Still here? World hasn’t ended?


I thought so. You should know that they have flipped the switch on the Large Hadron Collider, and no disasters yet. Of course, all they’ve done so far is whirl around in circles at near the speed of light, with no big high-energy collisions yet … the gang at Cosmic Variance have been live-blogging the LHC tests, so watch that to see what’s new.

Comments

  1. Swiftsure says

    Will the LHC prove the existence of God? Or will it answer the biggest mystery of all – is it really turtles all the way down?

  2. llewelly says

    It should be obvious that we only think the world hasn’t ended.
    In fact the LHC has transformed us all into strangelets – and this new, strangelet world is NOTHING LIKE the world we lived in less than 24 hours ago.

  3. Holbach says

    Ah crap, I thought we would be looking at the Universe from the edge of a black hole! I hate when some reports refer to finding the “god” particle. Freaking religion has to render everything to a state of dementia.

  4. Geek Extraordinaire says

    Tabloid media has been especially irresponsible yesterday and today, with articles titled “The world is coming to an end” and so on, describing how “experts” have calculated that black holes of such immense mass will be created that the entire Earth will be engulfed. Of course, none of the scientists who know anything about this think this will happen. But, the evening press is what it is, at least in my country. Sad, really.

    That said, I’m extremely excited about the results that may come from the LHC.

  5. says

    Obviously we have been saved by the power of intercessory prayer, faithful people on their knees having preserved us from destruction by scientists who refuse to acknowledge that there are some things man was not meant to know. [Link]

  6. says

    Yes, the Sun no longer rises, instead, the Earth is spheroid and spins along a central axis the solar system central core where an extremely large ball of fusing atoms is located providing light to one half of the planet….

  7. clinteas says

    Surely god would prevent any real dramas happening to his finest creation?
    Wouldnt he intervene if he realized that chimps-with-brains were about to get his masterpiece swallowed in some black hole?
    And if the LHC brings on the Rapture,so what?Wouldnt that make a billion death cultists happy? Who are those people suing CERN i wonder,cant be Christians !
    Oh,and Im so going to pinch the Bible in my hotel room lol,for future references !

  8. Timothy Wood says

    I don’t think the link is working. I’m using Google Chrome so that might be the problem… but I dunno.

  9. Candy says

    Dang it! I was hoping it would bring on Teh Rapture and suck all the wingnuts and ID loonies into another dimension. They’d like that, and so would I.

    But perhaps . . .perhaps . . . the Big Hadron had something to do with our local school board elections yesterday, when three stealth wingnuts whose candidacy was being supported by a troublemaker on the school board were soundly defeated. People came out in droves, as droves is defined in school board election terms, anyway. (At least one of the stealth bombers actually had his or her own kids enrolled in private school, which really tipped their hand and pissed people off.) Or perhaps it influenced Al Franken’s victory! And now its otherworldly influence of peace and prosperity will send McSame/McWorse crashing down to defeat and ignominy come November!

    /dream sequence

    I wish. But I’ll happily settle for all the interesting sciencey stuff to come. I’ve been fascinated by this from the start, although I’m certainly no scientist.

  10. says

    I’ve spent the last week trying to explain to others how it’s safe. It’s amazing that people who have no knowledge of physics are getting worked up because people who have a tiny bit of knowledge of physics are claiming to know better than the experts in physics.

    Excited to see the results, but getting a beam around it is still a great achievement in itself. Go science!

  11. Richard Harris says

    Some may call it, (the Higg’s Boson), the god particle, but I bet, if it shows up, it won’t be anything to do with that fecker Jehovah.

  12. Snitzels says

    Kel, this was the best layperson description I’ve found so far:

    “The gravitational force is so weak that you’d have to wait many, many, many, many, many lifetimes of the universe before one of these things could [get] big enough to even get close to being a problem,” said Huth, professor of physics at Harvard University.

    Now if only personal belief could be trumped by expert knowledge and opinion… Here’s to hoping.

  13. Mr P says

    What really has the fundies upset about the LHC is that if a black hole swallows the earth and we all die then biblical prophesy did not come true and there is no god.

  14. maureen says

    BBC Radio 4 has been doing exceptionally well on this. Programmes in the lead-up, special programmes all day today – sound science and a sense of celebration, live updates and, even, Prof Higgs himself on the lunchtime news.

