It’s the confidence, stupid


I ran across this ridiculous comment, and it struck me that the interesting thing isn’t that Joseph Martin is outright wrong, but that he presents his stupid ideas with such absolute confidence.

Men, even today, would rather marry a virgin than not, but a virgin woman today is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. The reason why men would indeed prefer to marry a virgin woman is because when a virgin bride marries a man, a woman’s vagina is molded to the man to whom she married, and that is a virgin brides vagina is becomes a mold to her man’s penis, and if a woman then cheats on her husband, the husband of a virgin bride then knows her wife has cheated on him because that mold has been broken, lol. Although this is true, women can also do vagina exercises that strengthen their vagina muscles, and allow a women to then control her vagina in pleasing any man she may lay with, and if a woman trains and maintains the muscles in her vagina, she can then even pick up a pencil with her vagina from just having control of the muscles in her vagina, lol, and when a woman has such control of her vagina muscles, can fool any man with regards to her faithfulness to him.

Vaginas don’t “mold” themselves to a penis. They’re flexible and muscular, and they don’t conform permanently to the first object that enters them; they also don’t evert themselves to grasp things. This series of assertions is written by a man who has never been intimate with a woman.

The weird thing is the certainty. He has to know that he has no direct personal information about the subject, yet he goes ahead and says it in public. There’s a psychopathy here that I think is incredibly common — we live in a country tainted by the collective sin of certainty that people use to make decisions about everything, politics, religion, relationships, whatever. Have you noticed that this is Donald Trump strategy? Just state half-assed nonsense with blithe confidence, and then he finds willing believers who will follow him without question, simply because he said something they want to hear.

Comments

  1. mastmaker says

    What’s so surprising about this? Isn’t this like those medieval “scientists” who believed that you can create adult rats by stuffing old rags and wheat into a tin and letting it ferment, without ever having actually performed the ‘experiment’ to ‘confirm’ the results?
    Or people who believe a certain president is “good for the country”…..damn it!

  2. robro says

    I realize it’s a nit, but you’d have to admit this slip of the pen here is amusing:

    …the husband of a virgin bride then knows her wife has cheated…

  3. Bruce says

    I think part of this is people being raised with religion, being told as a child that it is GOOD to believe and assert things without evidence. This poor man is just obeying the parents he had as a child, and “witnessing” his “faith” in something he knows only through dream inspiration or something, EXACTLY LIKE how Saint Paul knew what to write in the first seven books of the New Testament to be composed. No mere facts from humans involved. Then later re-write experts made up the gospels, and America was done asking questions. There’s not really much more to be explained except a few details. As long as the virgin man never encounters a woman, his faith will never be shaken. Glory!

  4. Akira MacKenzie says

    Personally, I’d prefer a woman who knew what she was doing and wasn’t a mindless Stepford wife. Unlike this shit, I at least care whether or not my partner was enjoying themselves.

  5. raven says

    Mr. very weird guy certainly has zero knowledge of basic human anatomy.
    I seriously doubt if this creep has ever even known a woman much less had sex with a female.

    Which would be his one contribution to the well being of the USA and the world.

    Someone like this shouldn’t be allowed around women, children, pets, or garden plants.

  6. John Watts says

    What nut tree did this Martin guy fall out of? According to him, my 17-year-old virgin high school girlfriend, with whom I had sex at age 17, now has a vagina form fitted exclusively to my penis? Oy vey, this must mean she’s had to perform many hours of vaginal workouts to trick her husband into believing that she was made exclusively for him. It’s insanity all the way down.

  7. says

    Has this guy ever even SEEN a vagina? I guess it’d be too much to expect him to look at a diagram of one. He sounds like he’s going from some Lovecraftian-horror-sex-monster hentai.

    And on what forum was this utter nonsense posted? I’m not asking for a URL, just wondering where he could post such rubbish without being laughed out of town or banned by the site owner to avoid embarrassment.

