have the added benefit of me not being around to engage you because I don’t care to play.
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 10:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I thought it had been mentioned.
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 10:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also yes, SG, we noticed. It was sort of blindingly obvious with how she was trying to respin it as us trying to turn women into fuck toys.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 10:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I got such a freaky picture of a spider thing today!
I haven’t put it up yet, but I’m excited.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 10:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ixchel:
That hardly excuses her idiotic rationale.
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 10:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Caine
In fact I’d say that it makes it worse.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 10:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What is this, she’s worse so don’t criticize you? А у вас негров линчуют?
I don’t care if she’s a neo-Nazi. In that case it would be wrong to correlate her Nazism with “crazy”.
No, but evidently folks here* need me to explain how to argue her out of her beliefs.
Therefore I gave y’all the evidence that directly undermines her reasoning.
Use it or don’t; I don’t care whether you convince her in particular. But I do care that people generally become aware that there’s good evidence against the claim.
*Note that the first bit of my response, above the +++++, was to Ing. (Ain’t all about you. ;)
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Noticed, but failed to challenge the claim.
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Did I say otherwise?
Isn’t it apparent that I’m bothered by the claim itself?
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 10:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Which is completely transparent to anyone with the coarsest familiarity with ethical prioritization. Or one not given to riding hobby horses obsessively. Almost like OCD. Yeah, I said it. And I get to, having the condition myself.
Know what else? I’ve been calling my daily psych meds my Crazy Pills™ for 20 years. And in public!
Neener-neener.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 10:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh for goodness’ sake. Do that in private.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 10:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ing:
I agree.
Ixchel:
No, they do not. If you think you can argue her out of her beliefs, then go fucking do it yourself. Stop this asinine lecturing people, please.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 10:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher:
Oooh. A spider or a spider thing? If it’s a spider, I hope it’s an orb weaver. I love orb weavers.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 11:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I am not entirely certain that it is a spider, as it looks like it has eight legs and two segments but it’s all… odd-shaped? But sadly, I don’t think it’s an orb-weaver.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 11:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Or maybe it is!
I fail at spider identification :P I have no idea how I managed to hold steady enough to take that picture, considering I can barely look at the picture now.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 11:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher, does it look like a daddy long-legs? If it does it might be a Harvestman or other Opilione.
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 11:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Here are pictures, including the picture of the spider monster.
:)
Brother Yam
21 July 2012 at 11:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey y’all
I have a question for the hive-mind: a friend of mine has a very inquisitive 6 year old that has requested books about evolution and DNA. The evolution part was fairly simple, but does anyone know of a book that explains DNA in a general way? He’s a bright kid, so I would think that a book for a 10 year old may suffice, but I’m stumped as to a suggestion. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance…
Ing: Gerund of Death
21 July 2012 at 11:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@SG
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 11:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher:
That’s an orb weaver! Beautiful, too. I love the ladybug & frog shots. :D
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
21 July 2012 at 11:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks! :D
My mom and I are both trying to narrow down the type of orb weaver, but we’re both squicked somewhat by spiders in general, so neither of us is succeeding.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
21 July 2012 at 11:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine and Josh, your replies.
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Ing, good show. And now you have evidence to back your assertion.
Amblebury
21 July 2012 at 11:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello, everyone. I’ve not been around much of late. I’m presently at work. Wet Sunday + library = lotsa peoples. Some a little fractious. Particularly the gent who was somewhat incredulous, (in a kind of it’s-your-fault sort of way,) on being informed Evelyn Waugh was male.
So it goes. I’ll catch up when I get home.
Tethys
21 July 2012 at 11:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yay, spider identification!
It is a nursery web spider. Pisaurina mira.
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Just got home from Mom’s 70th birthday party. It was very loud, and we had a good time playing games. My two nephews who have autism symptoms have been on the Feingold diet since April. They have transformed into sweet, talkative, growing, happy children!
