Just ask Doug Wilson.
“If Kamala [Harris] had won the presidency, there would have been basically zero evangelicals in the White House administration,” Wilson said. “And although Donald Trump is not an evangelical by any stretch … his administration is full of them.”
Doug has something in common with Richard Dawkins.
“So probably the best illustration of this would be church bells? Yes. Minarets? No,” he said.
Why?
“Because, the public space would belong to Christ,” he added.
He also doesn’t want women to vote, let alone run for high office.
Wilson also wants to repeal women’s right to vote. When asked why, he was quick to respond.
“Because it’s a good idea,” he said, adding that he wants it replaced with household voting, with women only voting if they are the head of their household.
I voted for Kamala Harris. It’s nice that a pig like Doug Wilson is reassuring me that my vote was righteous.
NPR has a short video clip of the interview with him. At the end of it, the interviewer asks him about LGBTQ+ rights, to clarify that he wants to make relationships illegal. He dodges the question and replies that he’s okay with them talking and saying whatever they want but he doesn’t want any legal protections for them.
Sure, sounds great. You can say whatever you want, but people who don’t understand you and don’t like you are in charge of how you can act, even in the most private parts of your life. You first, you shitty wannabe theocrat. You can say whatever you want but I’ll decide whether you get to act on any of it and approve all your relationships. What a farce this guy is, and the full interview headline talks about how he’s becoming more mainstream. Can’t be bothered to waste my time on anything that obviously stupid and wrongheaded.
I’m no Nostradamus, but I feel this thread will take a sudden turn, probably within the first 10 comments. A familiar pattern will emerge. The question is which faction strikes first. 3…2…1…
Back in the 70s and 80s, I was growing up in the town where Doug started his cult, and I’ve seen the damage he’s done there over the decades. He pretty much split that town apart, and it never really recovered from it. I still go out there to visit relatives and friends from school. We always joked that our town was a little oasis between the Neo-Nazis to the north of us, and the Mormons to the south. Then this wanker comes along.
Needless to say, I have loathed this wretched excuse for a human for most all of my life.
He looks like someone who enjoys making other people miserable.
Is this Hegseth’s guru, or is he a different kook?
There might be an advantage to household voting: Mormons, Quiverfull, and other similar idiot households only get one vote.
He wants the government to seize all the churches, make em public, then give the land away to a for’ner from Palestine!? /s
birgerjohanson @ #5 — Yep, Doug and Pete are two peas in the urinal. Who knows, perhaps Doug has a tattoo similar to Pete’s.
I heard that piece of shit on MPR, yesterday? Monday? same interview Lanir mentions I assume. He doesn’t sound like a wacko. He sounds very reasonable. But. The shit he says is odious as hell.
Yes, we held our noses and voted for kamala. But, please, no one give her any ideas about running for office again. I would like to see someone of good character, like AOC, or Jamie Raskin be president.
tRUMP, the murderous felon, and all his malicious magat cockroaches make me both emotionally and physically ill.
Ok, I am pleased to say my prediction failed to come true within the first 10 comments.
Hemi @11…
Now I’m curious what your predictions were.
Doug Wilson is a good reason for atheism, If God really exists would he really tolerate someone like Wilson? If He does, He is not one that I would consider worthy of worship.
What? I don’t follow your supposed inference.
It. No sex, because sex is about procreation.
And you for fucking sure CAPITALISED the assigned gender pronoun.
BTW, atheism doesn’t need reasons, neither good nor bad. It is the default state.
What needs some reason is goddism. Burden of proof!
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drewl, reasons presumably included StevoR. Since this post echoes that stance.
(If one is a habitué, one knows)
Probably about whether StevoR or myself would take the bait. Against all odds, it didn’t happen that soon.
Give it time, though. One of us is sitting on one’s thumbs just raring to go.
@^
Indeed my reaction to this post was that PZ’s just blatantly trolling the obsessive one. X-D
I have to admit that if we’re talking about deities and their general worth I long ago realized that I respected other people, even some religious ones, far more than I respected the petty little gods many of them wanted me to suppose they worshipped.
