I’m including this in another post, but I think it’s useful and I’m using it now. It’s rhetoric that I’ve settled on and seems useful.
“A riot is a kind of protest, it’s reciprocal behavior in a culture where there’s a broken social contract relative to the criminal justice system.”
Martin Luther King Jr. is the inspiration. I just like to have more than one way of saying something and I really like the usefulness of “social contract” here.
StevoR says
Also MLK :
Source : https://theweek.com/speedreads/917022/riot-language-unheard-martin-luther-king-jr-explained-53-years-ago
StevoR says
PS I am a white privileged, fairly sheltered and fortunate Australian bystander and reading and seeing and hearing about what African Americans are experiencing makes me feel furious, helpless and upset. I can only begin to imagine what it must be like to live through and constantly ex[perience things as they do.
I can understand why African Americans would riot and they have every reason to be far more angry than almost all of them seem to me to be.
They say that Black People should ask nicely and take it slow. Being saying that since Nina Simone sang about it in ‘Mississippi Goddam’ back in 1964. ( Hear. Listen : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ25-U3jNWM)
Well, MLK protested peacefully and they murdered him.
Colin Kaepernick took a knee and they called him an SOB, got him fired and refused to listen.
George Floyd said “please!” no less than fourteen times (by my count) in the 9 minutes he lay helpless on the ground as they choked the life out of him.
I’d say that approach has been tried and failed. If only those in power had listened and acted before.
John Morales says
You may find this informative, particularly chapter 2: https://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/OSNC.pdf
John Morales says
StevoR, look closer to home. We incarcerate Aboriginal people four times as much (in proportion to the population) as the USA does its blacks. And not one copper — ever — has been charged for any of the deaths in custody.
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite says
Is there anything in particular that you think will be useful?
I’m trying to point out that the violence were experiencing is justified at the moment. It’s not that I want to ignore non-violence, it’s that I’m not quite sure how to help there beyond calling out violence against peaceful protestors and attacking bigoted conflation of peaceful protestors with rioters.
John Morales says
Sorry, Brony. I lack the inclination or dedication for activism, and I haven’t carefully perused the document, it just came to mind because you mentioned the social contract aspect. That said, the section on propaganda was informative for me, it’s got a good classification IMO, and that seems to me to be your own inclination.
StevoR says
@ John Morales : Yes. Australia’s record of ongoing mistretament of our First Peoples is absolutely appalling. 432 Indigenous deaths in custody since a Royal Commission into it in 1991 and no cops charged is but one example. Yes, we also have lots of appalling police brutality directed against Indigenous People here too such as this recent incident :
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/03/nsw-police-minister-elliott-horrified-indigenous-teens-language-slammed-gladys-berejiklian
WARNING : Police brutality video and references, swearing.
FWIW. I was at the Black Lives Rally in Adelaide yesterday to oppose all those things – home and abroad.
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite says
No problem. I’ll look at the part you mentioned. It could be useful, it’s just that I’m hitting a saturation point where I can do what I’m doing but shoving something new into my awareness might have to wait.
In the meantime it could be useful to someone else.
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Car Games says
Reciprocity and social contracts are two concepts that are often discussed in the context of ethics and philosophy.
Reciprocity refers to the idea that people should treat others as they would like to be treated themselves. This concept is often referred to as the “golden rule” and is found in many different cultures and religions around the world .
Social contracts are agreements between individuals or groups that define the terms of their relationship. These contracts can be formal or informal and can cover a wide range of topics, from business deals to personal relationships .
In general, social contracts are based on the idea that people have certain rights and responsibilities when they interact with others. These rights and responsibilities can vary depending on the context of the relationship, but they are generally designed to ensure that everyone is treated fairly and with respect .
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