And this shocking incident in Matthew is one of the most widely documented Biblical events in independent historical accounts, because no one could possibly ignore the occurrence of mass resurrections in a major city like Jerusalem. Right? … Right?!
chigau (違う)says
Do I hear *crickets*?
rorschachsays
And this shocking incident in Matthew is one of the most widely documented Biblical events in independent historical accounts
It also features prominently in countless Bible movies.
robrosays
Zeno @#6
…because no one could possibly ignore the occurrence of mass resurrections in a major city like Jerusalem.
Maybe no one would notice. They had resurrections fairly frequently apparently. The NT cites four or five, and the OT has at least three. The Biblical record is spotty at best as they weren’t doing history in the modern sense or news coverage, so they probably didn’t recording every one.
procyonsays
So Night of The Living Dead IS based on a true story?
IRIS: Okay! Happy Grove Park Inn Spa Day? Happy “I’ma go in all the spa pools” day?
MOM: [silence]
IRIS: Mom? Mom! THIS IS IMPORTANT.
Randall Slonakersays
This is yet another example of one of the interesting, juicy things that I was never taught in church, and only learned about sometime during the last 6 years in which I have been visiting atheist sites such as this.
Mind you, while I have been a non-believer for several years, I was brought up in a Baptist congregation where Bible study and strict biblical literalism was endorsed. Very interesting….
Randall Slonakersays
@Carol Sperling-“It’s just AMAZING what falls out when you crack open that book.”
So well said!
Steve Caldwellsays
Here’s a quote from the “Walking Dead” TV zombie apocalypse series spoken by the character Hershel Greene:
“I can’t profess to understand God’s plan, Christ promised the resurrection of the dead. I just thought he had something a little different in mind.”
As Christopher Hitchens pointed out, something you’d think the historians of the time would have noticed, but apparently didn’t.
grahamsays
I genuinely thought that this was satire, and not in very good taste at that. So I goes to my bible and- christ on a bycicle there it is! Not sure why my RE teacher failed to bring this one to my attention. What a weird mess the bible is.
rorschachsays
So I goes to my bible and- christ on a bycicle there it is! Not sure why my RE teacher failed to bring this one to my attention.
Every now and then we regulars get reminded of why we spend so much time here, and this is one of those times. The most interesting and revealing things in the religious holy books are those the preachers and priests and RE teachers fail to mention in their sermons or services.
steffpsays
Mathew’s gospel is usually believed to be from the eighties or nineties of the first century, when Jerusalem was in ruins, and Jewish statehood and authorities were non-existent. So any author could make up stories about what happened back in 33 or 37, without fear of being confronted with official records. Authors could claim to have hearsay witness from people who unfortunately got lost in the revolt. It’s a bit like all those patriotic movies in which fictional US heroes win the Vietnam war. You know it’s bullshit, but it gives a warm feeling of superiority. Anyway, Josephus, the usually reliable Jewish historian, never mentions the sudden emergence of “many holy men” from their graves.
I read somewhere that there are 400 “confirmed resurrections” by Xian saints alone. So it seems to have happened quite often, and Josephus, as one who was familiar with the phenomenon, should have mentioned it.
A more recent example is here: The praying cardiologist. praying, and re-applying a defibrillator device… a miracle, indeed.
That sounds like a stormfront-approved message. I’d go with something like “Happy zombie jesus day!” and kind of steer away from the whole ethnic angle.
thebookofdavesays
This year, Zombie Jesus Day coincided with Hitler’s B-Day. Could have been a Nazi Zombie double feature. However, after an all-night vigil in the pumpkin patch, nothing arose. Disappointed!
moarscienceplzsays
You left out the bit about the solar eclipse that no one else in the world saw fit to comment about.
Crimson Clupeidaesays
anuran @15: Dead jew on a stick day is good Friday. Easter is Zombie Jeebus day.
Zombie Jeezus Day also coincided with 4/20. I saw a tweet from “God” (@TheTweetofGod, totally worth following btw) who said. “Easter falls on 4/20. Truly, he is resin.”
ekwhite says
I think I saw that movie on SyFy
Tony! The Fucking Queer Shoop! says
ChasCPeterson says
BraaaaaaiiiiinnnnsssssSoooouuuulllllssssssGreetings!
ambassadorfromverdammt says
That’s why, nowadays, double tap!
Carol Sperling says
It’s just AMAZING what falls out when you crack open that book !