The bar is higher, you see, for authority figures. And whatever power a being supposedly has it is never the power to command respect. That doesn’t come from power. It comes from understanding and connection. Most of these gods were created when mystery cults were thought to be quite impressive. You don’t understand how my god can be two contradictory things at once? Haha, gotcha! Your confusion means you are a lesser creature who cannot understand my (deliberately bewildering) god! But human culture has grown a bit. Now believing contradictory things means you’re either a fool who’s too easily impressed by your own BS or you’re an average pawn for a political party.
@ 16. Silentbob : So trolling you then?
To post here :
PZ is of course spot on here.
Not a day goes by that it doesn’t become clearer to (almost?) everyone how much better the world would be had Kamala become POTUS instead of Trump.
@ Hemidactylus (& others too I guess) : Okay, I might be a bit predictable but am I wrong?
Is it wrong to try and hold accountable as much as I can those people – incl one here – who did everything they could to make our world so much horrendously worse and who are thereby indirectly but obviously responsible for so many millions of needless deaths and so much incalculable human suffering and pain and torment?
The very least such disgraceful excuses for people could do is admit they got it wrong, apologise and do anything and everything they can do to make amends now. But some refuse even that barest, inadequate beyond superlatives minimum.
Should we just forget about what they did and let it go given its consequences and the magnitude of the impact of their words and actions on our entire shared pale blue dot? Should we allow the same mistake to be made yet again that has already proven so utterly catastrophic at least three times over? (Gore, HRC, Kamala / Nader, Bernie & Stein, Stein & West.)
NO. No we should not. They shouldn’t be allowed to getaway with it and we must NEVER allow even the advocating for repeating the third party spoiler error ever again. There needs to be zero tolerance for it and them. Unity behind the Democratic party and its nominee must be the way.
It’s is obsessive and ridiculously hyperbolic and ideological, but it’s only wrong if considered a factual claim, and given it is clearly opinion and no more, it can’t be wrong unless you are lying about your opinion.
To many of us, it seems like pointless pestering.
@ ^ John Morales : It is NOT pointless or pestering.
There are a couple of key points I try to accomplish here – holding evil accountable as much as I can and specifically NOT letting the Trump enabling bad faith troll “beholder” get away with their years long – and still continuing – campaign of helping and enabling the vey worst of the worst in USoA politics or let anyone remain ignorant of what they did by attacking only the relatively left wing & progressive of the two USoA parties. Reminding everyone here of the bad faith and unreliability of that troll.
Also doing everything possible to see that there is never again a repeat of the globally catastrophic mistake of third party spoilers like Nader, Stein and West spoilers inflicting the wort evil of USoA politics on the entire planet.
In addition there’s always the admittedly extremely faint hope that the troll might be forced to see reason , acknowledge and accept the reality of what they did, apologise and change their behaviour accordingly.
PS. Nor is it “hyperbole” – if anything I am actually understated in the impact of the Trump tyranny that the bad faith troll Beholder worked so hard for so many years to inflict on us all and is still supporting.
What part of “To many of us, it seems like pointless pestering.” confused you?
I’m sure you imagine you have a virtuous duty to pester another commenter, pointlessly and idiotically as it may be.
I am informing you of how people without your obsession perceive things, is all.
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Look: you literally asked, and so I answered. If you don’t want an answer, perhaps don’t ask.
@ ^ John Morales : Fair enough. I’m also just informing you and others here of why I am doing this and what I hope I can achieve and that it is NOT merely “pointless pestering.”
Nope. Why you imagine you are not doing why you are doing.
Look: the election was November 5, 2024.
Today is 13 July 2026.
(1) Nothing written after the election could affect the election; and
(2) If you seriously imagine a few comments on this blog in any way affected the result, you are, um, DELUSIONAL.
There is nothing you can achieve, other than being a pest and crying wolf endlessly.
Bah.