Northerners in Australia meanwhile expect tropical heat and perhaps thunderstorms and drenching warm rain with about 30 degree* temps ~ish (Celsius not Fahrenheit obvs*) esp given the recent cyclone I lsa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Ilsa ) whilst northerners in Africa expect Saharan drought, dry heat and maybe the odd sandstorm..
Don’t the Minnesotan spiders hide from the coldest conditions in warm spots eg your compost bin and or do the arachnid equivalent of hibernation as eggs or in some variant of torpor like eg this Weta (Hemideina maori) does here albeit an Orthopteran rather than arachnid invertebrate?
birgerjohanssonsays
OT
The biggest rocket ever is set för launch in about 55 minutes from now, visible in real time at Youtube.
(I know Musk is involved for paying the bill, but we do not say Apollo was bad because Lyndon Johnson and Nixon provided the budget)
StevoRsays
@ ^ birgerjohansson : Truth! Heartily seconded by me here. Well put.
As now it is T minus under thirty minutes to go and counting and looking good. SF turning reality and loving it.
Apologies for the threadjacking.
nomenexrectosays
I’m living 5 degrees more northerly, and snow is rare where I live. Gives some insight about what we will have to look forward to when the gulfstream ceases.
birgerjohanssonsays
AAAAARGHH.
PZ just said the launch has been canceled.
.
Weird. We got an early spring.
Wait! Did not Ray Bradbury write about “rocket summer”?
jenorafeuersays
Whereas here in Toronto we ended up hitting 29C (84F) for the last few days.
Unsurprisingly the Great Lakes can lead to very different climate on the northern and southern shores of the same lake. Buffalo tends to get a lot more snow than Toronto, despite the fact that on good days you can see across Lake Ontario between them. (I suspect there’s some wind funnel over Niagara Falls focused by comparatively stable air masses over Lakes Erie and Ontario, resulting in generally wetter air over Buffalo.)
@8,
The issue with snow and Buffalo is that if the prevailing winds are from the southwest, that air rides over Lake Erie, picks up moisture, and dumps it over land at the far end (that would be Buffalo and towns like Hamburg). That’s called “lake effect snow”, and having lived my life in the shadow of lake effect, it is something to behold. Toronto, being on the western end of Lake Ontario, will not get lake effect snow from Lake Ontario, although it is possible to get it from Lake Huron/Georgian Bay (quite a throw). Sometimes, there will be a link-up between Lake Huron and Lake Ontario, and amazing amounts of snow will fall to the east. The Tug Hill Plateau, at the east end of Lake Ontario, is famous for the insane amounts of snow they get (as in setting records for the lower 48 states). Tug Hill is not far from where I live.
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot see Toronto from Buffalo unless you are airborne. You can see Toronto from the south shore of Lake Ontario, though (from Fort Niagara to points east, like Olcott). I have relatives in that region and have viewed Toronto from the south shore many times on clear days. FYI, that area tends to be a little too far north to get substantial lake effect snow from Lake Erie.
asclepiassays
That was us (Wyoming) last weekend. The first week of April here was cold and snowy. Cheyenne got about 6 inches, and we were lucky–Casper got over 3 feet! Last week it warmed up–hit almost 80 the second Tuesday of the month. Saturday morning, I was walking dogs in the snow again. The first couple days of this week are supposed to be relatively warm, but temperatures are supposed to dip again starting Wednesday. I know parts of Idaho have gotten slammed, too, but the locals (both here and there) will just use it as an excuse to stick their heads further into the sand and claim that huge amounts of snow prove there is no global warming while ignoring the fact that every atmospheric scientist who wasn’t a shill for the oil companies predicted this.
wzrd1says
Well, it’s 65 degrees F here, don’t feel like doing the conversion right now.
But, if I dug around, I have some photos of the aftermath of a spring snowstorm in SE Pennsylvania, where I was grilling some ribs outside, with the grille surrounded by piled snow taller than the large gas grille.
Personally, I prefer warm, so I’m looking forward to bikini season. Even if the EPA refuses to waive their regulation against me wearing a bikini.
StevoR says
Northerners in Australia meanwhile expect tropical heat and perhaps thunderstorms and drenching warm rain with about 30 degree* temps ~ish (Celsius not Fahrenheit obvs*) esp given the recent cyclone I lsa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Ilsa ) whilst northerners in Africa expect Saharan drought, dry heat and maybe the odd sandstorm..