    Just google “bbc.co.uk/bigbang”

  15. hipparchia says

    OK, so, the real threat of this donut-shaped thingy is that all that quantum uncertainty may lead to switching Barrack Obama’s brain with that of Bristol Palin’s unborn baby.

    Which is as probable as the world ending because of a giant European underground donut.

    Oh what a good day for science.

  16. Trish says

    I’m ticked. There’s only been one tiny beep of this on the news today.

    I only have a tiny bit of knowledge of physics and I claim nothing but a bit of excitement and wonder at what they might learn.

  17. GentlePath says

    This experiement – will it be easier now for us to vibrate to a higher level of consciousness? Or travel through alternate realities to other universes? Actually that’s probably how homeopathy works. The molecules travel through alternate universes (on a string, through the quantum foam) and that’s how they can remember themselves.

    And if those scientists bring on the rapture, will our fillings and artificial knees still get left behind?

    Or perhaps we might start … teaching freakin critical thinking skills. You don’t have to know much about physics to know that the world isn’t going to end because of this experiment. Honestly. I don’t know jack shit about physics but I can type and I’ve heard of google.

    It pisses me off. There’s no excuse for being this dumb. “Voodoo Science” ought to be required reading for every high school student in the US.

  18. says

    The Large Hadron Collider
    Makes theoretical physics applieder.
    It’s a machine for doing proton-smashing experiments at near light speed on an unprecedented scale in,
    And almost infinitely safer than handing control of the US nuclear arsenal to John McCain and Sarah Palin.

    (Eat your heart out, Ogden Nash.)

  19. Wowbagger says

    I’ll only be worried if they start showing footage of a crazy-looking scientist dude – wild, Einstein hair and shabby lab-coat – rubbing his hands together and shouting, ‘Fools! I’ll destroy them all!’

  20. tsg says

    In fact the LHC has transformed us all into strangelets – and this new, strangelet world is NOTHING LIKE the world we lived in less than 24 hours ago.

    Yes. The old universe didn’t have a running LHC in it.

    And it is Tuesday.

  21. Nick Gotts says

    Surely god would prevent any real dramas happening to his finest creation?
    Wouldnt he intervene if he realized that chimps-with-brains were about to get his masterpiece swallowed in some black hole?

    Nah, he’s just got bored, and having the universe destroy itself from within is so much more artistic than just clicking “exit”!

  22. says

    According to the anti-LHC folks, it can take up to 4 years for the mBH’s (micro Black Holes) to destroy the Earth. This is only the beginning.

  23. amphiox says

    #31
    Are we absolutely, absolutely sure that the old universe didn’t have a running LHC somewhere in it?

    Not on earth, of course, but. . . .

  24. Blondin says

    However, some scientists did report sensing “a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced”.

  25. says

    That website reminds me of the old “Ways to destroy the world” page. Thye had a little widget you could put on a website to show you the world’s status. If it was green, the world still existed. Red, and the world had been destroyed. It was rather handy when dealing with bouts of existential angst.

  26. Moggie says

    #34:

    According to the anti-LHC folks, it can take up to 4 years for the mBH’s (micro Black Holes) to destroy the Earth. This is only the beginning.

    And I’ve seen this tied in with the Mayan calendar world-ends-in-2012 woo. *Facepalm*

  27. tsg says

    Are we absolutely, absolutely sure that the old universe didn’t have a running LHC somewhere in it?

    It couldn’t be a new universe if there was, could there? Didn’t think so….

  28. David Marjanović, OM says

    Or will it answer the biggest mystery of all – is it really turtles all the way down?

    Hey! You’re talking about scooping my thesis!!!1!

    According to the anti-LHC folks, it can take up to 4 years for the mBH’s (micro Black Holes) to destroy the Earth. This is only the beginning.

    Right. And Germany’s foremost anti-LHC loon (…who simply doesn’t accept the existence of Hawking radiation, among many other things… he has his own physics) has said 50 years. In other words, he can keep saying he’s right for the rest of his life.

    And then he changed his mind and said 500 years.

    Whatever. We get bombarded with even faster cosmic rays all the time.

  29. David Marjanović, OM says

    And I’ve seen this tied in with the Mayan calendar world-ends-in-2012 woo.