  8. Ridana says

    Does this mean that once a woman has borne a child she is henceforth useless to her husband as her “mold” is broken and her vagina now permanently shaped like a baby’s head?

  9. Snarki, child of Loki says

    Was this “Martin” guy answering the question
    “Tell us you’re a virgin without telling us you’re a virgin”?
    Sounds like it.

  10. mordred says

    Seems I’m not the only one here who immediately concluded that this guy never got close to a vagina in his life.

    Also, I was quite okay with my first girlfriend allready had some experience – so at least one of us knew what they were doing!

  11. freeline says

    There’s a wonderful story about St. Augustine in which a group of scholars was having a debate over how many teeth does a horse have. They quoted this theologian and that theologian and invoked this logical argument and that rationale. Someone finally spoke up and said, “There’s a horse standing outside; why don’t we just go county his teeth?” He was promptly expelled from the group for the sin of relying on empirical data rather than theological argument.

    Funny that they’re just fine with empirical data if they want to know how long to bake a cake or whether that airplane really will get them where they want to go without crashing.

  12. robro says

    I sure hope this isn’t Gen. Joseph M. Martin. It would be disconcerting to know someone in his position is this dumb.

  13. Rich Woods says

    they also don’t evert themselves to grasp things

    For what it’s worth, in my younger days I saw enough tricks performed in strip clubs to make me wonder about this. Eversion, no, but suction…

  14. steve oberski says

    Well if he had done his “research” he might have stumbled onto this.

    Vagina dentata

    Vagina dentata is a folk tale tradition in which a vagina is said to contain teeth, with the associated implication that sexual intercourse might result in injury, emasculation, or castration. The topic of vagina dentata may also cover a rare medical condition affecting the vagina, in which case it is more accurately termed a vaginal dermoid cyst

    This theme also features in either “The Pollinators of Eden” or “The Rakehells of Heaven”, SF novels by John Boyd, published back in the 1960s which I when I read them (and can no longer recall which one featured Vagina dentata).

  15. numerobis says

    My first sexual partner apologized for not being a virgin.

    I didn’t understand why the fuck she thought I would care.

  16. John Harshman says

    @freeline #14:

    The Augustine story reminded me of the meme “Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?” (You can get t-shirts for that.)

    When I googled the origin, Google’s AI completely misunderstood the idea: “In essence, the phrase ‘Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?’ serves as a reminder that while practical success is important, it’s equally crucial to understand the underlying principles and ensure that they are sound and applicable beyond a specific instance.” Whoosh!

  17. cartomancer says

    If you’re going to just make stuff up about sexual anatomy then why stick to boring stuff like this?

    You could claim that the penis develops wings when you’re asleep, and flies off to water all the garden plants overnight, returning in the morning covered in dew. If you disturb it then it spontaneously combusts and a new penis grows rapidly, causing you to miss your alarm clock until it’s finished.

  18. answersingenitals says

    Certainly, this works both ways. The penis will mold to whatever it is inserted into. I’m sure Mr. Martin,s penis bears the bas-relief of four fingers and a thumb.

  19. silvrhalide says

    What are the odds that this guy has ever been within actionable distance of a vagina?
    I would bet good money that women see this guy heading their way and sprint away at a speed that wouldn’t shame Usain Bolt.

    when a woman has such control of her vagina muscles, can fool any man

    Some are clearly easier to fool than others.

    @21 nicely done!

    @17 Try Julian May’s Pleistocene Exile series. Her Firvulag had some interesting anatomical structures.

  20. lotharloo says

    What if the wife cheats with a guy who has a smaller penis than the husband? How would that break the mold?

  21. zetopan says

    Joseph is speaking as an absolutely true “INCEL”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

    Women reject him, so he has to invent an excuse why he must have actually rejected them. Many Reich Wingers are “impossibly stupid”*, and his confidence would always be an expected attribute:
    “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. — Bertrand Russell

    *After meeting Mango Mussolini in person, a British reporter remarked: he is “IMPOSSIBLY STUPID!”.