Zeno says
And this shocking incident in Matthew is one of the most widely documented Biblical events in independent historical accounts, because no one could possibly ignore the occurrence of mass resurrections in a major city like Jerusalem. Right? … Right?!
chigau (違う) says
Do I hear *crickets*?
rorschach says
It also features prominently in countless Bible movies.
robro says
Zeno @#6
Maybe no one would notice. They had resurrections fairly frequently apparently. The NT cites four or five, and the OT has at least three. The Biblical record is spotty at best as they weren’t doing history in the modern sense or news coverage, so they probably didn’t recording every one.
procyon says
So Night of The Living Dead IS based on a true story?
irisvanderpluym says
IRIS: Happy Zombie Jeezus Day, Ma!
MOM: Happy whatever you want to call the day.
IRIS: Okay! Happy Grove Park Inn Spa Day? Happy “I’ma go in all the spa pools” day?
MOM: [silence]
IRIS: Mom? Mom! THIS IS IMPORTANT.
Randall Slonaker says
This is yet another example of one of the interesting, juicy things that I was never taught in church, and only learned about sometime during the last 6 years in which I have been visiting atheist sites such as this.
Mind you, while I have been a non-believer for several years, I was brought up in a Baptist congregation where Bible study and strict biblical literalism was endorsed. Very interesting….
Randall Slonaker says
@Carol Sperling-“It’s just AMAZING what falls out when you crack open that book.”
So well said!
Steve Caldwell says
Here’s a quote from the “Walking Dead” TV zombie apocalypse series spoken by the character Hershel Greene:
“I can’t profess to understand God’s plan, Christ promised the resurrection of the dead. I just thought he had something a little different in mind.”
anuran says
@11 irisvanderpluym
I call it “Happy Dead Jew Onna Stick Day”
Kevin Alexander says
So if you get your braaiiiins eaten it doesn’t necessarily make you a zombie it just makes you religious.
Or is that the same thing?
jemimacole says
There’s a good, new discussion of this passage here:
https://lanceparkin.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/a-bad-day-to-bury-good-news/
weatherwax says
As Christopher Hitchens pointed out, something you’d think the historians of the time would have noticed, but apparently didn’t.
graham says
I genuinely thought that this was satire, and not in very good taste at that. So I goes to my bible and- christ on a bycicle there it is! Not sure why my RE teacher failed to bring this one to my attention. What a weird mess the bible is.
rorschach says
Every now and then we regulars get reminded of why we spend so much time here, and this is one of those times. The most interesting and revealing things in the religious holy books are those the preachers and priests and RE teachers fail to mention in their sermons or services.
steffp says
Mathew’s gospel is usually believed to be from the eighties or nineties of the first century, when Jerusalem was in ruins, and Jewish statehood and authorities were non-existent. So any author could make up stories about what happened back in 33 or 37, without fear of being confronted with official records. Authors could claim to have hearsay witness from people who unfortunately got lost in the revolt. It’s a bit like all those patriotic movies in which fictional US heroes win the Vietnam war. You know it’s bullshit, but it gives a warm feeling of superiority. Anyway, Josephus, the usually reliable Jewish historian, never mentions the sudden emergence of “many holy men” from their graves.
I read somewhere that there are 400 “confirmed resurrections” by Xian saints alone. So it seems to have happened quite often, and Josephus, as one who was familiar with the phenomenon, should have mentioned it.
A more recent example is here: The praying cardiologist. praying, and re-applying a defibrillator device… a miracle, indeed.
Marcus Ranum says
@#15 I call it “Happy Dead Jew Onna Stick Day”
That sounds like a stormfront-approved message. I’d go with something like “Happy zombie jesus day!” and kind of steer away from the whole ethnic angle.
thebookofdave says
This year, Zombie Jesus Day coincided with Hitler’s B-Day. Could have been a Nazi Zombie double feature. However, after an all-night vigil in the pumpkin patch, nothing arose. Disappointed!
moarscienceplz says
You left out the bit about the solar eclipse that no one else in the world saw fit to comment about.
Crimson Clupeidae says
anuran @15: Dead jew on a stick day is good Friday. Easter is Zombie Jeebus day.
Get it right! :-p
irisvanderpluym says
Zombie Jeezus Day also coincided with 4/20. I saw a tweet from “God” (@TheTweetofGod, totally worth following btw) who said. “Easter falls on 4/20. Truly, he is resin.”