    Well, if McPain get elected (one way or another), it might. As an October Surprise.

  30. poke says

    I’m looking forward to finding evidence for the Higgs boson and supersymmetry so physicists can stop just assuming they’re both true. Then their field can finally be as objective and rigorous as biology!

  31. Richard Harris says

    Jim @ # 43
    For rhyme that’s woefully lacking in meter,
    you find it hard to get somethin’ that’d beat a
    bit of good old McGonagall
    (he of the Bridge o’er the Silvery Tay)
    when the universe, life, & everything could become feck all,
    when they smash those hadron beams any day.

  32. Quiet_Desperation says

    Maybe the world did end, and the afterlife is *exactly* the same as the previous world.

    Geez, that’s a depressing thought. :-(

  33. Ploon says

    Re the “God particle”: I’ve heard it told that the physicist who theorised it originally called it “that goddamned particle!”, but in the popular media it was shortened.

  34. says

    Maybe the world did end…

    Well, I have to say, as apocalypses go, that was pretty underwhelming. Where were the rivers of blood, the magma blasting out of gaping chasms into the air and raining down, setting the city on fire? Where were the winged demons wheeling through the sky? And what about the panic in the streets? And the looting? I was told there’d be looting. Woulda been handy, too… I coulda used a new espresso maker.

    It’s pathetic, really. Poor craftsmanship, that’s all this is. No one’s got pride in their work anymore.

  35. SteveM says

    Maybe the world did end, and the afterlife is *exactly* the same as the previous world.

    According to Laurie Anderson, “Heaven is exactly like where you are right now, only much, much, better.” So, is everything much much better? Drat.

  36. says

    The switch was thown in Switzerland
    And protons zoomed around a bend–
    Across the world, we clasped our hands
    And waited for the world to end.

    The scientists at Fermilab
    Were hoping there was much to learn–
    But true believers everywhere
    Were voicing their concern with CERN

    The particles accelerate:
    When protons smash–what happens then?
    Did CERN just push the “reset” switch,
    To start the cosmos up again?

    The scientists themselves do not,
    For certain, know what happens next–
    But there are some who claim the truth,
    As written in their Holy Text:

    The Lord will come–the end is nigh
    The saved will fly to Jesus’ side
    The sinners will be cast to Hell
    So let the particles collide!

    (Of course, predictions such as this
    Have happened many times before,
    And every time–oh, gee, they’re wrong.

    Congratulations; wrong once more.)

    http://digitalcuttlefish.blogspot.com/2008/09/end-of-world-and-i-feel-fine.html

  37. John C. Randolph says

    And it is Tuesday.

    tsg,

    Something must have happened to breach between potential worlds, because in my world September 10, 2008 is a Wednesday.

    Ao, all that time, money, and effort, and all we get is minor glitch in the calendar?

    What a let-down.

    -jcr

  38. Patricia says

    Excellent catch John!
    Something is screwy here. I changed keyboards thinking it was me. There’s also typo’s all over the threads.

    There is a great disturbance in the farce, it’s Holbach.
    Ha, ha, ha!!!! Never to early to be giddy. ;o)

  39. Dianne says

    Screw the world. Who cares if the world ends or not. The real question is IS THERE A HIGGS BOSON OR ISN’T THERE? I’m kind of hoping it doesn’t exist and the standard model is just wrong, wrong, wrong. But I’ve always been kind of grumpy about physics.

  40. says

    #55: They’re both pretty funny, but you have to scroll down a bit to see the joke on the one.

    #5, #9: You brightened up an otherwise awful morning. Thank you.

    I have no clue about the actual science involved, but I can’t wait to see what they find either.

  41. MikeM says

    I read in a blog yesterday where someone had misspelled “Hadron”, and that this was the “Large Hardon Collider”.

    That really changes the direction of this experiment, I figure.

  42. mayhempix says

    Damn! And I was hoping I wouldn’t have to work today.
    Why won’t a black materialize when you really need one?

  43. Philippe says

    Cuttlefish, Ô Great Cuttlefish!

    I am once again awed by your rhyme.

    Every now and then, I despair about Humanity’s future, and then I see/hear/read something that makes me believe that all is not lost.

    PS: AJMilne@#57 was pretty good too.