Before this all family events involved one or both of them turning into a destructive demon child who is screaming at a ear-bleed inducing pitch.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 11:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ixchel:
Thanks, maybe later. I’m not in the mood for threadcop antics at the moment.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
21 July 2012 at 11:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m fortifying my anti-cicely defenses in a big pot on the stove.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 11:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tethys:
You’re made of pure awesome.
Caine, Fleur du mal
21 July 2012 at 11:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Ummmm…what did I miss?
Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 12:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
See, I caught cicely skulking about these parts last night, going through my cupboards and dumping out all my legumes. So I’m taking a stand. Split soup will stop her pesky meddling.
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 12:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*blush*
In another former job I was a horticulturist and director of IPM* for the amusement park atrium in the center of the Mall of America.
*integrated pest management
We released many different beneficials as part of the program.
My favorite was the Australian Lady-beetle Cryptolaemus montrouzieri aka mealybug destroyer.
The larval form is really amazing.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Dundee
22 July 2012 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I assume Josh is making pea soup.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
22 July 2012 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine, a response to your threadcoppery.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Dundee
22 July 2012 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
oops, shoulda refreshed.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Aha! You know she’s going to set the horses on you now, right?
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
22 July 2012 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Today we went to the senior community where my inlaws live, because they’re having a yearly community yard sale. In previous years pickings have been slim, on the order of a few vintage tablecloths and a bracelet or pair of shoes — my hypothesis for this is that when people join these communities, they get rid of the accreted cool stuff of a lifetime during the moving process, so there’s not much for them to sell once they’ve settled in.
But not this year! This year apparently there was so much stuff they couldn’t even display it all in the community hall, and by the time we got there they’d breezed right past the “cutting everything to half price” strategy and gone straight to the Defcon 5 of yard sales, the “whatever you can cram in a bag is a dollar, and we mean whatever” strategy.
I brought home vintage crewel-work handbags, corningware, chiffon scarves, costume jewelry (including a Sarah Coventry set that’s apparently quite hard to find), dish towels and embroidered pillow cases, and an electric fondue set. I felt a little bad knowing I was going to resell a lot of these things on ebay for much more, but the nice old ladies kept urging us to take more! push it down harder in the bag! you can fit this in here and you need it, everyone needs one! etc, etc.
At a separate sale I found the gem of the day though — a button collection with hundreds of buttons. Hell, hundreds of mother-of-pearl shirt buttons alone. As I sorted through them (hello, aspie here, of course I sorted through them practically first thing) it became clear that this was the collection of someone who has spent decades not just buying new buttons but saving the buttons from every piece of clothing that wore out. Many many of the buttons have worn edges — for the mother-of-pearl buttons alone, dozens and dozens of shirts/blouses must have passed through her hands for at least 40 years.
That collection is practically a history of buttons since the 1940s or so. There were shoe buttons and cufflinks in it too — the lady seemed strangely reluctant to actually sell them all, and I got the feeling that this was someone who sewed for as long as she can remember, who can’t sew anymore because of eyesight or dexterity or because she has no one to sew for, and who really felt it in the moment someone offered her money for her button collection.
(We paid the first price she could bring herself to name. I plan to sell the buttons I can’t personally see myself using, and while I wouldn’t be surprised if I recouped the cost we paid her, I don’t expect to make a profit from it.)
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
22 July 2012 at 12:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
You are indeed, Tethys! ♥
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 12:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tethys:
Oooh, aggressive mimicry. Fascinating.
cicely
22 July 2012 at 12:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
:( :( :(
But Josh, I mean you no harm! And can’t possibly plan an invasion of your premises for any sooner than we finish buying back my ass; a year or so, at minimum! And anyways, I am small and utterly harmless!
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*small noise of outrage & offense*
I never did!
I would never dump out any beans you might own, and if i were to do anything at all to The Legumes Which Should Not Be Named, it would only be because I desperately needed porcupine stuffing in a hurry!
