That reminds me of the mildly deranged penguin cooking breakfast (oatmeal), including the aerial surveillance to see if it needs turning over. Don’t recall the camera ever melting, albeit the kitchen usually did.
Blimey I didn’t mean to start a whole derail. Thanks all, and sorry ’bout that.
Larrysays
The sacrifice of a dozen drones is a minuscule price to pay for live pictures from above an active, freakin’ volcano! Dress another one up in a drone-size version of the protective coats scientists wear when standing next to molten lava and sent it out there. I need another fix.
Well, science showed you can get drone to photograph an erupting volcano. Now, to wait until the engineering can get one to survive the heat and get back to base totally intact, without needed a huge amount of fuel due to the weight.
Arkadysays
This seems like an opportune moment to plug a friend’s research! Using (home-built) quadcopters to fly research equipment over Mount Erebus in Antarctica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA1cMbcm6bc
Unfortunately the USAP has just banned the use of all UAVs by their personnel in Antarctica, with not much time to try to get permissions before the start of this year’s fieldwork season. http://www.usap.gov/News/contentHandler.cfm?id=4071
He’s hoping the permissions will come through in time for this year’s fieldwork season but he’s not that optimistic it will happen.
cksays
@Nerd,
Based on the “making of”, it seems that the drone survived, but just the camera that melted. They probably just need to add some temperature monitoring to the thing, and start alerting or trigger the failsafe return to base function if the air temperatures get too high. It doesn’t look like any of it is anything other than consumer electronics, so finding out the highest temps it can tolerate might be tricky, though.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
It doesn’t look like any of it is anything other than consumer electronics, so finding out the highest temps it can tolerate might be tricky, though.
Science is proving it can be done, which happened, and engineering is showing it can be done safely, which needs some work. So, where have I gone wrong?
Pseudonymsays
Well, science showed you can get drone to photograph an erupting volcano. Now, to wait until the engineering can get one to survive the heat and get back to base totally intact, without needed a huge amount of fuel due to the weight.
I’m not sure a drone photographing an erupting volcano is a triumph of science rather than engineering, but regardless, if weight is ever a problem, can’t they just use one of those Little Bird UAVs?
Okay… I know this is off-topic and I’m so sorry, but… I just tried posting twice in Thunderdome 54. and neither of my posts is showing up… are they showing up for anybody else?
The sacrifice of a dozen drones is a minuscule price to pay…
Virgin drones! Or our Chthonic oBerlawds shan’t be appeased.
birgerjohanssonsays
Virgin drones! Or bankers…
AndrewDsays
birgerjohansson @22.
I was under the impression that Bankers were immortal as even Satan has standards…
Tigger_the_Wing, asking "Where's the justice?"says
NateHevens. He who hates straight, white, cis-gendered, able-bodied men (not really) @ 21 – both are showing up for me.
Would such a device help in the search for the missing people on Mount Ontake? I’ve been following that eruption since a few hours after it happened (in the middle of the night for me). I feel so sorry for the people who died, and their families.
sparkssays
If rescuers can’t breath at the summit, can drone engines?
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
If rescuers can’t breath at the summit, can drone engines?
Depends on why rescuers can’t breath. If it is lack of oxygen, that could effect an engine. Toxic gases like carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide and hydrogen sulfide at low concentrations wouldn’t effect an engine; several percent concentrations is a different story.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
A bigger problem for an engine inhaling air around a volcano is ash. That will either plug the air filter, or if it gets into moving parts, abrade them.
numerobissays
A lot of UAV engines are electric, so they aren’t burning anything — they’d fly perfectly fine.
scottde says
If only Empedocles had one of these…
blf says
That reminds me of the mildly deranged penguin cooking breakfast (oatmeal), including the aerial surveillance to see if it needs turning over. Don’t recall the camera ever melting, albeit the kitchen usually did.
Daz: Keeper of the Hairy-Eared Dwarf Lemur of Atheism says
What is this letter: ð And how does one form it?