  44. Patricia says

    There it goes again!
    to instead of too.

    You may get to drop that KOT Chimpy. We might have a ‘hant’.

  45. Tony Popple says

    The collisions haven’t started yet.

    There is still time to start selling “mini-black hole” insurance. It would be the perfect scam. If nothing happans we make tons of money. If the LHC produces stranglets and black holes, we can tie everything up in litigation until the end of the world.

  46. SteveM says

    Hawkings hopes they don’t find the Higgs.

    I get the impression that he believes they will, but hopes they won’t, because not finding it will be far more interesting. He tends to bet against himself, just to encourage discovery.

  47. ChrisTopher guerra says

    *listens too “black hole sun” by soundgarden*

    maybe if we are lucky the LHC causes a black hole that sucks up god and all of his meathead followers…….

    bahahha

  48. Nerd of Redhead says

    I get the impression that he believes they will, but hopes they won’t, because not finding it will be far more interesting. He tends to bet against himself, just to encourage discovery.

    That was the feeling I got. He bet a smallish amount of money.

  49. Spero Melior says

    The world will end not with a bang, but with a whimper.

    I just thought of that myself. No need to google it, just trust me.

  50. tsg says

    tsg,

    Something must have happened to breach between potential worlds, because in my world September 10, 2008 is a Wednesday.

    Ao, all that time, money, and effort, and all we get is minor glitch in the calendar?

    What a let-down.

    In the New UniverseTM, all the clocks are wrong.

  51. Holbach says

    Patricia @ 63 and 71

    It’s me! I’m hovering at the event horizon of the black hole and directing all sorts of cosmic phenomena at the earth, getting the creotards to believe it’s their phony god coming with the crap Rapture! I wish I could have the black hole suck the whole demented shit pile of them down a worm hole and spit them out in another dimension! “god” particle: tell the black hole this bullshit and it will squeeze you down to a pinpoint to let you know what it “thinks” of that crap idea!

  52. Patricia says

    Ha, ha! I knew it was you stomping the farce somewhere.

    My day is made. The record shop called to let me know two Leon Redbone CD’s came in for me. The Dan Barker book is in too. Hopefully it’ll be better than the last trash I bought.

  53. says

    This was a triumph
    I’m making a note here, huge success
    It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction
    Large Hadron Collider!
    We do what we must because we can
    For the good of all of us
    Except for all the fundies
    Will you all stop whining, there has been no mistake
    Now the sun is shining, why don’t you have some cake
    And our science gets done by a really big gun
    And you people are all still alive

    Don’t be fucking angry
    We’re being so sincere right now
    Even though some of you said you’d kill us
    Nearly sued us to pieces
    And wanted to throw us in a fire
    Your stupid burned, it hurt because
    We’re doing this for your good
    Now these particle trails make a beautiful line
    And all of the details show our results in due time
    So we’re glad we won’t burn
    Think of all the things we’ll learn
    And believe us, you’ll still be alive

    So stop all your bitching
    If you prefer to, stay inside
    Maybe you can go and drink some Kool-Aid
    Buy some from the fundies
    That wasn’t a joke now, by the way
    Anyway, this proton’s great
    It’s so accelerated
    Look at us still talking when there’s science to do
    When I look out there it makes us glad we’re not you
    We’ve experiments to run
    There is research to be done
    And you fundies’ll still be alive
    Though it sucks that you’re all still alive
    So are you glad that you’re all still alive
    So shut up because you’re still alive
    Still alive
    Still alive

  54. Rey Fox says

    And people wonder why scientists are so grumpy. The only way they can get people to notice them is to threaten to destroy the Earth.

    “And it is Tuesday.”

    Oh fuck on a rope. The LHC sucked us all into a time vortex where it is eternally Tuesday. Somebody shoot me.

  55. rpenner says

    The anti-LHC forces confuse the most accepted model for black holes (with Hawking radiation and no expectation of formation at the LHC) with physically modeled 2 TeV black holes which have a natural expectation of Hawking radiation with a child’s toy model of 2 TeV black holes which have a natural expectation of electric charge (in the absence of Hawking radiation) with the bugaboo of 2 TeV uncharged black holes (which did require a new paper to refute). Since the loss of charge mechanism is related to the Hawking radiation, the burden of proof was on the anti-LHC forces to present a physical model where the expectation of neutral, quiet, 2 TeV black holes are possible. A burden they never accepted because they aren’t physicsists of any description but mere concern trolls.