  22. raven says

    What if the wife cheats with a guy who has a smaller penis than the husband? How would that break the mold?

    I hope you are asking for a friend.

  23. zetopan says

    @10: “Has this guy ever even SEEN a vagina?”

    I would bet money if you asked him to point to a vulva, he would have no idea where it was. And he is likely just as stupid as the women on Faux Noise who think the vulva is a vagina (they have even said vagina when the vulva was the correct term). Keep them ignorant and pregnant, is part of Project2025. Also, women should not be allowed to vote unless they vote the same as their husband, so single women can’t vote at all, and married one’s can’t select whom to vote for/against. The “bible says” is all they need to know, no matter how insane, counterfactual, or self-contradictory. After all, Jesus was clearly a flat Earther, and he even endorsed the Noah’s big box fable. No one needs to know about reality, because that is WAY TOO SCARY!

  24. Militant Agnostic says

    John Harshman @19

    The Augustine story reminded me of the meme “Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?” (You can get t-shirts for that.)

    I once heard a Quebecois describe Canda as a “country that can not work in theory but it works in practice.”

  25. Militant Agnostic says

    John Harshman @19

    The Augustine story reminded me of the meme “Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?” (You can get t-shirts for that.)

    I once heard a Quebecois describe Canda as a “country that can not work in theory but it works in practice.”

  26. says

    There’s a selection process at work here. It persists because it works. In a low information system, where nobody knows shit, the most confident speaker is usually held to be correct. The bias is only weakened when you have a general understanding that some people have reliable knowledge on the subject under discussion.

    This is why a group of people completely ignorant of a given subject will usually speak more confidently about it than a similar group with detailed knowledge.

  27. unclefrogy says

    well the only way to take that guy seriously would be to think that the only truth in his ideas about sex is if based on keeping everyone ignorant and especially women. The “virgin” would be to ignorant and inexperienced that what ever her husband did or said about sex would be all she would know and would have to take it as all men were the same. She would only know and expect all men and their penises would be the same
    it does not make him look or sound better how ever, not just ignorant no but manipulative and probably very controlling as well as well

  28. rorschach says

    I miss the good old times when we thought the religious folks were the sexual weirdos. Turns out half of online US young males are underfucked and with no hope in the world of ever getting any.

  29. silvrhalide says

    @36 The religious nut jobs are still the sexual weirdos–that hasn’t changed. There’s just more sexual weirdos of the nonreligious variety adding to the overall number. As for “half of online US young males are underfucked and with no hope in the world of ever getting any”, well, that’s a choice they’re making, isn’t it.

    https://whatever.scalzi.com/2018/05/07/reader-request-week-2018-1-incels-and-other-misogynists/

    Remember they are actually “volcels” — voluntarily celibate, because they’ve chosen to be crap human beings no sensible woman (or anyone else) would want to spend time with — and then leave them to their own chosen lifestyle, because apparently they would rather do that than put in the work to be attractive, engaging people.

    And if they don’t want to do that, well. I guess then they can just go fuck themselves.

  30. mykroft says

    I’ve seen several people assert this guy has never seen a vagina, but he could still hold those beliefs if his only experiences with sex were with women with experience, and if so possibly with prostitutes. Then his assertions about the virgin vagina would an an idealization of what he thinks should happen, but has never experienced. Obviously he’s never had a close enough relationship with a women where he’s shared this delusion and gotten feedback.
    Personally, I just feel sorry for the benighted guy, and worry that his level of ignorance is all too common. Especially in America, where ignorance is strength, war is peace and freedom is slavery. (I wonder how long it will be before we see the equivalent of those statements on Truth Social).

  31. rorschach says

    I should really show this blog post to Siri Dahl, the most intelligent, entertaining and wise adult content creator out there. She’d have great fun with virgin vaginas molding to their first dick. Her YT channel is highly recommended.

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