I hope your house doesn’t look like this, Floridians


Hurricane Helene has passed by now, leaving wreckage in its wake.

If you suffered any losses, you know how you can fix it? Close your eyes! Project 2025 wants to close the National Hurricane Center and NOAA because they keep telling people about these kinds of natural disasters.

“The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be dismantled and many of its functions eliminated,” reads the introduction to Project 2025’s chapter on proposals for the Department of Commerce (of which NOAA is an agency). It goes on to simply say “Break up NOAA” as the first sentence in the section covering that agency.

Project 2025 calls NOAA and the National Weather Service “one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry,” and “harmful to future U.S. prosperity.”

See, the damage due to Helene was simply alarmism. If you don’t know about it, it didn’t happen.

Their idea of prosperity, though, is to privatize and commercialize weather forecasting. Make people pay for their warnings and safety.

Oliver also unearthed a 2018 interview with AccuWeather’s Founder and Executive Chairman Joel Myers, describing what he felt was a success story for privatized-weather forecasting, but which actually stands as a cautionary tale:

“Union Pacific: We told them that a tornado was heading to a spot. Two trains stopped two miles apart, they watched the tornado go between. Then unfortunately it went into a town that didn’t have our service and a couple dozen people were killed. But the railroad did not lose anything,” Myers said.

Success: a couple dozen people died, but the railroad company didn’t lose any money.

AccuWeather’s Founder and Executive Chairman Joel Myers is no relation, and if he is, I disown him.

Comments

  1. Jim Brady says

    Science and capitalism don’t really work. It is not just the situation that you have described (asking people to pay for information – meaning that information can’t either be spread nor checked), the problem is covering up errors that will end up costing the company money. For science to work, it needs to be non-profit and transparent.

  2. acroyear says

    I get the 2025 point, but the story is not a Cat 4 hit Florida.

    The story is a tropical storm hit Asheville, NC with flooding damage as far north as Ohio.

    The “cat” number is no longer the real predictor of damage and risk.

  3. larpar says

    “Then unfortunately it went into a town that didn’t have our service and a couple dozen people were killed.”
    If the town had their service, would the tornado stop or would the town move out of the way?

  4. Reginald Selkirk says

    Two trains stopped two miles apart, they watched the tornado go between.

    I call BS. You can’t predict where a tornado will go with that degree of precision.

  5. raven says

    I’m sure Project 2025 is just getting started here, abolishing the National Weather Service and NOAA. That will undoubtedly totally fix the Climate Change Problem and the Hurricane and Tornado problems.

    Next up.
    1. Abolish the U.S. Geological Survey, the federal department in charge of earthquake preparedness. That will fix the earthquakes and tidal waves problems.
    2. Abolish NIH, NIAID, and the CDC. No more infectious diseases. Especially pandemics. Without those organizations, the Covid-19 virus pandemic would never have happened.
    3. Abolish the Forest Service and the BLM. No more forest fires. Open range for all.
    4. Abolish the FDA. Let the free market decide which drugs are worth taking and which can be useless or fatal.
    5. Abolish the EPA. No more environmental problems or pollution of soil, air, and water.
    6. Abolish the Department of Education. No more education, no more educated citizens to figure out they are living in a New Dark Age run by cuckoo, hate filled xians.

    This isn’t even all sarcasm.
    Project 2025 actually does want to abolish the EPA and the Department of Education. Their other big target is of course, the CDC. The CDC openly discriminates against their friends the pathogens such as HIV, Covid-19 virus, bird flu, Mpox, Hepatitis A,B, C. etc..
    If you pretend infectious disease organisms don’t exist, no one ever gets sick and dies from them.

  6. robro says

    From Heather Cox Richardson this morning:

    NOAA hurricane scientist Jeff Masters noted that Helene’s landfall “gives the U.S. a record eight Cat 4 or Cat 5 Atlantic hurricane landfalls in the past eight years (2017–2024), seven of them being continental U.S. landfalls. That’s as many Cat 4 and 5 landfalls as occurred in the prior 57 years.”

    Also noted:

    Tennessee governor Bill Lee, a Republican, did not ask for such a declaration until this evening, instead proclaiming September 27 a “voluntary Day of Prayer and Fasting.” Observers pointed out that with people stuck on a hospital roof in the midst of catastrophic flooding in his state, maybe an emergency declaration would be more on point.

    So much for prayer and fasting.

    Per some news, Helene hit Perry, Florida first. My dad’s brother lived in Perry, working at the giant paper mill that eliminated the neighboring town of Foley. His son still lives there. I feel some small connection to the place as a childhood memory. This is the third big storm to plow through the town in a year.

  7. raven says

    “Then unfortunately it went into a town that didn’t have our service and a couple dozen people were killed.”

    I’m going to echo Reginald at #5 here.

    This sounds like a lie.
    Anywhere in tornado country has the National Weather Service with their Real Time Tornado warnings and also Tornado warning sirens.

    What is the name of this imaginary town and why was the death toll so high? Even without warning sirens, people can see tornadoes coming. Even I saw one once, not moving anywhere though.
    Somewhere a town gets hit all the time by tornadoes. While property damage can be high, fatalities are usually low. People know how to take shelter.

    I get warnings all the time from the National Weather Service. Wildfire dangers and heavy rain storms with localized flooding. Rarely funnel clouds. Sometimes fog alerts. Air quality alerts.

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