    They have not done this and the 2008 Giddings & Magano paper removed such bugaboos from the table.

    http://lsag.web.cern.ch/lsag/CERN-PH-TH_2008-025.pdf

    This aphysical claptrap pushed on the popular media by concern trolls has already cost human life. End it now, Luddite crackpots.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26641652/

  56. says

    Do biologist get experiment envy? Physicists get the LHC, astronomers get the Hubble, roboticists get robots. Biologist get dead animals in jars. No respect I tell ya.

  57. Patricia says

    Woo-Hooo!
    End it now, Luddite crackpots.

    Yeah! That’s tellin’ em. I’m sooo stealing that for a t-shirt.

  58. Sili says

    So … if the Large Hadron Collider looks for the Higgs boson, does the Large Hardon Collider look for the Higgs Bosom?

    And if it does, how does mrs Higgs feel about that?

  59. Holbach says

    Patricia @ 86

    Good company with Leon Redbone! Sure hope the Dan Barker book doesn’t sour into horse’s apples also! Keep an eye on Katherine; she’s getting a little too close to the Large Hadron Collider and is getting frisky with more garbage to throw at us.

  60. Patricia says

    Holbach – Got Leon going right now. Bliss! The man simply cannot crack a note, from yodeling to whistling.
    The two I picked up are ‘Champagne Charlie’ and ‘On the Track’.
    Being an FFRF member, at least if I think Barkers book stinks I can call in and tell him so. ;)

  61. says

    I’ve written a computer program that picks a song a piece of music completely at random from my hard drive (out of over 3,000 albums).

    Just now after reading this thread, I clicked “play” on the PC.

    So what does the computer decide to play?

    Pop goes the World by Men Without Hats

    I’m not making this up – honest! (and I didn’t even know that song was on my hard drive either…)

  62. Patricia says

    Holbach – It’s #6 on Champagne Charlie. Ain’t misbehavin, and Polly Wolly Doodle are on On the Track. :)

    Looks like that horrible troll poor Frog hooked last night is gone. Llurra got scriptured to death in two posts. Cripes, troll chow must not have any vitamins in it. Sure a puny lot here of late. Can’t even bait em’ with crackers.

  63. Holbach says

    Katherine @ 104

    One person’s garbage is another person’s trash? Wait, that did not come out the right way. Help me out here with another parody.

  64. Holbach says

    Patricia @ 103

    Thanks for the tracks info on Leon.
    Science is our forte here, and eviscerating religious trolls is an adjunct, but as you say, we haven’t had some choice ones lately, and if we don’t hone our cutting skills we will become dull and not up to par with them. Perhaps we should shut down for a while and give eveyone a breather and return in Autumn. Or, maybe Donahue and his demented catholic hordes will be enboldened and take a stab at us here and try to smear us with his catholic brand of pathetic blogging. Sure would love to see that moron try to crack the wall of solid rationalism. He’ll be so frustrated with inability to soften us up, that he’ll retreat behind a wall of crackers.

  65. Patricia says

    Holbach – Hop on over to the new thread Dinesh and Allah showed up. *pfffft* The Farce is with us again!

  66. eddie says

    I followed the link to the charlesdarwin blog and to his source in a telegraph article, and was rewarded in the comment section by awesome Poe’y goodness:

    Hi All.
    The Big bang is itself a wild wild theory; in fact I would state it to be total hogwash. That being the case then this monster of a machine is also nothing to do with re-creating a big bang.
    So What the hell is it?
    When it comes to HAARP, we are sold the lie, again by those who control it, which includes scientist’s. On what grounds people place scientist’s at the top of the altruistic ladder is beyond me.

    HAARP is the most dangerous weapon and is in the hands of the sick people, i.e. the Inner City of London banking Cartel, and is used to create famine, Earthquake and death. They are using HAARP to blackmail the world into submission to the will of the Zionist New World Order. HAARP is the main reason for chemtrails which act as a mirror to bounce back the HAARP waves and the media are deadly silent, which would be what David Rockefeller keeps thanking them for.

