My wife and I are going to see Deadpool tonight, I think (this may be one time the theater is overcrowded here in Morris). I’m concerned. This is one movie I’ve heard a lot of gushing hype about, and I have high expectations.
That usually means I’m going to be grievously disappointed.
Stay tuned, I’m going in to the 7:00 showing.
I’m back!
It was OK. It was an amusing, entertaining bit of fluff. An amusing, entertaining, hyper-violent, mildly raunchy, rude bit of fluff. I laughed several times. The audience laughed a lot, and was maybe trying too hard. There were a few moments where I wanted to turn around and tell the screeching, howling people behind me that you didn’t need to laugh every time someone got killed. Save it for the funny bits.
But yes, I laughed at “International Women’s Day.”
No, it’s awesome. It’s everything you could want from a Deadpool movie.
PS: IMHO, it was pretty good on women’s issues, although I suspect there is some cause for outrage concerning the scenes with the Indian taxicab driver (i.e. racist overtones).
PZ:
Thankfully, I haven’t. Look forward to the review. In the meantime, I expect I better avoid this thread.
I haven’t enjoyed a movie in a while and i have to say i loved it.
My engineering company is having a “Women’s Day” and being a woman engineer i didn’t know how to feel about that.
But now all i think of is the movie Dead Pool – Happy Women’s Independence Day!
I heard there’s also a vaguely transphobic (gender-essentialisic?) joke in it.
Dunno if I should spoiler it (are there spoiler-tags here?). In either case, I only know the line itself, without any bigger context, so it might not be an issue at all.
DrMcCoy, no it’s more a case of Deadpool being an equal-opportunity offender. The character himself is pretty hetero-flexible, but the snarky insults flying in every direction are part of the splatter-fest aesthetic of the movie.
I loved it. It has one of the best super strength fights I’ve ever seen.
Deadpool? Bah. I saw Kung Fu Panda 3 today. It was AWESOME.
The only downside I can think of is that a lot of the gags are related to either comic-book movies or else the previous work of one Mr Ryan Reynolds. So if you know and care that RR played Green Lantern, or RR played a totally off-model Deadpool in that Wolverine movie, or that RR is an actor who gets featured on magazine covers a lot, then the callbacks will be amusing in an in-joke kind of way. If you know but don’t care, they’re still an example of the script-writer’s craft, a bit like the weird plate you get your meal served on at a hipster restaurant.
The inevitable post-credits scene was predictable. I sat through the credits thinking “I wonder if the post-credits scene will be a spoof/rip-off/homage/riff on SPOILERSPOILERSPOILER” and sure enough, it was. But it was cute. Sometimes you just have to go where the obviousness leads you.
I laughed a lot.
I haven’t seen it, but I have to admit I’m tempted. From the trailer itself to the review over at Skepchick, I’m feeling pretty positive about it, even though I don’t actually like Deadpool all that much as a comic or character. Even finding out that Captain Marvel’s been postponed for an entire year for the sake of “Ant-Man and the Wasp” (it had better be a major step up from Antman to justify pushing Colonel Danvers back, Marvel, that’s all I’m going to say) hasn’t soured me against the idea. I look forward to hearing all about how you hate it! :P
I don’t pay attention to the opening credits of movies unlike some people, and this movie made me regret it. When you have lines there such as “Produced by / A bunch of asshats”, you know that anything will be fair game.
I also quite enjoyed my time watching it. It was dumb and fun, and that’s all I really wanted going in.
And despite that, it still had a couple of pretty good emotional moments. I also liked that it was a much smaller stakes movie than just about every superhero movie we’ve had to date, which is a bit refreshing.
All in all, an enjoyable romp of stupidity and ultraviolence that worked far better than it had any right to. It’s not OMG MINDBLOWING like some people have put up, but it pretty much was spot on for the character and style of Deadpool, and that’s all I really wanted from it.
I am also loving they brought in Bob, Agent of HYDRA (with some changes) into the film.
@ Artor and McCoy;
Ryan Reynolds has basically said “Deadpool is pansexual” at one point, and it kind of fits.
further and also; this movie is an example of how to do offensive jokes without punching down or being outright insulting.
Allright Peez! You’ve seen the movie by now, what do you think?
My opinion is in the post.
I admit I enjoyed that a lot of the movie catered to Generation X, from the two contrasting songs in the opening section to the postcredits easter egg, there were a lot of references to things I grew up with/listened to in college/etc. (Granted, I may have more Salt-n-Pepa exposure, having grown up in the same area as them, and being roughly the same age.)
I admit the International Women’s Day joke, while funny at first, bugged me a bit on second viewing (yep, saw it twice). DP is going along with it, but he doesn’t seem to be enjoying it (even saying “no”!). And a lot of asshats believe that if you give women some equality, they’ll turn into strap-on wearing doms terrorizing the men. So. Funny, but not without problems.
The opening credits were hilarious. My favorite line of the whole movie is “The Real Heroes Here,” which sentiment every writer on earth can appreciate.
Speaking only for myself as someone who has been in a fairly similar situation: sometimes, even if you don’t enjoy the act itself, you enjoy that your partner enjoys it. There is a lot of missing context for the particulars that went into negotiation and feelings before & after, but everything we saw about their relationship both sexually and emotionally is that they really connected and are very healthy for each other. In the context of that, I don’t think it’s problematic at all.
Also, saying “no” in that context can just mean “stop moving for a second”. That’s why safewords are useful.
Tashiliciously Shriked @12:
In response to a fan saying Deadpool was ‘legit pansexual, DP’s co-creator Fabian Nicieza had this to say:
Tony!:
:Laughs: Oh people are so very fucked up.
Has Marvel recently started portraying DP as having serious romantic relationships with men now? Because while there have been a lot of gay jokes made by DP regarding Cable and various other characters, I don’t ever remember it ever being treated as anything other than humor, unlike his various female relationships.
microraptor @21:
Not to my knowledge. I’m not the best person to ask on Deadpool though, bc I was burnt out on him years before the movie was even a glimmer in the minds of moviegoers. He began to rise in popularity in the comics in the mid to late 00s, and his personality just grates on my nerves. I can handle him in small doses, but these days, he’s all over the place, and many times in books I don’t want him in (like Avengers).
@ DrMcCoy / artor #4/5
In regards to the joke in question: There isn’t much context around it really. My personal feeling on it was that it felt out of place, did comes across as transphobic, and could have been replaced with something else for the same effect. It was good to see that it was literally a one off comment, and wasn’t used as a running gag they way some writers would use it.
@Tashiliciously Shriked #13
Much agreement. A friend of mine also pointed out that despite all the violence in the movie there was no sexual violence at all.
It is also a great example of a movie with strong, well developed female characters who all feel like complete characters with their own sense of agency. They aren’t just there as a prop to be used, and each one of them is integral to the plot (even the secondary characters).
Tony @22:
Yeah, I like Deadpool, but only in small doses. Marvel has definitely been overexposing him in the last decade.
@24, microraptor
I’m reminded of Wolverine during the 80s/90s when they would just put him on a cover even if he wasn’t in the issue.
It was worth it just to find out that Keira Knightly will play the big strong white-haired flatop guy with a bionic arm in the sequel because “she has range”.
Dopey, rude, offensive, and hilarious. The blood-splattered superhero equivalent of a Will Ferrell movie
Matrim @25:
There’s even a trope for that.
To Jado
I hope they get her for like a 10 second cameo in a dream sequence where Deadpool explains how great it would be to the audience, but then transitions to a more reasonable actor for the role.
@ EnlightenmentLiberal:
You mean like Charlize Theron?