And besides that, you can’t justly call it “skulking”, which implies stealth, and my cane makes way too much noise for that.
And my eyes are old and feeble; the sound of my inept rummaging (in the dark, yet!) would in itself preclude stealthy skulkery.
So there!
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Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 12:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Kristinc, that’s amazing. I love buttons and that sounds like an incredible collection.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Dundee
22 July 2012 at 12:18 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, I think that WMD Kitty is being screamingly wrong to the point of collapsing into evil on that thread. But even so this is wrong: For multiple reasons. 1) If you genuinely know how to argue her out of her beliefs (which I doubt), then go and do it yourself. 2) Josh is venting, not looking for teh majikal solution. 3) The rest of the thread doesn’t “need” to be dragged into this. If we want to, we can go there already.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Dundee
22 July 2012 at 12:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
On a more cheerful note, I HAZ A TRILOBITE! Also a mososaur tooth and a fossilized cockle shell. My friend Eumides (a rare poster) gives the best party favours.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 12:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea:
She’s gone ’round the bend on a number of issues lately. I don’t know what in the hell has happened with her.
chigau (女性)
22 July 2012 at 12:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I have too many raspberries.
cicely
22 July 2012 at 12:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I do not have ado with the Horses; They’ll just have to set themselves.
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kristinc, it sounds like a noteworthy swag-pile. I am envious.
:)
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Tethys
22 July 2012 at 12:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher
You are welcome! I love that there are others who appreciate identifying things by Latin nomenclature.
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 12:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I started freezing them in jam sized batches. It’s been way too hot for canning.
kristinc, ~ringy dingy~
22 July 2012 at 12:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The things I found that I am puzzled about (in the button collection of awsum) look vaguely like cufflinks — they each have one glass cabochon in a metal setting — but they include a sort of spring loaded mechanism about an inch long and slightly pointy, sort of like a finishing nail in thickness and sharpness. I can’t find any sort of cufflink they could be, they’re not collar stays or shoe buttons, what they hell are they?
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 12:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea:
Nice!
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 12:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea
Very cool! Pics? Do you know what type of trilobite?
Cipher, OM, Fighting Fucktoy
22 July 2012 at 12:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tethys, is it weird for a damselfly to be white and black? I’m asking because mostly we have Common Blue and then some sort that is narrower and mostly black with a blue or green tip of its tail, but Jake found one yesterday that was white where I would have expected to see blue.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Dundee
22 July 2012 at 12:41 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I don’t have pics. It’s tiny, about 2/3 the size of my little fingernail. The gift came with notes, and it says Elrathia kingii, 507 million years old (Cambrian), Wheeler Formation, Utah, USA. The mososaur tooth is from Morocco and the cockle shell from Western Australia.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
22 July 2012 at 12:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea, since you want to argue here instead of TZT,
No thanks. I don’t comment at B&W, and I don’t care whether you convince her in particular. But I do care that people generally become aware that there’s good evidence against the claim.
Again: “Note that the first bit of my response, above the +++++, was to Ing. (Ain’t all about [Josh]. ;)
This is a response to everyone else who talked about WMDKitty here, not just me.
cicely
22 July 2012 at 12:49 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Elrathia kingii Wikipedia pics.
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Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 12:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cicely: All right. Perhaps we can come to detente. Put down that cane and I’ll put down the dried peas. :)
Mopar: Please don’t tempt me so. Yes, yes, I want to fly to Oklahoma and drive that Volare wagon home to give Francine a companion.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 12:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh, ooooooh mopar. Loves me a mopar. I miss my Plymouth Satellite. She was in fabulous condition and got her for a hundred bucks. *sniff*
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan
22 July 2012 at 12:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Holy hell, is there someone out there jogging this late at night? Or hammering something? I can’t tell, the pounding sounds almost like footsteps but it’s not regular enough to really be someone running at a steady pace.