Rob Grigjanis says
Daz @3: It’s basically a voiceless ‘th’, IIRC.
chigau (違う) says
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_dental_fricative
Daz: Keeper of the Hairy-Eared Dwarf Lemur of Atheism says
Thanks Rob
As to forming it, BabelMap to the rescue: ð
René says
Daz, wiki ‘eth’. It has a capital that isn’t used in the title of the first video. The second video doesn’t run on my fucking Samsung tablet.
Daz: Keeper of the Hairy-Eared Dwarf Lemur of Atheism says
And thanks chigau, too.
wneroaster says
If the guy had put an IR filter/shield in front of the camera, that wouldn’t have happened.
Tethys says
How to pronounce “Bárðarbunga”
Rob Grigjanis says
chigau @5: I sit corrected.
Moggie says
Isn’t that Mordor?
Daz: Keeper of the Hairy-Eared Dwarf Lemur of Atheism says
Blimey I didn’t mean to start a whole derail. Thanks all, and sorry ’bout that.
Larry says
The sacrifice of a dozen drones is a minuscule price to pay for live pictures from above an active, freakin’ volcano! Dress another one up in a drone-size version of the protective coats scientists wear when standing next to molten lava and sent it out there. I need another fix.
Pseudonym says
According to the great wiki in the sky ð is actually a voiced alveolar non-sibilant fricative for what it’s worth.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says
Well, science showed you can get drone to photograph an erupting volcano. Now, to wait until the engineering can get one to survive the heat and get back to base totally intact, without needed a huge amount of fuel due to the weight.
Arkady says
This seems like an opportune moment to plug a friend’s research! Using (home-built) quadcopters to fly research equipment over Mount Erebus in Antarctica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA1cMbcm6bc
Unfortunately the USAP has just banned the use of all UAVs by their personnel in Antarctica, with not much time to try to get permissions before the start of this year’s fieldwork season. http://www.usap.gov/News/contentHandler.cfm?id=4071
He’s hoping the permissions will come through in time for this year’s fieldwork season but he’s not that optimistic it will happen.
ck says
@Nerd,
Based on the “making of”, it seems that the drone survived, but just the camera that melted. They probably just need to add some temperature monitoring to the thing, and start alerting or trigger the failsafe return to base function if the air temperatures get too high. It doesn’t look like any of it is anything other than consumer electronics, so finding out the highest temps it can tolerate might be tricky, though.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says
Science is proving it can be done, which happened, and engineering is showing it can be done safely, which needs some work. So, where have I gone wrong?
Pseudonym says
I’m not sure a drone photographing an erupting volcano is a triumph of science rather than engineering, but regardless, if weight is ever a problem, can’t they just use one of those Little Bird UAVs?
NateHevens. He who hates straight, white, cis-gendered, able-bodied men (not really) says
Okay… I know this is off-topic and I’m so sorry, but… I just tried posting twice in Thunderdome 54. and neither of my posts is showing up… are they showing up for anybody else?
theophontes (恶六六六缓步动物) says
@ Larry #14
Virgin drones! Or our Chthonic oBerlawds shan’t be appeased.
birgerjohansson says
Virgin drones! Or bankers…
AndrewD says
birgerjohansson @22.
I was under the impression that Bankers were immortal as even Satan has standards…
Tigger_the_Wing, asking "Where's the justice?" says
NateHevens. He who hates straight, white, cis-gendered, able-bodied men (not really) @ 21 – both are showing up for me.
Would such a device help in the search for the missing people on Mount Ontake? I’ve been following that eruption since a few hours after it happened (in the middle of the night for me). I feel so sorry for the people who died, and their families.
sparks says
If rescuers can’t breath at the summit, can drone engines?
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says
Depends on why rescuers can’t breath. If it is lack of oxygen, that could effect an engine. Toxic gases like carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide and hydrogen sulfide at low concentrations wouldn’t effect an engine; several percent concentrations is a different story.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says
A bigger problem for an engine inhaling air around a volcano is ash. That will either plug the air filter, or if it gets into moving parts, abrade them.
numerobis says
A lot of UAV engines are electric, so they aren’t burning anything — they’d fly perfectly fine.