My reaction is similar. However, one of the most consistent areas of friction in my marriage is my correcting my wife over things like this. Sometimes it truly is best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Perhaps we simply fail to know the context. If the question was “how many places does United go?” and the options were a.) less than 3 b.) 284 and c.) more than 370, then the exact answer is “c” — more than 370.
Maybe. I don’t know.
At least the ad didn’t say “We’re going place’s.”
(But hey — shouldn’t there have been a comma in there?)
Reminds me of a line from The HitchHiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, where it talks about a house with proportions that “more or less exactly failed to please the eye”.
There’s also an ad for high-speed internet that features a golfer (Jason Dufner) that goes something like “our speeds are 66 times higher than theirs. If Jason golfed at their speed, it would turn par 4s into par 400s…”
This is like those ads you get for sales at stores that say “Monday only! Save up to 15% or more!” I’m pretty sure it’s impossible to get more vague than that.
People who misuse words like that literally make my head explode.
I know this community takes real life threats very seriously, but on this occasion I just don’t care: I am going to hunt you down and give you such a glare. Like, the worst.
There’s also an ad for high-speed internet that features a golfer (Jason Dufner) that goes something like “our speeds are 66 times higher than theirs. If Jason golfed at their speed, it would turn par 4s into par 400s…”
Um…no. I’m pretty sure that 4×66 isn’t 400.
*head-tilts at the stupid*
But… it doesn’t even matter how fast you play golf! You could take an hour on every hole, and you’d get exactly the same score. (Well, you might have some trouble finishing the back nine in the dark, and you’d better let the folks behind you play through lest they run you over with a golf cart, but you know what I mean.)
And anyway, the phrase “par [whatever]” doesn’t even refer to the performance of the player. It’s a characteristic of the hole, mostly the distance from tee to flag. (A par 400 hole would be about four and a half miles long, by the way.)
Bad arithmetic isn’t even close to the dumbest thing in that ad…
On the bottle of Listerine in my bathroom is the marketing claim “Deeper clean than brushing alone!” That claim is indistinguishable from saying “Using this product is, to an unquantified degree, better than not using it”. That is, while perhaps factual, the weakest possible endorsement one can make.
This is like those ads you get for sales at stores that say “Monday only! Save up to 15% or more!” I’m pretty sure it’s impossible to get more vague than that.
It’s possible to get SLIGHTLY more vague, since that, at least, eliminates the possibility of saving exactly 15%. Still, being the equivalent of “You’ll save something other than 15%!” doesn’t seem like the most glowing endorsement ever.
Next philosophical question: Which is the better place to shop at, the store that promises you won’t save 15%, or the store that promises you won’t save 25%?
***
Holms
I know this community takes real life threats very seriously, but on this occasion I just don’t care: I am going to hunt you down and give you such a glare. Like, the worst.
Glare all you want! I’ll snark more!
***
Nathair
And that’s true irregardless of the situation!
GAH! I hate that one!
I’d like to take the people who use “irregardless” and gather them all in a group so that I could completely decimate them!
@24, actually there is a still weaker endorsement: the widely-used “parity claim”, as in “No other detergent cleans better!” Said with sufficient verve and enthusiasm it sounds like it means something other than “This product sucks the exact same amount as its competitors”.
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lurker in a strange land
December 13, 2012 at 9:05 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
You want them to be .. more exact?
Sorry. Couldn’t resist.
maxdwolf
December 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I wasn’t bothered about this ad because I didn’t know about it. ‘Til now. Thanks.
johnbrown
December 13, 2012 at 9:25 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
My reaction is similar. However, one of the most consistent areas of friction in my marriage is my correcting my wife over things like this. Sometimes it truly is best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Sastra
December 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Perhaps we simply fail to know the context. If the question was “how many places does United go?” and the options were a.) less than 3 b.) 284 and c.) more than 370, then the exact answer is “c” — more than 370.
Maybe. I don’t know.
At least the ad didn’t say “We’re going place’s.”
(But hey — shouldn’t there have been a comma in there?)
Pierce R. Butler
December 13, 2012 at 10:14 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
By major airline scheduling standards, that is exact…
miller
December 13, 2012 at 10:18 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Reminds me of a line from The HitchHiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, where it talks about a house with proportions that “more or less exactly failed to please the eye”.
w1znerd
December 13, 2012 at 10:33 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
It could be worse: “Up to 370, or even more!”
suttkus
December 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
People who misuse words like that literally make my head explode.
Kevin
December 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Hilarious.
There’s also an ad for high-speed internet that features a golfer (Jason Dufner) that goes something like “our speeds are 66 times higher than theirs. If Jason golfed at their speed, it would turn par 4s into par 400s…”
Um…no. I’m pretty sure that 4×66 isn’t 400.
Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)
December 13, 2012 at 11:08 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Wow, that’s so precise it narrows it down to the entire set of integers greater than 370.
alt3
December 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
This is like those ads you get for sales at stores that say “Monday only! Save up to 15% or more!” I’m pretty sure it’s impossible to get more vague than that.
Scr... Archivist
December 13, 2012 at 11:43 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
The airline is telling us that more than 370 of their destinations will eventually be exact places. For now, they’ll just land somewhere nearby.
Gregory in Seattle
December 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Is the ad annoying? I would give it a definite maybe.
hyperdeath
December 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
It could be like the instructions for school chemistry experiments. “Measure exactly about 100 grams of sodium fluoroacetate…”
nora
December 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Suttkus – you beat me to it.
fullyladenswallow
December 13, 2012 at 2:30 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
What? You want advertising to be truthful AND precise?
Holms
December 13, 2012 at 6:53 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I know this community takes real life threats very seriously, but on this occasion I just don’t care: I am going to hunt you down and give you such a glare. Like, the worst.
Holms
December 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Oh and while we’re on speech idioms that shit me, listen up America:
“I could care less” must never be said again. Oh and “I’ll write you” (and related forms) is not a complete sentence!
RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGHHHHHHHHHHH
sergiolira
December 13, 2012 at 7:53 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Lol well at least we don’t have to here them scream confused phrases like that’s at us with the new volume restrictions
Robert B.
December 13, 2012 at 8:43 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
*head-tilts at the stupid*
But… it doesn’t even matter how fast you play golf! You could take an hour on every hole, and you’d get exactly the same score. (Well, you might have some trouble finishing the back nine in the dark, and you’d better let the folks behind you play through lest they run you over with a golf cart, but you know what I mean.)
And anyway, the phrase “par [whatever]” doesn’t even refer to the performance of the player. It’s a characteristic of the hole, mostly the distance from tee to flag. (A par 400 hole would be about four and a half miles long, by the way.)
Bad arithmetic isn’t even close to the dumbest thing in that ad…
F [disappearing]
December 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I used to use the phrase “approximately exactly” in a joking fashion. These people are serious.
Synfandel
December 14, 2012 at 6:48 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
The currently fashionable version of the slogan would be:
We’re. Going. Places.
ajb47
December 14, 2012 at 7:06 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
That’s up there with the car insurance ads where “People who switched saved an average of $300 or more.”
ethanmyerson
December 14, 2012 at 8:51 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
On the bottle of Listerine in my bathroom is the marketing claim “Deeper clean than brushing alone!” That claim is indistinguishable from saying “Using this product is, to an unquantified degree, better than not using it”. That is, while perhaps factual, the weakest possible endorsement one can make.
Nathair
December 14, 2012 at 8:53 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
And that’s true irregardless of the situation!
suttkus
December 14, 2012 at 9:25 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
alt3
It’s possible to get SLIGHTLY more vague, since that, at least, eliminates the possibility of saving exactly 15%. Still, being the equivalent of “You’ll save something other than 15%!” doesn’t seem like the most glowing endorsement ever.
Next philosophical question: Which is the better place to shop at, the store that promises you won’t save 15%, or the store that promises you won’t save 25%?
***
Holms
Glare all you want! I’ll snark more!
***
Nathair
GAH! I hate that one!
I’d like to take the people who use “irregardless” and gather them all in a group so that I could completely decimate them!
busterggi
December 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Probably go to more than 369 places exactly too. Also 368, 367, 366…
Aw heck, its blue though and that’s my favorite color so I’ll let it slide.
sparks
December 14, 2012 at 10:20 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
There is an unlimitless supply of the stoopidz in advertising.
Um………….what?
ethanmyerson
December 14, 2012 at 10:21 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
You should consider doing more damage than merely decimating them.
Joey Maloney
December 15, 2012 at 6:50 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
@24, actually there is a still weaker endorsement: the widely-used “parity claim”, as in “No other detergent cleans better!” Said with sufficient verve and enthusiasm it sounds like it means something other than “This product sucks the exact same amount as its competitors”.
suttkus
December 15, 2012 at 3:52 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
@29: Um, yes, that would be the joke. Misusing a word to complain about people misusing words… sort of the running theme of the comments here.
John Horstman
December 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Ow ow ow; damn you all to… hmm… Ah! Damn you all to Riyadh. (Saudi Arabia is basically atheist hell, right?)
suttkus
December 16, 2012 at 4:47 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I don’t know where atheist hell is, but at least we know about secular heaven.
http://dresdencodak.com/2005/11/29/secular-heaven/
(Dresden Codak is a surreal webcomic, but one of my favorites. It is extremely weird, but if you like that sort of thing, this is the sort of thing you’ll love.)
Georgina Smyth
December 18, 2012 at 5:46 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Definite sign of lower standards of literacy and erudition.
They meant: to be explicit
shouldbeworking
December 19, 2012 at 6:07 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
That describes how many places they sent my luggage last time I flew with them.