I just like orchids. Who’d say that God has an inordinate fondness of orchids just because there are so many species? Anyway, on the flip side, there certainly aren’t enough species members.
Orchids seem to exemplify what’s thought to have driven the evolution of angiosperms, sparse occurrences in most areas, hence in need of animal pollinators to selectively pollinate them–and becoming showy in the process.
I really curious about the word helleborine. Hellebores are another completely different plant. This one is an orchid, Hellebores are in the Ranunculaceae family, different orders too. There are toxic compounds associated with the name, helleborin and others with similar spellings.
This plant does not resemble Hellebores that I know. The flowers are quite different as are the leaves.
Anyone know why this plant’s common name is Helleborine?
alkaloidsays
There are two kinds of hellebores. Besides the genus Helleborus from the Ranunculaceae that you already named, Veratrum (Melanthiaceae) is also known as hellebore, but the toxins in it are steroidal alkaloids.
Erpsays
According to the OED the name means like a hellebore and refers to a supposed likeness to white hellebore aka Veratrum album.
Irene Delsesays
Helleborine is other flowers.
Couldn’t help it.
^^°
lynnwilhelmsays
At least Veratrum album is a Monocot. Some of the Cephalantherea and the Epipactis (also called Helleborine) do look the Veratrum. I’d always heard that genus called “false Hellebores”. But that’s the problem with common nomenclature.
From what I can tell several species in the Helleborus genus were described (and named-I presume) in the late 1700s. So was the Veratrum and some of the Epipactus. Then the Cephalantherea were described later.
I suppose the Helleborus we know now were described first and got the name.
Curious about the names.
JohnnieCanucksays
Reminds me of one of my favourite species names – Helvella Lacunosa. It doesn’t have that neat “Hell’a boring” aspect but it rolls off the tongue very nicely. That, and we have some in the lawn every year.
Helleborine. I pronounced it slightly differently at the end at first. Ether way, though, it’s a pretty name for a lovely flower.
StevoRsays
Yup. That’s a good name.
@2. lynnwilhelm : 28 December 2011 at 6:45 pm
Anyone know why this plant’s common name is Helleborine?”
Sadly Wikipedia :
Helleborine is the common name for a number of species of orchid. It does not correspond to any currently used taxonomic category. Some of the plants called helleborines are classified in the genus Epipactis, some in genus Cephalanthera. A genus Helleborine was formerly recognised but has now been absorbed into the Grass pink genus Calapogon.
Wondering if there’s any connection with the Hellespont (ancient Greek geography – in Asia minor) where rescued children Phrixus and Helle travelling on the back of a flying sheep – the one with the Golden Fleece – with Helle falling off and drowning and giving her name to that stretch of water? A very long shot but maybe?
Glen Davidson says
I just like orchids. Who’d say that God has an inordinate fondness of orchids just because there are so many species? Anyway, on the flip side, there certainly aren’t enough species members.
Orchids seem to exemplify what’s thought to have driven the evolution of angiosperms, sparse occurrences in most areas, hence in need of animal pollinators to selectively pollinate them–and becoming showy in the process.
Glen Davidson
lynnwilhelm says
I really curious about the word helleborine. Hellebores are another completely different plant. This one is an orchid, Hellebores are in the Ranunculaceae family, different orders too. There are toxic compounds associated with the name, helleborin and others with similar spellings.
This plant does not resemble Hellebores that I know. The flowers are quite different as are the leaves.
Anyone know why this plant’s common name is Helleborine?
alkaloid says
There are two kinds of hellebores. Besides the genus Helleborus from the Ranunculaceae that you already named, Veratrum (Melanthiaceae) is also known as hellebore, but the toxins in it are steroidal alkaloids.
Erp says
According to the OED the name means like a hellebore and refers to a supposed likeness to white hellebore aka Veratrum album.
Irene Delse says
Helleborine is other flowers.
Couldn’t help it.
^^°
lynnwilhelm says
At least Veratrum album is a Monocot. Some of the Cephalantherea and the Epipactis (also called Helleborine) do look the Veratrum. I’d always heard that genus called “false Hellebores”. But that’s the problem with common nomenclature.
From what I can tell several species in the Helleborus genus were described (and named-I presume) in the late 1700s. So was the Veratrum and some of the Epipactus. Then the Cephalantherea were described later.
I suppose the Helleborus we know now were described first and got the name.
Curious about the names.
JohnnieCanuck says
Reminds me of one of my favourite species names – Helvella Lacunosa. It doesn’t have that neat “Hell’a boring” aspect but it rolls off the tongue very nicely. That, and we have some in the lawn every year.
jacquelinesexton says
I just like the color… Purple.
johnkennell says
I’m sick of your pop-ups.
Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan says
Helleborine. I pronounced it slightly differently at the end at first. Ether way, though, it’s a pretty name for a lovely flower.
StevoR says
Yup. That’s a good name.
@2. lynnwilhelm : 28 December 2011 at 6:45 pm
Sadly Wikipedia :
For once is deeply unhelpful.
Wondering if there’s any connection with the Hellespont (ancient Greek geography – in Asia minor) where rescued children Phrixus and Helle travelling on the back of a flying sheep – the one with the Golden Fleece – with Helle falling off and drowning and giving her name to that stretch of water? A very long shot but maybe?