I miss the owl. It was cool to hear one in our yard the other night. I wish it would come back.
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She’s admitted that she was wrong. I hope I’m just imagining the note of “Just chill out, OK?” in her last post. It’s late, I probably am.
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What with the talk of horses and peas, I’m now imagining the Four Horsemen attacking everyone with enormous bags of frozen peas. And the horses themselves eat some of the peas and belch putrid clouds of gas to stun or render victims comatose.
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One more thing to finish for class, for which I need to re-watch one of the videos. I’ll have to tell J we need to cancel, there’s no way I could get out of the house with only like fours hours of sleep. For once I’d like a Sunday where I don’t rush to get an assignment done before bed, lazy arse that I can be.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 12:59 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh Caine, my love affair with Mopar is sick and intense. What year was your Satellite, and what engine?
My shirt smells like exhaust and oil. . and Slant Six love after lovingly caressing Francine’s valve tappets this evening.
How’d you end up with an Elky, and is it as easy to work on as a Chrysler?
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 1:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine
We released adults, and hoped for larva. They look very much like fuzzy white alligators. They lived up to their name. A few of them on a plant would totally eliminate the mealybugs.
Most of my section was no spray because I had reproducing populations of various beneficials.
I miss growing camellias, and Australian Tree ferns.
It was one of my favorite jobs ever.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 1:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Note for fairness: WMDKitty has retracted and apologized at Ophelia’s.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 1:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Annie was a ’65, 318. Blue paint (original), black interior, bucket seats. She was so goddamn sweet, I get all teary just thinking about her. It about killed us to lose her – we were in Utah, getting ready to move to ND when she lost a transmission band. So, we sold her and took the ’71 Pontiac LeMans with us to ND.
Bought it from a friend for $400.00 and I’d say yes, they’re easy to work on. However, it can be a pain in the ass finding stock parts. Catalaine needs a new radiator and we’re still trying to track one down.
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 1:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cipher
Is this your damselfly? It is a very common variety.
Juveniles are blue.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 1:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ooooh “Catalaine.” You told me that before, but I’d forgotten. Fab name. I heart her even though I’ve never a General Motors girl.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 1:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tethys:
Yay! for you. That’s a great way to go.
Josh:
That’s good news.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 1:18 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Hee. You can sort of see her here: http://moblog.net/view/227525/-29
Ing: Gerund of Death
22 July 2012 at 1:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
WTF is up with the gun thing where people apparently hear “maybe we should control assault rifles and other high calibers more because its very easy to do a lot of damage with them” and hear “we should irradiate every gun because they are magic and make people want to murder”
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 1:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Juveniles are blue.</strikeNewly emerged adults are bluer is much more accurate, as the juvenile form is aquatic.
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 1:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Gah! Sorry, I meant to hit preview not submit.
Newly emerged damselfly adults are bluer. They change color when they become sexually mature.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 1:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Caine she’s gorgeous! Tell me she’s rarely out in the snow like that.
Tethys
22 July 2012 at 1:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ND doesn’t salt the roads in winter. Vehicles don’t rust there like they do here in MN. My Grandfather’s Studebaker wood side pick-up truck doesn’t have hardly any rust on it.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 1:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Thank you! She’s out in the snow every year. Always has been.
Josh, Official SpokesGay
22 July 2012 at 1:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
How DO you keep her from rusting? Is it as Tethys says, a lack of salt?
Nutmeg
22 July 2012 at 1:46 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Survived the bachelorette party.
The movie and dinner were both easy to get through. We all had to wear stupid little bachelorette party buttons declaring us “wild” or “sexy” or “flirty”. But I managed to “lose” mine on the way from the movie to dinner, so that was good.
The pre-gaming (does that term exist outside of MB?) session was tolerable. It was pretty tame compared to what I was worried about. We played “Pin the Junk on the Hunk” and decorated cookies shaped like penises. I took David M’s suggestion and focused on my enthusiasm about cookies, which made it less awkward.