To quote the Doctor :
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7e24b99e-99cc-40fd-934d-70754c699a33
& thus “northerners”..
.* So in degrees F about 86 Fahrenheit.. ( https://www.metric-conversions.org/temperature/celsius-to-fahrenheit.htm )
chigau (違う) says
Northerners?
StevoR says
Don’t the Minnesotan spiders hide from the coldest conditions in warm spots eg your compost bin and or do the arachnid equivalent of hibernation as eggs or in some variant of torpor like eg this Weta (Hemideina maori) does here albeit an Orthopteran rather than arachnid invertebrate?
birgerjohansson says
OT
The biggest rocket ever is set för launch in about 55 minutes from now, visible in real time at Youtube.
(I know Musk is involved for paying the bill, but we do not say Apollo was bad because Lyndon Johnson and Nixon provided the budget)
StevoR says
@ ^ birgerjohansson : Truth! Heartily seconded by me here. Well put.
SpaceX’s live youtube launch stream here with others also covering it too. Watching now and loving it.
As now it is T minus under thirty minutes to go and counting and looking good. SF turning reality and loving it.
Apologies for the threadjacking.
nomenexrecto says
I’m living 5 degrees more northerly, and snow is rare where I live. Gives some insight about what we will have to look forward to when the gulfstream ceases.
birgerjohansson says
AAAAARGHH.
PZ just said the launch has been canceled.
.
Weird. We got an early spring.
Wait! Did not Ray Bradbury write about “rocket summer”?
jenorafeuer says
Whereas here in Toronto we ended up hitting 29C (84F) for the last few days.
Unsurprisingly the Great Lakes can lead to very different climate on the northern and southern shores of the same lake. Buffalo tends to get a lot more snow than Toronto, despite the fact that on good days you can see across Lake Ontario between them. (I suspect there’s some wind funnel over Niagara Falls focused by comparatively stable air masses over Lakes Erie and Ontario, resulting in generally wetter air over Buffalo.)
Autobot Silverwynde says
Wisconsin in mid-April be like:
jimf says
@8,
The issue with snow and Buffalo is that if the prevailing winds are from the southwest, that air rides over Lake Erie, picks up moisture, and dumps it over land at the far end (that would be Buffalo and towns like Hamburg). That’s called “lake effect snow”, and having lived my life in the shadow of lake effect, it is something to behold. Toronto, being on the western end of Lake Ontario, will not get lake effect snow from Lake Ontario, although it is possible to get it from Lake Huron/Georgian Bay (quite a throw). Sometimes, there will be a link-up between Lake Huron and Lake Ontario, and amazing amounts of snow will fall to the east. The Tug Hill Plateau, at the east end of Lake Ontario, is famous for the insane amounts of snow they get (as in setting records for the lower 48 states). Tug Hill is not far from where I live.
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot see Toronto from Buffalo unless you are airborne. You can see Toronto from the south shore of Lake Ontario, though (from Fort Niagara to points east, like Olcott). I have relatives in that region and have viewed Toronto from the south shore many times on clear days. FYI, that area tends to be a little too far north to get substantial lake effect snow from Lake Erie.
asclepias says
That was us (Wyoming) last weekend. The first week of April here was cold and snowy. Cheyenne got about 6 inches, and we were lucky–Casper got over 3 feet! Last week it warmed up–hit almost 80 the second Tuesday of the month. Saturday morning, I was walking dogs in the snow again. The first couple days of this week are supposed to be relatively warm, but temperatures are supposed to dip again starting Wednesday. I know parts of Idaho have gotten slammed, too, but the locals (both here and there) will just use it as an excuse to stick their heads further into the sand and claim that huge amounts of snow prove there is no global warming while ignoring the fact that every atmospheric scientist who wasn’t a shill for the oil companies predicted this.
wzrd1 says
Well, it’s 65 degrees F here, don’t feel like doing the conversion right now.
But, if I dug around, I have some photos of the aftermath of a spring snowstorm in SE Pennsylvania, where I was grilling some ribs outside, with the grille surrounded by piled snow taller than the large gas grille.
Personally, I prefer warm, so I’m looking forward to bikini season. Even if the EPA refuses to waive their regulation against me wearing a bikini.