Scalzi has to go to the Creation Mausoleum!


Everyone did good: they met Scalzi’s challenge and then some, so now he has to go spend $20 and tour the horrid little place.

This will chap Ken Ham’s buns, too. Sure, he’ll have to buy a ticket, but he also raised $5,118.36 all of which will be donated to Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. Good deal!

Comments

  1. says

    I wonder if Ken Ham knows about any of this. I’d love to see his face at the revelation that Scalzi managed to offset his trip by donating 256 times the admission price of Ham’s Folly to Americans United to the Separation of Church and State.

    Amazing, really.

  2. says

    On the one tentacle, it’s tempting to alert Mr. Hamm of the upcoming visit, to make him cringe.

    OTOT, there’s the risk of Hamm barring Scalzi from the place on some “security” pretext, which would deny us the pleasure of the field trip report.

  3. says

    My first thought on reading this was that he should pay in bills with various quotes written on them. So that later when they were used to give back change…

  4. says

    Wouldn’t denying Scalzi entrance into the Fauxseum be considered denying him the supposed word of god? And therefore also a sin against Hamm? Oh, I love irony.

  5. rob says

    Denying him access would be the best thing we could hope for. It would probably multiply be 100 the number of people that know that he is even going, and garner all kinds of bad press for the museum.

  6. CalGeorge says

    Can we send Scalzi to PBS?

    Apparently, they’re going to do a show called “Wall of Separation” this month.

    It’s a production of Boulevard Pictures.

    Via Americans United for the Separation of Curch and State, some info on the film company’s president:

    We at Americans United did a little research on Boulevard Pictures, and here’s what we found. Although the Web site for the film company mentions no religious or political agenda, its president is Jack Hafer, an evangelical Christian who told one interviewer that Christians have an obligation to “shape the culture” and “spread the faith.” He urged Christian young people to go into the arts as “kingdom-spreaders” and as “a form of missionary service.”

    http://blog.au.org/2007/06/08/pbs-revelation-networks-wall-of-separation-has-religious-right-genesis/

    If you are looking for some hardcore religious bias later this month, you know where to go.

    Atheism bad!

  7. wrg says

    Discrimination suits against churches for excluding people? That’ll be quite a surprise. Vocal American religious groups have been encouraging discrimination in public policy against minority groups, much less ideologically opposed individuals. I’ve yet to hear of these churches being taken to court for it.

    Sure, the Creation Museum may be billing itself as an institution of (pseudo)science rather than a church, but creationists are always ready to hide behind religious privilege when it’s convenient.

    Besides, they can probably find rock-solid grounds to exclude Scalzi, since for all we know he may well have Ammonite or Moabite ancestry.

  8. CalGeorge says

    The show’s writer is Brian Godawa.

    He’s a Christian film writer and critic.

    Working on a film called Monkey Trial.

  9. Mats says

    Always good to see unguided evolutionists making so much publicity for the Creatiom Museum. Free of cost!

    Keep up the good job.

  10. CalGeorge says

    Godawa called Brokeback Mountain a “brilliant piece of subversive homosexual propaganda.”

    And he has said:

    “Society SHOULD suppress immoral behavior and it does so on many fronts. So if homosexualism is immoral, then yes, it should be suppressed, just like child molesting, its ugly step-brother hidden in the closet, just like adultery, just like promiscuity.”

    He said of Passion Christ: “Don’t go by yourself, get a group of friends. And don’t go just once, go twice.”

    Sources for the quotes: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/browse_thread/thread/51fd44b7e4ed49bb/5c0cc682f4b70a9d

  11. Ex-drone says

    This will chap Ken Ham’s buns, too.

    Since Ham was able to scam desperate Flintstones fans for $27M, I don’t think he’ll be impressed that Scalzi came up with $5K. However, now we know that the Board of Directors of the Flintstone Museum are syphoning off that capital through exorbitant salaries, Ham is probably bugged that he won’t be able to get his hands on the Scalzi’s donations.

  12. Caledonian says

    If they banned him without reason, would there not be grounds for a discrimination suit against the church?

    The museum is – correct me if I’m wrong on this – a private one, even if it’s run by a church. It can ban and exclude whatever private individuals it wishes. If they’re including it as part of a church (doubtful, but maybe the law really is that dumb) then they probably need to give the public access for a certain amount of time per unit time, but I’m sure they could easily come up with a pretext to keep him out.

    Freedom: it’s not just for the people you agree with.

  13. David Marjanović says

    since for all we know he may well have Ammonite […] ancestry.

    A cephalopod! A cephalopod!

  14. David Marjanović says

    since for all we know he may well have Ammonite […] ancestry.

    A cephalopod! A cephalopod!

  15. David Marjanović says

    Always good to see unguided evolutionists making so much publicity for the Creatiom Museum. Free of cost!

    Sure. We love to share a good joke.

  16. David Marjanović says

    Always good to see unguided evolutionists making so much publicity for the Creatiom Museum. Free of cost!

    Sure. We love to share a good joke.

  17. says

    Always good to see unguided evolutionists making so much publicity for the Creatiom Museum. Free of cost!

    Keep up the good job.

    Posted by: Mats

    Poor Mats. You’ll take anything as a compliment won’t you? It’s like calling a dog a useless, turd-eating putz, and so long as you speak in a soothing voice and rattle some treats, its tail will wag, and it will feel happy and loved.

  18. says

    I enjoy the menancing large theropod foot that smashes down in their “commercial”, I suppose it’s intended to be post-Fall of Man. I do hope someone sneaks a video camera, I’d love to make the trip myself, but the cost of travelling versus more useful wastes of money and necessary expenses would have it that I must deny myself the pleasure.

  19. JohnnieCanuck, FCD says

    Did the Moabites also originate during the Late Silurian to Early Devonian?

  20. Chinchillazilla says

    #16:

    Godawa called Brokeback Mountain a “brilliant piece of subversive homosexual propaganda.”

    I called it “hot. Oh, and it had a good story.”

    But I’m a teenage girl, so what would I know?

  21. Kseniya says

    Always good to see unguided evolutionists making so much publicity for the Creatiom Museum.

    You mean Scalzi’s not being given a guided tour? I’m outraged!

  22. tony says

    Apparently *every* tour is guided…. but only for the brainwashed IDiots who believe…

    Skeptics need to find their own way (SOP)

  23. says

    In case anyone cares, I visited the creation museum a couple of weeks ago, and took a bunch of pictures, starting here. I haven’t had a chance to do a proper write-up yet.