    This weapon has been operational in its current form since 1995, just think back to all the disasters we have suffered in the world since that time, Earthquakes, Tsunami, great floods, sea surges, extreme Hurricanes, all the end product of HAARP which is slowly but surely de-populating the planet and you have no clue of this because the media stay well clear.
    So I put forward the fact that the particle Accelerator is nothing of the sort, it is yet another secret hi tech toy to what ends I do not know, but you can bet your life it will be used against the populations of the world by those controlling the New World Order the Zionist’s, or SION-ists.
    The Cyprus HAARP weapon is currently being used against the Middle East countries to lower the frequencies which creates depression and anger, is it any wonder there is so much pain and hatred in that area.

    We have to face facts people, we are ill informed when it comes to the technology in the hands of the psychopaths, which makes sense given they are the ones for whom we depend on for the information. HAARP is a secret weapon used for secret but deadly aims, why one trusts these people that the Particle Accelerator is a particle accelerator, is quite ridicules.

    To gain a real in depth insight to HAARP go to Lifeinthemix.co.uk and click page HAARP Means Death, and be prepared to be completely and utterly astounded by the evil of the banking cartel in the Inner City of London…
    Then begin to worry in relation to what the monster under Switzerland really is…

    See. It all fits.

  67. Primus says

    A creotard felt the need to call into one of my local radio stations to whine that the LHC was just another futile attempt by science to prove evolution. She then proceeded to crap on about talking monkeys. Hmm, particle accelerators to talking monkeys…when will these morons stop conflating cosmology with evolution?

  68. hje says

    We’ve been warned before!

    Dr. Egon Spengler: Don’t cross the streams.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
    Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: I’m fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, “bad”?
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
    Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That’s bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

  69. David Marjanović, OM says

    Well, for some people the world has ended…

    http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/10end.htm

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26641652/

    Man.

    That needs to be publicized. The anti-LHC loons are responsible for a death.

    Every now and then, I despair about Humanity’s future, and then I see/hear/read something that makes me believe that all is not lost.

    Fool!

    Cuttlefish is not human.

    was rewarded in the comment section by awesome Poe’y goodness:

    No, this moron is completely serious. He’s not even original except for adding the LHC.

    heres a pole to crash
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26568553/

    Done.

  70. says

    Someone committed suicide over the chance they would die?!? This world has really gone insane, or at the very least insanity is more publicised than ever before.

  71. says

    my mom just asked me if i’d heard anything about “that big underground machine”, and then asked if it might have had anything to do with that seaquake in indonesia.

    after intuiting that she was referring to the supercollider, i told her that if she actually knew how the thing worked, she wouldn’t be asking that question.

    her reply: “no, i don’t know how it works.”

    she obviously gets her news from the same reputable source as the fellow fixated on haarp. her science knowledge could fit in a thimble, but, bless her heart, she’s never wrong — in her own mind. so her admission was actually a once-a-year event! looks like the supercollider’s already paying off big dividends.

  72. JohnnieCanuck, FCD says

    Patricia

    I’d like to express my gratitude to you for pointing me to Leon Redbone on YouTube last week. Somehow I had never come across him before.

    What a wonderful voice. Amazing whistling and guitar, too.

    Thanks

  73. Martin_z says

    England beat Croatia 4-1 last night, against all the predictions. (That’s at “soccer”, for you lot across the pond). The LHC has obviously bounced us through a black hole into a parallel universe where England are actually good at football.

  74. johannes says

    I am old enough to remember times when you had to believe that anti-science crap (or at least had to pretend that you believed it) to be accepted as properly middle-class, or properly white. Nowadays, those people that think supercolliders, HAARP or cable tv are actually doomsday machines are generally considered kooks, even among the ‘Stuff White People Like’ community. Sometimes there IS progress.

  75. Katkinkate says

    Darth Wader @ 94
    “Do biologist get experiment envy? Physicists get the LHC, astronomers get the Hubble, roboticists get robots. Biologist get dead animals in jars. No respect I tell ya.”

    Physicists, astronomers and roboticists have to beg harder for lots more money and share their toys with other physicists, et al. Biologists get their own animals in jars to work on by themselves and the animals are cheaper, so they get more results/$. Unless they are geneticists. Those sequence machines can be exy.