1. melody says

    I have been wanting to do one of these with you. I wish I had known in advance. I’m in my PJs with my wet hair in a towel.

  2. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Can’t attend. Got laundry, dinner, and no mircrophone….

  3. John Morales says

    melody, you can just do the audio.

    (I can think of at least one low-tech solution to disabling video… ;) )

  4. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Dang, I might have a USB microphone from an earlier voice recognition entry I purchased for the Redhead. Is there a generic driver, and where did I leave it? (In a bag in a box at the bottom of the closet, IIRC, manana.)

  5. mobius says

    Ah…I used Google to find Google + and the Myers Hangout. It’s about 9:30 Central time, so I’m guessing it’s over by now. Sorry I missed it. I’ll have to figure out how to get registered and try to make the next one (assuming there will be a next one, since it looks like the conversation went well.)

    Take care everyone.

  6. rorschach says

    Some of us have to work!!

    Btw, if your posts had a time of publishing again(and not just date), it would be easier to tell when stuff is happening…

  7. Skatje Myers says

    You should pop into existing hangouts on G+ more, like Ed does. Or you should invite your daughter to the next one, jeez. D:<

  8. says

    Glad I made it to at least part of the hangout. Next time I’ll come by with more to say!
    P.S.: My wife just told me that our cat peed in my babyseat hat this morning.

  9. says

    Ed told me you are always on way past my bedtime.

    I suppose I could add you to one of mine, but you know us boring old folk.

  10. John Morales says


    rorschach, hover your mouse over the post date — the alt-text is specific.

  11. ChasCPeterson says

    hover your mouse over the post date — the alt-text is specific.

    Thanks, John! I didn’t know that either, and I went looking in vain for a post-time just recently.

  12. says

    The book of folk songs I was talking about is called “The Child Ballads,” so called for the man who collected them, Francis James Child.

    That’s the NPR report. It focuses on how different generations of performers continue to use the book as a source for adaptations. “Scarborough Fair” was adapted from Child’s Ballads.

    The book is hundreds of years old, and was intended to be a literary source for scholars. Thus, Child did not record the melodies, but only the words, and always several different versions of the lyrics. This makes it a source ripe for reinvention and interpretation.

    Anais Mitchell is one of the younger performers featured in the report; she’s released a new album with this other guy, Jefferson Hamer, whom I don’t know.

  13. says

    The author Haley mentioned at the start of the video is Virginia Valian. She does really important and eye-opening work, and is, simply put, the reason I’m a feminist today.

    Here’s an example of her work : . I really think this needs to be popularized a whooole lot more. Among atheists, and among human beings. It may seem slightly dry at first, but there is some amazing theoretical work and data here that I think gets pretty close to the heart of the problem feminists face, in a straightforward and accessible manner.

  14. mobius says

    I like the idea of the Hangout. Could you be a little less impulsive the next time and give us a bit of little more lead time. Say 24 hours. Or even 12.

    Or not. Just saying.

  15. Loqi says

    The topic of hot wings was not investigated thoroughly enough. It warrants more discussion.

  16. ChasCPeterson says

    “The Child Ballads,”

    yeah, “The Book of Children’s Songs” was prety close.

    I kid.

  17. pixelfish says

    Is it sad that made me happy because it was the most I’d ever seen a group of guys all together on the subject?

    (Cuz even in friendly groups like my old roleplaying group or whatnot, it was often hard to discuss that without apologetics or jokiness getting in the way….)

  18. David Marjanović says


    PZ, I need more advance warning! Time zones and stuff! And lack of webcam and G+ account!