After that we went to a club. I lack the spontaneity required for dancing, so I just stood awkwardly while my friends were dancing. People-watching was somewhat interesting – it made me wish I could read people better, because there seemed to be a lot of interesting interactions going on, but I couldn’t quite figure them out.
Of course, I got mildly lost on the way out of downtown, so I ended up going for a midnight drive around the seedier areas of the city before I found my way back to a main route.
I am so glad that tonight is over.
Caine, Fleur du mal
22 July 2012 at 1:46 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Josh:
Yep, pretty much. It’s easy to control rust on cars here. If you do find a spot rusting, and take care of it right away, no problem. Snow is just water, it doesn’t cause much damage. Salt is the killer.
ixchel, the jaguar goddess of midwifery and war ॐ
22 July 2012 at 2:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Then I was wrong; citation not needed, my arrogance unfounded.
I’m sorry. Apologies to Josh and Ing.
Walton
22 July 2012 at 2:49 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*blushes*
*hangs head in shame*
In my defence, it does feature Alyssa Milano…
Tony the Parkour Kat [safe and welcome at FtB]
22 July 2012 at 3:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So I got to thinking about WMDkitty and her awful reasoning and arguments for circumcision. Where is the fundamental disagreement here? Does she disagree about circumcision being about bodily autonomy? Does she understand the concept of of the human right to bodily autonomy? Does she just not agree that circumcision is bodily mutilation? Does she understand what it means to be mutilated? I’m trying to grasp why she has the opinions she does in an attempt to know how best to argue with her.
I tend to think that she doesn’t grasp bodily autonomy & she doesn’t agree that circumcision is genital mutilation. So how to proceed?
(Apologies if this has been addressed. Until I can get online-internet was cut off bc bill is not paid, should be Monday-Im limited in my ability to get online; my phone isn’t really suited for this kind of discussion; being limited like this made me realize how much I value this space here at PHARYNGULA in general and TET in specific. I really enjoy having you folks to chat with and learn from)
John Morales
22 July 2012 at 3:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley,
O mom-to-be, I guess now you viscerally understand “the Quickening”. :)
John Morales
22 July 2012 at 3:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
[meta]
ॐ, toeing the line ain’t a good idea — imagine you’re on probation.
(Need I write more?)
jonmilne
22 July 2012 at 4:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Okay then…
Bruce Wayne – By far the best performance as Bruce Wayne that anyone has ever delivered. Bale definitely plays the vulnerability card well and really makes for an ultra convincing “fallen icon who needs another woman to make him recover” persona.
Batman – Well, at least they fixed the Chain Smoker voice a little bit. Still very imposing and menacing, but I’d still take Keaton’s Batman anyday.
Villain – certainly the weakest of the trilogy, but considering the sheer strength of competition, that’s hardly a knock against either Bane or Tom Hardy’s performance as him. Yes, there are some speech deciphering issues, but it’s only a minority part of the film, and when most of the time you hear him speak, it’s fucking scary as hell. Absolute brilliant one-liners, and of course his physical parts in the movie are absolutely fantastic. Those who wanted a certain something from the Bane vs Batman encounters won’t be disappointed I believe. For Batman movie villain performances, I’d certainly put him above the Schumacher villains, and hell nearly all the Burton villains aside from Nicholson’s Joker.
Supporting cast – Caine, Freeman and Oldman are all as reliably great as ever, but Hathaway and Gordon-Levitt steal this movie with their scenes, because they’re really that awesome in their roles – it’s official, Hathaway makes a better Selina Kyle/Catwoman than Michelle Pfieffer. This is the thing I love about Nolan: he’s brilliant about turning good actors on the verge of being great into truly astounding performances. The woman who plays Miranda Tate (cough cough) is pretty damn good as well and she’s another extra special reason to watch this movie. Having Neeson and Murphy back was a joy too.
Plot – by far the best of the series. We may see less Batman as a result, but fuck it, less is more. I loved the real sense of despair here, and how well and truly fucked up the shit gets in Gotham. The police also look far less like idiots than they did in BB and TDK, which was refreshing.
So yeah, overall, brilliant movie, best one I’ve seen of 2012, and definitely far better than the other two comic book movies this year. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both Avengers and Amazing Spiderman, but when put next to this movie, they look like Justin Bieber and Ke$ha to The Dark Knight Rises’s Freddy Mercury. It’s one of the only movies I’ve ever been to that got a standing ovation. That shit just doesn’t happen around here.
What’s the spoiler policy with regards to discussing this movie?
John Morales
22 July 2012 at 4:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
jonmilne, have you looked at Camels With Hammers lately?
John Morales
22 July 2012 at 4:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
PS
<snicker>
This. Is. Pharyngula.
(The policy is don’t annoy PZ; you’re a regular, try to figure the specifics out yourself)
Pteryxx
22 July 2012 at 4:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
jonmilne: Post whatever spoilers *under cover of rot13 encoding* plz.
Here’s a handy encoder/decoder, there are others online:
http://rot13.com/
Encoded text looks like this:
wbazvyar: Cbfg jungrire fcbvyref *haqre pbire bs ebg13 rapbqvat*.
Pteryxx
22 July 2012 at 4:37 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
i c wat u did there….
jonmilne
22 July 2012 at 4:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Bxnl, fb nsgre nyy gur npgerff’f qravnyf nobhg ure gehr vqragvgl, ubj qb lbh guvax gur eriryngvba bs Zvenaqn Gngr nf Gnyvn Ny Tuhy pnzr bss?
Pteryxx
22 July 2012 at 5:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
forgot to mention – please put a topic in plaintext, such as ‘DKR spoilers below’, because folks also rot13 other topics and sometimes triggering material.
jonmilne
22 July 2012 at 5:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Right, sorry, that last post was indeed DKR Spoilers:
Bxnl, fb nsgre nyy gur npgerff’f qravnyf nobhg ure gehr vqragvgl, ubj qb lbh guvax gur eriryngvba bs Zvenaqn Gngr nf Gnyvn Ny Tuhy pnzr bss?
Pteryxx
22 July 2012 at 5:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
thanks! *refuses to read* ;>
Setár, self-appointed Elf-Sheriff of the FreethoughtBlogs Star Chamber
22 July 2012 at 5:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Threadrupt and just…out of it. I got harassed while at the pro-choice counter-demonstration that Crommunist has posted about, to the point of having an anxiety attack.
Thw guy got located and arrested, but…ugh. I’ve written up what I’d say and everything and I still don’t fucking feel up to calling the police and filing the report. -sigh-
Pteryxx
22 July 2012 at 6:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*anklehugs Setar*
…maybe you could call and give them your notes for now, to follow up when you can? Written testimony also counts.
Vilém Saptar
22 July 2012 at 6:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello!
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan, Pteryxx, Caine, yes, that was me! I was partly making up for thinking the hoodie ratlets were laggards in furring last week, but they really are cuter, but then again they all are lovely.
Alethea, Trilobite? You get coool gifts!
thunk, I get my own colour association? Aw, thanks! (This is cool, since I rarely clock more than a couple comments every sub-thread and it’s only been like a month I’ve been here.)
Ing, you mean “eradicate”, right? I’m guessing your autocorrect is in overdrive, you said “irradiate” on that “I wish we didn’t have Atheists saying this” thread too.
Setár, harassed? So sorry to hear that. Hope you are taking care of yourself and getting help if you need.
Tony, are you really into that parkouring stuff, or is that just a nym? Also, I dunno if you know, WMDKitty admitted their mistake and apologized.
Setár, self-appointed Elf-Sheriff of the FreethoughtBlogs Star Chamber
22 July 2012 at 6:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment